Wind Power, is Germany waking up to no lights on?

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MEASURED lower temperatures at the solar farms says the effect of solar farms is a net cooling

It only says that it's easier to move heat away from the panels than from the bare ground.

Not that the panels cool the planet.

Actually it says daytime temperatures above the solar farms are 2C cooler and at night time the temperatures are unchanged. If you can't understand what this means and that this measurement takes everything into account, I can't help you. That makes you as dumb as EMH.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Replacing the source of electricity generation doesn't change the usage of electricity. It only changes the source. So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

So if you are going to state my position, get it right.

If you turn solar radiation into electricity, does the electricity end up creating the same amount of warming?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Actually it says daytime temperatures above the solar farms are 2C cooler and at night time the temperatures are unchanged. If you can't understand what this means and that this measurement takes everything into account, I can't help you. That makes you as dumb as EMH.

Actually it says daytime temperatures above the solar farms are 2C cooler and at night time the temperatures are unchanged.

Ok. So what?

 

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If you turn solar radiation into electricity, does the electricity end up creating the same amount of warming?

If you can't understand this then you are dumber than EMH. This is about as simple as it gets.

Replacing the source of electricity generation doesn't change the usage of electricity. It only changes the source. So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

 

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Actually it says daytime temperatures above the solar farms are 2C cooler and at night time the temperatures are unchanged.

Ok. So what?

So if you can't understand what this means and that this measurement takes everything into account, I can't help you. That makes you as dumb as EMH.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you can't understand this then you are dumber than EMH. This is about as simple as it gets.

Replacing the source of electricity generation doesn't change the usage of electricity. It only changes the source. So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

You're reducing the amount of solar radiation reflected back to space.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So if you can't understand what this means and that this measurement takes everything into account, I can't help you. That makes you as dumb as EMH.

Does it mean the energy from the solar radiation disappeared?

 

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Does it mean the energy from the solar radiation disappeared?

It means that replacing the source of electricity generation doesn't change the usage of electricity. It only changes the source. So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

 

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So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

You're reducing the amount of solar radiation reflected back to space.

Satellite measurements above 116 solar farms says otherwise which is why it is 2C cooler during the daytime.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It means that replacing the source of electricity generation doesn't change the usage of electricity. It only changes the source. So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

Converting solar radiation to electricity doesn't reduce the heating the solar radiation causes.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Merkel will go down in history for all of the wrong reasons. She set back both Germany and female leadership.

 

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Converting solar radiation to electricity doesn't reduce the heating the solar radiation causes.

Again... Replacing the source of electricity generation doesn't change the usage of electricity. It only changes the source. So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

 

[EMH]

Obviously Sun energy absorbed by solar panels and converted to electricity is a minute reduction of Sun energy warming Earth. At the same time, the electricity produced likely causes something to warm like a light bulb or an electric oven....

Two sides, only one considered by the above two faux skeptics...

 

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Obviously Sun energy absorbed by solar panels and converted to electricity is a minute reduction of Sun energy warming Earth.

Not if they do enough of it.

1. 40 to 44% of solar radiation striking solar panels is in the visible light spectrum.
2. 15 to 20% of visible light striking solar panels is converted into electricity.
3. Per square meter solar panels effectively reduce the 240 W/m² striking it by: 240 W/m² x 0.44 x 0.2 = 21.12 W/m²
4. The land surface of the planet is 149 million square kilometers or 1.49x10^14 m²
5. The solar radiation striking the land surface of the planet is 240 W/m² x 1.49x10^14 m² = 3.5760x10^16 W
6. The reduction needed to make the planet net cooling is 0.7 W/m² x 1.49x10^14 m² = 1.0430x10^14 W
7. So the number of square meters of solar panels needed to change the planet from net warming to net cooling is 1.0430x10^14 W / 21.12 W/m² = 4.9384x10^12 m²
8. The percentage of land surface needed to change the planet from net warming to net cooling is 4.9384x10^12 m² / 1.49x10^14 m²= 0.0331 or 3.31%.

 

[EMH]

The reduction needed to make the planet net cooling

Planet Earth is not warming.

Sincerely,

Surface Air Pressure
highly correlated satellite and balloon ACTUAL data
Hurricanes not breaking out or increasing
No Ocean Rise
No Ongoing Net Ice Melt

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Again... Replacing the source of electricity generation doesn't change the usage of electricity. It only changes the source. So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.

Capturing solar radiation doesn't reduce the heating that solar radiation causes.
Striking a panel instead of striking the Earth still warms the Earth.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not if they do enough of it.

1. 40 to 44% of solar radiation striking solar panels is in the visible light spectrum.
2. 15 to 20% of visible light striking solar panels is converted into electricity.
3. Per square meter solar panels effectively reduce the 240 W/m² striking it by: 240 W/m² x 0.44 x 0.2 = 21.12 W/m²
4. The land surface of the planet is 149 million square kilometers or 1.49x10^14 m²
5. The solar radiation striking the land surface of the planet is 240 W/m² x 1.49x10^14 m² = 3.5760x10^16 W
6. The reduction needed to make the planet net cooling is 0.7 W/m² x 1.49x10^14 m² = 1.0430x10^14 W
7. So the number of square meters of solar panels needed to change the planet from net warming to net cooling is 1.0430x10^14 W / 21.12 W/m² = 4.9384x10^12 m²
8. The percentage of land surface needed to change the planet from net warming to net cooling is 4.9384x10^12 m² / 1.49x10^14 m²= 0.0331 or 3.31%.

1. 15 to 20% of visible light striking solar panels is converted into electricity.

And pretty much 100% of that electricity is converted back into heat.

 

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Planet Earth is not warming.

Sincerely,

Surface Air Pressure
highly correlated satellite and balloon ACTUAL data
Hurricanes not breaking out or increasing
No Ocean Rise
No Ongoing Net Ice Melt

For the past 3 million years it warms every time the northern hemisphere deglaciates after a glacial period has ended.

 

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Capturing solar radiation doesn't reduce the heating that solar radiation causes.
Striking a panel instead of striking the Earth still warms the Earth.

Satellite measurements above 116 solar farms says otherwise.

 

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1. 15 to 20% of visible light striking solar panels is converted into electricity.

And pretty much 100% of that electricity is converted back into heat.

Replacing the source of electricity generation doesn't change the usage of electricity. It only changes the source. So replacing a source which doesn't capture solar radiation with a source that does capture solar radiation results in a net reduction of solar radiation striking the earth.