Will Senator Ted Cruz and “conservatives” offer real tax reform this coming election?

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With the 2014 election just around the corner “conservatives” have the opportunity to win the hearts and minds of the American people by offering real tax reform. Have most Americans not witnessed the progressive’s disastrous and slavish experiment associated with the 16th Amendment and taxes levied on incomes without apportionment? Have we not recently seen how this very tax has been used during election time to punish and harass those who dare to speak out and against our despotic federal government? Have we not also witnessed for generations how this despicable tax is used by our federal government to not only redistribute the paychecks of America’s hard working productive citizens to fund Washington’s “free cheese wagon”, but how it is also used to tighten the regulatory iron fist of government around the necks of Americans labor, businesses and industries?


Our founding fathers were well aware of the slavish and oppressive nature of taxes which are levied directly upon the people. In speaking of this kind of tax and the evils of an unrestrained power to impose direct taxes, Representative Williams during a debate on Direct Taxes on January 18th, 1797 warns his colleagues:


"History, Mr. Williams said, informed them of the annihilation of nations by means of direct taxation. He referred gentlemen to the situation of the Roman Empire in its innocence, and asked them whether they had any direct taxes? No. Indirect taxes and taxes upon luxuries and spices from the Indies were their sources of revenue; but, as soon as they changed their system to direct taxation, it operated to their ruin; their children were sold as slaves, and the Empire fell from its splendor. Shall we then follow this system? He trusted not."


Unfortunately progressives were able to con the American People in the early 1900s and convinced them to adopt the 16th Amendment. At the time progressives made their appeal to the average working person who was not to be taxed under the proposed Amendment. It was fraudulently sold to the working person as a means to get those greedy corporations to pay their “fair share” in taxes.


During the 16th Amendment debates we find Mr. HEFLIN agitated the working class people into supporting the amendment by saying “An income tax seeks to reach the unearned wealth of the country and to make it pay its share.” 44 Cong. Rec. 4420 (1909). Note the wording “unearned wealth“ as distinguished from earned wages.

And this was shortly after Mr. BARTLETT of Georgia had begun the class warfare attack by preaching to the working poor: As I see it, the fairest of all taxes is of this nature [a tax on gains, profits and unearned income], laid according to wealth, and its universal adoption would be a benign blessing to mankind. The door is shut against it, and the people must continue to groan beneath the burdens of tariff taxes and robbery under the guise of law.” 44 Cong. Rec. 4414 (1909).


But what these cunning con artists really had in mind was to create a taxing power to allow the expansion of the federal government’s manipulative iron fist over the economy which would eventually be used to also squeeze the working people’s earned wages from their pockets in a more devastating manner than any tariff had ever done, and eventually make them dependent upon government for their subsistence! But the progressives, after the adoption of the 16th Amendment, patiently waited for one generation to pass when the intentions for which the amendment was adopted would be forgotten and a war to begin before completing their mission, which was the imposition of the Temporary Victory Tax of 1942!


FDR’s class warfare tax unconstitutionally expanded taxes on “gains, profits and unearned income” to include a 5 percent “temporary” tax upon working people’s “earned wages”. And although the 16th Amendment was sold as a way to tax “unearned income”, the temporary tax on working people’s “earned wages” was sold as a patriotic necessity in the war effort.


And here we are today, 70 years later, and this thieving tax, which robs the bread which poor working people have earned by the sweat of their brow, is still to this very day being collected, and its burden has constantly increased over the years, forcing millions upon millions of poor working people into a state of poverty and then into a dependency upon government for their subsistence ___ an outcome which is needed by our corrupted political leaders to maintain a permanent and captive, dependent voting block!


Now, with this in mind the question is, with another election upon us, will Senator Ted Cruz and “conservatives” step forward and offer real tax reform, or will they do a Mark Levin “fan dance” in order to keep alive a tyrannical tax which every despotic government loves? And how may this type of taxing power be withdrawn from Congress’ reach? It can begin with “conservatives” who run for office in 2014 to propose a 32 word amendment to our Constitution which declares:


The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money


These words, if added to our Constitution, would end taxes calculated from incomes and return us to a consumption based taxing system, which is what our founders intended, and which proved to pave the way for America to become the economic marvel of the world because it held Congress’ greedy taxing appetite in check! Hamilton stresses this in Federalist No 21 with regard to taxes on articles of consumption:


“There is no method of steering clear of this inconvenience, but by authorizing the national government to raise its own revenues in its own way. Imposts, excises, and, in general, all duties upon articles of consumption, may be compared to a fluid, which will, in time, find its level with the means of paying them. The amount to be contributed by each citizen will in a degree be at his own option, and can be regulated by an attention to his resources. The rich may be extravagant, the poor can be frugal; and private oppression may always be avoided by a judicious selection of objects proper for such impositions. If inequalities should arise in some States from duties on particular objects, these will, in all probability, be counter balanced by proportional inequalities in other States, from the duties on other objects. In the course of time and things, an equilibrium, as far as it is attainable in so complicated a subject, will be established everywhere. Or, if inequalities should still exist, they would neither be so great in their degree, so uniform in their operation, nor so odious in their appearance, as those which would necessarily spring from quotas, upon any scale that can possibly be devised.


It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit; which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed, that is, an extension of the revenue. When applied to this object, the saying is as just as it is witty, that, "in political arithmetic, two and two do not always make four .'' If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them.”



I suspect if “conservatives” running for office this coming election unite in an agreement to send the above 32 word amendment to the States for ratification if they are elected, it will not only verify they are true conservatives who want to return to our nation’s founding principles which includes its original tax plan, but they are willing to confront the existing Washington establishment head on which now thrives from and worships the socialist/progressive inspired tax calculated from profits, gains and other incomes.


JWK


“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.
 
Will Senator Ted Cruz and “conservatives” offer real tax reform this coming election?

NO!

They have to cater to the far left. Not possible, maybe after 2014 elections, but I doubt it even then.

Are you saying this about Senator Ted Cruz and "conservatives"?


JWK




Are you really ok with 45 percent of our nation’s population who pay no taxes on incomes being allowed to vote for representatives who spend federal revenue which the remaining 55 percent of our nation’s hard working and productive population has contributed into our federal treasury via taxes on incomes ?

 
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With the 2014 election just around the corner “conservatives” have the opportunity to win the hearts and minds of the American people by offering real tax reform. Have most Americans not witnessed the progressive’s disastrous and slavish experiment associated with the 16th Amendment and taxes levied on incomes without apportionment? Have we not recently seen how this very tax has been used during election time to punish and harass those who dare to speak out and against our despotic federal government? Have we not also witnessed for generations how this despicable tax is used by our federal government to not only redistribute the paychecks of America’s hard working productive citizens to fund Washington’s “free cheese wagon”, but how it is also used to tighten the regulatory iron fist of government around the necks of Americans labor, businesses and industries?


Our founding fathers were well aware of the slavish and oppressive nature of taxes which are levied directly upon the people. In speaking of this kind of tax and the evils of an unrestrained power to impose direct taxes, Representative Williams during a debate on Direct Taxes on January 18th, 1797 warns his colleagues:


"History, Mr. Williams said, informed them of the annihilation of nations by means of direct taxation. He referred gentlemen to the situation of the Roman Empire in its innocence, and asked them whether they had any direct taxes? No. Indirect taxes and taxes upon luxuries and spices from the Indies were their sources of revenue; but, as soon as they changed their system to direct taxation, it operated to their ruin; their children were sold as slaves, and the Empire fell from its splendor. Shall we then follow this system? He trusted not."


Unfortunately progressives were able to con the American People in the early 1900s and convinced them to adopt the 16th Amendment. At the time progressives made their appeal to the average working person who was not to be taxed under the proposed Amendment. It was fraudulently sold to the working person as a means to get those greedy corporations to pay their “fair share” in taxes.


During the 16th Amendment debates we find Mr. HEFLIN agitated the working class people into supporting the amendment by saying “An income tax seeks to reach the unearned wealth of the country and to make it pay its share.” 44 Cong. Rec. 4420 (1909). Note the wording “unearned wealth“ as distinguished from earned wages.

And this was shortly after Mr. BARTLETT of Georgia had begun the class warfare attack by preaching to the working poor: As I see it, the fairest of all taxes is of this nature [a tax on gains, profits and unearned income], laid according to wealth, and its universal adoption would be a benign blessing to mankind. The door is shut against it, and the people must continue to groan beneath the burdens of tariff taxes and robbery under the guise of law.” 44 Cong. Rec. 4414 (1909).


But what these cunning con artists really had in mind was to create a taxing power to allow the expansion of the federal government’s manipulative iron fist over the economy which would eventually be used to also squeeze the working people’s earned wages from their pockets in a more devastating manner than any tariff had ever done, and eventually make them dependent upon government for their subsistence! But the progressives, after the adoption of the 16th Amendment, patiently waited for one generation to pass when the intentions for which the amendment was adopted would be forgotten and a war to begin before completing their mission, which was the imposition of the Temporary Victory Tax of 1942!


FDR’s class warfare tax unconstitutionally expanded taxes on “gains, profits and unearned income” to include a 5 percent “temporary” tax upon working people’s “earned wages”. And although the 16th Amendment was sold as a way to tax “unearned income”, the temporary tax on working people’s “earned wages” was sold as a patriotic necessity in the war effort.


And here we are today, 70 years later, and this thieving tax, which robs the bread which poor working people have earned by the sweat of their brow, is still to this very day being collected, and its burden has constantly increased over the years, forcing millions upon millions of poor working people into a state of poverty and then into a dependency upon government for their subsistence ___ an outcome which is needed by our corrupted political leaders to maintain a permanent and captive, dependent voting block!


Now, with this in mind the question is, with another election upon us, will Senator Ted Cruz and “conservatives” step forward and offer real tax reform, or will they do a Mark Levin “fan dance” in order to keep alive a tyrannical tax which every despotic government loves? And how may this type of taxing power be withdrawn from Congress’ reach? It can begin with “conservatives” who run for office in 2014 to propose a 32 word amendment to our Constitution which declares:


The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money


These words, if added to our Constitution, would end taxes calculated from incomes and return us to a consumption based taxing system, which is what our founders intended, and which proved to pave the way for America to become the economic marvel of the world because it held Congress’ greedy taxing appetite in check! Hamilton stresses this in Federalist No 21 with regard to taxes on articles of consumption:


“There is no method of steering clear of this inconvenience, but by authorizing the national government to raise its own revenues in its own way. Imposts, excises, and, in general, all duties upon articles of consumption, may be compared to a fluid, which will, in time, find its level with the means of paying them. The amount to be contributed by each citizen will in a degree be at his own option, and can be regulated by an attention to his resources. The rich may be extravagant, the poor can be frugal; and private oppression may always be avoided by a judicious selection of objects proper for such impositions. If inequalities should arise in some States from duties on particular objects, these will, in all probability, be counter balanced by proportional inequalities in other States, from the duties on other objects. In the course of time and things, an equilibrium, as far as it is attainable in so complicated a subject, will be established everywhere. Or, if inequalities should still exist, they would neither be so great in their degree, so uniform in their operation, nor so odious in their appearance, as those which would necessarily spring from quotas, upon any scale that can possibly be devised.


It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit; which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed, that is, an extension of the revenue. When applied to this object, the saying is as just as it is witty, that, "in political arithmetic, two and two do not always make four .'' If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them.”



I suspect if “conservatives” running for office this coming election unite in an agreement to send the above 32 word amendment to the States for ratification if they are elected, it will not only verify they are true conservatives who want to return to our nation’s founding principles which includes its original tax plan, but they are willing to confront the existing Washington establishment head on which now thrives from and worships the socialist/progressive inspired tax calculated from profits, gains and other incomes.


JWK


“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.


Do you live in LaLa Land or on Fantasy Island? Just curious.

Repeal the 16th. Way to start a new year with stupidity.
 
Remember when the Obama administration claimed the Republicans never offered any alternatives to the fraudulent single payer trojan horse known as Obamacare?

Then liberals everywhere, predictably parroted the reports by the perpetual socialist lying piece of shit MSNBC that the republicans never offered any alternatives.

Then people like me listed the vast alternatives and it turned out the liberals were dead wrong about the lying claims from the pathological lying commie in chief in the white house?

However, even after I listed in detail (time, dates and specific plans) the moronic libs on the left told me.....nanny nanny boo boo stick your head in doo doo response. Typical really.
 
Conservative tax reform always means shifting the tax burden down the income scale, not exactly a recipe for winning the hearts and minds of anyone except the rich, and they already have that.
 
Conservative tax reform always means shifting the tax burden down the income scale, not exactly a recipe for winning the hearts and minds of anyone except the rich, and they already have that.

********Leftist propaganda bullshit alert!************
 
Will Senator Ted Cruz and “conservatives” offer real tax reform this coming election?

NO!

They have to cater to the far left. Not possible, maybe after 2014 elections, but I doubt it even then.

why?

it is actually the most needed real reform which can get the tide wave for this and 2016 election - the wave which will put establishment RINO outdated garbage into the history box and clear the road for the change.

Plus that is the real necessity which can bring together a lot of different demographic groups.

Not the protected big businesses, obviously, but they are the enemies of the American citizen anyway.
 
Conservative tax reform always means shifting the tax burden down the income scale, not exactly a recipe for winning the hearts and minds of anyone except the rich, and they already have that.

********Leftist propaganda bullshit alert!************

Do you disagree or do you simply have no defense for the indefensible? Responding with that kind of childishness only tells me you are a dummy.
 
The Republican plan is to tax the middle class and let the poor starve. Seems harsh.
 
Conservative tax reform always means shifting the tax burden down the income scale, not exactly a recipe for winning the hearts and minds of anyone except the rich, and they already have that.

I have yet to see them offer a package that helps working Americans at the expense of the wealthy
 
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With the 2014 election just around the corner “conservatives” have the opportunity to win the hearts and minds of the American people by offering real tax reform. Have most Americans not witnessed the progressive’s disastrous and slavish experiment associated with the 16th Amendment and taxes levied on incomes without apportionment? Have we not recently seen how this very tax has been used during election time to punish and harass those who dare to speak out and against our despotic federal government? Have we not also witnessed for generations how this despicable tax is used by our federal government to not only redistribute the paychecks of America’s hard working productive citizens to fund Washington’s “free cheese wagon”, but how it is also used to tighten the regulatory iron fist of government around the necks of Americans labor, businesses and industries?


Our founding fathers were well aware of the slavish and oppressive nature of taxes which are levied directly upon the people. In speaking of this kind of tax and the evils of an unrestrained power to impose direct taxes, Representative Williams during a debate on Direct Taxes on January 18th, 1797 warns his colleagues:


"History, Mr. Williams said, informed them of the annihilation of nations by means of direct taxation. He referred gentlemen to the situation of the Roman Empire in its innocence, and asked them whether they had any direct taxes? No. Indirect taxes and taxes upon luxuries and spices from the Indies were their sources of revenue; but, as soon as they changed their system to direct taxation, it operated to their ruin; their children were sold as slaves, and the Empire fell from its splendor. Shall we then follow this system? He trusted not."


Unfortunately progressives were able to con the American People in the early 1900s and convinced them to adopt the 16th Amendment. At the time progressives made their appeal to the average working person who was not to be taxed under the proposed Amendment. It was fraudulently sold to the working person as a means to get those greedy corporations to pay their “fair share” in taxes.


During the 16th Amendment debates we find Mr. HEFLIN agitated the working class people into supporting the amendment by saying “An income tax seeks to reach the unearned wealth of the country and to make it pay its share.” 44 Cong. Rec. 4420 (1909). Note the wording “unearned wealth“ as distinguished from earned wages.

And this was shortly after Mr. BARTLETT of Georgia had begun the class warfare attack by preaching to the working poor: As I see it, the fairest of all taxes is of this nature [a tax on gains, profits and unearned income], laid according to wealth, and its universal adoption would be a benign blessing to mankind. The door is shut against it, and the people must continue to groan beneath the burdens of tariff taxes and robbery under the guise of law.” 44 Cong. Rec. 4414 (1909).


But what these cunning con artists really had in mind was to create a taxing power to allow the expansion of the federal government’s manipulative iron fist over the economy which would eventually be used to also squeeze the working people’s earned wages from their pockets in a more devastating manner than any tariff had ever done, and eventually make them dependent upon government for their subsistence! But the progressives, after the adoption of the 16th Amendment, patiently waited for one generation to pass when the intentions for which the amendment was adopted would be forgotten and a war to begin before completing their mission, which was the imposition of the Temporary Victory Tax of 1942!


FDR’s class warfare tax unconstitutionally expanded taxes on “gains, profits and unearned income” to include a 5 percent “temporary” tax upon working people’s “earned wages”. And although the 16th Amendment was sold as a way to tax “unearned income”, the temporary tax on working people’s “earned wages” was sold as a patriotic necessity in the war effort.


And here we are today, 70 years later, and this thieving tax, which robs the bread which poor working people have earned by the sweat of their brow, is still to this very day being collected, and its burden has constantly increased over the years, forcing millions upon millions of poor working people into a state of poverty and then into a dependency upon government for their subsistence ___ an outcome which is needed by our corrupted political leaders to maintain a permanent and captive, dependent voting block!


Now, with this in mind the question is, with another election upon us, will Senator Ted Cruz and “conservatives” step forward and offer real tax reform, or will they do a Mark Levin “fan dance” in order to keep alive a tyrannical tax which every despotic government loves? And how may this type of taxing power be withdrawn from Congress’ reach? It can begin with “conservatives” who run for office in 2014 to propose a 32 word amendment to our Constitution which declares:


The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money


These words, if added to our Constitution, would end taxes calculated from incomes and return us to a consumption based taxing system, which is what our founders intended, and which proved to pave the way for America to become the economic marvel of the world because it held Congress’ greedy taxing appetite in check! Hamilton stresses this in Federalist No 21 with regard to taxes on articles of consumption:


“There is no method of steering clear of this inconvenience, but by authorizing the national government to raise its own revenues in its own way. Imposts, excises, and, in general, all duties upon articles of consumption, may be compared to a fluid, which will, in time, find its level with the means of paying them. The amount to be contributed by each citizen will in a degree be at his own option, and can be regulated by an attention to his resources. The rich may be extravagant, the poor can be frugal; and private oppression may always be avoided by a judicious selection of objects proper for such impositions. If inequalities should arise in some States from duties on particular objects, these will, in all probability, be counter balanced by proportional inequalities in other States, from the duties on other objects. In the course of time and things, an equilibrium, as far as it is attainable in so complicated a subject, will be established everywhere. Or, if inequalities should still exist, they would neither be so great in their degree, so uniform in their operation, nor so odious in their appearance, as those which would necessarily spring from quotas, upon any scale that can possibly be devised.


It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit; which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed, that is, an extension of the revenue. When applied to this object, the saying is as just as it is witty, that, "in political arithmetic, two and two do not always make four .'' If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them.”



I suspect if “conservatives” running for office this coming election unite in an agreement to send the above 32 word amendment to the States for ratification if they are elected, it will not only verify they are true conservatives who want to return to our nation’s founding principles which includes its original tax plan, but they are willing to confront the existing Washington establishment head on which now thrives from and worships the socialist/progressive inspired tax calculated from profits, gains and other incomes.


JWK


“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.


Do you live in LaLa Land or on Fantasy Island? Just curious.

Repeal the 16th. Way to start a new year with stupidity.

And just what is stupid about conservatives offering real tax reform which would end the socialist inspired tax levied upon working people's earned wages?


JWK



“…..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities“. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address
 

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