Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[Ace Nova]

Yes, they should, They might want to consider the weather, solar storms, and if they are boarding a jalopy and many frantically ruminate if they made a mistake if they hit turbulence.


What does that tell you?


I'm OK with that. Jesus said to "be just in your judgments" and so I am. I'm not worried at all.

John 24:

"Do not base your judgment on appearances;
judge according to what is right.”

This was in response to the religious leaders accusing him of healing on the Sabbath. The "appearance" of someone "healing" or performing works on the Sabbath was condemned by the religious leaders and their society at the time. Jesus stated that if a person could be circumcised on the Sabbath - so that the Law would not be broken - then there is precedent within the Law to "do what is right" - overcoming superficial "appearances" of "breaking the Sabbath".

This quote does not mean, "Be just in your judgements" - as it would pertain to physical judgements on others, society, etc - it means the opposite - "DO WHAT IS RIGHT" (Even if it could go against local rules and customs).


"Do not judge or you will be judged. By the same measure you use to judge others, you will also be judged"

 

[hobelim]

600,000 words of the Old Testament.

100 or so words of the 3 little pigs story.

You forgot to include every fairy tale myth or fable ever written..

You seem to be a person of logic - do you still want to compare the two?

Whats the difference? "In the beginning" is exactly the same as "Once upon a time."

I will tell you something. Try to hear.

Every fantastical story in the Bible that contradicts what everyone knows to be true about reality, whatever their religion or lack of religion, is like a giant X on a treasure map marking the exact place where something of great value was DELIBERATELY buried and hidden.


"The kingdom of Heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it BURIED IT AGAIN" MATT 13:44

 

[Mac-7]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

The headline is false

Jesus is alive today

 

[hobelim]

This quote does not mean, "Be just in your judgements" - as it would pertain to physical judgements on others, society, etc - it means the opposite - "DO WHAT IS RIGHT" (Even if it could go against local rules and customs).


"Do not judge or you will be judged. By the same measure you use to judge others, you will also be judged"

You forgot to include John 7:24 in your speculations;

"Do not judge superficially, but be just in your judgments." (NEB)

 

[Ace Nova]

It means don't give Caesar anything because everything belongs to God, nothing belongs to caesar. In fact the idea that anyone owns anything is an absurd dellusion. If you don't believe me to to a graveyard and ask the people buried there if they ever owned anything, even life.

"You can't take it with you."

What does this truly mean?

Luke 16:

“Whoever can be trusted in small matters can also be trusted in great ones, but whoever is dishonest in small matters will also be dishonest in great ones. 11;Therefore, if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will entrust you with true riches? And if you have not shown yourself to be trustworthy with what belongs to another, who will give you anything of your own?

 

[Ace Nova]

You forgot to include John 7:24 in your speculations;

"Do not judge superficially, but be just in your judgments." (NEB)

It is the same quote. I posted John 24 in error. It was John 7:24. (NCB)

 

[Woodznutz]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

I see Trump as kind of Ezekiel, the "watchman" who warns "the house of Israel", the WASPs', about impending danger if they don't wake up.

 

[hobelim]

I see Trump as kind of Ezekiel, the "watchman" who warns "the house of Israel", the WASPs', about impending danger if they don't wake up.

HE IS THE IMPENDING DANGER Including his perverse bigoted racist fascist supporters.

IF YOU CORRUPT RELIGIOUSLY ADDLED REPUBLICAN NUMBSKULLS DON'T WAKE UP.

You faithless cowards.

 

[Ace Nova]

You forgot to include every fairy tale myth or fable ever written..


Whats the difference? "In the beginning" is exactly the same as "Once upon a time."

I will tell you something. Try to hear.

Every fantastical story in the Bible that contradicts what everyone knows to be true about reality, whatever their religion or lack of religion, is like a giant X on a treasure map marking the exact place where something of great value was DELIBERATELY buried and hidden.


"The kingdom of Heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it BURIED IT AGAIN" MATT 13:44

Matthew 13:

The Parables of the Hidden Treasure and the Pearl.

The kingdom of heaven is like treasure buried in a field, which a man found and buried again. Then in his joy he went off and sold everything he had and bought that field.

Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant searching for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he went off and sold everything he had and bought it.


These passages are about the joy of discovering "The Kingdom of Heaven". To the man and the merchant, the Kingdom of Heaven is a treasure and a pearl worth more than all their belongings.

 

[Ace Nova]

HE IS THE IMPENDING DANGER Including his perverse bigoted racist fascist supporters.

IF YOU CORRUPT RELIGIOUSLY ADDLED REPUBLICAN NUMBSKULLS DON'T WAKE UP.

You faithless cowards.

What exactly concerns you about Trump? (Other than the typical click bait paranoia nonsense)?

 

[hobelim]

It is the same quote. I posted John 24 in error. It was John 7:24. (NEB)

Then I suggest you find a better translation.

 

[Ace Nova]

Then I suggest you find a better translation.

I could try to find some of the original scrolls - but the meaning of the passages would remain the same.

 

[hobelim]

What exactly concerns you about Trump?

You might not have noticed being an idolator and all, go figure, but trump has usurped a place of authority that is not his and is brazenly involved in a WW2 style fascist attempt to take over the world and destroy freedom, democracy, liberty, and the power of the people.

 

[hobelim]

I could try to find some of the original scrolls - but the meaning of the passages would remain the same.

Right. "Be just in your judgments."

 

[ElmerMudd]

I see Trump as kind of Ezekiel, the "watchman" who warns "the house of Israel", the WASPs', about impending danger if they don't wake up.

You have it all wrong. Trump is what Ezekiel warns of. Some people listen to the devil and worship Trump.

 

[ElmerMudd]

The headline is false

Jesus is alive today

Yes, but the USA will not let him vote.
If he could, who would he have voted for in 2024?

 

[Ace Nova]

You might not have noticed being an idolator and all, go figure, but trump has usurped a place of authority that is not his and is openly and brazenly involved in a WW2 style fascist attempt to take over the world and destroy freedom, democracy, liberty, and the power of the people.

The only idolater in this conversation is you. You proclaim to reveal "deeper and hidden meanings" of ancient texts - and as with anyone who idolizes their own knowledge above the very source of the works themselves - you have fallen off course.

Although there may be hope for you yet - take note of what is written:

Ezekiel 28:

Your heart has grown proud,
and thus you say, “I am a god;
I sit on a godly throne
in the heart of the seas.”
But in reality you are a man, and not a god,
even though you compare your mind
with that of a god.
Are you as wise as Daniel?
Is no secret hidden from you?




Revelation 2:24:

‘ “And I say to the rest of you in Thyatira who have not accepted this teaching and who have no knowledge of what are designated as the deep secrets of Satan. I shall not impose any further burden on you, but hold firmly to what you have until I come.





Do not fall into the trap of your Adversary - for every revelation that comes forth in your mind as being "logical and true" can easily become corrupted with deceit - the ransom due for declaring yourself greater than the source of the knowledge itself.

 

[hobelim]

The only idolater in this conversation is you.

No. You worship a trinity that became an edible mangod. You are the epitome of an idolator.

You'll never catch me on my knees seeking spiritual life from a matzo made by human hands.

I'd rather be drawn and quartered, set on fire, beheaded, hung, or crucified upside down.

You proclaim to reveal "deeper and hidden meanings" of ancient texts

Thats exactly what I've done. Damn. First you act surprised that someone would have a problem with trump and now you act like I didn't do what you say I 'proclaim' to have done.



You remind me of Rip Van Winkle who drank a MYSTERIOUS drink and slept for 20 years.... even through the American revolution.

If trump wasn't prancing around like a gorilla in a tutu I might understand your discomfit.

Its hard not to notice the perversity, the lies, the misogyny, racism, bigotry, thinly veiled Nazi propaganda, accusations of pedophilia, sex trafficking, shafting workers, fascism, blowing up boats in the name of the war on drugs, while pardoning a drug lord who paid the price.

WTF.

 

[Mac-7]

Yes, but the USA will not let him vote.
If he could, who would he have voted for in 2024?

Neither

Whrn Jesus returns He will be King

 

[SaxonJackson]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?​

Hell no! But Satan is pretty fond of him. Warmongers and Pedo-protectors seem to go hand-in-hand in Washington D.C.