Will the National GOP learn from Virginia?

How about refuting his point?

We had our greatest prosperity when we had a vibrant, unionized middle class, and the wealthy paid their fair share.

Except we didn't . All our economic prosperity happens in the brief periods of when we don't use socialism

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Guy, put down the Obamaphone and get to a computer where you can actually do some research.

Or better yet, read a book.

Greatest period of American Prosperity- 1945-1975.

Full employment
Burgeoning middle class.
High Taxes on the Rich.
33% of the work force unionized.
Moms could stay home if they wanted.
Built hiways and put men in space and even fought a pointless war or two.

Oh yea, and there were unicorns and lolipops as well. It is a shame Doc Brown is dead, I want to get my hands on that DeLorean.

But in all serious, after you bomb all of Europe to oblivion in WW2, you can pretty much do any hair-brained economic policy you want, and still be the Top Dog.

We live in a different world today buddy.
 
Except we didn't . All our economic prosperity happens in the brief periods of when we don't use socialism

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Guy, put down the Obamaphone and get to a computer where you can actually do some research.

Or better yet, read a book.

Greatest period of American Prosperity- 1945-1975.

Full employment
Burgeoning middle class.
High Taxes on the Rich.
33% of the work force unionized.
Moms could stay home if they wanted.
Built hiways and put men in space and even fought a pointless war or two.

Oh yea, and there were unicorns and lolipops as well. It is a shame Doc Brown is dead, I want to get my hands on that DeLorean.

But in all serious, after you bomb all of Europe to oblivion in WW2, you can pretty much do any hair-brained economic policy you want, and still be the Top Dog.

We live in a different world today buddy.

You are right, we do.

We stopped doing all the things that worked, let the wealthy have everything they want, and we discovered the same thing that we discovered before world war II.

"The problem with Capitalism is Capitalists... they're too damned greedy." - Herbert Hoover.
 
How about refuting his point?

We had our greatest prosperity when we had a vibrant, unionized middle class, and the wealthy paid their fair share.

Except we didn't . All our economic prosperity happens in the brief periods of when we don't use socialism

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Guy, put down the Obamaphone and get to a computer where you can actually do some research.

Or better yet, read a book.

Greatest period of American Prosperity- 1945-1975.

Full employment
Burgeoning middle class.
High Taxes on the Rich.
33% of the work force unionized.
Moms could stay home if they wanted.
Built hiways and put men in space and even fought a pointless war or two.

The reason why we shifted away from your mythical Worker's Paradise era is because by the end of that time period, unemployment was 9% and inflation was 12%. A new word was created to describe it - "stagflation."

That you think the prosperity of that time period was somehow linked to high taxes on the rich and unionization, not to mention your ridiculous belief that people were better off 50 years ago than they are today, highlights your ignorance once again.
 
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Except we didn't . All our economic prosperity happens in the brief periods of when we don't use socialism

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Guy, put down the Obamaphone and get to a computer where you can actually do some research.

Or better yet, read a book.

Greatest period of American Prosperity- 1945-1975.

Full employment
Burgeoning middle class.
High Taxes on the Rich.
33% of the work force unionized.
Moms could stay home if they wanted.
Built hiways and put men in space and even fought a pointless war or two.

The reason why we shifted away from your mythical Worker's Paradise era is because by the end of that time period, unemployment was 9% and inflation was 12%. A new word was created to describe it - "stagflation."

That you think the prosperity of that time period was somehow linked to high taxes on the rich and unionization, not to mention your ridiculous belief that people were better off 50 years ago than they are today, highlights your ignorance once again.

Tojo, the thing was, the way Carter combatted the inflation was the same way Reagan did- keep the money encourage unemployment until the inflation got down.

Reagan also took the time to screw unions and give huge tax breaks to the Rich Douchebags, neither of which did us any good.

Thing is, had we not done those things, we wouldn't have been in the mess we are today with 16 trillion dollars of debt because it's easier to borrow than to get the rich to pay their fair share.
 
Guy, put down the Obamaphone and get to a computer where you can actually do some research.

Or better yet, read a book.

Greatest period of American Prosperity- 1945-1975.

Full employment
Burgeoning middle class.
High Taxes on the Rich.
33% of the work force unionized.
Moms could stay home if they wanted.
Built hiways and put men in space and even fought a pointless war or two.

The reason why we shifted away from your mythical Worker's Paradise era is because by the end of that time period, unemployment was 9% and inflation was 12%. A new word was created to describe it - "stagflation."

That you think the prosperity of that time period was somehow linked to high taxes on the rich and unionization, not to mention your ridiculous belief that people were better off 50 years ago than they are today, highlights your ignorance once again.

Tojo, the thing was, the way Carter combatted the inflation was the same way Reagan did- keep the money encourage unemployment until the inflation got down.

Reagan also took the time to screw unions and give huge tax breaks to the Rich Douchebags, neither of which did us any good.

Thing is, had we not done those things, we wouldn't have been in the mess we are today with 16 trillion dollars of debt because it's easier to borrow than to get the rich to pay their fair share.

ROFL what an idiot. Tax revenues went up you dolt. Do you want high tax "revenues" or high tax "rates?" Why are libtards so damn stupid?
 
That he BARELY won speaks volumes. Yeah, we learned a lot.

That in a swing state, voters would rather have a corrupt Democrat has-been than a Tea Party standard-bearer.

Reality hurts sometimes.

meanwhile; he got crushed via media spending, especially in the last 2 weeks, was down by 14 points a month earlier, and Voters today were more likely to say Cuccinelli was found to be “too conservative” (50 percent), McAuliffe is “too liberal” (41 percent), Cuccinelli is not very telegenic or 'personable' , etc etc etc ..... yet Cucc. won indies by 9%......

Its also obvious, due to Northern Virginians being almost wholly creatures of the beltway, no shutdown(?), ole terry would have been goner.

If dems see this as some transformative or benchmark victory they are whistling past the graveyard.

And no I am not looking past the fact the gop will learn anything here, they may not, *shrugs* but, they have larger measure of margin of error now due to...Obamacare;)
 
The reason why we shifted away from your mythical Worker's Paradise era is because by the end of that time period, unemployment was 9% and inflation was 12%. A new word was created to describe it - "stagflation."

That you think the prosperity of that time period was somehow linked to high taxes on the rich and unionization, not to mention your ridiculous belief that people were better off 50 years ago than they are today, highlights your ignorance once again.

Tojo, the thing was, the way Carter combatted the inflation was the same way Reagan did- keep the money encourage unemployment until the inflation got down.

Reagan also took the time to screw unions and give huge tax breaks to the Rich Douchebags, neither of which did us any good.

Thing is, had we not done those things, we wouldn't have been in the mess we are today with 16 trillion dollars of debt because it's easier to borrow than to get the rich to pay their fair share.

ROFL what an idiot. Tax revenues went up you dolt. Do you want high tax "revenues" or high tax "rates?" Why are libtards so damn stupid?

So the Gipper's people didn't use "fuzzy math"? :eusa_eh: Stockman, former Director of OMB under Reagan, would differ w/ you there :eusa_whistle: :laugh:

David Stockman: How Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes and their GOP Demolished the Economy - David Stockman on Deficit Spending
Taking Stockman: How Nixon, Reagan, Bush and their GOP Demolished the Economy

Reagan knew it. So did Stockman. So did their guru, Friederich von Hayek. The deficits were intentional all along. They were edsigned to “starve the beast,” meaning intentionally cut revenue as a way of pressuring Congress to cut the New Deal programs Reagan wanted to demolish. “The plan,” Stockman told Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan at the time, ” was to have a strategic deficit that would give you an argument for cutting back the programs that weren’t desired. It got out of hand.”

Von Hayek is quoted in the next paragraph agreeing w/ what Stockman said :rofl:
 
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Tojo, the thing was, the way Carter combatted the inflation was the same way Reagan did- keep the money encourage unemployment until the inflation got down.

Reagan also took the time to screw unions and give huge tax breaks to the Rich Douchebags, neither of which did us any good.

Thing is, had we not done those things, we wouldn't have been in the mess we are today with 16 trillion dollars of debt because it's easier to borrow than to get the rich to pay their fair share.

ROFL what an idiot. Tax revenues went up you dolt. Do you want high tax "revenues" or high tax "rates?" Why are libtards so damn stupid?

So the Gipper's people didn't use "fuzzy math"? :eusa_eh: Stockman, former Director of OMB under Reagan, would differ w/ you there :eusa_whistle: :laugh:

David Stockman: How Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes and their GOP Demolished the Economy - David Stockman on Deficit Spending
Taking Stockman: How Nixon, Reagan, Bush and their GOP Demolished the Economy

Reagan knew it. So did Stockman. So did their guru, Friederich von Hayek. The deficits were intentional all along. They were edsigned to “starve the beast,” meaning intentionally cut revenue as a way of pressuring Congress to cut the New Deal programs Reagan wanted to demolish. “The plan,” Stockman told Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan at the time, ” was to have a strategic deficit that would give you an argument for cutting back the programs that weren’t desired. It got out of hand.”

Von Hayek is quoted in the next paragraph agreeing w/ what Stockman said :rofl:

What a lying POS you are.

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We have a spending problem not a revenue problem.
 
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my bad, I got "fuzzy math" confused w/ "voodoo (supply side) economics". ;) Here:

Supply-side economics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Andrew Samwick, who was Chief Economist on Bush's Council of Economic Advisers from 2003–2004 responded to the claim:

You are smart people. You know that the tax cuts have not fueled record revenues. You know what it takes to establish causality. You know that the first order effect of cutting taxes is to lower tax revenues. We all agree that the ultimate reduction in tax revenues can be less than this first order effect, because lower tax rates encourage greater economic activity and thus expand the tax base. No thoughtful person believes that this possible offset more than compensated for the first effect for these tax cuts. Not a single one

:boohoo:
 
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Guy, put down the Obamaphone and get to a computer where you can actually do some research.

Or better yet, read a book.

Greatest period of American Prosperity- 1945-1975.

Full employment
Burgeoning middle class.
High Taxes on the Rich.
33% of the work force unionized.
Moms could stay home if they wanted.
Built hiways and put men in space and even fought a pointless war or two.

Oh yea, and there were unicorns and lolipops as well. It is a shame Doc Brown is dead, I want to get my hands on that DeLorean.

But in all serious, after you bomb all of Europe to oblivion in WW2, you can pretty much do any hair-brained economic policy you want, and still be the Top Dog.

We live in a different world today buddy.

You are right, we do.

We stopped doing all the things that worked, let the wealthy have everything they want, and we discovered the same thing that we discovered before world war II.

"The problem with Capitalism is Capitalists... they're too damned greedy." - Herbert Hoover.
They wouldn't work in today's world. In the 50s, there was no China, no Japan, no India, no South Korea, No Russia, no Germany, and by extension no EU to compete with as they were all leveled during World War Two(and thus rebuilding) or still third world economies. America had no competitors, so it could afford to make itself uncompetitive and feel no adverse effects. That simply wouldn't be the case in a globalized economy.
 
He a POS Troll. I don't think I've seen him post anything but...

The pos white reactionary entitlement TeaPoCraps are not mainstream.

They are extremists who will not serve our country in the American way

in the American way......in the American way........hummmmmmm

Is that where half the population feeds and insures the other?.

You want to prove that stupidity of a comment, Contumacious? You have facts and evidence?

Didn't think so.
 
The pos white reactionary entitlement TeaPoCraps are not mainstream.

They are extremists who will not serve our country in the American way

in the American way......in the American way........hummmmmmm

Is that where half the population feeds and insures the other?.

You want to prove that stupidity of a comment, Contumacious? You have facts and evidence?

Didn't think so.

Prove him wrong Fakie

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ROFL what an idiot. Tax revenues went up you dolt. Do you want high tax "revenues" or high tax "rates?" Why are libtards so damn stupid?

Tax revenues didn't go up until Reagan agreed to the "Tax Reform" act of 1986 that scaled back some of the tax cuts and eliminated a lot of tax deductions the middle class was using.

That's why Bush had to issue his "Read My Lips" pledge that he eventually broke. Reagan raised taxes.
 
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They wouldn't work in today's world. In the 50s, there was no China, no Japan, no India, no South Korea, No Russia, no Germany, and by extension no EU to compete with as they were all leveled during World War Two(and thus rebuilding) or still third world economies. America had no competitors, so it could afford to make itself uncompetitive and feel no adverse effects. That simply wouldn't be the case in a globalized economy.

Um, guess what, I checked a 1950 map, and all those countries were on it. Except Russia was called the USSR back then. ANd there were two Germanies. But other than that, all those countries were on the map.

The problem with a globalized economy is that we let people who don't play by the rules play.

We need to dump "Free Trade" and institute "Fair Trade". If you are being more competitive by killing your own people, we aren't going to trade with you.

It seems kind of sensible, really.
 

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