With only around 500 billionaires in the country

[danielpalos]

Merely because they own ninety percent of the wealth.

Apparently not since you think you're entitled to a share of it.

Dear, what do believe the social Power to Tax is for; but to find ways and means to appropriate the People's share, and not just the share of the truest Capitalists.

Taxation is theft.

There's no two ways about it.

No one is entitled to a share of what I earn. That includes the government.

That is ridiculous. It is not theft. In return we get infrastructure and military. Without those your billionaires would not be billionaires.

Theft: taking the belongings of another person without their permission.

How doesn't taxation meet that definition?

No. Only lousy socialists and the right don't seem to understand the concept of delegation of powers.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what does that have to do with anything?

Any fiscal policy is affected more by the one percent that own ninety percent of the wealth. I thought it was self-evident under Any form of capitalism.

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

 

[danielpalos]

Any fiscal policy is affected more by the one percent that own ninety percent of the wealth. I thought it was self-evident under Any form of capitalism.

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

Only the right is disingenuous enough to appeal to ignorance regarding capital and its influence under any form of capitalism.

And, the right's class warfare is showing whenever they complain about the least wealthy not having to lobby Congress for a tax loophole large enough to drive a yacht through.

 

[Indeependent]

Any fiscal policy is affected more by the one percent that own ninety percent of the wealth. I thought it was self-evident under Any form of capitalism.

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

Wow! You're just chock full of Hannity bites aren't you?
Try paying taxes when you're bringing home 15K/year.
How about that comment of yours that money is unlimited?
Didn't work out too well for pre-WWII Germany, did it?

 

[Brain357]

That is ridiculous. It is not theft. In return we get infrastructure and military. Without those your billionaires would not be billionaires.

Theft: taking the belongings of another person without their permission.

How doesn't taxation meet that definition?

If you chose to live here and use the infrastructure and are defended by the military you are giving permission. Nobody is forced to live here. Your claim is moronic.

I didn't choose to live here. I was born here. That doesn't constitute agreement to anything. Just ask a lawyer.

Government doesn't own the United States, so why is it entitled to charge a fee just for your presence here? When someone who isn't part of the government does that we call it "extortion."

Government is indistinguishable from an organized criminal gang.

You are free to go any time. You seem to be pro freeloaders. So they should get all the benefits, but pay nothing for them?

You leave, asshole.

I despise freeloaders. Taxation is where they get their swag. The freeloaders are all sucking on the government tit. You obviously support that.

Where did I say anything about getting these so-called "benefits?"

You are the freeloader who thinks you should collect all the benefits and pay no taxes. If you don't like the taxes move, nobody making you live here.

 

[Brain357]

Merely because they own ninety percent of the wealth.

Apparently not since you think you're entitled to a share of it.

Dear, what do believe the social Power to Tax is for; but to find ways and means to appropriate the People's share, and not just the share of the truest Capitalists.

Taxation is theft.

There's no two ways about it.

No one is entitled to a share of what I earn. That includes the government.

That is ridiculous. It is not theft. In return we get infrastructure and military. Without those your billionaires would not be billionaires.

We also get Cash for Clunkers, bank bailouts, government air conditioners, Planned Parenthood, midnight basketball, Obama Care, NPR funding, PBS funding, and even money to fund overseas projects that don't benefit the US.

Theft is the action of taking property from somebody against their will.

Move if you don't like it. Without the things government does we would be a shithole country. Without the military we would have been taken. Without roads our economy couldn't function. This taxes is stealing crap is childish.

 

[Brain357]

Any fiscal policy is affected more by the one percent that own ninety percent of the wealth. I thought it was self-evident under Any form of capitalism.

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

And that is a problem why? The job creators aren't creating enough well payng jobs. Since they aren't they should expect to pay taxes.

 

[Rustic]

Why are the expected to carry the weight of the other 300 million?

They aren't. The millionaires are as well. . Oh and why? Because they pay such low wages that the 300 million need welfare to get buy. Pay more in wages or pay more in taxes.

Robin Hood never worked

 

[Care4all]

1 billion dollars is 1000 million dollars....

you could be paid a million dollars a year as a salary for a thousand years in a row....

that's hard to grasp....hard to imagine having so much money to manage....

 

[bripat9643]

So what does that have to do with anything?

Any fiscal policy is affected more by the one percent that own ninety percent of the wealth. I thought it was self-evident under Any form of capitalism.

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

That's not what leverage is, numskull.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

And that is a problem why? The job creators aren't creating enough well payng jobs. Since they aren't they should expect to pay taxes.

Wait a minute, can you tell me where it's written that "job creators" are obligated to us to create X amount of jobs? Do you think that's why people open up businesses; so that you and I have a job with a livable wage?

I simply can't understand how you people think. You don't see how ridiculous that is. That's like saying if you make over 50K a year, you are obligated to get married and have a family, or you are obligated to decorate your house at Christmas time and Halloween. And if you don't, you should pay a higher tax.

Businesses open up for one reason, and that is to make a profit. In order to do that, most businesses hire help. They offer jobs and you either accept the job or you don't, but it's not a social obligation on the part of business.

If you don't possess a skill or trade that is worth the pay you want or need, that's not businesses fault, it's yours. It's up to you to make yourself worth more money.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Apparently not since you think you're entitled to a share of it.

Dear, what do believe the social Power to Tax is for; but to find ways and means to appropriate the People's share, and not just the share of the truest Capitalists.

Taxation is theft.

There's no two ways about it.

No one is entitled to a share of what I earn. That includes the government.

That is ridiculous. It is not theft. In return we get infrastructure and military. Without those your billionaires would not be billionaires.

We also get Cash for Clunkers, bank bailouts, government air conditioners, Planned Parenthood, midnight basketball, Obama Care, NPR funding, PBS funding, and even money to fund overseas projects that don't benefit the US.

Theft is the action of taking property from somebody against their will.

Move if you don't like it. Without the things government does we would be a shithole country. Without the military we would have been taken. Without roads our economy couldn't function. This taxes is stealing crap is childish.

Roads and the military are outlined in the US Constitution. Of course we should spend money on that, but everything not enumerated in the Constitution--not. Social programs should be a state issue--not a federal one. Do you want to see the millions and billions our government wastes? I listed just some of them in my response above.

Cradle-to-Gravers will be the end of this country yet. It's what we on the right call the Cart Theory. If the entire town is pulling a giant empty cart, the cart flies down the road effortlessly. When some of those people decide to get in the cart instead of pulling it, the cart slows down. When over half of the people decide they want to ride in the cart instead of pulling it, the cart stops.

Well our cart stopped years ago, and having more people jump in the cart won't make it move again. 18 trillion in debt and growing. If we want to be a successful country, we all have to do our part and not expect the people not in the cart to do all the pulling.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

Wow! You're just chock full of Hannity bites aren't you?
Try paying taxes when you're bringing home 15K/year.
How about that comment of yours that money is unlimited?
Didn't work out too well for pre-WWII Germany, did it?

So I sound like Hannity? I don't know. I don't watch or listen to him, but I'll take it as a compliment.

Sure people making 15K a year should pay something in income tax; we all should. If everybody had a dog in the fight, maybe more people would pay attention as to how our government wastes money.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

Only the right is disingenuous enough to appeal to ignorance regarding capital and its influence under any form of capitalism.

And, the right's class warfare is showing whenever they complain about the least wealthy not having to lobby Congress for a tax loophole large enough to drive a yacht through.

The right is driving class warfare? What about the left? Watch the Democrat debates coming up and tell me if you don't see them launch an attack on the wealthy in this country. They do it in nearly every debate. You know, those evil rich people that are hoarding all that money so you don't get any? Watch and see for yourself.

 

[Indeependent]

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

Only the right is disingenuous enough to appeal to ignorance regarding capital and its influence under any form of capitalism.

And, the right's class warfare is showing whenever they complain about the least wealthy not having to lobby Congress for a tax loophole large enough to drive a yacht through.

The right is driving class warfare? What about the left? Watch the Democrat debates coming up and tell me if you don't see them launch an attack on the wealthy in this country. They do it in nearly every debate. You know, those evil rich people that are hoarding all that money so you don't get any? Watch and see for yourself.

So whatever one side does gives the other side the right to be overtly stupid also?

 

[Brain357]

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

And that is a problem why? The job creators aren't creating enough well payng jobs. Since they aren't they should expect to pay taxes.

Wait a minute, can you tell me where it's written that "job creators" are obligated to us to create X amount of jobs? Do you think that's why people open up businesses; so that you and I have a job with a livable wage?

I simply can't understand how you people think. You don't see how ridiculous that is. That's like saying if you make over 50K a year, you are obligated to get married and have a family, or you are obligated to decorate your house at Christmas time and Halloween. And if you don't, you should pay a higher tax.

Businesses open up for one reason, and that is to make a profit. In order to do that, most businesses hire help. They offer jobs and you either accept the job or you don't, but it's not a social obligation on the part of business.

If you don't possess a skill or trade that is worth the pay you want or need, that's not businesses fault, it's yours. It's up to you to make yourself worth more money.

Somebody has to pay and you can't squeeze water from a rock. Create more good paying jobs and more people can pay.

 

[Brain357]

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

Wow! You're just chock full of Hannity bites aren't you?
Try paying taxes when you're bringing home 15K/year.
How about that comment of yours that money is unlimited?
Didn't work out too well for pre-WWII Germany, did it?

So I sound like Hannity? I don't know. I don't watch or listen to him, but I'll take it as a compliment.

Sure people making 15K a year should pay something in income tax; we all should. If everybody had a dog in the fight, maybe more people would pay attention as to how our government wastes money.

That's pretty stupid. So they should pay taxes just to collect it back in welfare. Real efficient. You must love big government.

 

[danielpalos]

Why are the expected to carry the weight of the other 300 million?

They aren't. The millionaires are as well. . Oh and why? Because they pay such low wages that the 300 million need welfare to get buy. Pay more in wages or pay more in taxes.

Robin Hood never worked

Socialism works and we have the "richest poor" in the world, to prove it.

 

[danielpalos]

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

What does that have to do with leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, the top 10% of wage earners in this country pay over 70% of all federal income taxes collected while the bottom 47% pay absolutely nothing.

Only the right is disingenuous enough to appeal to ignorance regarding capital and its influence under any form of capitalism.

And, the right's class warfare is showing whenever they complain about the least wealthy not having to lobby Congress for a tax loophole large enough to drive a yacht through.

The right is driving class warfare? What about the left? Watch the Democrat debates coming up and tell me if you don't see them launch an attack on the wealthy in this country. They do it in nearly every debate. You know, those evil rich people that are hoarding all that money so you don't get any? Watch and see for yourself.

What part isn't true? What jobs boom is there with a capital gains distinction for those with enough capital.

 

[danielpalos]

Any fiscal policy is affected more by the one percent that own ninety percent of the wealth. I thought it was self-evident under Any form of capitalism.

No, it's not.

We do not live in a bubble. That's a liberal fallacy. There is no finite amount of money in the US where if one has too much, it's responsible for others not having enough.

In a great country such as ours, money is endless, it's just that you have to go out and get yours. The people that have the most are those who were obsessed with money their entire lives. But that obsession and accomplishment does not or should not make them responsible for those of us that never had that compulsion.

Still missing the point or are you just a lousy capitalist who doesn't understand the concept of leverage.

Oh, I don't? Then why not treat us to a few scenarios of this leverage you speak of?

Is one percent of the People owning ninety percent of the wealth, not self-evident enough for the right?

That's not what leverage is, numskull.

Yes, skullnum, it is a form of leverage under any form of capitalism. Only the right doesn't get it.