Would you be in favor of a repeal of smoking bans ....

[Skull Pilot]

The concept of freedom of choice is a simple one to grasp.

Yes and smokers need to make their choice, smoke where they won't hurt anyone else or see laws get passed to make sure they do the right thing.

You don't get it

If I wish to allow smoking in my pub, I should be able to.

No one is forcing you to drink or eat there so why is it any of your business?

You are absolutely free to go to a nonsmoking pub

 

[☭proletarian☭]

If you want my business, you'll give a non-smoking section with clean air.

Else I'll go elsewhere.

Before the bans, I never had a problem finding someplace smoke-free to eat.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Health code would forbid such an activity, even on private property people must abide the law.

The point I was trying to make is that it is nobody's business what happens on private property.

If I want to open a restaurant that only serves food that 99% of people hate and cater to the 1% who like it, that is my choice.

If you don't like the food then don't eat there.

If i want to allow people to smoke the most foul smelling cigars ever made in my pub then I should have that right as you have the right not to drink there.

The concept of freedom of choice is a simple one to grasp.

And if you want to serve maggot infested meat in you restaurant the health code violation will result in you being shut down.

Don't be an idiot.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If you want my business, you'll give a non-smoking section with clean air.

Else I'll go elsewhere.

Before the bans, I never had a problem finding someplace smoke-free to eat.

Exactly

If 20% of the population smokes, and if people were allowed to run their establishments as they saw fit , I have no doubt you would see a proportionate number of pubs that allowed smoking

And if you don't smoke why the hell should you care if people in a restaurant that you would not patronize smoked?

 

[Anguille]

... in bars and restaurants?

no, what is done is done, I have always agreed with a smoking ban in restaurants it is kind of ignorant for somebody to light up when people at the next table are eating a meal, in bars I can waver on this but its nice not to smell nasty after going home after a night out drinking in a smokeless bar.

Good point about not having to wash your hair and clothes anymore after being in a smoky bar.

 

[noose4]

The point I was trying to make is that it is nobody's business what happens on private property.

If I want to open a restaurant that only serves food that 99% of people hate and cater to the 1% who like it, that is my choice.

If you don't like the food then don't eat there.

If i want to allow people to smoke the most foul smelling cigars ever made in my pub then I should have that right as you have the right not to drink there.

The concept of freedom of choice is a simple one to grasp.

And if you want to serve maggot infested meat in you restaurant the health code violation will result in you being shut down.

Don't be an idiot.

So some health code laws are okay but others are not?

 

[Skull Pilot]

And if you want to serve maggot infested meat in you restaurant the health code violation will result in you being shut down.

Don't be an idiot.

So some health code laws are okay but others are not?

So you are being forced to patronize a pub that allows smoking?

You have the right to choose you know.

If I allow smoking and everyone who patronizes my pub knows it then they make the choice to enter or not.

 

[noose4]

Don't be an idiot.

So some health code laws are okay but others are not?

So you are being forced to patronize a pub that allows smoking?

You have the right to choose you know.

If I allow smoking and everyone who patronizes my pub knows it then they make the choice to enter or not.

Health code laws prohibit smoking in such establishments (as they should) one man's addiction should not infringe upon the life and choices of others.

 

[Anguille]

smoking is (still) a perfectly legal activity.

It's amusing the way some people keep repeating that. In most public places smoking is an illegal activity.
To claim it's "a perfectly legal activity" is like claiming it's perfectly legal to drive 65 miles an hour down a narrow residential street just because it's legal to drive that fast on the highway.

 

[noose4]

smoking is (still) a perfectly legal activity.

It's amusing the way some people keep repeating that. In most public places smoking is an illegal activity.
To claim it's "a perfectly legal activity" is like claiming it's perfectly legal to drive 65 miles an hour down a narrow residential street just because it's legal to drive that fast on the highway.

Drinking alcohol is legal yet I by law can not walk down the street drinking a bottle of beer.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Did Mr Lynch just compare choosing whether to be somewhere with smokey air to being served rancid food after entrusting your well-being to the cooks?

 

[dilloduck]

smoking is (still) a perfectly legal activity.

It's amusing the way some people keep repeating that. In most public places smoking is an illegal activity.
To claim it's "a perfectly legal activity" is like claiming it's perfectly legal to drive 65 miles an hour down a narrow residential street just because it's legal to drive that fast on the highway.

Drinking alcohol is legal yet I by law can not walk down the street drinking a bottle of beer.

another dumb ass law

 

[☭proletarian☭]

So some health code laws are okay but others are not?

So you are being forced to patronize a pub that allows smoking?

You have the right to choose you know.

If I allow smoking and everyone who patronizes my pub knows it then they make the choice to enter or not.

Health code laws prohibit smoking in such establishments (as they should) one man's addiction should not infringe upon the life and choices of others.

Do what I did: go to places that disallow smoking or ask for the non-smoking section.

 

[Anguille]

If the owner of an establishment wants to allow people to spit and snot everywhere he should be able to do so.

If you do not want to be spit on, you have the absolute right to patronize an establishment that does not allow spitting and snotting.

Your logic is so warped you'd probably defend an establishment that wanted to show child pornography films.

 

[California Girl]

The concept of freedom of choice is a simple one to grasp.

Yes and smokers need to make their choice, smoke where they won't hurt anyone else or see laws get passed to make sure they do the right thing.

And therein lays the problem. No one should legislate to 'make sure' that others 'do the right thing'.

 

[noose4]

So you are being forced to patronize a pub that allows smoking?

You have the right to choose you know.

If I allow smoking and everyone who patronizes my pub knows it then they make the choice to enter or not.

Health code laws prohibit smoking in such establishments (as they should) one man's addiction should not infringe upon the life and choices of others.

Do what I did: go to places that disallow smoking or ask for the non-smoking section.

Dont have to where I live they dont allow smoking in indoor public places.

 

[Skull Pilot]

So some health code laws are okay but others are not?

So you are being forced to patronize a pub that allows smoking?

You have the right to choose you know.

If I allow smoking and everyone who patronizes my pub knows it then they make the choice to enter or not.

Health code laws prohibit smoking in such establishments (as they should) one man's addiction should not infringe upon the life and choices of others.

The whole pint that is sailing over your head is that the laws regarding smoking are wrong.

God forbid anyone disagree with the government right?

 

[noose4]

So you are being forced to patronize a pub that allows smoking?

You have the right to choose you know.

If I allow smoking and everyone who patronizes my pub knows it then they make the choice to enter or not.

Health code laws prohibit smoking in such establishments (as they should) one man's addiction should not infringe upon the life and choices of others.

The whole pint that is sailing over your head is that the laws regarding smoking are wrong.

God forbid anyone disagree with the government right?

They are not wrong health codes are a good thing.

 

[Skull Pilot]

smoking is (still) a perfectly legal activity.

It's amusing the way some people keep repeating that. In most public places smoking is an illegal activity.
To claim it's "a perfectly legal activity" is like claiming it's perfectly legal to drive 65 miles an hour down a narrow residential street just because it's legal to drive that fast on the highway.

Drinking alcohol is legal yet I by law can not walk down the street drinking a bottle of beer.

Public property not private property.

My pub is not public property.

 

[Anguille]

I am sure some people still smoke around there kids

Sadly, yes.