Would You Cheat on a Spouse?

[Paulie]

What if the spouse just refused to have sex?

No, never. If my marriage is that bad, I'll get a divorce and THEN I'll go looking for someone else, but as long as I'm married, I'm faithful.

I have no respect for anyone that cheats on their spouse. If you are in a bad marriage, get out, then you can do what you want, but until then, you owe it to you spouse and your own honor to remain faithful.

So it's not ok to cheat, but it's ok to divorce when you gave a vow of staying together "til death"?

Don't have sex behind my back, attone for the mistake, and get back on track with the marriage you vowed to stay in forever...but go ahead and break the promise if you feel like you're bored with me.

Ok, gotcha.

 

[dilloduck]

What if the spouse just refused to have sex?

No, never. If my marriage is that bad, I'll get a divorce and THEN I'll go looking for someone else, but as long as I'm married, I'm faithful.

I have no respect for anyone that cheats on their spouse. If you are in a bad marriage, get out, then you can do what you want, but until then, you owe it to you spouse and your own honor to remain faithful.

So it's not ok to cheat, but it's ok to divorce when you gave a vow of staying together "til death"?

Don't have sex behind my back, attone for it, and get back on track with the marriage you vowed to stay in forever...but go ahead and break the promise if you feel like you're bored with me.

Ok, gotcha.

ya-- weird huh? Sorta like "if your gonna cheat follow the proper procedures" .

 

[Paulie]

No, never. If my marriage is that bad, I'll get a divorce and THEN I'll go looking for someone else, but as long as I'm married, I'm faithful.

I have no respect for anyone that cheats on their spouse. If you are in a bad marriage, get out, then you can do what you want, but until then, you owe it to you spouse and your own honor to remain faithful.

So it's not ok to cheat, but it's ok to divorce when you gave a vow of staying together "til death"?

Don't have sex behind my back, attone for it, and get back on track with the marriage you vowed to stay in forever...but go ahead and break the promise if you feel like you're bored with me.

Ok, gotcha.

ya-- weird huh? Sorta like "if your gonna cheat follow the proper procedures" .

I wouldn't have expected to see that from Sheila. She seems like the type that would honor that kind of committment.

Afterall, it's why we men have such problems with it. Once you take those vows, you're IN

 

[dilloduck]

So it's not ok to cheat, but it's ok to divorce when you gave a vow of staying together "til death"?

Don't have sex behind my back, attone for it, and get back on track with the marriage you vowed to stay in forever...but go ahead and break the promise if you feel like you're bored with me.

Ok, gotcha.

ya-- weird huh? Sorta like "if your gonna cheat follow the proper procedures" .

I wouldn't have expected to see that from Sheila. She seems like the type that would honor that kind of committment.

Afterall, it's why we men have such problems with it. Once you take those vows, you're IN

and you're only in one place and with her permission.

 

[007]

What if the spouse just refused to have sex?

No, never. If my marriage is that bad, I'll get a divorce and THEN I'll go looking for someone else, but as long as I'm married, I'm faithful.

I have no respect for anyone that cheats on their spouse. If you are in a bad marriage, get out, then you can do what you want, but until then, you owe it to you spouse and your own honor to remain faithful.

So it's not ok to cheat, but it's ok to divorce when you gave a vow of staying together "til death"?

Don't have sex behind my back, attone for the mistake, and get back on track with the marriage you vowed to stay in forever...but go ahead and break the promise if you feel like you're bored with me.

Ok, gotcha.

So you don't believe in divorce... OK, gotcha.

I think what Shiela said was admirable. She believes one should be faithful. What is wrong with that? She believes in divorce, which is perfectly legal. What is wrong with that? No one is getting hurt, and no one is breaking the law. What is wrong with that?

 

[Paulie]

No, never. If my marriage is that bad, I'll get a divorce and THEN I'll go looking for someone else, but as long as I'm married, I'm faithful.

I have no respect for anyone that cheats on their spouse. If you are in a bad marriage, get out, then you can do what you want, but until then, you owe it to you spouse and your own honor to remain faithful.

So it's not ok to cheat, but it's ok to divorce when you gave a vow of staying together "til death"?

Don't have sex behind my back, attone for the mistake, and get back on track with the marriage you vowed to stay in forever...but go ahead and break the promise if you feel like you're bored with me.

Ok, gotcha.

So you don't believe in divorce... OK, gotcha.

I think what Shiela said was admirable. She believes one should be faithful. What is wrong with that? She believes in divorce, which is perfectly legal. What is wrong with that? No one is getting hurt, and no one is breaking the law. What is wrong with that?

I'm not debating legality, just morality.

A vow to stay together until death is a pretty serious vow. You ought not make that kind of committment unless you're willing to honor it. A mistake along the way of cheating isn't the worst thing in the world if you're able to reconcile and maintain the vow. That's the "for better or for worse" part.

I'm not religious, but it seems like a slap in the face to "god" to have one of his representatives take time out of their otherwise busy day to come and administer lifelong vows to a couple that ultimately calls it quits because they're either bored, or all the sudden not in love anymore, or what have you.

Don't take it personally. It's just an opinion, that's all.

 

[Paulie]

I just don't see marriage as a novelty. You take the vow, you KEEP the vow and weather the bad times, or you don't do it at all.

It's that simple.

 

[dilloduck]

I just don't see marriage as a novelty. You take the vow, you KEEP the vow and weather the bad times, or you don't do it at all.

It's that simple.

So the solution of getting divorced before you have sex with someone else rings a bit hollow to you, does it ?

 

[Againsheila]

When my grandmother was 79 and my grandpa was 90 years old, (he was 11 years older than her and they were married 65 years before he passed on),anyway my grandmother was telling my mom that grandpa was trying to have sex with her every morning and that she was fending him off by telling him it was not his "magic" that was making "it" that way, that he was just waking up 'piss hard' and she was refusing to have sex with him.....i kid you NOT!!!! hahahahahahaha! ( I can't believe my grandma even talked about sex, or even had it....ever... and her children had to have been just miracles so when my mom was giggling and telling me about grandma's complaints...I was just thrown!!!!)

So the question is, should my grandpa have cheated on my grandma cuz she was refusing, when he was 90 and she approaching 80, and would that have been ok?

Okay, I gotta tell a story here....When I was in college, I had a friend named Mary Ellen and she asked her 84 year old Grandma, "Grandma, how old do you have to be before you're not interested in sex anymore?" and her grandma patted her hand and said "Mary Ellen, when I get there, I'll let you know.

 

[Againsheila]

So it's not ok to cheat, but it's ok to divorce when you gave a vow of staying together "til death"?

Don't have sex behind my back, attone for the mistake, and get back on track with the marriage you vowed to stay in forever...but go ahead and break the promise if you feel like you're bored with me.

Ok, gotcha.

So you don't believe in divorce... OK, gotcha.

I think what Shiela said was admirable. She believes one should be faithful. What is wrong with that? She believes in divorce, which is perfectly legal. What is wrong with that? No one is getting hurt, and no one is breaking the law. What is wrong with that?

I'm not debating legality, just morality.

A vow to stay together until death is a pretty serious vow. You ought not make that kind of committment unless you're willing to honor it. A mistake along the way of cheating isn't the worst thing in the world if you're able to reconcile and maintain the vow. That's the "for better or for worse" part.

I'm not religious, but it seems like a slap in the face to "god" to have one of his representatives take time out of their otherwise busy day to come and administer lifelong vows to a couple that ultimately calls it quits because they're either bored, or all the sudden not in love anymore, or what have you.

Don't take it personally. It's just an opinion, that's all.

Sometimes, for whatever reason, a marriage just doesn't work out. That's why we have divorce laws. I'm not exactly in favor of divorce but since we do have it available, then it's preferable to remaining in a bad marriage. I do not, however, think anyone should divorce on a whim. Keeping a family together is a very big responsibility and it's extremely important.

It takes work to keep a marriage together and if you aren't willing to work for that, don't get married.

As long as you are married, it's important to remain faithful to your vows. Furthermore, for all those single gals and guys out there, having an affair with a married person, you are committing a moral sin. I don't care how you try to justify it, you are breaking up a a marriage, and/or causing trouble for a family that doesn't deserve it.

I knew a woman that dated a married man. She KNEW he was married and expected him to leave his wife for her. I just looked at her and said "If he'll leave his wife for you, what makes you think he won't leave you when someone better comes along?" She finally dumped him.

 

[AllieBaba]

Define "bad marriage".

I have a problem with people who define a "bad marriage" as "bad" because they themselves are tired of working on it and want to play the field.

Or who define a marriage as "bad" because they have realized that it IS hard work, you don't wake up every morning with good breath and stars in your eyes, and you may go through very, very long stretches where you don't like each other very much...but because you have children and are committed to something that is greater than the dream of 100 percent joyfull bliss all the time, and because you have a plan and still are committed to the plan, you stay together.

Anyone who has weathered long marriages will tell you..there are stretches of time where they didn't understand each other, didn't like each other, didn't care much, lost touch...but they come back around..and 30 years down the line, they have been very, very happy they did so. I have yet for a veteran of a 25-30 (or more) year marriage say they regretted spending all that time together.

And at the same time, they all had serious doubts along the marriage road and wanted to leave the marriages....

 

[Anguille]

God, I hope I'm still having sex when I'm 90.

I guess I do too. But I'm not sure I'm going to want to be having it with 90 year old men.

 

[AllieBaba]

No kidding.

 

[Sky Dancer]

So it's not ok to cheat, but it's ok to divorce when you gave a vow of staying together "til death"?

Don't have sex behind my back, attone for the mistake, and get back on track with the marriage you vowed to stay in forever...but go ahead and break the promise if you feel like you're bored with me.

Ok, gotcha.

So you don't believe in divorce... OK, gotcha.

I think what Shiela said was admirable. She believes one should be faithful. What is wrong with that? She believes in divorce, which is perfectly legal. What is wrong with that? No one is getting hurt, and no one is breaking the law. What is wrong with that?

I'm not debating legality, just morality.

A vow to stay together until death is a pretty serious vow. You ought not make that kind of committment unless you're willing to honor it. A mistake along the way of cheating isn't the worst thing in the world if you're able to reconcile and maintain the vow. That's the "for better or for worse" part.

I'm not religious, but it seems like a slap in the face to "god" to have one of his representatives take time out of their otherwise busy day to come and administer lifelong vows to a couple that ultimately calls it quits because they're either bored, or all the sudden not in love anymore, or what have you.

Don't take it personally. It's just an opinion, that's all.

People marry for different reasons. I think divorce as a 'slap in the face to god' is a slap in the face to those who legally marry by a justice of the peace.

Not everyone marries with religious ritualism.

 

[Care4all]

So you don't believe in divorce... OK, gotcha.

I think what Shiela said was admirable. She believes one should be faithful. What is wrong with that? She believes in divorce, which is perfectly legal. What is wrong with that? No one is getting hurt, and no one is breaking the law. What is wrong with that?

I'm not debating legality, just morality.

A vow to stay together until death is a pretty serious vow. You ought not make that kind of committment unless you're willing to honor it. A mistake along the way of cheating isn't the worst thing in the world if you're able to reconcile and maintain the vow. That's the "for better or for worse" part.

I'm not religious, but it seems like a slap in the face to "god" to have one of his representatives take time out of their otherwise busy day to come and administer lifelong vows to a couple that ultimately calls it quits because they're either bored, or all the sudden not in love anymore, or what have you.

Don't take it personally. It's just an opinion, that's all.

People marry for different reasons. I think divorce as a 'slap in the face to god' is a slap in the face to those who legally marry by a justice of the peace.

Not everyone marries with religious ritualism.

Do you take a vow at the justice of the peace? is there anything that is required to recite?

 

[AllieBaba]

So you don't believe in divorce... OK, gotcha.

I think what Shiela said was admirable. She believes one should be faithful. What is wrong with that? She believes in divorce, which is perfectly legal. What is wrong with that? No one is getting hurt, and no one is breaking the law. What is wrong with that?

I'm not debating legality, just morality.

A vow to stay together until death is a pretty serious vow. You ought not make that kind of committment unless you're willing to honor it. A mistake along the way of cheating isn't the worst thing in the world if you're able to reconcile and maintain the vow. That's the "for better or for worse" part.

I'm not religious, but it seems like a slap in the face to "god" to have one of his representatives take time out of their otherwise busy day to come and administer lifelong vows to a couple that ultimately calls it quits because they're either bored, or all the sudden not in love anymore, or what have you.

Don't take it personally. It's just an opinion, that's all.

People marry for different reasons. I think divorce as a 'slap in the face to god' is a slap in the face to those who legally marry by a justice of the peace.

Not everyone marries with religious ritualism.

It's not about religion. It's about choosing a lifestyle, and an environment for kids to grow up in, and what's best for your family and society.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Nothing to recite. You sign the paperwork. That's it.

 

[Anguille]

I'm not debating legality, just morality.

A vow to stay together until death is a pretty serious vow. You ought not make that kind of committment unless you're willing to honor it. A mistake along the way of cheating isn't the worst thing in the world if you're able to reconcile and maintain the vow. That's the "for better or for worse" part.

I'm not religious, but it seems like a slap in the face to "god" to have one of his representatives take time out of their otherwise busy day to come and administer lifelong vows to a couple that ultimately calls it quits because they're either bored, or all the sudden not in love anymore, or what have you.

Don't take it personally. It's just an opinion, that's all.

People marry for different reasons. I think divorce as a 'slap in the face to god' is a slap in the face to those who legally marry by a justice of the peace.

Not everyone marries with religious ritualism.

Do you take a vow at the justice of the peace? is there anything that is required to recite?

Everyone I know who used a JP wrote their own vows.

 

[Care4all]

Nothing to recite. You sign the paperwork. That's it.

And what is the paperwork for? What is the contract agreement the both are signing?

if there is no agreement what is the marriage for....what do you sign on to?

 

[AllieBaba]

Taxes.
Birth.
Death.

It's a tracking device used to help the government keep track of data.