Working class favor GOP by 58%

[JakeStarkey]

Which statement? That the EPA continues to make it prohibitve for America to reinvigorate its manufacturing base, or that Democrats want to give the EPA unlimited power?

Where are hybrid batteries made? Solar panels?

Just the word "Most" replaced with "Some" would make it technically true. But it's so far from the root of our problem, that you can't even see the real problem when you're standing at the EPA issue.

But the criticism stems from a belief that the EPA does not have a legitimate cause. If you don't believe there's any concern for conservation or pollution control, then you'd be right to criticize the EPA. I feel the potential consequence of ignoring these problems warrants such an agency, along with the (IMO, the slight) economic discomfort that comes with it.

Whatever its orginal intent, the effect of the current EPA is to crush the American industrial base and drive the cost of energy up to impose poverty.

That's not slight discomfort.

Ah, if you mean that the oil companies are raping American citizens and the American government for big, obscene profits, you are right.

 

[Revere]

Just the word "Most" replaced with "Some" would make it technically true. But it's so far from the root of our problem, that you can't even see the real problem when you're standing at the EPA issue.

But the criticism stems from a belief that the EPA does not have a legitimate cause. If you don't believe there's any concern for conservation or pollution control, then you'd be right to criticize the EPA. I feel the potential consequence of ignoring these problems warrants such an agency, along with the (IMO, the slight) economic discomfort that comes with it.

Whatever its orginal intent, the effect of the current EPA is to crush the American industrial base and drive the cost of energy up to impose poverty.

That's not slight discomfort.

Ah, if you mean that the oil companies are raping American citizens and the American government for big, obscene profits, you are right.

Are profits bad?

 

[Revere]

What is the profit margin of oil exploration/refinement?

 

[AllieBaba]

Yes, the US is a nation of classes. Anybody is entitled to their own unreality like CaliGirl, but no one has to accept her delusions. Go ask Washington if Peter his man servant was his equal, was in the same class. Sheesh.

Sure we have classes. And anytime a person wants to take a chance, they can move out of their class into a higher class.

The liberals don't want that movement to take place. They think that everyone should stay..right...where...they...are...born.

And since liberals are essentially our landed gentry, that makes perfect sense.

Thank goodness they're a minority. When shitheads at the top start to think they're just innately better, heads roll and everyone starts over. It's happened in America, France, Russia, and China. It will happen again, I'm sure.

 

[Revere]

I can't wait forever.

The average net profit margin for the S&P Energy sector, according to figures from Thomson Baseline, is 9.7%. The average for the S&P 500 is 8.5%. So yes, energy companies are more profitable than many others...but not by an inordinate amount.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The permanent dependency caste? Yes, poverty is rising from failed so-called conservative policies to unregulate governance of Big Business. That coupled with American greed has led to a most unfortunate system. Blame Obama all you want, but what the GOP offers is more of the ol same. Get a quick a taste of that and the GOP will be out of office again.

The only salvation will be economic recovery, and that is going to take time because the failed policies of the government and the American peoples' greed. Nothing comes for free.

 

[JakeStarkey]

GTF, all you have offered is platitudes. Give some hard points and evidence. We can go from there.

 

[Revere]

The permanent dependency caste? Yes, poverty is rising from failed so-called conservative policies to unregulate governance of Big Business. That coupled with American greed has led to a most unfortunate system. Blame Obama all you want, but what the GOP offers is more of the ol same. Get a quick a taste of that and the GOP will be out of office again.

The only salvation will be economic recovery, and that is going to take time because the failed policies of the government and the American peoples' greed. Nothing comes for free.

Self interest, not government, best serves a free society. It made the best soceity on earth for at least its first 200 years.

Is demanding banks make loans to uncreditworthy customers and then securitizing them because government guarantees them "unreguated governance?'

Would you make or buy a crap mortgage unless government guaranteed it?

 

[Revere]

GTF, all you have offered is platitudes. Give some hard points and evidence. We can go from there.

I posted the profit margin of S&P oil companies, relative to the S&P overall.

 

[Revere]

And it's GTFO.

 

[boedicca]

The permanent dependency caste? Yes, poverty is rising from failed so-called conservative policies to unregulate governance of Big Business. That coupled with American greed has led to a most unfortunate system. Blame Obama all you want, but what the GOP offers is more of the ol same. Get a quick a taste of that and the GOP will be out of office again.

The only salvation will be economic recovery, and that is going to take time because the failed policies of the government and the American peoples' greed. Nothing comes for free.

Self interest, not government, best serves a free society. It made the best soceity on earth for at least its first 200 years.

Is demanding banks make loans to uncreditworthy customers and then securitizing them because government guarantees them "unreguated governance?'

Would you make or buy a crap mortgage unless government guaranteed it?

We're still recovering from the financial meltdown caused by the subprime mortgage mess, and now the government is pushing loans to uncreditworthy small businesses.

Get ready for Subprime Part Deux.

 

[Revere]

The permanent dependency caste? Yes, poverty is rising from failed so-called conservative policies to unregulate governance of Big Business. That coupled with American greed has led to a most unfortunate system. Blame Obama all you want, but what the GOP offers is more of the ol same. Get a quick a taste of that and the GOP will be out of office again.

The only salvation will be economic recovery, and that is going to take time because the failed policies of the government and the American peoples' greed. Nothing comes for free.

Self interest, not government, best serves a free society. It made the best soceity on earth for at least its first 200 years.

Is demanding banks make loans to uncreditworthy customers and then securitizing them because government guarantees them "unreguated governance?'

Would you make or buy a crap mortgage unless government guaranteed it?

We're still recovering from the financial meltdown caused by the subprime mortgage mess, and now the government is pushing loans to uncreditworthy small businesses.

Get ready for Subprime Part Deux.

And government giving away worthless health insurance to people who can't afford it.

Part Trois.

 

[boedicca]

And next we'll see QE3 - and a cycle of significant inflation in order to devalue to massive pile-o-government debt.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not one of you have even scratched a case for making far less regulation or an economic libertarian economy feasible or desirable.

So continue to chatter under the sheet and continue to amuse us.

 

[Revere]

Not one of you have even scratched a case for making far less regulation or an economic libertarian economy feasible or desirable.

So continue to chatter under the sheet and continue to amuse us.

You're the only one setting the false bar at libertarianism.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nah, I am not, because you have not set any bar: go for it, but you won't.

 

[Revere]

If Republicans succeed in defunding Obamacare and killing any EPA energy policy or tax increases, that will go a long way to reinvigorating growth.

 

[Oddball]

Not one of you have even scratched a case for making far less regulation or an economic libertarian economy feasible or desirable.

That we can't "scratch a case" for a far left poseur nutbar like you pleases me to no end.

It's not like you have any criteria for acceptance of any originalist principles anyways.

 

[loosecannon]

Not one of you have even scratched a case for making far less regulation or an economic libertarian economy feasible or desirable.

That we can't "scratch a case" for a far left poseur nutbar like you pleases me to no end.

It's not like you have any criteria for acceptance of any originalist principles anyways.

I'll just cut you some slack and ask politely wtf you are doing in this dungeon of intellectual dishonesty and petroglyphic reasoning.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If Republicans succeed in defunding Obamacare and killing any EPA energy policy or tax increases, that will go a long way to reinvigorating growth.

One, that won't happen, and, two, if it did, no it would not.