Would god be against free Health care?

[Terry]

You act like government run healthcare is guaranteed to work better overall than what we have now. Government health care (which by the way won't be free, we pay it with taxes) I think will by run by ungodly incompetence, like most of government and be ultimately worse, kinda like comparing the postal service to UPS and FedEx.

not to mention the pay czar will set the standard wages for doctor's then will have a shortage of good doctors.

 

[RodISHI]

If god is so great, why doesn't he supply free health care himself?

Why don't people become a bit more responsible and then there would not be such a need here?

Can't say I have ever been denied medical care when it was absolutely needed except one asshole doctor that sent me home to die.

So if people were more responsable, nobody would ever get sick?

So why did god give you a nasty health problem anyway?

I was playing my Job part.

 

[Tech_Esq]

We all know that the right winged folks are in the majority when it comes to being religious. Yet it is the righters that are so against Nationalized health care. So here is the irony. How can someone be of god, yet seek to destroy a program that may help in Gods purpoose, sustaining life? Would God be against nationalized heath care?

Why is it that you don't understand what comes after Nationalized Health Care? Are you you really dense or is it something you really haven't thought through?

Although I hate to do this, let me just give you the answer. Nationalized Health Care will result in Rationed Health Care. Why? Because it is the ONLY way it can work.

So your answer is that YES, God would be against systematically rationing health care and deciding who lives and who dies based upon the relative advantage to society of spending the money to give the person treatment to keep them alive etc.

If you don't believe that's what happens, you need only go to some of the Web sites of British papers and read the stories about NICE (the British control board who determines treatment under the British nation health system).

You'll just have to forgive us, Tech, for not putting much water in your pale given the failures of those other theories (free market capitalism) that never did pan out the way your kind insisted they would on penalty of Armageddon-like consequences.

I don't have any "kind" so just deal with me.

I didn't advocate here for "Free Market Capitalism" as a solution. Strawman much?

All I did was answer the question and provide a reason.

 

[Toro]

I don't know but I think Jesus, if He were alive today, would probably tell us that people should get all the medical care they need without being wiped out financially.

 

[Tech_Esq]

You act like government run healthcare is guaranteed to work better overall than what we have now. Government health care (which by the way won't be free, we pay it with taxes) I think will by run by ungodly incompetence, like most of government and be ultimately worse, kinda like comparing the postal service to UPS and FedEx.

not to mention the pay czar will set the standard wages for doctor's then will have a shortage of good doctors.

What makes you think there will still be people who want to be doctors?

 

[Father Time]

I don't know but I think Jesus, if He were alive today, would probably tell us that people should get all the medical care they need without being wiped out financially.

I doubt Jesus cared much about people's financial state unless they were in poverty.

 

[Terry]

You act like government run healthcare is guaranteed to work better overall than what we have now. Government health care (which by the way won't be free, we pay it with taxes) I think will by run by ungodly incompetence, like most of government and be ultimately worse, kinda like comparing the postal service to UPS and FedEx.

not to mention the pay czar will set the standard wages for doctor's then will have a shortage of good doctors.

What makes you think there will still be people who want to be doctors?

yeah that too!

 

[RodISHI]

I don't know but I think Jesus, if He were alive today, would probably tell us that people should get all the medical care they need without being wiped out financially.

I think He would tell ya the same thing He told His disciples concerning the love of money...

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

 

[Toro]

I don't know but I think Jesus, if He were alive today, would probably tell us that people should get all the medical care they need without being wiped out financially.

I doubt Jesus cared much about people's financial state unless they were in poverty.

Which is what they'd be if they were bankrupted by their healthcare bills.

 

[Tinktink]

You act like government run healthcare is guaranteed to work better overall than what we have now. Government health care (which by the way won't be free, we pay it with taxes) I think will by run by ungodly incompetence, like most of government and be ultimately worse, kinda like comparing the postal service to UPS and FedEx.

That isn't my point, nor my question. Why would people of faith be against "Free Health care" for their fellow man.

And instead of blasting it, why not seek ways to make it work? As far as taxes you right folks are defending the war Bush started and have no problem on all the taxes you pay to fight that war. Just seems real contradictory to me.

 

[elvis]

We all know that the right winged folks are in the majority when it comes to being religious. Yet it is the righters that are so against Nationalized health care. So here is the irony. How can someone be of god, yet seek to destroy a program that may help in Gods purpoose, sustaining life? Would God be against nationalized heath care?

you believe there IS a such thing as free health care on this earth and YOU have the balls to criticize what others believe in?

 

[Tinktink]

We all know that the right winged folks are in the majority when it comes to being religious. Yet it is the righters that are so against Nationalized health care. So here is the irony. How can someone be of god, yet seek to destroy a program that may help in Gods purpoose, sustaining life? Would God be against nationalized heath care?

you believe there IS a such thing as free health care on this earth and YOU have the balls to criticize what others believe in?

I am not criticizing anything, just asking for someone to clear up the hypocrasy.

 

[elvis]

We all know that the right winged folks are in the majority when it comes to being religious. Yet it is the righters that are so against Nationalized health care. So here is the irony. How can someone be of god, yet seek to destroy a program that may help in Gods purpoose, sustaining life? Would God be against nationalized heath care?

you believe there IS a such thing as free health care on this earth and YOU have the balls to criticize what others believe in?

I am not criticizing anything, just asking for someone to clear up the hypocrasy.

the hypocrisy is those on the left saying that health care would be free if only we had what canada has.

 

[Father Time]

We all know that the right winged folks are in the majority when it comes to being religious. Yet it is the righters that are so against Nationalized health care. So here is the irony. How can someone be of god, yet seek to destroy a program that may help in Gods purpoose, sustaining life? Would God be against nationalized heath care?

you believe there IS a such thing as free health care on this earth and YOU have the balls to criticize what others believe in?

I am not criticizing anything, just asking for someone to clear up the hypocrasy.

I all ready did. There's no guarantee the government plan will work better, and I bet that it will hurt the state of healthcare in this country. That's primarily why I'm against it.

 

[RodISHI]

That isn't my point, nor my question. Why would people of faith be against "Free Health care" for their fellow man.

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That was not your original question. If your going to ask a question and change it later and make a claim to something else you are being very dishonest. Typical...

People of faith I know...some are doctors provide free health care to people that cannot afford care. I have friends that are attorneys that do the same...they help people even when they do not have money. Do I object to that? Absolutely not. Do I object to free loaders that use and abuse other peoples good will? YES! That goes for freeloading scumbags of any type. I object to some snot nose brat that thinks this world owes him/her a free ride. NO free rides in this world. You work for it. Charity of free will offerings is a whole different ballgame.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You act like government run healthcare is guaranteed to work better overall than what we have now. Government health care (which by the way won't be free, we pay it with taxes) I think will by run by ungodly incompetence, like most of government and be ultimately worse, kinda like comparing the postal service to UPS and FedEx.

Good point.

I wonder if the Tinkster would like his 'Depends' for free as well:



Mark Steyn in NRO:
This story from Le Journal de Montréal is en français, but you don’t have to know the lingo of the Continent to figure out the meaning of le mot “incontinent”:

Des patients souffrant d’un problème d’incontinence grave doivent attendre jusqu’à trois ans pour une opération qui dure à peine 30 minutes.
- which means: In the Province of Quebec, patients suffering from serious incontinence – ie, they have to aller aux toilettes jusqu’à 12 fois par nuit (that’s 12 times a night) – have to wait three years for a half-hour operation. That’s 3 years times 365 nights times 12 trips to the bathroom.

There are only two urologists in the province who perform the operation, in part because hospital budgets are so tight they decline to buy the necessary “neurostimulator”.
The central point about socialized medicine is that restricting access is the only means of controlling costs. And, when comparisons of health “costs” between nations are made, the time you spend in the bathroom each night and the subsequent impact on your work performance the following day are not factored in.

Of course, if you get sick of the three-year wait, you can always drive a couple of hours south, with frequent rest stops, to Fletcher Allen Hospital in Vermont or Dartmouth-Hitchcock in New Hampshire, and write a check. For the moment. Once the US system has been “reformed” so that its wait lists are up to Euro-Canadian standards, poor incontinent Quebeckers will have to drive to Costa Rica. And that’s a lot more rest stops.
Left, Right, and Centered

 

[Avatar4321]

God is not against Free health care. In fact, He heals people all the time for free.

However, I would think it unwise to presume that government controled health care is free or that its beneficial for a centralized power to control our health decisions. God helped our Founders establish this Constitution on just and holy principles. The idea was that people should be free to choose. I dont see how giving up the power of the people to make their health care decisions is something God would want us to do after He spent thousands of years preparing this people to be Free.

When people decide to rely on government instead of God, destruction will come. Not because God will be angry, but because mankind foolishly trusts something that will never work.

 

[Tinktink]

I don't know but I think Jesus, if He were alive today, would probably tell us that people should get all the medical care they need without being wiped out financially.

 

[amrchaos]

We all know that the right winged folks are in the majority when it comes to being religious. Yet it is the righters that are so against Nationalized health care. So here is the irony. How can someone be of god, yet seek to destroy a program that may help in Gods purpoose, sustaining life? Would God be against nationalized heath care?

Does God provide Universal Health Care?

The answer is no.

What? You thought the answer is yes? God created sickness and disease and all things of nature!! If this GOD wanted to keep Humans from becoming sick, then sickness and disease would not exits.

Nice try though.

 

[Oddball]

We all know that the right winged folks are in the majority when it comes to being religious. Yet it is the righters that are so against Nationalized health care. So here is the irony. How can someone be of god, yet seek to destroy a program that may help in Gods purpoose, sustaining life? Would God be against nationalized heath care?

you believe there IS a such thing as free health care on this earth and YOU have the balls to criticize what others believe in?

I am not criticizing anything, just asking for someone to clear up the hypocrasy.

Oh, we've cleared up the hypocrisy alright.

Liberal socialists squeal like stuck pigs about the mythical separation of church and state, right up to the point that they need to use religion as a cudgel to "prove" that God shares their collectivist authoritarian politics.