Would ANY Bush Basher care to refute these statements???

[Porker]

 

[healthmyths]

The Iraq War Who voted for it why you should still care hint Iran

The Iraq War: Who voted for it, why you should still care (hint: Iran)
3/20/13 10:00am by Gaius Publius 20 Comments



March 19 marked the 10-year anniversary of the Iraq War. On that day the bombs started falling.

This is the war no one wants to remember, since, as the Professor says, almost everyone in media position to talk about it today, screwed up big time back then (my emphasis):

[T]here’s a very big anniversary coming up next week — the start of the Iraq war. So why does there seem to be so little coverage?

Well, it’s not hard to think of a reason: a lot of people behaved badly in the runup to that war, and many though not all people in the news media behaved especially badly. … To come out against the war, let alone to suggest that the Bush administration was deliberately misleading the nation into war, looked all too likely to be a career-ending stance. And there were all too few profiles in courage.

The war, then, was a big test — a test of your ability to cut through a fog of propaganda, but also a test of your moral and to some extent personal courage. And a lot of people in the media failed.

But if the action in the press was bad, the action in Congress was worse. After all, that war needed authorization, and it was hotly debated. In the interest of accountability, here’s the Democratic Yes vote in the Senate.


Sadik Gulec / Shutterstock.com

A hint in reading these votes. A vote for the winning side in a lopsided vote is generally — but not always — a sincere vote. (Some people jump on a winner after it’s won for cosmetic purposes, but most are sincere.) A vote on thelosing side of a lopsided vote can be highly suspect. Many voters are clearly sincere — we find Paul Wellstone and Bernie Sanders voting No — but once the whip count is in and the outcome is predetermined, a vote for the losing side can be cosmetic only, all appearances.

That’s a general statement, not one I’m making about this vote. But do keep the point in mind. There are a lot of instances where a senator or House member will go to his or her leader and ask, “Look, this one is in the bag. Mind if I vote against? I have a tough election coming up.” The leader can then say, “Sure,” or “Sure, but you owe me.” It’s how this stuff works.

Senate Democratic votes for the Iraq War
If you remember that day, it was a day of speeches. And at least out among the Littles, the final count wasn’t known until the roll was called. Here are your brave warrior Dems, those who voted Yes, covered in testosterone (or confusion) and glory. I’ve highlighted a few names to note:

YEAs — 77
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Dodd’s not around today, nor is Edwards, and Harkin is retiring. But the rest are still there — or in the case of Biden and Clinton, in position to do even greater damage.

Would you like to help them remember that you remember? After all, these fine people could be asked to vote on a greater disaster, the Israel-promoted war against Iran. The propaganda’s already in place, has been for over a year.

Just in case you want to remind them — “Don’t do it again!” — here are some nice phone numbers:

Joe Biden — 202-456-1111 (VP comment line)
Maria Cantwell — 202-224-3441
Hillary Clinton — personal website (according to Wikipedia)
Tom Harkin — 202-224-3254
John Kerry — 202-647-5291 (according to the U.S. Dept of State phone list; pdf)
Harry Reid — 202-224-3542
Chuck Schumer — 202-224-6542

My suspicion is that concentrating on Biden, Cantwell, Clinton, Kerry and Reid will do the most good. Kerry’s vote is especially ironic, given his place in anti-war history:


Happy calling!

(Update: Re Clinton, don’t miss this excellent video catch by commenter Bill Perdue.)

GP

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So they were wrong is what I gather?
The facts are they were right! UP to where the politics started entering!
AND then instead of normal mop up operations after a success "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"... we had idiots like these that encouraged
cheered, insulted our troops and in doing these idiots helped the recruiting of terrorists!

The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg put the question to Barham Salih, the former prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan's regional government and a former deputy prime minister of Iraq's federal government.
"But," he added, "it's important to understand where we started from. ...
Literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were sent to mass graves.
Ten years on from the demise of Saddam Hussein, we're still discovering mass graves across Iraq.
And Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein --
the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein."
So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it; and the fault for all that has gone wrong is ultimately with Iraqis themselves: It's a remarkable point of view to encounter in June 2013.
10 Years After the Fall of Saddam How Do Iraqis Look Back on the War - The Atlantic

Think about this dumb bastard...
AT FIRST he said this:
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003
THEN after Bush took Kerry at his word... DISARM Saddam... this butthead turns around and calls our troops terrorists!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

And this idiot calling our troops cold blooded killers! How helpful! U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D)"Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
And of course everyone KNOWS ALL of American troops are NAZIS Soviets... Killers!

And then Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

 

[Siete]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

O.K. Who said it? Who implied it and who made the banner? Ignoramus. Please say Bush said it.

The banner came from the Whitehouse...as did the idea for the photo-op just off shore from San Diego

So? The banner was referring to the crew's completed mission in the Gulf. Otherwise what does it mean to leftist progressive liberal pukes?

Thank you. Thank you all very much.

Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed

who the hell said that standing in front of a damn banner ?

operations in Iraq have ended .... my white American ass they ended.

 

[jwoodie]

Bush was the dude in charge. What he chose to do was a huge mistake. I don't care if every Democrat in congress begged him to invade Iraq. He did it. It was a mistake. He fucked up. Period.

Would you care to explain why the Iraq War was a mistake? Was it because Bush should have anticipated that an anti-American doofus would succeed him and abandon that country to Islamic terrorists? Please talk out of your other orifice for once.

 

[jknowgood]

Great thread. Lots of Democratic POLITICIANS caved into a feverish call for military action on the part of a very loud and very frightened electorate. Those chicken shit POLITICIANS listened to what Americans....who had been frightened by FOX NEWS and the BUSH ADMIN told them was needed.

I cheered when George stood on that pile of debris and promised justice. I was with that asshole 100%. He fucked up. Period.

WHERE did Bush Fuck up????
What about these assholes that encouraged the deaths of our troops! What kind of idiot are you to call them the good guys and Bush fucked UP?
Explain to me how come the MSM every every day put up all these casualties and idiots like THESE helped the terrorists prolong the conflict by tell them hey... our guys are the bad guys! You guys are the good guys!
These words from these DEMOCRATS encouraged as this Harvard Study proved that when words of emboldment are put out there was a increase in violence!
The Harvard Study asked: THE EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT
"Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?

The resounding answer WAS YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.
Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war.
In Iraqi provinces that were broadly comparable in social and economic terms, attacks increased between 7 percent and 10 percent following what the researchers call "high-mention weeks," like the two just before the November 2006 election.
And these statements which idiots like YOU most likely agreed with did everything in the world to encourage recruit and reward the terrorists to continue.

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

Remember Kerry EARLIER SAID...
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D)"Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.

then Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

These comments inflamed the terrorists AND demoralized our troops at the same time!

Bush was the dude in charge. What he chose to do was a huge mistake. I don't care if every Democrat in congress begged him to invade Iraq. He did it. It was a mistake. He fucked up. Period.

Oh okay all of a sudden the president is in charge. So why don't you think Obama should be? I know, because he is an idiot.

He is. We won't stupidly invade and occupy a sovereign nation based on bullshit while he's there.

He will find out about it on the 11 o'clock news? If it goes wrong?

 

[jknowgood]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

O.K. Who said it? Who implied it and who made the banner? Ignoramus. Please say Bush said it.

The banner came from the Whitehouse...as did the idea for the photo-op just off shore from San Diego

So? The banner was referring to the crew's completed mission in the Gulf. Otherwise what does it mean to leftist progressive liberal pukes?

Thank you. Thank you all very much.

Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed

who the hell said that standing in front of a damn banner ?

operations in Iraq have ended .... my white American ass they ended.

He was talking about that squadrons involvement, he was right.

 

[NYcarbineer]

147 Democrats voted against the disaster of the Iraq War.

7 Republicans voted against that disaster.

Now do the math. Which party got it right?

 

[Hossfly]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

O.K. Who said it? Who implied it and who made the banner? Ignoramus. Please say Bush said it.

AND IT WAS YOU dumb F.,..K!!!
The military objectives of overthrowing Saddam was accomplished.
It wasn't till assholes like you that hated Bush like the MSM did that you GAVE all sorts of encouragement to kill our troops!
If you can't comprehend what it is like as a soldier to hear/read comments like these from your Fellow Americans and much less Congressmen!
Remarks that the Harvard study have shown Prolonged and made more deaths because the bad guys LOVED to use these words in recruiting
more terrorists!
I mean it obviously is easy for you to be in the enemy camp and read/hear these words that validated your recruiting/murdering more US troops!
Words like "Americans are killing civilians"! Americans are terrorists! Americans are NAZIs! Americans are torturing millions of people!
Americans "air raid villages" killing civilians! Killing civilians in cold blood!
YOU dumb shits that don't think the enemy LOVED to hear these idiots make these ANTI-AMERICAN statements:

Think about this dumb bastard...
AT FIRST he said this:
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003
THEN after Bush took Kerry at his word... DISARM Saddam... this butthead turns around and calls our troops terrorists!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

And this idiot calling our troops cold blooded killers! How helpful! U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D)"Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
And of course everyone KNOWS ALL of American troops are NAZIS Soviets... Killers!

And then Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

These comments inflamed the terrorists AND demoralized our troops at the same time!

And finally consider what the Majority of Iraqi people think about idiots like you and the above that DIDN"T WANT THEM to be free!!!

Idiots like you would be happy to see Saddam starving 100,000 kids a year but since his death (thanks to GWB) 1.2 million are NOT STARVED!!

But you idiots don't CARE!!!

"So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it"
The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg put the question to Barham Salih, the former prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan's regional government and a former deputy prime minister of Iraq's federal government.
"But," he added, "it's important to understand where we started from. ...
Literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were sent to mass graves.
Ten years on from the demise of Saddam Hussein, we're still discovering mass graves across Iraq.
And Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein --
the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein."
So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it; and the fault for all that has gone wrong is ultimately with Iraqis themselves: It's a remarkable point of view to encounter in June 2013.
10 Years After the Fall of Saddam How Do Iraqis Look Back on the War - The Atlantic

All the while idiots like you would prefer 28 million Iraqis fearful of having their tongues cut out, drill bits in their heads, mutilated like these people
and YOU would be happy right???

Ahmad was Uday's chief executioner. Last week, as Iraqis celebrated the death of his former boss and his equally savage younger brother Qusay, he nervously revealed a hideous story.
His instructions that day in 1999 were to arrest the two 19-year-olds on the campus of Baghdad's Academy of Fine Arts and deliver them at Radwaniyah. On arrival at the sprawling compound, he was directed to a farm where he found a large cage. Inside, two lions waited. They belonged to Uday. Guards took the two young men from the car and opened the cage door. One of the victims collapsed in terror as they were dragged, screaming and shouting, to meet their fate. Ahmad watched as the students frantically looked for a way of escape. There was none. The lions pounced. 'I saw the head of the first student literally come off his body with the first bite and then had to stand and watch the animals devour the two young men. By the time they were finished there was little left but for the bones and bits and pieces of unwanted flesh,' he recalled last week."
-- Sunday Times, London, July 27, 2003
NO THANKS to traitors like you these Saddam driven responses don't occur!

healthmyths who are you directing your reply to? I hope it's not me but if it was you're barking up the wrong tree. My comment was meant to be facetious and sarcastic.

 

[healthmyths]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

O.K. Who said it? Who implied it and who made the banner? Ignoramus. Please say Bush said it.

AND IT WAS YOU dumb F.,..K!!!
The military objectives of overthrowing Saddam was accomplished.
It wasn't till assholes like you that hated Bush like the MSM did that you GAVE all sorts of encouragement to kill our troops!
If you can't comprehend what it is like as a soldier to hear/read comments like these from your Fellow Americans and much less Congressmen!
Remarks that the Harvard study have shown Prolonged and made more deaths because the bad guys LOVED to use these words in recruiting
more terrorists!
I mean it obviously is easy for you to be in the enemy camp and read/hear these words that validated your recruiting/murdering more US troops!
Words like "Americans are killing civilians"! Americans are terrorists! Americans are NAZIs! Americans are torturing millions of people!
Americans "air raid villages" killing civilians! Killing civilians in cold blood!
YOU dumb shits that don't think the enemy LOVED to hear these idiots make these ANTI-AMERICAN statements:

Think about this dumb bastard...
AT FIRST he said this:
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003
THEN after Bush took Kerry at his word... DISARM Saddam... this butthead turns around and calls our troops terrorists!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

And this idiot calling our troops cold blooded killers! How helpful! U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D)"Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
And of course everyone KNOWS ALL of American troops are NAZIS Soviets... Killers!

And then Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

These comments inflamed the terrorists AND demoralized our troops at the same time!

And finally consider what the Majority of Iraqi people think about idiots like you and the above that DIDN"T WANT THEM to be free!!!

Idiots like you would be happy to see Saddam starving 100,000 kids a year but since his death (thanks to GWB) 1.2 million are NOT STARVED!!

But you idiots don't CARE!!!

"So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it"
The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg put the question to Barham Salih, the former prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan's regional government and a former deputy prime minister of Iraq's federal government.
"But," he added, "it's important to understand where we started from. ...
Literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were sent to mass graves.
Ten years on from the demise of Saddam Hussein, we're still discovering mass graves across Iraq.
And Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein --
the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein."
So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it; and the fault for all that has gone wrong is ultimately with Iraqis themselves: It's a remarkable point of view to encounter in June 2013.
10 Years After the Fall of Saddam How Do Iraqis Look Back on the War - The Atlantic

All the while idiots like you would prefer 28 million Iraqis fearful of having their tongues cut out, drill bits in their heads, mutilated like these people
and YOU would be happy right???

Ahmad was Uday's chief executioner. Last week, as Iraqis celebrated the death of his former boss and his equally savage younger brother Qusay, he nervously revealed a hideous story.
His instructions that day in 1999 were to arrest the two 19-year-olds on the campus of Baghdad's Academy of Fine Arts and deliver them at Radwaniyah. On arrival at the sprawling compound, he was directed to a farm where he found a large cage. Inside, two lions waited. They belonged to Uday. Guards took the two young men from the car and opened the cage door. One of the victims collapsed in terror as they were dragged, screaming and shouting, to meet their fate. Ahmad watched as the students frantically looked for a way of escape. There was none. The lions pounced. 'I saw the head of the first student literally come off his body with the first bite and then had to stand and watch the animals devour the two young men. By the time they were finished there was little left but for the bones and bits and pieces of unwanted flesh,' he recalled last week."
-- Sunday Times, London, July 27, 2003
NO THANKS to traitors like you these Saddam driven responses don't occur!

healthmyths who are you directing your reply to? I hope it's not me but if it was you're barking up the wrong tree. My comment was meant to be facetious and sarcastic.

I'm sorry. Your comment went over my head and I'm sorry.

 

[healthmyths]

Bush was the dude in charge. What he chose to do was a huge mistake. I don't care if every Democrat in congress begged him to invade Iraq. He did it. It was a mistake. He fucked up. Period.

Would you care to explain why the Iraq War was a mistake? Was it because Bush should have anticipated that an anti-American doofus would succeed him and abandon that country to Islamic terrorists? Please talk out of your other orifice for once.

Thank you as you are absolutely correct that the BIGGEST error Bush made was assuming the politicians/MSM would NOT be so ANTI-American and ready to encourage the terrorists.

 

[Mac1958]

.

"Please don't do this. Don't send our soldiers to die for a guess. Iraq did not attack us. You're going to make a lousy situation worse, and at what cost?"

A whole bunch of us

.

 

[natstew]

What about this statement?

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

Barack Obama October 2 2002

How did he know???? How did HE know MORE then the CIA/DOJ, M6, Interpol,etc... UN??? UN didn't know for sure Iraq wasn't a threat.
Besides Bush NEVER said Iraq was an IMMINENT THREAT and BUSH agreed with Obama!

Here is WHAT Bush said...
[Briefing Room The White House"] Briefing Room The White House

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.
Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?
If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late.
Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."

For some reason a freak'n community organizer was balls accurate on Iraq while asshole G W Bush pushed us into a war that killed 6000 Americans

No wonder he is president

You quoted Hussein Obama, now provide a link where I can hear his voice saying it in 2002 or retract your statement. You're already a nobody on this site, stop digging!

 

[natstew]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

That Aircraft Carrier did accomplish it's mission moron! That statement was referring to the Carrier's mission, which was very successful!

 

[JimH52]

What about this statement?

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

Barack Obama October 2 2002

How did he know???? How did HE know MORE then the CIA/DOJ, M6, Interpol,etc... UN??? UN didn't know for sure Iraq wasn't a threat.
Besides Bush NEVER said Iraq was an IMMINENT THREAT and BUSH agreed with Obama!

Here is WHAT Bush said...
[Briefing Room The White House"] Briefing Room The White House

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.
Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?
If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late.
Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."

Bush and DICK said he had WMD. They frightened congress and the American people with their cooked books. Even after UN Inspectors could find nothing, they still insisted that Saddam had WMD. Thousands of people died and suffered due to their cherry picking of the facts. Do we really need another Bush in the White House. Maybe when confronted with a deep problem, he might call his brother, the recovering alcoholic, for advise? Does that make feel a little sick? It should....

 

[JimH52]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

That Aircraft Carrier did accomplish it's mission moron! That statement was referring to the Carrier's mission, which was very successful!

Are you an idiot? Bush was telling the world that the Iraq war was finished.....MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! INDEED......MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

He knew what everyone understood that banner to mean. They put it there because the recovering alcoholic was coming to give his Victory Speech.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Bush was the dude in charge. What he chose to do was a huge mistake. I don't care if every Democrat in congress begged him to invade Iraq. He did it. It was a mistake. He fucked up. Period.

Would you care to explain why the Iraq War was a mistake? Was it because Bush should have anticipated that an anti-American doofus would succeed him and abandon that country to Islamic terrorists? Please talk out of your other orifice for once.

Why was the INVASION OF IRAQ a mistake? You actually don't know?

 

[NYcarbineer]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

O.K. Who said it? Who implied it and who made the banner? Ignoramus. Please say Bush said it.

AND IT WAS YOU dumb F.,..K!!!
The military objectives of overthrowing Saddam was accomplished.
It wasn't till assholes like you that hated Bush like the MSM did that you GAVE all sorts of encouragement to kill our troops!
If you can't comprehend what it is like as a soldier to hear/read comments like these from your Fellow Americans and much less Congressmen!
Remarks that the Harvard study have shown Prolonged and made more deaths because the bad guys LOVED to use these words in recruiting
more terrorists!
I mean it obviously is easy for you to be in the enemy camp and read/hear these words that validated your recruiting/murdering more US troops!
Words like "Americans are killing civilians"! Americans are terrorists! Americans are NAZIs! Americans are torturing millions of people!
Americans "air raid villages" killing civilians! Killing civilians in cold blood!
YOU dumb shits that don't think the enemy LOVED to hear these idiots make these ANTI-AMERICAN statements:

Think about this dumb bastard...
AT FIRST he said this:
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003
THEN after Bush took Kerry at his word... DISARM Saddam... this butthead turns around and calls our troops terrorists!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

And this idiot calling our troops cold blooded killers! How helpful! U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D)"Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
And of course everyone KNOWS ALL of American troops are NAZIS Soviets... Killers!

And then Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

These comments inflamed the terrorists AND demoralized our troops at the same time!

And finally consider what the Majority of Iraqi people think about idiots like you and the above that DIDN"T WANT THEM to be free!!!

Idiots like you would be happy to see Saddam starving 100,000 kids a year but since his death (thanks to GWB) 1.2 million are NOT STARVED!!

But you idiots don't CARE!!!

"So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it"
The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg put the question to Barham Salih, the former prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan's regional government and a former deputy prime minister of Iraq's federal government.
"But," he added, "it's important to understand where we started from. ...
Literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were sent to mass graves.
Ten years on from the demise of Saddam Hussein, we're still discovering mass graves across Iraq.
And Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein --
the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein."
So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it; and the fault for all that has gone wrong is ultimately with Iraqis themselves: It's a remarkable point of view to encounter in June 2013.
10 Years After the Fall of Saddam How Do Iraqis Look Back on the War - The Atlantic

All the while idiots like you would prefer 28 million Iraqis fearful of having their tongues cut out, drill bits in their heads, mutilated like these people
and YOU would be happy right???

Ahmad was Uday's chief executioner. Last week, as Iraqis celebrated the death of his former boss and his equally savage younger brother Qusay, he nervously revealed a hideous story.
His instructions that day in 1999 were to arrest the two 19-year-olds on the campus of Baghdad's Academy of Fine Arts and deliver them at Radwaniyah. On arrival at the sprawling compound, he was directed to a farm where he found a large cage. Inside, two lions waited. They belonged to Uday. Guards took the two young men from the car and opened the cage door. One of the victims collapsed in terror as they were dragged, screaming and shouting, to meet their fate. Ahmad watched as the students frantically looked for a way of escape. There was none. The lions pounced. 'I saw the head of the first student literally come off his body with the first bite and then had to stand and watch the animals devour the two young men. By the time they were finished there was little left but for the bones and bits and pieces of unwanted flesh,' he recalled last week."
-- Sunday Times, London, July 27, 2003
NO THANKS to traitors like you these Saddam driven responses don't occur!

We had no business being in Iraq from day one. And I mean day one in 1991.

 

[LoneLaugher]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

O.K. Who said it? Who implied it and who made the banner? Ignoramus. Please say Bush said it.

AND IT WAS YOU dumb F.,..K!!!
The military objectives of overthrowing Saddam was accomplished.
It wasn't till assholes like you that hated Bush like the MSM did that you GAVE all sorts of encouragement to kill our troops!
If you can't comprehend what it is like as a soldier to hear/read comments like these from your Fellow Americans and much less Congressmen!
Remarks that the Harvard study have shown Prolonged and made more deaths because the bad guys LOVED to use these words in recruiting
more terrorists!
I mean it obviously is easy for you to be in the enemy camp and read/hear these words that validated your recruiting/murdering more US troops!
Words like "Americans are killing civilians"! Americans are terrorists! Americans are NAZIs! Americans are torturing millions of people!
Americans "air raid villages" killing civilians! Killing civilians in cold blood!
YOU dumb shits that don't think the enemy LOVED to hear these idiots make these ANTI-AMERICAN statements:

Think about this dumb bastard...
AT FIRST he said this:
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003
THEN after Bush took Kerry at his word... DISARM Saddam... this butthead turns around and calls our troops terrorists!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

And this idiot calling our troops cold blooded killers! How helpful! U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D)"Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
And of course everyone KNOWS ALL of American troops are NAZIS Soviets... Killers!

And then Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

These comments inflamed the terrorists AND demoralized our troops at the same time!

And finally consider what the Majority of Iraqi people think about idiots like you and the above that DIDN"T WANT THEM to be free!!!

Idiots like you would be happy to see Saddam starving 100,000 kids a year but since his death (thanks to GWB) 1.2 million are NOT STARVED!!

But you idiots don't CARE!!!

"So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it"
The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg put the question to Barham Salih, the former prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan's regional government and a former deputy prime minister of Iraq's federal government.
"But," he added, "it's important to understand where we started from. ...
Literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were sent to mass graves.
Ten years on from the demise of Saddam Hussein, we're still discovering mass graves across Iraq.
And Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein --
the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein."
So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it; and the fault for all that has gone wrong is ultimately with Iraqis themselves: It's a remarkable point of view to encounter in June 2013.
10 Years After the Fall of Saddam How Do Iraqis Look Back on the War - The Atlantic

All the while idiots like you would prefer 28 million Iraqis fearful of having their tongues cut out, drill bits in their heads, mutilated like these people
and YOU would be happy right???

Ahmad was Uday's chief executioner. Last week, as Iraqis celebrated the death of his former boss and his equally savage younger brother Qusay, he nervously revealed a hideous story.
His instructions that day in 1999 were to arrest the two 19-year-olds on the campus of Baghdad's Academy of Fine Arts and deliver them at Radwaniyah. On arrival at the sprawling compound, he was directed to a farm where he found a large cage. Inside, two lions waited. They belonged to Uday. Guards took the two young men from the car and opened the cage door. One of the victims collapsed in terror as they were dragged, screaming and shouting, to meet their fate. Ahmad watched as the students frantically looked for a way of escape. There was none. The lions pounced. 'I saw the head of the first student literally come off his body with the first bite and then had to stand and watch the animals devour the two young men. By the time they were finished there was little left but for the bones and bits and pieces of unwanted flesh,' he recalled last week."
-- Sunday Times, London, July 27, 2003
NO THANKS to traitors like you these Saddam driven responses don't occur!

healthmyths who are you directing your reply to? I hope it's not me but if it was you're barking up the wrong tree. My comment was meant to be facetious and sarcastic.

Oh no! We wouldn't want that!

 

[LoneLaugher]

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

How about this one?

Mission Accomplished

O.K. Who said it? Who implied it and who made the banner? Ignoramus. Please say Bush said it.

AND IT WAS YOU dumb F.,..K!!!
The military objectives of overthrowing Saddam was accomplished.
It wasn't till assholes like you that hated Bush like the MSM did that you GAVE all sorts of encouragement to kill our troops!
If you can't comprehend what it is like as a soldier to hear/read comments like these from your Fellow Americans and much less Congressmen!
Remarks that the Harvard study have shown Prolonged and made more deaths because the bad guys LOVED to use these words in recruiting
more terrorists!
I mean it obviously is easy for you to be in the enemy camp and read/hear these words that validated your recruiting/murdering more US troops!
Words like "Americans are killing civilians"! Americans are terrorists! Americans are NAZIs! Americans are torturing millions of people!
Americans "air raid villages" killing civilians! Killing civilians in cold blood!
YOU dumb shits that don't think the enemy LOVED to hear these idiots make these ANTI-AMERICAN statements:

Think about this dumb bastard...
AT FIRST he said this:
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003
THEN after Bush took Kerry at his word... DISARM Saddam... this butthead turns around and calls our troops terrorists!

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

And this idiot calling our troops cold blooded killers! How helpful! U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D)"Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
And of course everyone KNOWS ALL of American troops are NAZIS Soviets... Killers!

And then Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

These comments inflamed the terrorists AND demoralized our troops at the same time!

And finally consider what the Majority of Iraqi people think about idiots like you and the above that DIDN"T WANT THEM to be free!!!

Idiots like you would be happy to see Saddam starving 100,000 kids a year but since his death (thanks to GWB) 1.2 million are NOT STARVED!!

But you idiots don't CARE!!!

"So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it"
The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg put the question to Barham Salih, the former prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan's regional government and a former deputy prime minister of Iraq's federal government.
"But," he added, "it's important to understand where we started from. ...
Literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were sent to mass graves.
Ten years on from the demise of Saddam Hussein, we're still discovering mass graves across Iraq.
And Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein --
the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are better off without Saddam Hussein."
So the Iraq war was, despite all that went wrong, a good thing; the "overwhelming majority" of Iraqis are (and presumably feel) better off because of it; and the fault for all that has gone wrong is ultimately with Iraqis themselves: It's a remarkable point of view to encounter in June 2013.
10 Years After the Fall of Saddam How Do Iraqis Look Back on the War - The Atlantic

All the while idiots like you would prefer 28 million Iraqis fearful of having their tongues cut out, drill bits in their heads, mutilated like these people
and YOU would be happy right???

Ahmad was Uday's chief executioner. Last week, as Iraqis celebrated the death of his former boss and his equally savage younger brother Qusay, he nervously revealed a hideous story.
His instructions that day in 1999 were to arrest the two 19-year-olds on the campus of Baghdad's Academy of Fine Arts and deliver them at Radwaniyah. On arrival at the sprawling compound, he was directed to a farm where he found a large cage. Inside, two lions waited. They belonged to Uday. Guards took the two young men from the car and opened the cage door. One of the victims collapsed in terror as they were dragged, screaming and shouting, to meet their fate. Ahmad watched as the students frantically looked for a way of escape. There was none. The lions pounced. 'I saw the head of the first student literally come off his body with the first bite and then had to stand and watch the animals devour the two young men. By the time they were finished there was little left but for the bones and bits and pieces of unwanted flesh,' he recalled last week."
-- Sunday Times, London, July 27, 2003
NO THANKS to traitors like you these Saddam driven responses don't occur!

healthmyths who are you directing your reply to? I hope it's not me but if it was you're barking up the wrong tree. My comment was meant to be facetious and sarcastic.

I'm sorry. Your comment went over my head and I'm sorry.

Oh yes!! I'm so sorry. I never meant to insult a fellow conservative! My humblest apologies! LOL!

 

[TooTall]

Great thread. Lots of Democratic POLITICIANS caved into a feverish call for military action on the part of a very loud and very frightened electorate. Those chicken shit POLITICIANS listened to what Americans....who had been frightened by FOX NEWS and the BUSH ADMIN told them was needed.

I cheered when George stood on that pile of debris and promised justice. I was with that asshole 100%. He fucked up. Period.

They also listened to what the US and allied Intel agencies said, and when the UN agreed Iraq was in material breach of the cease fire, it was a done deal. It's not like Bush didn't give Saddam ample opportunity to come clean, because he did.