With the government officially shut down, let’s be clear about one thing:

[Blisterfinger]

Most Americans disapprove of Trump overall, and in regard to the economy, inflation, crime, Ukraine/Russia, Gaza/Israel, but you'll be reassured to know the sky is still staying up.

President Trump Job Approval - Foreign Policy | RealClearPolling

President Trump Job Approval - Foreign Policy | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

Some former boosters are registering disgust, as well:

Podcast host Joe Rogan last week bemoaned the state of Trump’s increasingly brutal and militarized mass deportation campaign.

“I did not ever anticipate seeing that on TV on a regular basis,” Rogan said, referring to images of Trump “ripping parents out of their communities.”

MSN

It won't be easy to recover the nation's integrity, dignity, and respect, but we'll manage it eventually.

Trump sure is kicking Democrats ass in approval rating.

The biggest approval rating of all happened November 5th 326>212 when the American people gave Trump a mandate to fix the incredible indecency and malfeasance of the Biden Administration, which you were on board for. How shameful.
Biden left us all a hell of a mess to clean up and it's going to be a bit Rocky doing it.

 

[Nostra]

The Murder Cult pushes to starve military families.

 

[leftwinger]

Its just sad in America and does not seem to be getting any better. Black kids taught to attack Police in diapers.

 

[leftwinger]

Going without insurance is cheaper in most cases. Especially if you aren't really sick or in an accident.

Everyone basically goes without real dental insurance, paying cash. Not asking me to buy it for them. Pay cash. Get reduced charges. Less paperwork for them.

 

[Concerned American]

You lie

It takes 60 votes in the senate and there are only 53 repubs

In their defense, two democrats did vote responsibly, making up for the ONE republican who didn't. Bottom line is minority democrats are obstructing the responsible operation of the nation while negotiations COULD continue. The same childish tactic that they used to obstruct national progress during Trump's first term.

 

[leftwinger]

99% don't need Doctors or health insurance. You don't need Proesac or BP pills. Go to work. Go outside like its 1948 working on the farm. Sweat it out.

You're not depressed, you're eating Doritos watching Oprah when you should be working you bag of human garbage. Paint the house, walk the kids to school. Do the dishes or go to work.

Just SHUP. No. I dont want to fund you life or your problems.

 

[leftwinger]

Insurance and Healthcare should be for the truly disabled kids or Adults. Not those hypocondriacts who want attention from some Doctor milking the system.

 

[leftwinger]

Who gets rich from insurance? The Insurance companies for 1.

2-cars. One driver. $1000/yr forever per car to get towing ÷ windshield. I can only drive one at a time? That's the game. $10,000 per car over 10 years. Never even looked at the INS card.

 

[kyzr]

Watch what you ask for...
..... ..... You just might get it...
..... ..... ..... ..... The pendulum swings...
..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... You won't like that option when the DEMs are back in the majority...
..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... And have no delusions, they will be back in the majority at some point. WW

True. I'm fine with simple majorities for "temporary" Bills, like confirmations, CRs, appropriations.
I'm not sure is supreme court justices need 51 or 60?
Elections have consequences. After Biden's 75% wrong track Trump and Republicans won big.
But for important long term Bills I still like 60.

 

[kyzr]

I'm against obamacare period. it is, was and always was meant to be a boondoggle. Nothing more than a trillion dollar benefit to health interact providers with part of that money coming back to the congressfolk, who voted for it.
Why would I want to borrow money to pay for that? Why should my grandchildren and great-grandchildren be saddled with such an incredible debt, so that congressfolk can keep getting reelected?

The choice is ACA or millions lose healthcare and flood onto Medicaid.

The part where you support your claim by explaining why "he can't" do that. He is physically capable of picking up the phone and calling Treasury secretary Bessent and telling him to free up money from the IRS's revenues, or from Savings Bonds to fund whatever agencies or programs he chooses it.

Laws prevent that from happening.

But then it has not "passed" as you claimed. democrats in the senate have announced they will not allow. I need partial funding of the government. They literally said they don't want the party to lose leverage. Get it? The party. Not the voters, not the taxpayers, not the people who need health insurance. No, those people don't count. As in 1984, The Party is everything.

I told you the process. The House and Senate pass versions, go to conference to make one final version, both houses pass it, Trump signs it.

Terrible idea. that is exactly what the democrats are hoping for. Then they can cry and moan, and their media will help them to cry and moan, about how horribly unfair the Republicans are. Nope. The democrats follow Schumer in diving into the pool. Now they have to figure out how to get some water in it before they crack their skulls on the bottom.

After the appropriations bills pass the media loses interest. The shutdown can be used to sway voters.
Get on with governing, or watch democrats govern in 2026 after the mid-terms.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The choice is ACA or millions lose healthcare and flood onto Medicaid.

Those are not the choices. The choices are to allow the temporary covid supplemental subsidies to expire as they were intended to by the Democrats and "not Democrats" who passed them or to - for some bizarre reason - make them permanent.

The choices are to allow people to continue to be on Medicaid, even if they refuse to work or to do a minimal number of hours of community service or to keep the very reasonable restrictions and requirements that have already passed.

The choices are to give half a trillion dollars to the corporation for public broadcasting or to not give a half a trillion dollars to the corporation for public broadcasting.

There is a lot of in between in those choices, but that cannot be negotiated while the government is shut down and the american people are being held hostage by the democrats and "not democrats."

Laws prevent that from happening.e

No, they do not. If you believe they do, tell me which laws you're talking about.

I told you the process. The House and Senate pass versions, go to conference to make one final version, both houses pass it, Trump signs it.

Yes, and as soon as the government is reopened, the House will be able to come back into session and the Senate Democrats and "not Democrats" will not be so recalcitrant.

After the appropriations bills pass the media loses interest. The shutdown can be used to sway voters.
Get on with governing, or watch democrats govern in 2026 after the mid-terms.

An extremely unlikely scenario.

Polls show that the popularity of Donald Trump is higher than Republicans in congress, and the popularity of Republicans in congress is higher than that of Democrats in congress.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Yeah, Trump wants to 'gut' healthcare for illegal alien criminals. What's wrong with that?

Illegal immigrants can't get free healthcare or any ACA subsidies. So, that's stupid magaturd logic right out of the gate.

 

[Concerned American]

Those are not the choices. The choices are to allow the temporary covid supplemental subsidies to expire as they were intended to by the Democrats and "not Democrats" who passed them or to - for some bizarre reason - make them permanent.

The choices are to allow people to continue to be on Medicaid, even if they refuse to work or to do a minimal number of hours of community service or to keep the very reasonable restrictions and requirements that have already passed.

The choices are to give half a trillion dollars to the corporation for public broadcasting or to not give a half a trillion dollars to the corporation for public broadcasting.

There is a lot of in between in those choices, but that cannot be negotiated while the government is shut down and the american people are being held hostage by the democrats and "not democrats."



No, they do not. If you believe they do, tell me which laws you're talking about.

Yes, and as soon as the government is reopened, the House will be able to come back into session and the Senate Democrats and "not Democrats" will not be so recalcitrant.

An extremely unlikely scenario.

Polls show that the popularity of Donald Trump is higher than Republicans in congress, and the popularity of Republicans in congress is higher than that of Democrats in congress.

The whole argument about healthcare is pure BS. The CR is to fund the gov't at current levels while negotiations on a lasting bill continue. NOTHING else changes. Why is anyone even allowing this distraction from the fact stand.

 

[kyzr]

Those are not the choices. The choices are to allow the temporary covid supplemental subsidies to expire as they were intended to by the Democrats and "not Democrats" who passed them or to - for some bizarre reason make them permanent.

Not for "some reason", because the monthly premium for a family of 4 would go from $900 to $1,600. If Republicans won't extend the subsidy, democrats will. The subsidy can be used to beat down other democrat wish list items.

The choices are to allow people to continue to be on Medicaid, even if they refuse to work or to do a minimal number of hours of community service or to keep the very reasonable restrictions and requirements that have already passed.

No one is requesting eliminating the work requirement. No worries.

The choices are to give half a trillion dollars to the corporation for public broadcasting or to not give a half a trillion dollars to the corporation for public broadcasting.

PBS "only" costs $500 million a year. I agree to cut it. We need to focus on the subsidy, not the other stuff that's gone.

There is a lot of in between in those choices, but that cannot be negotiated while the government is shut down and the American people are being held hostage by the democrats and "not democrats."

True. Democrats won't negotiate, they DEMAND. That's why Thune needs to go nuclear and change the rule.

No, they do not. If you believe they do, tell me which laws you're talking about.

Yes, and as soon as the government is reopened, the House will be able to come back into session and the Senate Democrats and "not Democrats" will not be so recalcitrant.

No appropriations bill will pass, and Thune will need to go nuclear again.

An extremely unlikely scenario.
Polls show that the popularity of Donald Trump is higher than Republicans in congress, and the popularity of Republicans in congress is higher than that of Democrats in congress.

True, but if Republicans don't extend the subsidy, or say 75% of the subsidy, they will be castigated. If we can keep the $1.5T in cuts to everything else, I'm fine keeping the $130b subsidy, but it needs to be means tested.

 

[westwall]

Illegal immigrants can't get free healthcare or any ACA subsidies. So, that's stupid magaturd logic right out of the gate.

Liar

 

[Nostra]

Illegal immigrants can't get free healthcare or any ACA subsidies. So, that's stupid magaturd logic right out of the gate.

Not now that Trump took over and we kicked your Vegetable Messiah to the curb.

That's why lil Chucky shut down the government and is holding America hostage......................healthcare for illegals.

 

[leftwinger]

Trump: I think right now, the Democrats are really damaged, mentally damaged. They want to take 1.5 trillion, with a T, trillion dollars and give it to people that invaded our country. They came into our country illegally, from prisons, from mental institutions, gang members.

They want to give them health care and take it away from our citizens. We’re not going to do that. $1.5 trillion. They want to destroy, they want to destroy our health care system. We’re not going to let that happen.

WATCH: Trump Calls Democrats "Mentally Damaged" - "They Want to take $1.5 trillion and Give it to People That Invaded Our Country" | The Gateway Pundit | by Jordan Conradson

President Trump on Friday told reporters that the Democratic party is damaged mentally, pointing to their agenda that seeks to make Americans care for illegal aliens that invaded our country over the last four years. Lindell TV correspondent Cara Castronuova asked the President if he believes...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Liar

Prove it, **** stain.

 

[Concerned American]

Prove it, **** stain.

You lied, you prove it.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Not now that Trump took over and we kicked your Vegetable Messiah to the curb.

That's why lil Chucky shut down the government and is holding America hostage......................healthcare for illegals.

That's just bullshit rhetoric fed to magaturds by their chosen propaganda outlets for which they gladly slurp down unquestionably 24/7. Unproven slop.