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I notice repeatedly how the AGW knuckleheads will go on and on about the planet getting warmer. What they won't explain because they can't explain, is how what man does is effecting it.
Mother nature isn't going to follow anyone's political agenda. The lefties are simply using this scam to gain more control. And then there are the truly ignorant people such as the OP, who actually believe that stuff.
I'm terribly sorry you missed that. I would have bet my eyeteeth that everyone had seen it. Here's how it goes.
Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, man, by the combustion of fossil fuels (primarily coal and petroleum of course) has put hundreds of billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the Earth's atmosphere: enough to raise the level from 280 parts per million to 400 parts per million.
Carbon dioxide is one of the greenhouse gases. It absorbs some of the infrared spectra. So, sunlight shines on the Earth where it is absorbed by the ocean and the land and a little by the air. Anything above absolute zero (and that would be everything) radiates infrared light (also known as radiant heat). A planet whose atmosphere had no carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases would allow all of that reradiated infrared (that wasn't aimed back at the Earth) to escape to space. But planets like ours, whose atmospheres DO have some greenhouse gases (GHGs from hereon) trap a portion of that radiation. Thus they tend to accumulate solar energy which increases their temperatures which increases the amount of infrared radiation. This carries on till things balance out again. But if the level of GHGs increases, the atmosphere will have to warm up to find a new equilibrium point again. If GHGs just keep climbing, so will temperatures. If the Earth had no carbon dioxide, it's average temperature would be almost 33 centigrade degrees cooler than it is. The Earth would be a snowball. So we humans need SOME CO2.
So, the CO2 that humans have added to the Earth's atmosphere has caused it to accumulate solar energy and it is still warming up, trying to find an equilibrium point. Of course we're still pumping GHGs into the air faster and faster, so it's always playing catch up. And CO2 stays in the air for quite a long time, so that even if we could magically stop all further CO2 emissions right this instant, the Earth's temperature would continue to rise for many, many years.
Okay, got the big picture? Do let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be glad to help out wherever I can.
Right, the "the big picture, I have a question.
Do you believe every Molecule of CO2 released into the atmosphere stays there forever?
CO2, hard for people to grasp its significance, or insignificance.
Thus far all you got is theories, no fact.
Here is a fact, any particle from space, as in radiation that strikes a molecule of CO2, radiation from the sun, solar radiation loses enuergy after striking CO2.
Stuff is not bouncing around making things hot, its as simple as Billiards, or even a nuclear reaction, it gets weak, quickly. Hell, one can actually stand next to spent nuclear fuel and not get burnt to a crisp, its a simple principle, once a molecule or neutron or whatever strikes something, it loses its strength, even its heat.
CO2, a freind of life, which makes it an enemy of....................
Climate change deniers cite snowstorm: Debunking Donald Trump et al.
An intense blizzard, appropriately named Hercules, has blanketed the Northeast. Antarctic ice locked in a Russian ship containing a team of scientistsen route, no less, to do climate research. Record low temperatures have been seen in parts of the United States, and in Winnipeg, Manitoba, temperatures on Dec. 31, 2013 were as cold as temperatures on ... Mars.....
....
1. Statements about climate trends must be based on, er, trends. Not individual events or occurrences. Weather is not climate, and anecdotes are not statistics.
2. Global warming is actually expected to increase heavy precipitation in winter storms, and for the Northern Hemisphere, there is evidence that these storms are already more frequent and intense, according to the draft U.S. National Climate Assessment.
3. Antarctica is a very cold place. But global warming is affecting it as predicted: Antarctica is losing ice overall, according to the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. However, sea ice is a different matter than land-based or glacial ice. Antarctic sea ice is increasing, and moreover, the reason for this may be climate change! (For more, read here.)
Finally, just one last thing: When its winter on Earth, its also summer on Earth ... somewhere else. Thus, allow us to counter anecdotal evidence about cold weather with more anecdotal evidence: Its blazing hot in Australia, with temperatures in some regions set to possibly soar above 120 degrees Fahrenheit in the coming days.
its a shame we've let this become yet another partisan football because, in the end, if allow the continued dumbing down of America, we all lose.
Climate change deniers cite snowstorm: Debunking Donald Trump et al.
An intense blizzard, appropriately named Hercules, has blanketed the Northeast. Antarctic ice locked in a Russian ship containing a team of scientistsen route, no less, to do climate research. Record low temperatures have been seen in parts of the United States, and in Winnipeg, Manitoba, temperatures on Dec. 31, 2013 were as cold as temperatures on ... Mars.....
....
1. Statements about climate trends must be based on, er, trends. Not individual events or occurrences. Weather is not climate, and anecdotes are not statistics.
2. Global warming is actually expected to increase heavy precipitation in winter storms, and for the Northern Hemisphere, there is evidence that these storms are already more frequent and intense, according to the draft U.S. National Climate Assessment.
3. Antarctica is a very cold place. But global warming is affecting it as predicted: Antarctica is losing ice overall, according to the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. However, sea ice is a different matter than land-based or glacial ice. Antarctic sea ice is increasing, and moreover, the reason for this may be climate change! (For more, read here.)
Finally, just one last thing: When its winter on Earth, its also summer on Earth ... somewhere else. Thus, allow us to counter anecdotal evidence about cold weather with more anecdotal evidence: Its blazing hot in Australia, with temperatures in some regions set to possibly soar above 120 degrees Fahrenheit in the coming days.
its a shame we've let this become yet another partisan football because, in the end, if allow the continued dumbing down of America, we all lose.
Since man made global warming has never been proven there is no need to disprove it.
I notice repeatedly how the AGW knuckleheads will go on and on about the planet getting warmer. What they won't explain because they can't explain, is how what man does is effecting it.
Mother nature isn't going to follow anyone's political agenda. The lefties are simply using this scam to gain more control. And then there are the truly ignorant people such as the OP, who actually believe that stuff.
I'm terribly sorry you missed that. I would have bet my eyeteeth that everyone had seen it. Here's how it goes.
Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, man, by the combustion of fossil fuels (primarily coal and petroleum of course) has put hundreds of billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the Earth's atmosphere: enough to raise the level from 280 parts per million to 400 parts per million.
Carbon dioxide is one of the greenhouse gases. It absorbs some of the infrared spectra. So, sunlight shines on the Earth where it is absorbed by the ocean and the land and a little by the air. Anything above absolute zero (and that would be everything) radiates infrared light (also known as radiant heat). A planet whose atmosphere had no carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases would allow all of that reradiated infrared (that wasn't aimed back at the Earth) to escape to space. But planets like ours, whose atmospheres DO have some greenhouse gases (GHGs from hereon) trap a portion of that radiation. Thus they tend to accumulate solar energy which increases their temperatures which increases the amount of infrared radiation. This carries on till things balance out again. But if the level of GHGs increases, the atmosphere will have to warm up to find a new equilibrium point again. If GHGs just keep climbing, so will temperatures. If the Earth had no carbon dioxide, it's average temperature would be almost 33 centigrade degrees cooler than it is. The Earth would be a snowball. So we humans need SOME CO2.
So, the CO2 that humans have added to the Earth's atmosphere has caused it to accumulate solar energy and it is still warming up, trying to find an equilibrium point. Of course we're still pumping GHGs into the air faster and faster, so it's always playing catch up. And CO2 stays in the air for quite a long time, so that even if we could magically stop all further CO2 emissions right this instant, the Earth's temperature would continue to rise for many, many years.
Okay, got the big picture? Do let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be glad to help out wherever I can.
Right, the "the big picture, I have a question.
Do you believe every Molecule of CO2 released into the atmosphere stays there forever?
CO2, hard for people to grasp its significance, or insignificance.
Thus far all you got is theories, no fact.
Here is a fact, any particle from space, as in radiation that strikes a molecule of CO2, radiation from the sun, solar radiation loses energy after striking CO2.
Stuff is not bouncing around making things hot, its as simple as Billiards, or even a nuclear reaction, it gets weak, quickly. Hell, one can actually stand next to spent nuclear fuel and not get burnt to a crisp, its a simple principle, once a molecule or neutron or whatever strikes something, it loses its strength, even its heat.
CO2, a freind of life, which makes it an enemy of....................
I notice repeatedly how the AGW knuckleheads will go on and on about the planet getting warmer. What they won't explain because they can't explain, is how what man does is effecting it.
Mother nature isn't going to follow anyone's political agenda. The lefties are simply using this scam to gain more control. And then there are the truly ignorant people such as the OP, who actually believe that stuff.
I'm terribly sorry you missed that. I would have bet my eyeteeth that everyone had seen it. Here's how it goes.
Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, man, by the combustion of fossil fuels (primarily coal and petroleum of course) has put hundreds of billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the Earth's atmosphere: enough to raise the level from 280 parts per million to 400 parts per million.
Carbon dioxide is one of the greenhouse gases. It absorbs some of the infrared spectra. So, sunlight shines on the Earth where it is absorbed by the ocean and the land and a little by the air. Anything above absolute zero (and that would be everything) radiates infrared light (also known as radiant heat). A planet whose atmosphere had no carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases would allow all of that reradiated infrared (that wasn't aimed back at the Earth) to escape to space. But planets like ours, whose atmospheres DO have some greenhouse gases (GHGs from hereon) trap a portion of that radiation. Thus they tend to accumulate solar energy which increases their temperatures which increases the amount of infrared radiation. This carries on till things balance out again. But if the level of GHGs increases, the atmosphere will have to warm up to find a new equilibrium point again. If GHGs just keep climbing, so will temperatures. If the Earth had no carbon dioxide, it's average temperature would be almost 33 centigrade degrees cooler than it is. The Earth would be a snowball. So we humans need SOME CO2.
So, the CO2 that humans have added to the Earth's atmosphere has caused it to accumulate solar energy and it is still warming up, trying to find an equilibrium point. Of course we're still pumping GHGs into the air faster and faster, so it's always playing catch up. And CO2 stays in the air for quite a long time, so that even if we could magically stop all further CO2 emissions right this instant, the Earth's temperature would continue to rise for many, many years.
Okay, got the big picture? Do let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be glad to help out wherever I can.
If winters fail to disprove warming, summers must thus fail to prove warming.
True. But no one is trying to use summers to prove warming. They use long term temperature records. The usually average the values over a year to smooth out all the seasonal variation. Like this:
Only brain damaged liberals still cling to the Al Gore inspired nonsense of 'Global Warming'.
All they need to do is stick their head out the front door for 30 seconds to feel the bitter cold reality of a record setting winter. ...
Actually, only brain damaged rightwingnuts still cling to the denier cult myth that the Earth isn't warming, in spite of all of the scientific evidence showing that it is, in fact, rapidly warming.
All the rightwingnuts foolishly imagine they need to do is stick their head out the front door in order to know what the climate around the world is doing. The poor delusional retards are too stupid to understand the difference between the weather in their front yard one year in the wintertime and global climate all around the world all year for many years.
2013 is the 4th warmest year on record globally.
This last November was the warmest November on record globally.
Last month, December 2013, was the 346th consecutive month with a global temperature higher than the 20th century average.
2010 is tied with 2005 as the hottest year on record.
The decade from 2001 to 2010 was the hottest decade on record.
From 1998 to now, every year ranks among the hottest years on record.
The coolest years since 1998 are still hotter than the hottest years before 1998.
Only brainwashed retards and insane conspiracy theory nutjobs can look at these facts and the mountains of other evidence and data that the scientists have collected, and still remain in denial about the abrupt warming and the resultant climate changes that are obviously happening.
It's amusing to me how warmers adapt argument to suit any occasion.
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Climate change deniers cite snowstorm: Debunking Donald Trump et al.
An intense blizzard, appropriately named Hercules, has blanketed the Northeast. Antarctic ice locked in a Russian ship containing a team of scientistsen route, no less, to do climate research. Record low temperatures have been seen in parts of the United States, and in Winnipeg, Manitoba, temperatures on Dec. 31, 2013 were as cold as temperatures on ... Mars.....
....
1. Statements about climate trends must be based on, er, trends. Not individual events or occurrences. Weather is not climate, and anecdotes are not statistics.
2. Global warming is actually expected to increase heavy precipitation in winter storms, and for the Northern Hemisphere, there is evidence that these storms are already more frequent and intense, according to the draft U.S. National Climate Assessment.
3. Antarctica is a very cold place. But global warming is affecting it as predicted: Antarctica is losing ice overall, according to the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. However, sea ice is a different matter than land-based or glacial ice. Antarctic sea ice is increasing, and moreover, the reason for this may be climate change! (For more, read here.)
Finally, just one last thing: When its winter on Earth, its also summer on Earth ... somewhere else. Thus, allow us to counter anecdotal evidence about cold weather with more anecdotal evidence: Its blazing hot in Australia, with temperatures in some regions set to possibly soar above 120 degrees Fahrenheit in the coming days.
its a shame we've let this become yet another partisan football because, in the end, if allow the continued dumbing down of America, we all lose.
Since man made global warming has never been proven there is no need to disprove it.
Climate change deniers cite snowstorm: Debunking Donald Trump et al.
its a shame we've let this become yet another partisan football because, in the end, if allow the continued dumbing down of America, we all lose.
Since man made global warming has never been proven there is no need to disprove it.
There is no such thing as 'proof' in science, RetardedGullibleSlug.
However, the human causation of the current abrupt global warming is very well established as a scientific fact.
Your delusional denial of the reality of AGW is the result of your extreme ignorance and moronic gullibility, not any problems with the scientific understanding of what is happening.
Once again CO2 does NOT drive climate, never has.
And still no datasets with source code to prove their assertion.
All the AGW cultists can do is post the AGW church propaganda.
If Winter doesn't disprove Global Warming, than neither Summer nor Hurricanes prove it.
Just sayin'.
One of the hallmarks of this scam is that they change the argument whenever it suits them. A few years back we were supposed to have snowless winters by 2010. When that didn't happen they changed the name to Climate Change so that whatever the climate does can be blamed on humans.
Let's not cherry pick the data. We are talking climate so let's look at some real data. Some data that covers enough to get a true picture: