Would there be any comments?

[midcan5]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

 

[dilloduck]

How boring.

 

[editec]

If we stuck to commenting on issues, and eschewed EVER commenting on our fellow posters we wouldn't have to wade through all these personality conflicts.

It's not in our natures, however, not to get personally involved in these kinds of discussions.

I try, but even I find myself insulting people who seem bent on wasting our time.

The only way this works is if people do NOT discuss the discussion: the "You said or meant this" V the "NO I didn't" kind of discussions) AND if we never commented on the posters themselves.

Aint' gonna happen, though.

 

[MaggieMae]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

In any truce during war, someone always manages to fire a shot anyway. Nice thoughts, though.

 

[uscitizen]

A good effort I hope it pans out.

But the dark side is very seductive.

 

[ConservativeDad]

A good effort I hope it pans out.

But the dark side is very seductive.

I don't know about the seductive part, but they do have cookies!!

 

[Tom Clancy]

Should we also add this? This goes especially for you midcan.

I will not be a partisan hack, I won't blame one side for all America's problems and I will admit my parties faults. (Tom Clancy 1:1)

 

[uscitizen]

How boring.

Yeah I always got in big trouble for falling asleep in church.

 

[THE LIGHT]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

But then you would have to admit to Gunny being God.

Of which as much as I like his opinions I won't.

 

[rikules]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

I made a"vow" a few weeks ago on this site stating that I was no longer going to engage in personal attacks or insults with other posters no matter how much they deserved it


for the most part I have honored that vow

it IS difficult...

all you have to do is post something relatively rational, as civilly as possible, and almost immediately someone insults you

I believe a lot of people really ENJOY insulting and bashing...

there may even be a points system distributed based upon how mean or clever your insults are...?


as for my vow
I may slip on occasion and respond less than civilly

but I intent to maintain my vow

I harbor little hope that many others will do likewise

 

[lizzie]

I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

That's pretty much what I do daily, up to the point of the bolded text. Reporting posts that violate my personal standards is something that I don't consider even legitimate. If someone can't control their impulses and anger enough to be civil, then it's their problem, not mine. If they have some need to be hateful, they are the ones whom their anger affects negatively.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

I think that these rules, like most attempts to mine Scripture to justify anything, fall far short of the example set by Jesus.

Mathew 23:27, John 2:14-15.

He didn't act like that, and neither will I.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

I made a"vow" a few weeks ago on this site stating that I was no longer going to engage in personal attacks or insults with other posters no matter how much they deserved it


for the most part I have honored that vow

it IS difficult...

all you have to do is post something relatively rational, as civilly as possible, and almost immediately someone insults you

I believe a lot of people really ENJOY insulting and bashing...

there may even be a points system distributed based upon how mean or clever your insults are...?


as for my vow
I may slip on occasion and respond less than civilly

but I intent to maintain my vow

I harbor little hope that many others will do likewise

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Making a vow you know is impossible to keep is foolish at best.

 

[rikules]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

I've been gone for almost a day

just got back home

and I see things are worse than ever.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

Reading 'Sojourners'???

As in Jim Wallis, religious adviser to President Obama?

Here's a little background for those unfamiliar with either Wallis or Sojourners:

"In parallel with his magazine's stridently antiwar position during the Seventies, Wallis championed the cause of communism. Forgiving its brutal standard-bearers in Vietnam and Cambodia the most abominable of atrocities, Wallis was unsparing in his execration of American military efforts. Demanding greater levels of "social justice" in the U.S., he was silent on the subject of the murderous rampages of Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Very much to the contrary, several Sojourners editorials attempted to exculpate the Khmer Rouge of the charges of genocide, instead shifting blame squarely onto the United States.

Following the 1979 refugee crisis in Vietnam, Wallis lashed out at the desperate masses fleeing North Vietnam's communist forces by boat. These refugees, as Wallis saw it, had been "inoculated" by capitalist influences during the war and were absconding "to support their consumer habit in other lands." Wallis then admonished critics against pointing to the boat people to "discredit" the righteousness of Vietnam's newly victorious Communist regime.

More than a mere religious leader, Wallis, a registered Democrat, is also an adroit political operative, publicly portraying himself as a politically neutral religious figure whose overriding allegiance is to God. Always with the disclaimer that neither major political party can claim to authoritatively represent the values of religious faith, Wallis passionately contends that Republican policies tend to be immoral and godless." http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1833

"Today, President Obama gets his spiritual nourishment from another source, a leader of American “progressive” Christianity, named Jim Wallis… Rev. Wallis has served on Obama’s White House Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, or “Faith Council”, since 2008. But the relationship is personal and goes back at least a dozen years…Wallis went on to join and then lead the militant Students for a Democratic Society at Michigan State University.

Meanwhile, many of Wallis’ old SDS comrades had founded a new Marxist organization with some older Communist Party veterans, patriotically named the New American Movement. In 1982, NAM, in turn, merged with the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee to form Democratic Socialists of America.

The new organization took penetration of organized religion very seriously, immediately forming a Religion and Socialism Commission.

Jim Wallis is a socialist and a fervent believer in the state redistribution of wealth. He is connected to some of the most radical people in America. Loudon: Obama’s “Faith Adviser” Jim Wallis Mixes With Socialists, Radicals and “Truthers” RBO


Wallis is a leader of the so-called religious left. He is a political activist who cloaks his radicalism in religion. He founded and is the editor of "Sojourners" magazine. His relationship with Obama began to loom as Obama's ties with Wright were "disappeared".He and Sojourners have an anti-Israel animus -- just as did Pastor Wright. The magazine and church bulletins published under the aegis of Pastor Wright carried manifestos from a Hamas leader ; Sojourners magazine has also carried pro-Hamas pieces.

But Pastor Wright and Jim Wallis share much more: a stark anti-Americanism and a radicalism sharply at odds with the vast majority of religious figures in America."
American Thinker Blog: Obama's other minister problem

You are the first person in a looooooooooong time who began a conversation with "I was just reading this Communist, anti-American journal today, and......"
Middy, you make this place interesting!

Could I pay you to keep it up?

 

[MaggieMae]

Should we also add this? This goes especially for you midcan.

I will not be a partisan hack, I won't blame one side for all America's problems and I will admit my parties faults. (Tom Clancy 1:1)

Ahem...we're ALL "partisan hacks" when discussing the political issues. Otherwise, there would be no need for the category and this site would be just another flowery one discussing, er, cookies (and such).

 

[MaggieMae]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

Reading 'Sojourners'???

As in Jim Wallis, religious adviser to President Obama?

Here's a little background for those unfamiliar with either Wallis or Sojourners:

"In parallel with his magazine's stridently antiwar position during the Seventies, Wallis championed the cause of communism. Forgiving its brutal standard-bearers in Vietnam and Cambodia the most abominable of atrocities, Wallis was unsparing in his execration of American military efforts. Demanding greater levels of "social justice" in the U.S., he was silent on the subject of the murderous rampages of Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Very much to the contrary, several Sojourners editorials attempted to exculpate the Khmer Rouge of the charges of genocide, instead shifting blame squarely onto the United States.

Following the 1979 refugee crisis in Vietnam, Wallis lashed out at the desperate masses fleeing North Vietnam's communist forces by boat. These refugees, as Wallis saw it, had been "inoculated" by capitalist influences during the war and were absconding "to support their consumer habit in other lands." Wallis then admonished critics against pointing to the boat people to "discredit" the righteousness of Vietnam's newly victorious Communist regime.

More than a mere religious leader, Wallis, a registered Democrat, is also an adroit political operative, publicly portraying himself as a politically neutral religious figure whose overriding allegiance is to God. Always with the disclaimer that neither major political party can claim to authoritatively represent the values of religious faith, Wallis passionately contends that Republican policies tend to be immoral and godless." http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1833

"Today, President Obama gets his spiritual nourishment from another source, a leader of American “progressive” Christianity, named Jim Wallis… Rev. Wallis has served on Obama’s White House Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, or “Faith Council”, since 2008. But the relationship is personal and goes back at least a dozen years…Wallis went on to join and then lead the militant Students for a Democratic Society at Michigan State University.

Meanwhile, many of Wallis’ old SDS comrades had founded a new Marxist organization with some older Communist Party veterans, patriotically named the New American Movement. In 1982, NAM, in turn, merged with the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee to form Democratic Socialists of America.

The new organization took penetration of organized religion very seriously, immediately forming a Religion and Socialism Commission.

Jim Wallis is a socialist and a fervent believer in the state redistribution of wealth. He is connected to some of the most radical people in America. Loudon: Obama’s “Faith Adviser” Jim Wallis Mixes With Socialists, Radicals and “Truthers” RBO


Wallis is a leader of the so-called religious left. He is a political activist who cloaks his radicalism in religion. He founded and is the editor of "Sojourners" magazine. His relationship with Obama began to loom as Obama's ties with Wright were "disappeared".He and Sojourners have an anti-Israel animus -- just as did Pastor Wright. The magazine and church bulletins published under the aegis of Pastor Wright carried manifestos from a Hamas leader ; Sojourners magazine has also carried pro-Hamas pieces.

But Pastor Wright and Jim Wallis share much more: a stark anti-Americanism and a radicalism sharply at odds with the vast majority of religious figures in America."
American Thinker Blog: Obama's other minister problem

You are the first person in a looooooooooong time who began a conversation with "I was just reading this Communist, anti-American journal today, and......"
Middy, you make this place interesting!

Could I pay you to keep it up?

I see you're always current on what the right wing noise machine gets published. I knew Obama had a "team" of "spiritual advisors" (not just one), but I had to wade through 4 pages of Googled blasts about Jim Wallis before I could find what I was looking for.

Meet Obama’s 5 Spiritual Advisors Road to Priesthood

Obama isn't highly religious in the first place, which is why he chose Rick Warren as the religious keynote speaker at his inauguration. Warren embraces faith, period.

But hey, ya'll should be delighted (or saddened?) that at least Obama doesn't have an Imam he uses for spiritual guidance.

 

[rikules]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

Reading 'Sojourners'???

As in Jim Wallis, religious adviser to President Obama?

Here's a little background for those unfamiliar with either Wallis or Sojourners:

"In parallel with his magazine's stridently antiwar position during the Seventies, Wallis championed the cause of communism. Forgiving its brutal standard-bearers in Vietnam and Cambodia the most abominable of atrocities, Wallis was unsparing in his execration of American military efforts. Demanding greater levels of "social justice" in the U.S., he was silent on the subject of the murderous rampages of Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Very much to the contrary, several Sojourners editorials attempted to exculpate the Khmer Rouge of the charges of genocide, instead shifting blame squarely onto the United States.

Following the 1979 refugee crisis in Vietnam, Wallis lashed out at the desperate masses fleeing North Vietnam's communist forces by boat. These refugees, as Wallis saw it, had been "inoculated" by capitalist influences during the war and were absconding "to support their consumer habit in other lands." Wallis then admonished critics against pointing to the boat people to "discredit" the righteousness of Vietnam's newly victorious Communist regime.

More than a mere religious leader, Wallis, a registered Democrat, is also an adroit political operative, publicly portraying himself as a politically neutral religious figure whose overriding allegiance is to God. Always with the disclaimer that neither major political party can claim to authoritatively represent the values of religious faith, Wallis passionately contends that Republican policies tend to be immoral and godless." http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1833

"Today, President Obama gets his spiritual nourishment from another source, a leader of American “progressive” Christianity, named Jim Wallis… Rev. Wallis has served on Obama’s White House Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, or “Faith Council”, since 2008. But the relationship is personal and goes back at least a dozen years…Wallis went on to join and then lead the militant Students for a Democratic Society at Michigan State University.

Meanwhile, many of Wallis’ old SDS comrades had founded a new Marxist organization with some older Communist Party veterans, patriotically named the New American Movement. In 1982, NAM, in turn, merged with the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee to form Democratic Socialists of America.

The new organization took penetration of organized religion very seriously, immediately forming a Religion and Socialism Commission.

Jim Wallis is a socialist and a fervent believer in the state redistribution of wealth. He is connected to some of the most radical people in America. Loudon: Obama’s “Faith Adviser” Jim Wallis Mixes With Socialists, Radicals and “Truthers” RBO


Wallis is a leader of the so-called religious left. He is a political activist who cloaks his radicalism in religion. He founded and is the editor of "Sojourners" magazine. His relationship with Obama began to loom as Obama's ties with Wright were "disappeared".He and Sojourners have an anti-Israel animus -- just as did Pastor Wright. The magazine and church bulletins published under the aegis of Pastor Wright carried manifestos from a Hamas leader ; Sojourners magazine has also carried pro-Hamas pieces.

But Pastor Wright and Jim Wallis share much more: a stark anti-Americanism and a radicalism sharply at odds with the vast majority of religious figures in America."
American Thinker Blog: Obama's other minister problem

You are the first person in a looooooooooong time who began a conversation with "I was just reading this Communist, anti-American journal today, and......"
Middy, you make this place interesting!

Could I pay you to keep it up?

seems to me that it shouldn't matter WHICH side says it....

EVERYONE being civil to each other is a good idea

 

[PoliticalChic]

I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

Reading 'Sojourners'???

As in Jim Wallis, religious adviser to President Obama?

Here's a little background for those unfamiliar with either Wallis or Sojourners:

"In parallel with his magazine's stridently antiwar position during the Seventies, Wallis championed the cause of communism. Forgiving its brutal standard-bearers in Vietnam and Cambodia the most abominable of atrocities, Wallis was unsparing in his execration of American military efforts. Demanding greater levels of "social justice" in the U.S., he was silent on the subject of the murderous rampages of Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Very much to the contrary, several Sojourners editorials attempted to exculpate the Khmer Rouge of the charges of genocide, instead shifting blame squarely onto the United States.

Following the 1979 refugee crisis in Vietnam, Wallis lashed out at the desperate masses fleeing North Vietnam's communist forces by boat. These refugees, as Wallis saw it, had been "inoculated" by capitalist influences during the war and were absconding "to support their consumer habit in other lands." Wallis then admonished critics against pointing to the boat people to "discredit" the righteousness of Vietnam's newly victorious Communist regime.

More than a mere religious leader, Wallis, a registered Democrat, is also an adroit political operative, publicly portraying himself as a politically neutral religious figure whose overriding allegiance is to God. Always with the disclaimer that neither major political party can claim to authoritatively represent the values of religious faith, Wallis passionately contends that Republican policies tend to be immoral and godless." http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1833

"Today, President Obama gets his spiritual nourishment from another source, a leader of American “progressive” Christianity, named Jim Wallis… Rev. Wallis has served on Obama’s White House Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, or “Faith Council”, since 2008. But the relationship is personal and goes back at least a dozen years…Wallis went on to join and then lead the militant Students for a Democratic Society at Michigan State University.

Meanwhile, many of Wallis’ old SDS comrades had founded a new Marxist organization with some older Communist Party veterans, patriotically named the New American Movement. In 1982, NAM, in turn, merged with the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee to form Democratic Socialists of America.

The new organization took penetration of organized religion very seriously, immediately forming a Religion and Socialism Commission.

Jim Wallis is a socialist and a fervent believer in the state redistribution of wealth. He is connected to some of the most radical people in America. Loudon: Obama’s “Faith Adviser” Jim Wallis Mixes With Socialists, Radicals and “Truthers” RBO


Wallis is a leader of the so-called religious left. He is a political activist who cloaks his radicalism in religion. He founded and is the editor of "Sojourners" magazine. His relationship with Obama began to loom as Obama's ties with Wright were "disappeared".He and Sojourners have an anti-Israel animus -- just as did Pastor Wright. The magazine and church bulletins published under the aegis of Pastor Wright carried manifestos from a Hamas leader ; Sojourners magazine has also carried pro-Hamas pieces.

But Pastor Wright and Jim Wallis share much more: a stark anti-Americanism and a radicalism sharply at odds with the vast majority of religious figures in America."
American Thinker Blog: Obama's other minister problem

You are the first person in a looooooooooong time who began a conversation with "I was just reading this Communist, anti-American journal today, and......"
Middy, you make this place interesting!

Could I pay you to keep it up?

I see you're always current on what the right wing noise machine gets published. I knew Obama had a "team" of "spiritual advisors" (not just one), but I had to wade through 4 pages of Googled blasts about Jim Wallis before I could find what I was looking for.

Meet Obama’s 5 Spiritual Advisors Road to Priesthood

Obama isn't highly religious in the first place, which is why he chose Rick Warren as the religious keynote speaker at his inauguration. Warren embraces faith, period.

But hey, ya'll should be delighted (or saddened?) that at least Obama doesn't have an Imam he uses for spiritual guidance.

1. Maggie, did you read the rest of the post?

Would you have selected Kommisar Wallis as your - or even one of your advisors?

2. How do you feel about our President selecting yet another America-hating, capitalism-hating, anti-Semitic, Marxist?

Copasetic? Down wit' dat?

3. And, since you state in your post that you found the culprit (I appreciate the efforts you made), nor have you identified any errors in the links that I posted, ...what's the beef?

4. And, since I always bow to your wishes, and you have criticized my selection of sources as " the right wing noise machine," how's Investor's Business Daily? OK with you?

"Their political ministry is called the "social gospel," but it's really just socialism dressed up in a cheap tunic. They refuse to separate personal faith from political activism, whether at home or abroad.

In the '80s, for example, Wallis and Wright rallied to the cause of the communist regime in Nicaragua, and protested the U.S. arming of the Contra rebels. Wallis, in fact, marshaled thousands of "Witnesses for Peace" and joined them in Nicaragua, making it known they were willing to take a bullet to stop the anti-communist insurgency.
"I don't know which is the worst evil," he said in a 1994 interview with the Los Angeles Times magazine, "the crackhouse or the gentrified house."

Wallis agrees with Obama that American racism and capitalism are to blame for inner-city poverty, and echoes his oft-repeated call for "economic justice." They share a spread-the-wealth vision, including subsidizing the working poor beyond expanded tax credits and minimum-wage hikes.

"The Bible says prosperity has to be shared," Wallis said in a January 2000 interview with IBD. "It's very simple."

Wallis likes to think of himself and his sojourners as "progressives." But "they're really just socialists," said David Kelley, director of the Objectivist Center in New York.
Wallis may couch his Bolshevist views today. But in 1979, he was quoted in the journal "Mission Tracks" saying he hoped that "more Christians will come to view the world through Marxist eyes."Wallis put another radical professor, James Cone, on his Sojourners editorial board. Cone is Wright's mentor and the father of black liberation theology, a Marxist version of Christianity that worships a white-hating black Jesus."Together," Cone said, "black religion and Marxist philosophy may show us a way to build a completely new society."

Such foes of capitalism and apologists for communism belong in communes, not national leadership. Better they sojourn their way completely out of American politics." Sojourning Socialists - IBD - Investors.com
(emphasis mine)

5."...Obama isn't highly religious in the first place..."

Exactly! Awesome insight! Choose any prize from the second shelf!

That is the point: President Obama, Jim Wallis, Rev. Wright, are not religious figures, they are highly political left wing ideologues who use the cloak of religion when it suits them!

The question that remains is whether our friend Middy, and you- if you are giving your imprimatur to Wallis, are dupes or true believers.

How about a hint...

 

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I was reading 'Sojourners' this morning and came across this 'code of comment.' Interesting, but I wonder given most of the comments I get for my wonderful, insightful, brilliant, and reasonable threads and posts, could this work on USMB. We should all try it for a day or so. midcan

'Comment Code of Conduct'

"I will express myself with civility, courtesy, and respect for every member of the Sojourners online community, especially toward those with whom I disagree—even if I feel disrespected by them. (Romans 12:17-21)

I will express my disagreements with other community members' ideas without insulting, mocking, or slandering them personally. (Matthew 5:22)

I will not exaggerate others' beliefs nor make unfounded prejudicial assumptions based on labels, categories, or stereotypes. I will always extend the benefit of the doubt. (Ephesians 4:29)

I will hold others accountable by clicking "report" on comments that violate these principles, based not on what ideas are expressed but on how they're expressed. (2 Thessalonians 3:13-15)

I understand that comments reported as abusive are reviewed by Sojourners staff and are subject to removal. Repeat offenders will be blocked from making further comments. (Proverbs 18:7)"

Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace

Reading 'Sojourners'???

As in Jim Wallis, religious adviser to President Obama?

Here's a little background for those unfamiliar with either Wallis or Sojourners:

"In parallel with his magazine's stridently antiwar position during the Seventies, Wallis championed the cause of communism. Forgiving its brutal standard-bearers in Vietnam and Cambodia the most abominable of atrocities, Wallis was unsparing in his execration of American military efforts. Demanding greater levels of "social justice" in the U.S., he was silent on the subject of the murderous rampages of Cambodia's Khmer Rouge. Very much to the contrary, several Sojourners editorials attempted to exculpate the Khmer Rouge of the charges of genocide, instead shifting blame squarely onto the United States.

Following the 1979 refugee crisis in Vietnam, Wallis lashed out at the desperate masses fleeing North Vietnam's communist forces by boat. These refugees, as Wallis saw it, had been "inoculated" by capitalist influences during the war and were absconding "to support their consumer habit in other lands." Wallis then admonished critics against pointing to the boat people to "discredit" the righteousness of Vietnam's newly victorious Communist regime.

More than a mere religious leader, Wallis, a registered Democrat, is also an adroit political operative, publicly portraying himself as a politically neutral religious figure whose overriding allegiance is to God. Always with the disclaimer that neither major political party can claim to authoritatively represent the values of religious faith, Wallis passionately contends that Republican policies tend to be immoral and godless." http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1833

"Today, President Obama gets his spiritual nourishment from another source, a leader of American “progressive” Christianity, named Jim Wallis… Rev. Wallis has served on Obama’s White House Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, or “Faith Council”, since 2008. But the relationship is personal and goes back at least a dozen years…Wallis went on to join and then lead the militant Students for a Democratic Society at Michigan State University.

Meanwhile, many of Wallis’ old SDS comrades had founded a new Marxist organization with some older Communist Party veterans, patriotically named the New American Movement. In 1982, NAM, in turn, merged with the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee to form Democratic Socialists of America.

The new organization took penetration of organized religion very seriously, immediately forming a Religion and Socialism Commission.

Jim Wallis is a socialist and a fervent believer in the state redistribution of wealth. He is connected to some of the most radical people in America. Loudon: Obama’s “Faith Adviser” Jim Wallis Mixes With Socialists, Radicals and “Truthers” RBO


Wallis is a leader of the so-called religious left. He is a political activist who cloaks his radicalism in religion. He founded and is the editor of "Sojourners" magazine. His relationship with Obama began to loom as Obama's ties with Wright were "disappeared".He and Sojourners have an anti-Israel animus -- just as did Pastor Wright. The magazine and church bulletins published under the aegis of Pastor Wright carried manifestos from a Hamas leader ; Sojourners magazine has also carried pro-Hamas pieces.

But Pastor Wright and Jim Wallis share much more: a stark anti-Americanism and a radicalism sharply at odds with the vast majority of religious figures in America."
American Thinker Blog: Obama's other minister problem

You are the first person in a looooooooooong time who began a conversation with "I was just reading this Communist, anti-American journal today, and......"
Middy, you make this place interesting!

Could I pay you to keep it up?

seems to me that it shouldn't matter WHICH side says it....

EVERYONE being civil to each other is a good idea

Rik-o, you never miss an opportunity to miss the point.

Hitler was a great painter: two coats in an afternoon!