Would You Like Your Electricity Bill to Skyrocket?

[OnePercenter]

The problem with our monopoly utility providers is we allow them to be for-profit. In the 80's, electricity in Vegas was provided by a non-profit community owned company. Republicans railroaded a for-profit to buyout the non-profit. Today, our rates are more than double Pahrump, the closest non-profit power company.

 

[elektra]

The problem with our monopoly utility providers is we allow them to be for-profit. In the 80's, electricity in Vegas was provided by a non-profit community owned company. Republicans railroaded a for-profit to buyout the non-profit. Today, our rates are more than double Pahrump, the closest non-profit power company.

Our utilities are controlled, price controlled by the local governments, by the state governments. Nevada is a state controlled by Democrats.

Doesn't Vegas get its power from a Coal powered plant, and has not Obama and Democrat Harry Reid drove up the cost of Coal, even bankrupting Coal mines? There is also no Nuclear Power in Nevada? And Nevada has been busy building Wind and Solar Power plants.

It seems like Las Vegas gets what it deserves, high prices to pay for Solar and Wind power while shutting down Coal and refusing Nuclear power.

 

[Care4all]

In Maine we are a clean energy State....nearly all of our electricity comes from Hydro...water....I suppose if we didn't get snow or had a drought our electricity would go up?

 

[OnePercenter]

The problem with our monopoly utility providers is we allow them to be for-profit. In the 80's, electricity in Vegas was provided by a non-profit community owned company. Republicans railroaded a for-profit to buyout the non-profit. Today, our rates are more than double Pahrump, the closest non-profit power company.

Our utilities are controlled, price controlled by the local governments, by the state governments. Nevada is a state controlled by Democrats.

Doesn't Vegas get its power from a Coal powered plant, and has not Obama and Democrat Harry Reid drove up the cost of Coal, even bankrupting Coal mines? There is also no Nuclear Power in Nevada? And Nevada has been busy building Wind and Solar Power plants.

It seems like Las Vegas gets what it deserves, high prices to pay for Solar and Wind power while shutting down Coal and refusing Nuclear power.

Our utilities are controlled, price controlled by the local governments, by the state governments. Nevada is a state controlled by Democrats.

Except Republicans appointees have been making things hard for the working class since 1999. We even have a 'class act' Republican who stated that solar power is 'only for the rich!'

Doesn't Vegas get its power from a Coal powered plant, and has not Obama and Democrat Harry Reid drove up the cost of Coal, even bankrupting Coal mines? There is also no Nuclear Power in Nevada? And Nevada has been busy building Wind and Solar Power plants.

Coal lost out to the lower priced natural gas.

It seems like Las Vegas gets what it deserves, high prices to pay for Solar and Wind power while shutting down Coal and refusing Nuclear power.

Stupid

 

[Old Rocks]

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Electricity
Wholesale electricity prices this past winter (October through March) were significantly lower than in the winter of 2014–15. Day-ahead peak power prices averaged $35 per megawatthour (MWh) during winter 2015–16 in the wholesale market for the independent system operator (ISO) of New England, which was 52% below the average peak price during the 2014–15 winter. In the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) ISO, peak wholesale prices averaged $21/MWh this past winter, a 36% decline from the previous winter. Mild winter temperatures along with low natural gas prices contributed to the lower wholesale electricity prices.

Electricity Consumption
U.S. temperatures during summer 2016, as measured by cooling degree days, are forecast to be close to last summer's level, but 3% higher than the 10-year average. However, regional variations are expected. Forecast cooling degree days in the Pacific states in summer 2016 are 11% lower than in 2015, while cooling degree days in the East North Central states are expected to be 12% higher than in 2015. These regional differences in the level of cooling contribute to flat growth in summer residential electricity sales and 1.5% summer-over-summer growth in commercial electricity sales.

Looks like all you 'oh woe is me' 'Conservatives' are once again making up silly stories.

 

[Old Rocks]

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Now if you look at the graphs on the bottom of this article, you will find that the highest increases by percentage were when we were using the most coal. And when the use of natural gas and renewables increased, the rate of price increases actually decreased. As usual, reality is 180 degrees from what the 'Conservatives' claim.

 

[elektra]

Coal lost out to the lower priced natural gas.

Vegas still has operating Coal Plants. Coal has only lost out to politics and greed of democrats.

 

[Muhammed]

Update:

Well it looks like we dodged a bullet. Obama is no longer president.

It seems like Obama's blatant threat against the American people to make electricity rates "skyrocket" is over. All Americans who pay an electric bill should celebrate.

Many jackass party supporters at USMB have a penchant to say that the Republicans are the "party of no". But they are so fucking foolish that they cannot comprehend or fail to admit that many bills that come before congress are totally against their best interests and against the interests of most Americans. They cannot explain why they would want their electricity bills to skyrocket.

They cannot comprehend the fact that the USA dodged a bullet when the Republicans in congress put their foot down and said NO to the Waxman-Markey bill.

 

[Muhammed]

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Electricity
Wholesale electricity prices this past winter (October through March) were significantly lower than in the winter of 2014–15. Day-ahead peak power prices averaged $35 per megawatthour (MWh) during winter 2015–16 in the wholesale market for the independent system operator (ISO) of New England, which was 52% below the average peak price during the 2014–15 winter. In the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) ISO, peak wholesale prices averaged $21/MWh this past winter, a 36% decline from the previous winter. Mild winter temperatures along with low natural gas prices contributed to the lower wholesale electricity prices.

Electricity Consumption
U.S. temperatures during summer 2016, as measured by cooling degree days, are forecast to be close to last summer's level, but 3% higher than the 10-year average. However, regional variations are expected. Forecast cooling degree days in the Pacific states in summer 2016 are 11% lower than in 2015, while cooling degree days in the East North Central states are expected to be 12% higher than in 2015. These regional differences in the level of cooling contribute to flat growth in summer residential electricity sales and 1.5% summer-over-summer growth in commercial electricity sales.

Looks like all you 'oh woe is me' 'Conservatives' are once again making up silly stories.

There is no "story" being made up by "conservatives". The fact of the matter is that in a recorded interview Obama said that under his plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. And the Republicans obviously saved us from such an economically disastrous plan.

Had the Waxman-Markey bill passed through congress we would have had the first ever national building code in the USA. And that code would have required all parking spots to have an expensive piece of equipment to charge the batteries of electric cars. For instance, if you built a 2 car garage you would have to install 2 of them in the garage and if you built a building for a small business with a small parking lot that would accommodate a dozen cars you would have to install a dozen of them.

I've noticed that even though there is a shitload of Obama voters who regularly post in this internet forum, not a single person answered yes to the question in the poll.

What's up with that?

BTW it's kinda funny how the Dem voters at USMB got so quiet in response to this thread that you might think that I just claimed that Hillary was on the board of directors of Walmart for a half dozen years or something.

 

[RGR]

The problem with our monopoly utility providers is we allow them to be for-profit. In the 80's, electricity in Vegas was provided by a non-profit community owned company. Republicans railroaded a for-profit to buyout the non-profit. Today, our rates are more than double Pahrump, the closest non-profit power company.

Well..sure...but Pahrump is a pit. You might need 1/2 the electricity rate to get people to live there.

 

[Old Rocks]

2 remarkable facts that illustrate solar power’s declining cost

That annual report (which I covered in this post) covers the development of renewable energy in emerging nations. It shows, among other things, that those countries, led by China, are now investing more in renewable energy and installing more renewable energy capacity than developed nations.


It also shows that, thanks to recent cost declines, the capital costs of new solar in emerging economies has nudged down barely below the costs of new wind:

(Bloomberg)
As Randall says, “solar was bound to fall below wind eventually, given its steeper price declines, [but] few predicted it would happen this soon.”

Keep in mind, this is only capex — capital costs. The total cost of energy wind produces for emerging nations is still cheaper, because wind turbines produce more output per megawatt of capacity than solar panels. (They have a higher “capacity factor,” in the lingo.) But it is an impressive milestone nonetheless.

It is one reason that solar PV capacity is set to outpace wind for the first time this year. In a year-end note, BNEF chair Michael Liebreich says, “the latest projections from our solar and wind analysis teams are that there will be almost 70 gigawatts of photovoltaics added globally in 2016, up from 56 gigawatts in 2015, and that wind installations will total 59 gigawatts, down from 62 gigawatts last year.”

Together, wind and utility-scale solar are now the cheapest available energy sources in the places that are building the most of them. Liebreich says bluntly, “renewable energy will beat any other technology in most of the world without subsidies.”

The cost of the renewables is far less to install, and you don't need railroad spurs or pipelines to the site. And the fuel is free. Combine that with the new grid scale batteries, and Solar and Wind are 24/7. From here on, renewables are less costly than fossil fuels.