Winter Does Not Disprove Global Warming

[jon_berzerk]

Only brain damaged liberals still cling to the Al Gore inspired nonsense of 'Global Warming'.

All they need to do is stick their head out the front door for 30 seconds to feel the bitter cold reality of a record setting winter. ...

Actually, only brain damaged rightwingnuts still cling to the denier cult myth that the Earth isn't warming, in spite of all of the scientific evidence showing that it is, in fact, rapidly warming.

All the rightwingnuts foolishly imagine they need to do is stick their head out the front door in order to know what the climate around the world is doing. The poor delusional retards are too stupid to understand the difference between the weather in their front yard one year in the wintertime and global climate all around the world all year for many years.

2013 is the 4th warmest year on record globally.

This last November was the warmest November on record globally.

Last month, December 2013, was the 346th consecutive month with a global temperature higher than the 20th century average.

2010 is tied with 2005 as the hottest year on record.

The decade from 2001 to 2010 was the hottest decade on record.

From 1998 to now, every year ranks among the hottest years on record.

The coolest years since 1998 are still hotter than the hottest years before 1998.

Only brainwashed retards and insane conspiracy theory nutjobs can look at these facts and the mountains of other evidence and data that the scientists have collected, and still remain in denial about the abrupt warming and the resultant climate changes that are obviously happening.

Where did you get this garbage from?

It is well known that this year was cooler than normal and that this will be one of the coldest winters on record. More records were set in the last week for freezing temperatures. 90% of the U.S. is frozen as we speak. The average temperature of the U.S. is 14.4 degrees. A ship full of Global Warming scientists had to be rescued from an ice breaker last week in the Antarctic because they got froze in.

What does the left think caused all of this? Global Warming. They claim that melting ice is putting out huge masses of cold air calling it a polar vortex.

all 50 states reported a temp below freezing

 

[mal]

Climate change deniers cite snowstorm: Debunking Donald Trump et al.

An intense blizzard, appropriately named Hercules, has blanketed the Northeast. Antarctic ice locked in a Russian ship containing a team of scientists—en route, no less, to do climate research. Record low temperatures have been seen in parts of the United States, and in Winnipeg, Manitoba, temperatures on Dec. 31, 2013 were as cold as temperatures on ... Mars.....

....

1. Statements about climate trends must be based on, er, trends. Not individual events or occurrences. Weather is not climate, and anecdotes are not statistics.

2. Global warming is actually expected to increase “heavy precipitation in winter storms,” and for the Northern Hemisphere, there is evidence that these storms are already more frequent and intense, according to the draft U.S. National Climate Assessment.

3. Antarctica is a very cold place. But global warming is affecting it as predicted: Antarctica is losing ice overall, according to the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. However, sea ice is a different matter than land-based or glacial ice. Antarctic sea ice is increasing, and moreover, the reason for this may be climate change! (For more, read here.)

Finally, just one last thing: When it’s winter on Earth, it’s also summer on Earth ... somewhere else. Thus, allow us to counter anecdotal evidence about cold weather with more anecdotal evidence: It’s blazing hot in Australia, with temperatures in some regions set to possibly soar above 120 degrees Fahrenheit in the coming days.

its a shame we've let this become yet another partisan football because, in the end, if allow the continued dumbing down of America, we all lose.

Who is Denying that "Climate Change" exists?...

You ******* Dishonest Douchers went from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" because you were WRONG about "Global Warming" and didn't expect people to notice your Abject Dishonesty.

NOBODY is Denying "Climate Change", you Stain.

But it is a FACT that your Lord and Savior, aglore Junior, Claimed that the Arctic Ice would be gone in the Summer of 2013 and in Fact it grew from Summer of 2012 to 2013 by 29%...

You have all been Consistently WRONG about this since you stopped Claiming a "New Ice Age" in the 70's.

Get a helmet, sit the **** down and shut the **** up, you Short Bus Dingleberry Notherfuckers.

The Grown-ups are about to take control again.

Like the Climate, everything has Cycles.



peace...

 

[mudwhistle]

Climate change deniers cite snowstorm: Debunking Donald Trump et al.

An intense blizzard, appropriately named Hercules, has blanketed the Northeast. Antarctic ice locked in a Russian ship containing a team of scientists—en route, no less, to do climate research. Record low temperatures have been seen in parts of the United States, and in Winnipeg, Manitoba, temperatures on Dec. 31, 2013 were as cold as temperatures on ... Mars.....

....

1. Statements about climate trends must be based on, er, trends. Not individual events or occurrences. Weather is not climate, and anecdotes are not statistics.

2. Global warming is actually expected to increase “heavy precipitation in winter storms,” and for the Northern Hemisphere, there is evidence that these storms are already more frequent and intense, according to the draft U.S. National Climate Assessment.

3. Antarctica is a very cold place. But global warming is affecting it as predicted: Antarctica is losing ice overall, according to the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. However, sea ice is a different matter than land-based or glacial ice. Antarctic sea ice is increasing, and moreover, the reason for this may be climate change! (For more, read here.)

Finally, just one last thing: When it’s winter on Earth, it’s also summer on Earth ... somewhere else. Thus, allow us to counter anecdotal evidence about cold weather with more anecdotal evidence: It’s blazing hot in Australia, with temperatures in some regions set to possibly soar above 120 degrees Fahrenheit in the coming days.

its a shame we've let this become yet another partisan football because, in the end, if allow the continued dumbing down of America, we all lose.

Who is Denying that "Climate Change" exists?...

You ******* Dishonest Douchers went from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" because you were WRONG about "Global Warming" and didn't expect people to notice your Abject Dishonesty.

NOBODY is Denying "Climate Change", you Stain.

But it is a FACT that your Lord and Savior, aglore Junior, Claimed that the Arctic Ice would be gone in the Summer of 2013 and in Fact it grew from Summer of 2012 to 2013 by 29%...

You have all been Consistently WRONG about this since you stopped Claiming a "New Ice Age" in the 70's.

Get a helmet, sit the **** down and shut the **** up, you Short Bus Dingleberry Notherfuckers.

The Grown-ups are about to take control again.

Like the Climate, everything has Cycles.



peace...

The 70s it was global cooling warnings and ozone depletion. Now it's climate change.

Let's cripple the economy because of changes in the ambient temperature of the planet, shall we?

 

[Truthmatters]

your team ruins the economy for political purposes all the time.

You think its good for your party so you **** the country

debt default ?

 

[mudwhistle]

your team ruins the economy for political purposes all the time.

You think its good for your party so you **** the country

debt default ?

Point out what makes a bad economy good for the GOP.

The poor historically votes Democrat.

The impoverished succumb to promises from liberals of handouts every time.

An independent and fiscally secure population votes GOP.

Why would the GOP want to create more Democrat voters by ruining the economy?

 

[thanatos144]

Climate change deniers cite snowstorm: Debunking Donald Trump et al.



its a shame we've let this become yet another partisan football because, in the end, if allow the continued dumbing down of America, we all lose.

Who is Denying that "Climate Change" exists?...

You ******* Dishonest Douchers went from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" because you were WRONG about "Global Warming" and didn't expect people to notice your Abject Dishonesty.

NOBODY is Denying "Climate Change", you Stain.

But it is a FACT that your Lord and Savior, aglore Junior, Claimed that the Arctic Ice would be gone in the Summer of 2013 and in Fact it grew from Summer of 2012 to 2013 by 29%...

You have all been Consistently WRONG about this since you stopped Claiming a "New Ice Age" in the 70's.

Get a helmet, sit the **** down and shut the **** up, you Short Bus Dingleberry Notherfuckers.

The Grown-ups are about to take control again.

Like the Climate, everything has Cycles.



peace...

The 70s it was global cooling warnings and ozone depletion. Now it's climate change.

Let's cripple the economy because of changes in the ambient temperature of the planet, shall we?

Thats the point....Cripple the economy. It is why communists are so keen on the man made global warming myth. They sure as hell couldn't do it with their ideas because most college kids grow up.

 

[thanatos144]

your team ruins the economy for political purposes all the time.

You think its good for your party so you **** the country

debt default ?

do bad you to much a ***** to have your rep on because that stupid post deserves a neg.

 

[mal]

your team ruins the economy for political purposes all the time.

You think its good for your party so you **** the country

debt default ?

Good Lord... You've returned even MORE Hysterical and Dishonest...

I didn't Think it was possible.



peace...

 

[thanatos144]

your team ruins the economy for political purposes all the time.

You think its good for your party so you **** the country

debt default ?

Good Lord... You've returned even MORE Hysterical and Dishonest...

I didn't Think it was possible.



peace...

she got a dumbass upgrade

 

[RollingThunder]

Only brain damaged liberals still cling to the Al Gore inspired nonsense of 'Global Warming'.

All they need to do is stick their head out the front door for 30 seconds to feel the bitter cold reality of a record setting winter. ...

Actually, only brain damaged rightwingnuts still cling to the denier cult myth that the Earth isn't warming, in spite of all of the scientific evidence showing that it is, in fact, rapidly warming.

All the rightwingnuts foolishly imagine they need to do is stick their head out the front door in order to know what the climate around the world is doing. The poor delusional retards are too stupid to understand the difference between the weather in their front yard one year in the wintertime and global climate all around the world all year for many years.

2013 is the 4th warmest year on record globally.

This last November was the warmest November on record globally.

Last month, December 2013, was the 346th consecutive month with a global temperature higher than the 20th century average.

2010 is tied with 2005 as the hottest year on record.

The decade from 2001 to 2010 was the hottest decade on record.

From 1998 to now, every year ranks among the hottest years on record.

The coolest years since 1998 are still hotter than the hottest years before 1998.

Only brainwashed retards and insane conspiracy theory nutjobs can look at these facts and the mountains of other evidence and data that the scientists have collected, and still remain in denial about the abrupt warming and the resultant climate changes that are obviously happening.

Where did you get this garbage from?

It is well known that this year was cooler than normal and that this will be one of the coldest winters on record. More records were set in the last week for freezing temperatures. 90% of the U.S. is frozen as we speak. The average temperature of the U.S. is 14.4 degrees. A ship full of Global Warming scientists had to be rescued from an ice breaker last week in the Antarctic because they got froze in.

What does the left think caused all of this? Global Warming. They claim that melting ice is putting out huge masses of cold air calling it a polar vortex.

LOLOLOLOL.....you rightwingnut retards are so hilarious....you're so stupidly jingoistic, you apparently think that the US is the whole world. WAKE UP, MORON! Parts of the continental US, which covers less than 2% of the Earth's surface, are having an unusually cold winter this year but Australia just had its hottest year on record and Siberia, Western Europe, and parts of South America are unusually warm. Over the whole planet, over the whole year, there were more unusually hot places than unusually cold places so your idiotic contention that "this year was cooler than normal" is either a deliberate lie or moronic ignorance. In fact, as all of the scientific agencies are now saying, 2013 was the 4th warmest year on record globally. All of the other facts that you dismissed as "garbage" are also quite true and indicative of a warming planet..

This last November was the warmest November on record globally.

Last month, December 2013, was the 346th consecutive month with a global temperature higher than the 20th century average.

2010 is tied with 2005 as the hottest year on record.

The decade from 2001 to 2010 was the hottest decade on record.

From 1998 to now, every year ranks among the hottest years on record.

The coolest years since 1998 are still hotter than the hottest years before 1998.

 

[HenryBHough]

Faith is such a beautiful thing.

Especially when seen on the face of a mindless acolyte.

Even when they're up to their asses in snow but barefoot and coatless 'cause their faith will keep them warm.

Or not.

 

[RollingThunder]

Faith is such a beautiful thing. Especially when seen on the face of a mindless acolyte. Even when they're up to their asses in snow but barefoot and coatless 'cause their faith will keep them warm. Or not.

And there's another clueless retard who is too stupid to understand the difference between cold winter weather in one small part of the planet and the global climate over the whole year and the preceding decades. Globally, 2013 was the 4th warmest year on record. Globally, this last November was the warmest November on record. Anti-science retards like the Huffer think that understanding scientific facts equals "faith" but that is just another symptom of their severe retardation.

 

[HenryBHough]

And there's another clueless retard who is too stupid to understand the difference between cold winter weather in one small part of the planet and the global climate over the whole year and the preceding decades. Globally, 2013 was the 4th warmest year on record. Globally, this last November was the warmest November on record. Anti-science retards like the Huffer think that understanding scientific facts equals "faith" but that is just another symptom of their severe retardation.

Worry not; your faith will keep you warm.

Unless we are very, very lucky.........

 

[RollingThunder]

And there's another clueless retard who is too stupid to understand the difference between cold winter weather in one small part of the planet and the global climate over the whole year and the preceding decades. Globally, 2013 was the 4th warmest year on record. Globally, this last November was the warmest November on record. Anti-science retards like the Huffer think that understanding scientific facts equals "faith" but that is just another symptom of their severe retardation.

Worry not; your faith will keep you warm. Unless we are very, very lucky.........

Your posts are still just pointless retarded drivel, Huffer. Too bad you're such a cretin.

 

[HenryBHough]

Your posts are still just pointless retarded drivel, Huffer. Too bad you're such a cretin.

Your shivering in the cold seems to be ruining your normally optimistic, cheery disposition. Please consider accepting at least a blanket.

 

[skookerasbil]

And there's another clueless retard who is too stupid to understand the difference between cold winter weather in one small part of the planet and the global climate over the whole year and the preceding decades. Globally, 2013 was the 4th warmest year on record. Globally, this last November was the warmest November on record. Anti-science retards like the Huffer think that understanding scientific facts equals "faith" but that is just another symptom of their severe retardation.

Worry not; your faith will keep you warm. Unless we are very, very lucky.........

Your posts are still just pointless retarded drivel, Huffer. Too bad you're such a cretin.

18 Degrees in Hawaii today s0n!!!!

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/01/08/all-50-states-saw-freezing-temperatures-at-some-point-tuesday/








Wanna go ask the thousands of people who saved up $10,000.00 and landed in Honnalulu today what they think about global warming and all the "consensus" science shit?

 

[mal]

Worry not; your faith will keep you warm. Unless we are very, very lucky.........

Your posts are still just pointless retarded drivel, Huffer. Too bad you're such a cretin.

18 Degrees in Hawaii today s0n!!!!

All 50 States Saw Freezing Temperatures At Some Point Tuesday « CBS Atlanta








Wanna go ask the thousands of people who saved up $10,000.00 and landed in Honnalulu today what they think about global warming and all the "consensus" science shit?

It's all a Product of Global Warming... algore said so.



peace...

 

[RollingThunder]

Worry not; your faith will keep you warm. Unless we are very, very lucky.........

Your posts are still just pointless retarded drivel, Huffer. Too bad you're such a cretin.

18 Degrees in Hawaii today s0n!!!!
All 50 States Saw Freezing Temperatures At Some Point Tuesday « CBS Atlanta
Wanna go ask the thousands of people who saved up $10,000.00 and landed in Honnalulu today what they think about global warming and all the "consensus" science shit?

It's wintertime and some places in the US are cold. So what? A lot of places around the world are hot right now. Globally, the Earth is still warming.

BTW, the following article, published today, is using degrees Centigrade. 50 degrees Centigrade = 122 degrees Fahrenheit. The "50s" means upwards of 122 degrees.

Temperatures climb towards 50s as heatwave grips Western Australia
The Guardian
Oliver Milman
8 January 2014
(excerpts)
Australia’s record temperature could be toppled on Wednesday and Thursday, with a fearsome heatwave striking large parts of Western Australia. The Bureau of Meteorology had predicted that the remote outpost of Emu Creek could reach 52C on Wednesday, but this was later scaled down to the high-40s. The temperature in Emu Creek, located in the Pilbara, will be matched on Wednesday by Onslow, which will reach 49C, while Marble Bar will get up to 46C. A relatively minor temperature increase in these locations will see them break the daily temperature record of 50.7C, set in the small South Australian town of Oodnadatta in 1960.

The bureau warned that hot and gusty winds would cause extreme fire danger to the Exmouth gulf coast and the Gascoyne and south interior regions. The temperature record has already been challenged in a sweltering start to 2014 for Australia’s interior. On 2 January, Moomba in South Australia reached 49.3C, with 12 other locations in the state baking in heat of 48C or more. The hot beginning to 2014 follows what was Australia’s warmest ever year since records began in 1910. 2013 was 1.2C warmer than the long-term average, with January setting new highs for the hottest day, week and month ever recorded.

 

[mal]

Your posts are still just pointless retarded drivel, Huffer. Too bad you're such a cretin.

18 Degrees in Hawaii today s0n!!!!
All 50 States Saw Freezing Temperatures At Some Point Tuesday « CBS Atlanta
Wanna go ask the thousands of people who saved up $10,000.00 and landed in Honnalulu today what they think about global warming and all the "consensus" science shit?

It's wintertime and some places in the US are cold. So what? A lot of places around the world are hot right now. Globally, the Earth is still warming.

BTW, the following article, published today, is using degrees Centigrade. 50 degrees Centigrade = 122 degrees Fahrenheit. The "50s" means upwards of 122 degrees.

Temperatures climb towards 50s as heatwave grips Western Australia
The Guardian
Oliver Milman
8 January 2014
(excerpts)
Australia’s record temperature could be toppled on Wednesday and Thursday, with a fearsome heatwave striking large parts of Western Australia. The Bureau of Meteorology had predicted that the remote outpost of Emu Creek could reach 52C on Wednesday, but this was later scaled down to the high-40s. The temperature in Emu Creek, located in the Pilbara, will be matched on Wednesday by Onslow, which will reach 49C, while Marble Bar will get up to 46C. A relatively minor temperature increase in these locations will see them break the daily temperature record of 50.7C, set in the small South Australian town of Oodnadatta in 1960.

The bureau warned that hot and gusty winds would cause extreme fire danger to the Exmouth gulf coast and the Gascoyne and south interior regions. The temperature record has already been challenged in a sweltering start to 2014 for Australia’s interior. On 2 January, Moomba in South Australia reached 49.3C, with 12 other locations in the state baking in heat of 48C or more. The hot beginning to 2014 follows what was Australia’s warmest ever year since records began in 1910. 2013 was 1.2C warmer than the long-term average, with January setting new highs for the hottest day, week and month ever recorded.

That settles it!... It's Hot in Australia and the Arctic Ice growing 29% from Summer 2012 to Summer 2013 is just like... Nothing man!... And 50 States having Freezing temps is like... Nothing man!...

Australia's Hot and until it's an ice cap I won't believe anything anyone says except that the Earth is Burning up because America is great and WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!...



peace...

 

[elektra]

I'm terribly sorry you missed that. I would have bet my eyeteeth that everyone had seen it. Here's how it goes.

Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, man, by the combustion of fossil fuels (primarily coal and petroleum of course) has put hundreds of billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the Earth's atmosphere: enough to raise the level from 280 parts per million to 400 parts per million.

Carbon dioxide is one of the greenhouse gases. It absorbs some of the infrared spectra. So, sunlight shines on the Earth where it is absorbed by the ocean and the land and a little by the air. Anything above absolute zero (and that would be everything) radiates infrared light (also known as radiant heat). A planet whose atmosphere had no carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases would allow all of that reradiated infrared (that wasn't aimed back at the Earth) to escape to space. But planets like ours, whose atmospheres DO have some greenhouse gases (GHGs from hereon) trap a portion of that radiation. Thus they tend to accumulate solar energy which increases their temperatures which increases the amount of infrared radiation. This carries on till things balance out again. But if the level of GHGs increases, the atmosphere will have to warm up to find a new equilibrium point again. If GHGs just keep climbing, so will temperatures. If the Earth had no carbon dioxide, it's average temperature would be almost 33 centigrade degrees cooler than it is. The Earth would be a snowball. So we humans need SOME CO2.

So, the CO2 that humans have added to the Earth's atmosphere has caused it to accumulate solar energy and it is still warming up, trying to find an equilibrium point. Of course we're still pumping GHGs into the air faster and faster, so it's always playing catch up. And CO2 stays in the air for quite a long time, so that even if we could magically stop all further CO2 emissions right this instant, the Earth's temperature would continue to rise for many, many years.

Okay, got the big picture? Do let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be glad to help out wherever I can.

Right, the "the big picture, I have a question.

Do you believe every Molecule of CO2 released into the atmosphere stays there forever?

No.

CO2, hard for people to grasp its significance, or insignificance.

Thus far all you got is theories, no fact.

Sigh, this gets tiresome.

We never will have facts. Theories don't get proven. They are supported or refuted. They are accepted or rejected. No proofs in the natural sciences - they would require a comprehensive examination of the entire universe.

Here is a fact, any particle from space, as in radiation that strikes a molecule of CO2, radiation from the sun, solar radiation loses energy after striking CO2.

Stuff is not bouncing around making things hot, its as simple as Billiards, or even a nuclear reaction, it gets weak, quickly. Hell, one can actually stand next to spent nuclear fuel and not get burnt to a crisp, its a simple principle, once a molecule or neutron or whatever strikes something, it loses its strength, even its heat.

CO2, a freind of life, which makes it an enemy of....................

Wow... now there's an analysis I've never heard before. And I bet your bottom dollar I'll never hear it again. I'm not even sure I know what you're trying to say. You're not a young Coloradan are you?

Okay, here goes... jeez, where to start.

When particles - or anything else - collides, energy is transferred. In a simple collision, one particle usually gains energy while the other particle loses energy. Sometimes, there's no change in either particle's energy. Sometimes things get complicated because one of the particles breaks into multiple, smaller particles. But there is one thing that is ALWAYS true of these collisions and it is the key that allows physicists and scientists and students to figure out what happened or what will happen in any given collision: the total amount of energy in the system will remain constant. This comes from the physical law that tells us "energy can neither be created nor destroyed". Energy can only be tranferred from place to place or transformed from one type to another or even transformed into matter and back from matter. But you can't create it out of thin air and you can't destroy it no matter how hard you try.

So, when you have a collision, the particles will all leave it with some fraction of the total energy the system (the system = all the particles under examination) possessed prior to the collision. The sum of that post-collision energy: from the potential and kinetic energy of the particles, of any energy that tried to sneak off as ejected photons of light or heat or some other EM radiation, of the added mass - it all remains the same, no matter what.

Now this is related and I wouldn't bring it up but you did. What does it mean when we talk about the temperature of some mass? What is the difference between a cubic foot of air at 85F and one at -15F? The answer is in the energy content of the individual gas molecules that make up cube. Each of them in the warmer cube has more kinetic energy. They fly around inside the cube at higher speed and more energy is transferred about as they collide with each other. And since they are all moving faster, they collide more often. If we had the same number of molecules in each block, the increased number of collisions, particularly with the surface of whatever container we're using, would increase the pressure the gas exerted against its restraints. If the gas were uncontained - unrestrained - the increased kinetic energy and resultant increased collisions would cause the molecules to spread apart. The gas expands and becomes less dense.

So, what's happening with the CO2 in our atmosphere. Well, as you know, CO2 is a greenhouse gas. It absorbs certain portions of the infrared light spectrum. It absorbs just these frequencies because, in effect, some of the dimensions of its molecule match the wavelengths of those 'colors' of light. That allows the molecule to resonate with those kinds of light and in doing so, absorb their energy almost perfectly. So, I am a CO2 molecule just floating along and what happens. The sun shines on, say, a nearby rock, and warms it up. Being warm, it emits some infrared photons (light). The photon strikes me and I suck it up like a dry sponge. Well, that increases my energy content. I am now warmer myself. That added warmth will make it more likely that I will emit my own photon and rid myself of that extra energy. The photon I emit might get soaked up by another rock, some water, some human's hand or maybe another CO2 molecule. It doesn't really matter. What does matter is that if I - or some other GHG molecule hadn't absorbed that rock's emitted photon, it would have flown off into space. That energy would have been lost to the Earth. But instead I hung on to it. And over the long run, as energy comes in from the sun, but does not leave again because of CO2's absorption, the temperature of the Earth goes up.

Welcome to Global Warming.

Human are responsible for dang near every single molecule of CO2 that's been added to the atmosphere since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution in 1750 or so.

Welcome to Anthropogenic Global Warming or AGW.

right, you can believe that theory, its your right, but all it is a belief, an opinion, of a theory, nothing more.

CO2, a beneficial molecule, without CO2 we all die. The so called scientist that dreamt this theory up got stuck in the ice, that is how much they actually understand of the real world, outside the laboratory.