CDZ Will Vaccinated People Be More Vulnerable to Variants?

[Turtlesoup]

Grumblenuts It was a bullshit claim that Trump was advocating for bleach to be injected into anyone---all spin

 

[jc456]

Well that's false

What’s false?

 

[badger2]

There’s a technology coming along that will change what the Delta variant may be able to do, though as usual, is being flaunted as unique. Some authors to follow are here:

May 2019
Structural topology defines protective CD8 + T cell epitopes in the HIV proteome - PubMed

The problematic is that the longer the unvaccinated go unvaccinated, the less safe are the vaccinees.

 

[jc456]

badger2 hahaha hahaha can’t shame us with bull

 

[Mark Richard]

fncceo I never got vaccinated ever in my life. Nothing I know of at least. Maybe I did when I was a kid but since then in my adult life I never got vaccinated. I wonder what it's like

 

[Mark Richard]

phoenyx so people in Africa should not get the covid vaccine is what you're saying?

 

[Dusty]

My mother sent me the link to this article that was just published today on Mercola.com. Here's their "story at a glance version":

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Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola Fact Checked

April 19, 2021

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

• Experts have raised warnings about the problematic history of coronavirus vaccines and their propensity to produce antibody‐dependent enhancement (ADE), which could make vaccinated individuals more susceptible to infection by SARS-CoV-2 or its variants
• An October 2020 paper stressed that “COVID‐19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralizing antibodies may sensitize vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated,” and criticized vaccine makers for not clearly informing participants in current vaccine trials of this risk
• Vaccinated individuals do appear to be more susceptible to infection by certain variants of SARS-CoV-2, although it remains to be seen whether they are more prone to serious illness
• Israeli researchers compared 400 individuals who had tested positive for the South African B.1.351 SARS-CoV-2 variant after receiving at least one dose of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine against 400 unvaccinated individuals who had been infected. Among those who received two doses of the vaccine, the variant was eight times more prevalent than in unvaccinated individuals (5.4% compared to 0.7%)
• By analyzing blood samples, a second study found Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine was 6.8 times less effective against the South African B.1.351 variant compared to generic strains of the virus

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Full article here:

Find Out What Experts Are Saying About the COVID Shots

As soon as COVID vaccines were announced, doctors, scientists, researchers and other experts have been voicing their concerns about them. Find out why.

articles.mercola.com

Some may have caught on to the fact that the Israeli study they're referring to is one I created a thread about on Wednesday:

CDZ - Pfizer Vaccine May Put People at Higher Risk for COVID Variants, Israeli Study Shows

Found this article today over at RFK Jr.'s Children's Health Defense website. Just published yesterday, think it's quite interesting. Constructive feedback welcome. ** Israeli researchers found people who received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine were eight times more likely to be infected with...

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2 other posters here have also created threads that touch on some of the same themes:

Reverse Transcription And Vaxxing--Is This A Threat?

This is a lengthy read if you don't skip lines. It is thought provoking concerning the possible long term effects of corona virus vaccines and their ability to permanently alter our DNA. In some cases, the immunity to future infection by a corona virus may be reversed making the consequences...

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Could mRNA Vaccines Permanently Alter DNA? Recent Science Suggests They Might.

The true meaning of it you gonna die if you accept the 'jab' of Gates. Schwab & Co Research on SARS-CoV-2 RNA by scientists at Harvard and MIT has implications for how mRNA vaccines could permanently alter genomic DNA, according to Doug Corrigan, Ph.D., a biochemist-molecular biologist who says...

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No because sooner rather than later the vaccinated people will be dead

 

[candycorn]

No.

We're seeing very few vaccinated persons presenting with re-infection for Covid; variant or not.

 

[Mark Richard]

Dusty That's more than half the population. I don't believe it

 

[Dusty]

Dusty That's more than half the population. I don't believe it

Actually everybody dies, it is just a matter of when and how

 

[jc456]

fncceo I never got vaccinated ever in my life. Nothing I know of at least. Maybe I did when I was a kid but since then in my adult life I never got vaccinated. I wonder what it's like

Druggies doing drugs

 

[Mark Richard]

jc456 Hookers hooking

 

[sartre play]

Mercola is not even a MD.

 

[MarathonMike]

fncceo Why did the flu all but disappear last year? Did everyone and their sister line up for flu shots or was something else going on?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If I had a dollar for every time a lefty claimed to have posted an answer to what he is evading, I'd be rich.

And if i had a penny for every time an embarrassing Trump cultist dishonestly asked a loaded question then cried like a little baby because he was not spoonfed the answer that he sought for self affirmation, i would be rich.

 

[Dusty]

If I had a dollar for every time a lefty claimed to have posted an answer to what he is evading, I'd be rich.

And if i had a penny for every time an embarrassing Trump cultist dishonestly asked a loaded question then cried like a little baby because he was not spoonfed the answer that he sought for self affirmation, i would be rich.

Poor baby

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Mercola is not even a MD.

Nor has he ever conducted or published any research. He is a lying conman who makes money off of people's fear and ignorance by pushing homeopathic and anti-vaxx garbage. Literally his entire career is propped up by false propaganda.

Homeopathy is the biggest ongoing scam in medicine. Everyone who knows anything knows this, unless they are insane. If not for an archaic law (that will hopefully be overturned in our lifetimes), the claims made on packaging on homeopathic products would be illegal.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Grumblenuts It was a bullshit claim that Trump was advocating for bleach to be injected into anyone---all spin

Hmm, not really. He was standing in front of a chart describing effects of bleach and other disinfectants, talked about the disinfectants, then speculated on injecting them. As Trump has the vocabulary of a 9 year old, one is left wondering whether he meant "all disinfectants besides bleach" or "bleach included". So the natural assumptions that followed are the fault of the orange moron and his tenuous grasp on the english language, coupled with a position of leadership he should never have even sniffed.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

fncceo Why did the flu all but disappear last year? Did everyone and their sister line up for flu shots or was something else going on?

The experts say it is probably due to the safety measures undertaken for covid. You remember those, right?

 

[Dusty]

fncceo Why did the flu all but disappear last year? Did everyone and their sister line up for flu shots or was something else going on?

The experts say it is probably due to the safety measures undertaken for covid. You remember those, right?

the safety measures will increase COPD levels 1000 times