Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[ding]

Pft.

Pft.

Not as much fun playing robber bird when you have to defend YOUR nest, eh?

 

[hadit]

Not as much fun playing robber bird when you have to defend YOUR nest, eh?

We ALL would love to claim that we alone have discovered, after thousands of years of ignorance, a brand-new gospel hidden in Scripture that just happens to conform to what we are already doing and what we want to do with our lives. That would be very nice, but it's not the way Scripture works and it's not the way God works.

God told us how He wants us to live, first in the Law, then in the covenant Jesus brought. Contrary to the opinion of some, Jesus raised the bar on sin, taking it from behavior into attitude. No longer were you free from sexual sin just because you didn't touch your neighbor's wife. Now you are in sin if you so much as lust after her. No longer were you free from violent sin because you didn't attack your neighbor. Now you are in sin if you so much as hate him.

The Scriptures bring comfort, but they also bring discomfort and conviction. Distorting them to make ourselves feel better is a grievous mistake.

 

[BreezeWood]

The Scriptures bring comfort, but they also bring discomfort and conviction. Distorting them to make ourselves feel better is a grievous mistake.

as why the crucifiers waited till the 4th century to write their christian bible of forgeries, lies and fallacies et al ...

using their victim, jesus as a foil for their own corrupt agenda as including in their bible the phony 10 commandments claimed by the liar moses for the same inane purpose the jews chose them for themselves to persecute and victimize the innocent as their own discretion.

 

[hobelim]

You didn't think of that before you opened the door?

Wrong. I didn't respond because you were doing exactly what you said Jesus mentioned about what defiles and contaminates the mind. In this case your mind.

" Now, what exactly does Jesus not want to go in and come out of your mind? Something about arrogance and pride? Something about self-righteousness and trying to elevate yourself above your station?"

You act like you showing me something that I didn't know about the subject of Kosher law in the vain attempt to try and deflect from the fact that if scripture is true you died and descended into hell, the realm of the dead, in the very same day you first got down on your knees to blubber to a trinity that became an innocent sacrificial mangod who died for you so you don't have to pay the penalty for your own sins even though you are paying the price daily.

The fact that you are not aware of your demise is evidence of your demise. You may not see it but others do.

What then?

Pft.

 

[hobelim]

We ALL would love to claim that we alone have discovered, after thousands of years of ignorance, a brand-new gospel hidden in Scripture that just happens to conform to what we are already doing and what we want to do with our lives.

How many of you are there? Seriously.

The fact is I have revealed hidden teaching in stories in the OT and NT and the Law read by billions of people for thousands of years who never saw it. People far more honest dedicated and faithful than you who would have acted immediately upon its revelation.

"The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it BURIED IT AGAIN." Mat 13:44, What is the plain simple meaning of that mr smartypants?

I have already shown how Jesus cured a blindness of perception and not sight. If you want more evidence that I have been granted the power and authority to reveal that which Jesus had hidden ask about what was hidden in the "miracle" of feeding of the multitude where numbskulls like ding "believe" Jesus fed thousands of people fish sandwiches out of thin air.

 

[hadit]

How many of you are there? Seriously.

There are millions of people who have read the Word and understood it throughout history. You would know that if you ever thought outside yourself.

The fact is that I have revealed hidden teaching in stories read by billions of people for thousands of years who never saw it. People far more honest dedicated and faithful than you.

It was not revealed to you. Here's a clue, when God reveals something profound in Scripture to someone, He does not intend that person to keep the revelation to themselves, yet you do exactly that, thinking you know something nobody else does. That's sad.

I have already shown how Jesus cured a blindness of perception and not sight.

No, you've just said that's what Scripture means while you try to deny Jesus' Lordship.

If you want more evidence that I have been granted the power and authority to reveal that which Jesus had hidden ask about what was hidden in the "miracle" of feeding of the multitude where numbskulls like ding "believe" Jesus fed thousands of people fish sandwiches out of thin air.

On the contrary, you have not shown anything, you have merely restated your contention multiple times, a contention that ignores the plain meaning of the Scriptures as they are written. You approach Scripture with the desire to deny Jesus did anything supernatural yet claim to revere Him. Who did Daniel see being seated next to God and receiving glory, honor and praise in God's presence?

 

[hobelim]

It was not revealed to you. Here's a clue, when God reveals something profound in Scripture to someone, He does not intend that person to keep the revelation to themselves, yet you do exactly that, thinking you know something nobody else does. That's sad.

Oh cut the crap you phony ****.

No one makes 16,000 public posts about a revelation that he is trying to keep to himself.

 

[hobelim]

You approach Scripture with the desire to deny Jesus did anything supernatural yet claim to revere Him.

The fact that Jesus did not have supernatural power over reality makes what he accomplished even more astonishing.

Stupid.

 

[hobelim]

On the contrary, you have not shown anything, you have merely restated your contention multiple times, a contention that ignores the plain meaning of the Scriptures as they are written.

So do you want to know what actually happened during the miracle of feeding the multitude?

Yes or no.

I have openly claimed to have been granted by my God the power and authority to reveal hidden teaching, hidden stories in scripture never seen or heard before in living memory without adding subtracting or changing a single word. Why not see if I am full of shit. You have the entire internet at your disposal. If you want to know the truth just ask and I will show you something and then you can check to see if anyone has ever said anything like that ever since it was written and, if you can find anything, then you can get to scream blasphemy! Liar! False prophet! Or, like ding likes too say, God hating Christian hating angry Jewish man,

or, secular Jesus.

lol.

So before you go running for a touchdown into the wrong end zone, again, guess what happens if I am right.

 

[Hafar1014]

We ALL would love to claim that we alone have discovered, after thousands of years of ignorance, a brand-new gospel hidden in Scripture that just happens to conform to what we are already doing and what we want to do with our lives. That would be very nice, but it's not the way Scripture works and it's not the way God works.

God told us how He wants us to live, first in the Law, then in the covenant Jesus brought. Contrary to the opinion of some, Jesus raised the bar on sin, taking it from behavior into attitude. No longer were you free from sexual sin just because you didn't touch your neighbor's wife. Now you are in sin if you so much as lust after her. No longer were you free from violent sin because you didn't attack your neighbor. Now you are in sin if you so much as hate him.

The Scriptures bring comfort, but they also bring discomfort and conviction. Distorting them to make ourselves feel better is a grievous mistake.

Making thoughts a sin is oppression and act of cruelty and typical of the NAZI culture. ITs the attempt to control people who by nature strive to be free

 

[hobelim]

Making thoughts a sin is oppression and act of cruelty and typical of the NAZI culture. ITs the attempt to control people who by nature strive to be free

Jesus was just pointing out the hypocrisy of people condemning others for doing something they were all thinking about.

 

[Hafar1014]

Jesus was just pointing out the hypocrisy of people condemning others for doing something they were thinking about.

The Catholic church makes thoughts a sin. You have no idea what Jesus meant. A thought cant be a sin thats an act of oppression that ignores human nature

 

[hobelim]

The Catholic church makes thoughts a sin.

So. Its a clever way to paralyze people with a thought conundrum. Damn crafty them 4th century Romans. Make people believe that their own mind is the enemy, their own thoughts a satanic attack on their faith, and they won't be able to function. Easily led by the nose.

You have no idea what Jesus meant.

Read it for yourself and then tell me that. What he meant is obvious to me.

 

[hadit]

The fact that Jesus did not have supernatural power over reality makes what he accomplished even more astonishing.

Stupid.

The fact is, He had exactly that power. You have to invent new meanings for things to avoid it.

 

[hobelim]

The fact is, He had exactly that power. You have to invent new meanings for things to avoid it.

No, you would have to ignore everything that you already know to be the truth about actual reality to profess to 'believe' that superstitious archaic lore which exposes you as an actor and lying fraud. You might as well claim to believe pigs could talk, build houses, and the huffing and puffing big bad wolf is the enemy of humanity because "it is written" in a fairy tale.




Damn. Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[hadit]

No, you would have to ignore everything that you already know to be the truth about actual reality to profess to 'believe' that superstitious archaic lore which exposes you as an actor and lying fraud. You might as well claim to believe that pigs could talk, build houses, and the huffing and puffing big bad wolf is the enemy of humanity because it is written in a fairy tale.




Damn. Who do you think you're fooling?

I'm simply telling you what the Scriptures you claim to revere tell us. Of course, you pervert the plain meaning of the Scriptures, but we've known that for a long time.

 

[hobelim]

I'm simply telling you what the Scriptures you claim to revere tell us

And whatever "us" is is telling me that for lying in the name of God, desecrating the WORDS of Jesus, bowing down to and worshipping a mangod, the Antichrist (a false counterfeit imaginary Jesus), and misleading others to do the same, you have lost your soul. You have exchanged your birthright as an individual that reflects the image and likeness of a Holy (separate) God, my God, to become an insignificant furuncle oozing pus and giving off putrid smells on the ass of a self negating multiplicity that is slowly disintegrating into nothingness.

 

[hadit]

And whatever "us" is is telling me that for lying in the name of God, desecrating the WORDS of Jesus, and bowing down to and worshipping a mangod, the Antichrist, a false counterfeit imaginary Jesus, you have become an insignificant furuncle oozing pus and giving off putrid smells on the ass of a self negating multiplicity that is slowly disintegrating into nothingness.

Your hate-filled screed about me tells me you have no love from God in you, and if you have no love from God in you, you are not speaking for Him. And if you are not speaking for Him, you are not correctly reading or revealing His Word.

 

[hobelim]

Your hate-filled screed about me tells me you have no love from God in you

Do you think I give a shit what you think WORDS that are both Spirit and life tell you?

As if you weren't gully of practicing idolatry, worshipping the Antichrist, desecrating the Words of Jesus, and misleading others to do the same, which amounts to murder in the same exact way that Jesus meant when he said ,"Satan was a murderer from the beginning." even though he literally didn't commit homicide, at least according to the fairy tale that is..

If the plain meaning of scripture is true then verily, lol, you died a very very long time ago.

 

[hadit]

Do you think I give a shit what you think WORDS that are both Spirit and life tell you?

As if you weren't gully of practicing idolatry, worshipping the Antichrist, desecrating the Words of Jesus, and misleading others to do the same, which amounts to murder in the same exact way that Jesus meant when he said ,"Satan was a murderer from the beginning." even though he literally didn't commit homicide, at least according to the fairy tale that is..

If the plain meaning of scripture is true then verily, lol, you died a very very long time ago.

'Tis true that I died with Christ and am reborn brand new. That's the Gospel.