Worst Case Scenario for House RINOs

Seymour Flops

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In my opinion, it would be anything along the lines suggested by this Democratic opinion writer:


We are stuck with the current Congress until January 2025. Unless something is done, that means more chaos and dysfunction — and that’s on the good days. More often, it will mean complete paralysis.

The alternative is a new coalition. And, for better or worse, that means involving Democrats. Of course, Democrats are Democrats and it will be hard-going for them to form a partnership with Republicans — even those in the Republican Governance Group. Nonetheless, they all have a shared interest in the basics of governing, which we saw on Saturday when more Democrats than Republicans voted for McCarthy’s shutdown-avoiding continuing resolution.


A serious proposal of the Radical wing of the Democratic Caucus (which as far as I know is all congressional Democrats) to form such an alliance would be the political nail in the coffin of the Republican RINOs. The only thing that would prevent that would be for all RINOs to stand firm against Democrats. For reasons too obvious to go into here, that is not going to happen.

One or more of them would be perfectly willing to sell his soul to be speaker elected by such a coalition. With more Democratic votes than Republican votes, he would be in bondage to the Democrats, in particular Hakeem Jeffries, whose office would leak as often as possible, stories of him bringing the Speaker to heel.

CNN, MSNBC, and the alphabet licensed network would gleefully air stories of Jeffries and the RINO acting as de facto co-Speakers, with Jeffries always in the favorable light. A humiliating experience for the RINO, because the positive coverage he would receive would be so condescending and transparently left-handed.

That puppet speaker would be primaried into oblivion in 2024. Every Republican who voted for such a coalition would have a primary challenger, or maybe several. With or without MAGA support, those challengers would stand a very strong chance of running the RINOs out. That would leave the next congress with either a Democratic majority, the challengers having not won enough of the general elections, or a congress with a majority consisting of many more genuine Republicans than at present..

That being said, why wouldn't the RINOs simply resist Democratic overtures to form such a partnership? Man, they can't help themselves. Going along to get along with Democrats is in their nature, like the Scorpion who kills the frog.
 
'genuine Republican' as those opposing MAGA who are cuckoos in the next.
By "genuine Republicans," I mean Republicans who run on positions like cutting spending, and then actually insist on cutting spending when the GOP is in the majority in the House of Representatives where spending bills originate. What good is a Republican who runs on cutting spending and then votes to continue the Pelosi bloated budget?
 
By "genuine Republicans," I mean Republicans who run on positions like cutting spending, and then actually insist on cutting spending when the GOP is in the majority in the House of Representatives where spending bills originate. What good is a Republican who runs on cutting spending and then votes to continue the Pelosi bloated budget?

How about Republicans who run on positions like cutting spending and then actually insist on cutting spending when the GOP is in the majority in the House of Representatives, the Senate and control the White House....


oh wait, those do not exist.
 
How about Republicans who run on positions like cutting spending and then actually insist on cutting spending when the GOP is in the majority in the House of Representatives, the Senate and control the White House....


oh wait, those do not exist.
Unlike yourself, I am not impressed by one letter in parentheses after a person's name.

With so many of those "Republicans" being actually RINOs, we need a majority of budget cutters, not just a majority of "Republicans."

Which, as I said above, this congress's batch of RINOs may actually help bring about.
 
Unlike yourself, I am not impressed by one letter in parentheses after a person's name.

Yet, you are the one that brought them up.

Werid.


With so many of those "Republicans" being actually RINOs, we need a majority of budget cutters, not just a majority of "Republicans."

Which, as I said above, this congress's batch of RINOs may actually help bring about.

You are a dreamer. The reason there will never be a majority of budget cutters is because the majority of the voters do not want such a thing.
 
Yet, you are the one that brought them up.

Werid.
It's werid to bring up Republicans on a political forum?
You are a dreamer. The reason there will never be a majority of budget cutters is because the majority of the voters do not want such a thing.
Then we will get what we deserve, just like the Palestinians are right now.
 
In my opinion, it would be anything along the lines suggested by this Democratic opinion writer:


We are stuck with the current Congress until January 2025. Unless something is done, that means more chaos and dysfunction — and that’s on the good days. More often, it will mean complete paralysis.

The alternative is a new coalition. And, for better or worse, that means involving Democrats. Of course, Democrats are Democrats and it will be hard-going for them to form a partnership with Republicans — even those in the Republican Governance Group. Nonetheless, they all have a shared interest in the basics of governing, which we saw on Saturday when more Democrats than Republicans voted for McCarthy’s shutdown-avoiding continuing resolution.


A serious proposal of the Radical wing of the Democratic Caucus (which as far as I know is all congressional Democrats) to form such an alliance would be the political nail in the coffin of the Republican RINOs. The only thing that would prevent that would be for all RINOs to stand firm against Democrats. For reasons too obvious to go into here, that is not going to happen.

One or more of them would be perfectly willing to sell his soul to be speaker elected by such a coalition. With more Democratic votes than Republican votes, he would be in bondage to the Democrats, in particular Hakeem Jeffries, whose office would leak as often as possible, stories of him bringing the Speaker to heel.

CNN, MSNBC, and the alphabet licensed network would gleefully air stories of Jeffries and the RINO acting as de facto co-Speakers, with Jeffries always in the favorable light. A humiliating experience for the RINO, because the positive coverage he would receive would be so condescending and transparently left-handed.

That puppet speaker would be primaried into oblivion in 2024. Every Republican who voted for such a coalition would have a primary challenger, or maybe several. With or without MAGA support, those challengers would stand a very strong chance of running the RINOs out. That would leave the next congress with either a Democratic majority, the challengers having not won enough of the general elections, or a congress with a majority consisting of many more genuine Republicans than at present..

That being said, why wouldn't the RINOs simply resist Democratic overtures to form such a partnership? Man, they can't help themselves. Going along to get along with Democrats is in their nature, like the Scorpion who kills the frog.

Let’s be realistic. It might be the first time you’ve dealt with reality. But let’s try it on for a change.

Democrats control the Senate. But they need Republicans to help reach cloture. So bills from the Senate are by their very nature, bi partisan. They have to be.

Compromise and various coalitions is how we have gotten where we are as a nation. Republicans made up key spots in FDR’s administration. The Secretary of the Navy was a Republican during World War II. That is but one example.

If you insist on a radical agenda, you will not get it through the Senate. You won’t get it past the White House. You won’t get it anywhere. Well you will get it in the ass when you lose more elections and give the Democrats the House.

The problem is you think everyone who voted Republican is as Radical as the extreme Right. They aren’t. And that has been demonstrated time and again.
 
The majority of Republicans are not fond of MAGA to say the least.

Now is the time to work with the Dems. They have the Senate and the Presidency, the GOP 1/2 of a 1/3, the House.
 
Well, whomever takes the gavel for the GOP is going to compromise and that won’t fly with the MAGA folks. If it’s Jordan who is holding the gavel, its not going to end well for him.
 
Once the government is shut down for a while, the federal Dollars stop flowing, and supporters of both Ukraine and Israel are screaming for funds, the Traditional Republicans are going to have to take a stance. They know that the Freedom caucus and the other Maga idiots will be a total disaster. They'll see the wisdom in a coalition government.

Their local constituents & supporters will be hurting for those federal dollars and drop any idea of primarying them.

Another nail in the coffin of the MAGA cult!
 
The majority of Republicans are not fond of MAGA to say the least.
How can you make that claim with a straight face, with Trump polling in the majority among Republican voters and all but one of the other candidates stuck in single digits?
Now is the time to work with the Dems. They have the Senate and the Presidency, the GOP 1/2 of a 1/3, the House.
Congress is not two homogenous masses of parties. Each congressman is elected by the people of his or her district. If his or her voters ask that they work with Democrats to pass a budget that surpasses even the insanity of the Pelose COVID-era budget, they are welcome to do that.

If they decide to go to work for Hakeem Jeffries, well they are entitled to do that also. The voters in their district - overwhelmingly MAGA - can decide if they want to give them another two years to help the Dems keep spending.
 
I don't support either Democrats or Republicans. Both parties put their interests ahead of citizens.
 
How about Republicans who run on positions like cutting spending and then actually insist on cutting spending when the GOP is in the majority in the House of Representatives, the Senate and control the White House....


oh wait, those do not exist.
This speaker shit says that there are that kind of Republican. Just not enough of them.
 
By "genuine Republicans," I mean Republicans who run on positions like cutting spending, and then actually insist on cutting spending when the GOP is in the majority in the House of Representatives where spending bills originate. What good is a Republican who runs on cutting spending and then votes to continue the Pelosi bloated budget?
Let us know when you find these “genuine Republicans “.
 
Let us know when you find these “genuine Republicans “.
Not hard to find. They are the ones that opposed the Pelosi CR, and kicked Kevin McCarthy roughly to the curb when he pushed it through with his Democrat friends.
 

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