Winning: Trump To Allow Americans To Access Lower-Cost Drugs From Canada

[Weatherman2020]

Well then fuck your future advancements. There won't be any.

Wrong. That excuse just doesn't make sense. It's easy enough to find out how much profit drug companies make in the US. If you can add and subtract, you can see they wouldn't be hurting too bad with a much smaller profit margin.

I think with some simple math you will find the profits here aren’t much different than anywhere else.

Pfizer made 42% profit in 2013. They spend more on marketing than on R&D.

No they didn’t. And you’re an idiot for thinking so.

Shup Mike.
Pharma industry gets high on profits

You invest a billion dollars on the very slim hope the FDA will approve it 10 years from now.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

I thought Canada's low cost drugs were because of socialism. So it appears that the OP is claiming that the solution to high costs in capitalism is to go find socialism.

Yet another example of how Donald has turned his cult inside out.

Not really. Have you put any thought into how something can be developed here, made here, shipped there and sold back to us for less?

No, I haven't. Please explain to me this magical thing that happens, where a company makes a product, exports it, re-imports it, then sells it at a lower price tag despite the extra costs associated with the needless shipping. If I can figure out how to make prices cheaper despite my production costs going up, I will become the greatest businessperson who ever lived.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

I thought Canada's low cost drugs were because of socialism. So it appears that the OP is claiming that the solution to high costs in capitalism is to go find socialism.

Yet another example of how Donald has turned his cult inside out.

You lefties are so retarded it's not even funny. This is a brilliant way to get Big Pharma to lower their costs. The drugs are made here, dummies.

Big Pharma's high prices are capitalism. I thought we liked capitalism. Why wouldn't they just lower their costs, without government intrusion? Why do we need to use socialism?

 

[Marion Morrison]

I thought Canada's low cost drugs were because of socialism. So it appears that the OP is claiming that the solution to high costs in capitalism is to go find socialism.

Yet another example of how Donald has turned his cult inside out.

You lefties are so retarded it's not even funny. This is a brilliant way to get Big Pharma to lower their costs. The drugs are made here, dummies.

Big Pharma's high prices are capitalism. I thought we liked capitalism. Why wouldn't they just lower their costs, without government intrusion? Why do we need to use socialism?

Government intrusion and collusion is why their prices are so high here.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

It should cause some concern when you're wanting cheaper drugs but the only way to get them cheaper is after they ship them to a foreign country first.

Now, this is the post of the week.

If they are indeed being made here, and I do not know that for certain, they do actually manufacture drugs in Canada as well, why are they so much cheaper there?

As a side note it's something I've been watching closely for about six months.

My wife needs medication that costs 15k a month. My company is self insured. They never complained about it but obviously a concern. They offered us a trip to the Cayman's, all expenses paid. Flights, hotel, car rental, food allowance, even some entertainment money and I get paid for the time to go there and get a six month prescription filled. They showed me the total costs. 90k versus all of that for right at 35k. Her doctors were all for it, same drugs, same testing, same everything. She can't fly just yet so we are going to revisit this in six months. But seriously, WTF.

Hi Mike, I know we have political differences but can we set aside that for a while if you don’t mind.

My cousin is a kidney transplant patient from Cedars Sinai for almost 6 years. They prescribe him anti rejection called Belatacept (Nulojix) cost $15k per infusion every month and 30 minutes per session. That doesn’t include the hospital and the doctor. This is not available in other countries or other part of US.

I’m in the medical instruments business and I’ve been to Cayman few times. There’s nothing for me to invest there. No market except very good banking system and tourism.

Your employer is very nice to give you that kind of offer. I’m not sure how big is your employer that they can easily absorb $15k a month.
But I’m just wondering why Caymans? when it’s not the center where unique kinds of medications are available. I didn’t even see that many drug stores and with only few hospitals. If it’s available in Cayman it should be available somewhere. They don’t even manufacture drugs in Cayman. People there with severe sickness flew to Cuba or US for treatment not the other way around.

I think your wife has a very serious kinds of ailments. And I’m very surprised your wife doctor gave you that kind of options. Does he or she have another patient that took that route? How does he/she knows it’s the the same?
Have you research other places where this medication is available? They always say it’s the same but there’s always something different.
I’m not sure if you want to take all that risk.

She had a bone marrow transplant. She does hospital treatments once a month and yeah that’s not cheap either but is taking daily meds in pill form.

Her team (3 doctors) took about a week to look into it and approved it once she is clear to travel. They said it’s becoming more common. They call it medical tourism. It’s not like a hospital visit they tell me. It’s really just some doctor does a quick physical and signs off on her doctors prescription. Takes less than an hour I’m told.

Why the Caymans? I have no idea why they go are sending people there. We would be the third ones to go from my company and the others say it works out just fine for them. They get a few days vacation in a nice place and the company saves money so it’s a win win for everyone. Our medical plan is so good I’m willing to work with them to make sure they keep doing it.

My one concern was coming through customs with six months of drugs in my bag. But they don’t do that. They mail it to you every two weeks just like they do now.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

You lefties are so retarded it's not even funny. This is a brilliant way to get Big Pharma to lower their costs. The drugs are made here, dummies.

You are missing something big there Mario.

Americans has been buying drugs from Canada and Mexico for a long time. Some are already coming from India and Asia.
So there’s nothing spectacular here. NOTHING.

And it took him more than 2 years to accomplish that? WOW. While he is so busy with his buddies Putin and Kim Jung? Give us a break.

But at least he has to do something. Rather than sending those irresponsible tweets.

If it was so fucking obvious why wasn’t it in obiecare?

Obama is no longer the potus. Stick with the topic.

No defense for your stupidity. Noted.








Jack off.

Why the fuck people like you cannot have a decent conversation?
Obviously you are so fucking inhumane that you always have to bring out something that has nothing to do with with the topic?

You are just a poorly informed ignorant Trump supporter. What the fuck do you know anyway?
You adore and gave so much credit for this Trump a racist piece of shit.

Now you can start this war with me if you want. But I’m so sick and tired with low class people like you and others here when nothing to counter act ....... they show their bastard attitude.

Fuck off with that shit. Before obiecare I had a thousand dollar deductible. After it was 5 thousand. So yeah I’ll point out the asshole who pushed this shit and his prick cohorts in the democrat party all fucking day whether it hurts your feelings or not.

 

[WheelieAddict]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

Why do the drugs cost more here? Lets correct that. I like this move by the trump admin.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I thought Canada's low cost drugs were because of socialism. So it appears that the OP is claiming that the solution to high costs in capitalism is to go find socialism.

Yet another example of how Donald has turned his cult inside out.

Not really. Have you put any thought into how something can be developed here, made here, shipped there and sold back to us for less?

No, I haven't. Please explain to me this magical thing that happens, where a company makes a product, exports it, re-imports it, then sells it at a lower price tag despite the extra costs associated with the needless shipping. If I can figure out how to make prices cheaper despite my production costs going up, I will become the greatest businessperson who ever lived.

That’s kind of just asking my question a different way isn’t it?

It makes no sense to me either. If it’s that much cheaper to make the stuff in Canada it would all just be made there.

Since that isn’t happening then at what point in this process are these drugs being sprinkled with magic dust that increases their value by four times? What regulation or tax or what is causing it?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

Why do the drugs cost more here? Lets correct that. I like this move by the trump admin.

That would require doing more than just yelling the drug companies are ripping us off.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I thought Canada's low cost drugs were because of socialism. So it appears that the OP is claiming that the solution to high costs in capitalism is to go find socialism.

Yet another example of how Donald has turned his cult inside out.

Not really. Have you put any thought into how something can be developed here, made here, shipped there and sold back to us for less?

No, I haven't. Please explain to me this magical thing that happens, where a company makes a product, exports it, re-imports it, then sells it at a lower price tag despite the extra costs associated with the needless shipping. If I can figure out how to make prices cheaper despite my production costs going up, I will become the greatest businessperson who ever lived.

That’s kind of just asking my question a different way isn’t it?

It makes no sense to me either. If it’s that much cheaper to make the stuff in Canada it would all just be made there.

Since that isn’t happening then at what point in this process are these drugs being sprinkled with magic dust that increases their value by four times? What regulation or tax or what is causing it?

I know how to solve it: Make lobbying illegal and punishable for bribery, because that's what it is.

Oh yes, and 2-3 term limits for Congress/senators, and no lobbying until they're out of office for 5years.

 

[OldLady]

So much for Trump's buy American campaign!

Get Mexico and Central America to deal with our immigration problem and get Canada to solve our prescription drug problem.
Great work, Trump!

 

[Weatherman2020]

So much for Trump's buy American campaign!

Get Mexico and Central America to deal with our immigration problem and get Canada to solve our prescription drug problem.
Great work, Trump!

And two problems for Americans solved.

MAGA.

 

[debbiedowner]

So much for Trump's buy American campaign!

Oh. My. Word. If Trump cured cancer, you'd post an idiotic reply that said, "Trump just put 20,000 cancer research specialists out of work. So much for jobs, jobs, jobs!"

Anyway, moving on from this guy's petty reply, if you read the article, you learn that Trump has not yet allowed Americans to buy drugs from Canada but that he has initiated a process by which it could be done **if** the process meets federal regulatory standards.

We should not need to take months to study this. Canada is not some third-world country. Americans should be able to buy drugs directly from Canada anytime they want, starting immediately.

Canada has a different outlook of million's from U.S. now purchasing drugs from them. They could handle the few that have been for many years but not this trump proposal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...DXcM8UPc&noredirect=on&utm_term=.3c5ddd023ea1

 

[debbiedowner]

So much for Trump's buy American campaign!

Oh. My. Word. If Trump cured cancer, you'd post an idiotic reply that said, "Trump just put 20,000 cancer research specialists out of work. So much for jobs, jobs, jobs!"

Anyway, moving on from this guy's petty reply, if you read the article, you learn that Trump has not yet allowed Americans to buy drugs from Canada but that he has initiated a process by which it could be done **if** the process meets federal regulatory standards.

We should not need to take months to study this. Canada is not some third-world country. Americans should be able to buy drugs directly from Canada anytime they want, starting immediately.

You do realize that this won’t last. Drug companies know the size of the Canadian market and don’t ship more drugs to Canada than we use. Our suppliers will soon be sold out.

The obvious solution is for YOU to stop accepting price gouging by the health care industry.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...DXcM8UPc&noredirect=on&utm_term=.3c5ddd023ea1

 

[PoliticalChic]

I thought Canada's low cost drugs were because of socialism. So it appears that the OP is claiming that the solution to high costs in capitalism is to go find socialism.

Yet another example of how Donald has turned his cult inside out.

Not really. Have you put any thought into how something can be developed here, made here, shipped there and sold back to us for less?

No, I haven't. Please explain to me this magical thing that happens, where a company makes a product, exports it, re-imports it, then sells it at a lower price tag despite the extra costs associated with the needless shipping. If I can figure out how to make prices cheaper despite my production costs going up, I will become the greatest businessperson who ever lived.

That’s kind of just asking my question a different way isn’t it?

It makes no sense to me either. If it’s that much cheaper to make the stuff in Canada it would all just be made there.

Since that isn’t happening then at what point in this process are these drugs being sprinkled with magic dust that increases their value by four times? What regulation or tax or what is causing it?

I know how to solve it: Make lobbying illegal and punishable for bribery, because that's what it is.

Oh yes, and 2-3 term limits for Congress/senators, and no lobbying until they're out of office for 5years.

I'm for that second line, but, MM....lobbying is covered by the first amendment.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

I know how to solve it: Make lobbying illegal and punishable for bribery, because that's what it is.

Oh yes, and 2-3 term limits for Congress/senators, and no lobbying until they're out of office for 5years.

Please tell me I'm not the only person who sees what's wrong with this.

 

[skews13]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

So what you're saying is that Capitalist American health care is a failure, and that socialist Canadian health care has succeeded in keeping costs for our citizens reasonable, while Americans continue to be gouged.

Thank you for admitting the inadequacies of your market forces.

Without American capitalism you wouldn’t have the drugs at all. The government is causing the high prices.

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

So what you're saying is that Capitalist American health care is a failure, and that socialist Canadian health care has succeeded in keeping costs for our citizens reasonable, while Americans continue to be gouged.

Thank you for admitting the inadequacies of your market forces.

Without American capitalism you wouldn’t have the drugs at all. The government is causing the high prices.

Wrong. Development of drugs is paid for by government subsidy. With research done through universities. Not one single private company is needed for the development or manufacture of medicines.

Private companies are an added cost due to the requirement of profits for shareholders. Get big corporate profit out of the way, the drugs are a tenth or less of what they currently cost, which every developed nation n the world other than the US prove every day.

 

[pknopp]

Hilarious how Trump plays the Leftards. They are even attacking Americans being able to buy lower cost prescriptions.

We can't buy lower cost prescriptions from other countries.

 

[charwin95]

It should cause some concern when you're wanting cheaper drugs but the only way to get them cheaper is after they ship them to a foreign country first.

Now, this is the post of the week.

If they are indeed being made here, and I do not know that for certain, they do actually manufacture drugs in Canada as well, why are they so much cheaper there?

As a side note it's something I've been watching closely for about six months.

My wife needs medication that costs 15k a month. My company is self insured. They never complained about it but obviously a concern. They offered us a trip to the Cayman's, all expenses paid. Flights, hotel, car rental, food allowance, even some entertainment money and I get paid for the time to go there and get a six month prescription filled. They showed me the total costs. 90k versus all of that for right at 35k. Her doctors were all for it, same drugs, same testing, same everything. She can't fly just yet so we are going to revisit this in six months. But seriously, WTF.

Hi Mike, I know we have political differences but can we set aside that for a while if you don’t mind.

My cousin is a kidney transplant patient from Cedars Sinai for almost 6 years. They prescribe him anti rejection called Belatacept (Nulojix) cost $15k per infusion every month and 30 minutes per session. That doesn’t include the hospital and the doctor. This is not available in other countries or other part of US.

I’m in the medical instruments business and I’ve been to Cayman few times. There’s nothing for me to invest there. No market except very good banking system and tourism.

Your employer is very nice to give you that kind of offer. I’m not sure how big is your employer that they can easily absorb $15k a month.
But I’m just wondering why Caymans? when it’s not the center where unique kinds of medications are available. I didn’t even see that many drug stores and with only few hospitals. If it’s available in Cayman it should be available somewhere. They don’t even manufacture drugs in Cayman. People there with severe sickness flew to Cuba or US for treatment not the other way around.

I think your wife has a very serious kinds of ailments. And I’m very surprised your wife doctor gave you that kind of options. Does he or she have another patient that took that route? How does he/she knows it’s the the same?
Have you research other places where this medication is available? They always say it’s the same but there’s always something different.
I’m not sure if you want to take all that risk.

She had a bone marrow transplant. She does hospital treatments once a month and yeah that’s not cheap either but is taking daily meds in pill form.

Her team (3 doctors) took about a week to look into it and approved it once she is clear to travel. They said it’s becoming more common. They call it medical tourism. It’s not like a hospital visit they tell me. It’s really just some doctor does a quick physical and signs off on her doctors prescription. Takes less than an hour I’m told.

Why the Caymans? I have no idea why they go are sending people there. We would be the third ones to go from my company and the others say it works out just fine for them. They get a few days vacation in a nice place and the company saves money so it’s a win win for everyone. Our medical plan is so good I’m willing to work with them to make sure they keep doing it.

My one concern was coming through customs with six months of drugs in my bag. But they don’t do that. They mail it to you every two weeks just like they do now.

I think it’s safe then if your company has done that before but for me I would not even let them touch my toe nail if I have an infection.

It’s very strange why Cayman when medications are flown in to Cayman not made in Cayman.
I think Missouri is closer to Cayman than Toronto, Canada.
Cayman is a very nice place for a vacation with nice folks, food, crystal clear beaches and weather.

 

[charwin95]

You are missing something big there Mario.

Americans has been buying drugs from Canada and Mexico for a long time. Some are already coming from India and Asia.
So there’s nothing spectacular here. NOTHING.

And it took him more than 2 years to accomplish that? WOW. While he is so busy with his buddies Putin and Kim Jung? Give us a break.

But at least he has to do something. Rather than sending those irresponsible tweets.

If it was so fucking obvious why wasn’t it in obiecare?

Obama is no longer the potus. Stick with the topic.

No defense for your stupidity. Noted.








Jack off.

Why the fuck people like you cannot have a decent conversation?
Obviously you are so fucking inhumane that you always have to bring out something that has nothing to do with with the topic?

You are just a poorly informed ignorant Trump supporter. What the fuck do you know anyway?
You adore and gave so much credit for this Trump a racist piece of shit.

Now you can start this war with me if you want. But I’m so sick and tired with low class people like you and others here when nothing to counter act ....... they show their bastard attitude.

Fuck off with that shit. Before obiecare I had a thousand dollar deductible. After it was 5 thousand. So yeah I’ll point out the asshole who pushed this shit and his prick cohorts in the democrat party all fucking day whether it hurts your feelings or not.

No it’s not that you hurt my feelings but normally when people change the topic ...... they tend deflect.

Topic is about meds from Canada. Obama has nothing to do with this topic.