Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hobelim]

Tis true that I died with Christ and am reborn brand new.

No, you did not die with Christ. You died in enmity with Jesus Christ because of your own deliberate choice to pretend to believe in what YOU ALREADY KNOW IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE LITERALLY TRUE and so you became a completely false person, a brand new golem.

That's the Gospel.

No the good news is that God, my God, is not a cruel and capricious petty tyrant with the carnal obsessions of diet fashion and the sexual preferences of consenting adults worthy of a deranged salacious and perverted malignant narcissistic and lecherous old fart..

 

[hadit]

No, you did not die with Christ. You died in enmity with Jesus Christ because of your own deliberate choice to pretend to believe in what YOU ALREADY KNOW IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE LITERALLY TRUE and so you became a completely false person, a brand new golem.

And there you go, denying that God has the power to do everything that Christ did, since He is God. See how lame your position is, where you simultaneously claim that God is all-powerful and can do anything, yet denying even the possibility that He did? You deny that God has the power to raise from the dead, to heal deafness, infirmity, blindness, etc. You deny all of that, yet claim He has the power to create all this?

No the good news is that God, my God, is not a cruel and capricious petty tyrant with the carnal obsessions of diet fashion and the sexual preferences of consenting adults worthy of a deranged salacious and perverted malignant narcissistic and lecherous old fart..

God is not any of that, for anyone. And He is not just MY God, He is the God of all creation. Tsk, tsk, you should have known that.

 

[hobelim]

And there you go, denying that God has the power to do everything that Christ did, since He is God.

Oh please! How can you fail to see and accept the reality that this God who in theory could do anything has done? You Iive in a world of constant unchanging constants. Gravity, mortality, biological and well known and universally accepted scientific facts.

See how lame your position is, where you simultaneously claim that God is all-powerful and can do anything, yet denying even the possibility that He did?

I see how lame your response to the charges of practicing idolatry, perjuring yourself in the name of God, and desecrating the WORDS of Jesus is and all you can do is deflect from your guilt by insinuating that I don't have the faith to accept was was written when the real question is how can you pretend to believe in what you already know is impossible to be literally true?

Why do you not accept the reality that God who could potentially do anything has created and insist some rabble rousing 1st century man changed all that but only for a few years?

How lame is that?

 

[hobelim]

And He is not just MY God, He is the God of all creation

Nonsense. Genesis is not about the creation of everything. It is about the creation of heaven and earth. A world above, where I come from, and a world below where you exist without life.

There are the children of God and the children of the devil.

There is no God in hell.

Only false gods, an imaginary mangod, the antichrist created by the delusions of your unrestrained imagination.

 

[hadit]

Oh please! How can you fail to see and accept the reality that this God who in theory could do anything has done? You Iive in a world of constant unchanging constants. Gravity, mortality, biological and well known and universally accepted scientific facts.

The God who created it can control it. If not, He is not God. That's pretty simple and easy to understand.

I see how lame your response to the charges of practicing idolatry, perjuring yourself in the name of God, and desecrating the WORDS of Jesus is and all you can do is deflect from your guilt by insinuating that I don't have the faith to accept was was written when the real question is how can you pretend to believe in what you already know is impossible to be literally true?

Why do you not accept the reality that God who could potentially do anything has created and insist some rabble rousing 1st century man changed all that but only for a few years?

How lame is that?

Ah, it is interesting that while you claim to revere the Christ, you are here denigrating Him as a "rabble rousing 1st century man". Did you not realize that is what you were doing?

 

[hadit]

Nonsense. Genesis is not about the creation of everything. It is about the creation of heaven and earth. A world above, where I come from, and a world below where you exist without life.

So you do not consider yourself to be human? That's interesting. What do you think you are?

There are the children of God and the children of the devil.

Yes, there are. I am a child of God, whose child are you?

There is no God in hell.

Only false gods, an imaginary mangod, the antichrist created by the delusions of your unrestrained imagination.

Since hell is the absence of God, it makes sense that He does not go in there. He would bring goodness with Him, and the devil and his angels would benefit.

 

[hobelim]

The God who created it can control it. If not, He is not God. That's pretty simple and easy to understand.

God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind.

 

[hobelim]

Yes, there are. I am a child of God,

Bullshit.

You are a liar. No one who does not do what is right is a child of God. You do what is wrong.

See 1 John 3:4-10

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

I seem to recall something in Matthew where Jesus supposedly said, " I did not come to change the law."
As laws were in place at the time to impose the death penalty for things like infidelity and homosexuality, that would mean he didn't want those laws changed.

 

[hobelim]

Since hell is the absence of God, it makes sense that He does not go in there. He would bring goodness with Him, and the devil and his angels would benefit.

Whoosh! Did you hear that! There goes your "belief" that an imaginary mangod, the Antichrist, a counterfeit Jesus, God in the flesh, derp, descended into hell to preach to the dead.

 

[hobelim]

As laws were in place at the time to impose the death penalty for things like infidelity and homosexuality, that would mean he didn't want those laws changed.

You may not realize this but God never needed any human element to either judge or enforce his own Law.

If you set aside the Law to worship Jesus as if he was God in the flesh, derp, you died and descended into hell in the same day you brazenly defied the Law to do such a stupid thing.

 

[ding]

How many of you are there? Seriously.

The fact is I have revealed hidden teaching in stories in the OT and NT and the Law read by billions of people for thousands of years who never saw it. People far more honest dedicated and faithful than you who would have acted immediately upon its revelation.

"The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it BURIED IT AGAIN." Mat 13:44, What is the plain simple meaning of that mr smartypants?

I have already shown how Jesus cured a blindness of perception and not sight. If you want more evidence that I have been granted the power and authority to reveal that which Jesus had hidden ask about what was hidden in the "miracle" of feeding of the multitude where numbskulls like ding "believe" Jesus fed thousands of people fish sandwiches out of thin air.

Says the guy who thinks Leviticus 18:22 is a command for men to butt **** other men.

 

[hobelim]

Says the guy who thinks Leviticus 18:22 is a command for men to butt **** other men.

Liar.

I never said any such thing you brokeback mountain asshole obsessed with homosexuality.

 

[ding]

Liar.

I never said any such thing you brokeback mountain asshole obsessed with homosexuality.

I'm not the one lying about Leviticus 18:22. That would be you. You make up more shit about the bible than anyone I know.

 

[hobelim]

I'm not the one lying about Leviticus 18:22. That would be you.

Listen. Just be yourself. If you have homosexual tendencies, overcompensating only makes you look pathetic. Condemning others for their sexuality doesn't make you heterosexual.

 

[ding]

Listen. Just be yourself. If you have homosexual tendencies, overcompensating only makes you look pathetic. Condemning others for their sexuality doesn't make you manly. Stupid.

I'm condemning you for lying about what Leviticus 18:22 says. Tell me some more fairy tales.

 

[ding]

So you do not consider yourself to be human? That's interesting. What do you think you are?

Yes, there are. I am a child of God, whose child are you?

Since hell is the absence of God, it makes sense that He does not go in there. He would bring goodness with Him, and the devil and his angels would benefit.

Hobelim is a joke.

 

[hobelim]

I'm condemning you for lying about what Leviticus 18:22 says

But you just falsely claimed that I said that Law is a command "to butt **** other men."

I never said any such thing.

I said that that Law has absolutely nothing to do with sex. Lets take the priesthood. There you have men who have forsaken natural relations with women to swear obedience to the Pope, another man, for life as if they were married, his wife. And you nurse on their titties and go to church to get shafted religiously by them as they get you to degrade yourself by getting you down on your knees to seek spiritual life from a lifeless matzo made by human hands.

Face it ding, you are as queer as a three dollar bill..

 

[ding]

But you just falsely claimed that I said that Law is a command "to butt **** other men."

I never said any such thing.

I said that that Law has absolutely nothing whatever to do with sex. Lets take the priesthood. There you have men who have forsaken natural relations with women to swear obedience to the Pope, another man, for life as if they were married, his wife.

And you go to church to get shafted religiously by them.

Face it ding, you are as queer as a three dollar bill..

It has everything to do with sex as do the other 21 commands in the passage. So until you say it right, this is what you are going to get.

You believe Leviticus 18:22 is a command for men to butt **** other men.

 

[hobelim]

It has everything to do with sex as do the other 21 commands in the passage. So until you say it right, this is what you are going to get.

You believe Leviticus 18:22 is a command for men to butt **** other men.

So where is your concern for the billions of people, decent God fearing Christian family values folk, like you, dead and in hells keeping, for practicing idolatry, sorcery, and murder?

You should probably let homosexuals worry about themselves and worry about your self. Obviously Jesus didn't absolve you from "the death", a curse, consequent to YOUR SINS.

Even when you throw him under the bus and celebrate his death and solemnly eat him in the form of a cracker.

Damn.