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Of course no. If Ukraine is "Small Russia", it doesn't mean that Russia is "Big Ukraine".
Of course yes. If Ukraine is Small Russia, then the things are the same there, and vice versa. If the things are different, then Ukraine can't be 'Russia' in any form.

No. Europe do steal their money. No one of Russian oligarchs had saved his money in West
Yes, all of them.

Just don't show your disloyalty
Loyalty is a two-way road. Loyalty is based on Putin's ability to keep the boyars' privileges. If he becomes a threat to them, in a critical mass, he will be found in one of his bunkers chopped with his socks.

NATO doesn't see the difference between us. They are going to kill both oligarchs and ordinary people. That's the point. And this is exactly why we are in the same boat
Your oligarchs are already part of NATO, Yurez.
 
Of course yes. If Ukraine is Small Russia, then the things are the same there, and vice versa. If the things are different, then Ukraine can't be 'Russia' in any form.
Of course no. A toddler is a "small man", but it doesn't mean that an adult is a "big toddler". Or a human being can exist without, say, leg, but a leg can't survive without the whole body. The Borderland is a part of Russia, but the whole Russia is much more than a Borderland.

Yes, all of them.
Name even one. Even Durov, who was a citizen of France, but lived in Dubai, was kidnapped and tortured by French government until he gave them significant part of his property.

Loyalty is a two-way road. Loyalty is based on Putin's ability to keep the boyars' privileges. If he becomes a threat to them, in a critical mass, he will be found in one of his bunkers chopped with his socks.
Not only "privileges". Basically its "profits". And profits from looting Ukraine are good as well.

Your oligarchs are already part of NATO, Yurez.
Wishful thinking, Tarasik, it's just your wishful thinking.
 
Of course no. A toddler is a "small man", but it doesn't mean that an adult is a "big toddler". Or a human being can exist without, say, leg, but a leg can't survive without the whole body. The Borderland is a part of Russia, but the whole Russia is much more than a Borderland
And? Both a toddler and an adult are human beings with 'the same' physical body. What may differ is the body's size and development of its parts depending on the age.

Name even one. Even Durov, who was a citizen of France, but lived in Dubai, was kidnapped and tortured by French government until he gave them significant part of his property
Usual bullshit from Yurez. Durov was released shortly afterwards of his detention when he agreed to cooperate with French authorities and give them some codes of Telegram.

Not only "privileges". Basically its "profits". And profits from looting Ukraine are good as well
They have far more profits from looting Russia.

Wishful thinking, Tarasik, it's just your wishful thinking
Reality, Yurez, only reality.
 
And? Both a toddler and an adult are human beings with 'the same' physical body. What may differ is the body's size and development of its parts depending on the age.
Adults can do things that toddlers can't. Like reading, writing, shooting, etc. When we refer a toddler as a "little man" we tell about his perspectives. When we refer an adult as a "big toddler" we mean, that this adult is retarded. So, Ukraine is "little Russia", but Russia isn't "Big Ukraine". In 90-s there was an attempt to establish "Novgorod or even Lithuanian models", but NATO's aggression against Yugoslavia clearly demonstrated that this is the way to nowhere. You know, Lithuania, who was the real Russia (15 times more numerous than Moscowy) back in XV century fell in total misery and was eliminated by neighbours exactly because of that mindset.

Usual bullshit from Yurez. Durov was released shortly afterwards of his detention when he agreed to cooperate with French authorities and give them some codes of Telegram.
Yep. French government tortured him and forced him to give up "some codes" which are his property, by the way.
So, name me even one Russian oligarch who was not robbed by the West?

They have far more profits from looting Russia.
Really? Compare Moscow with Washington or any other western capital. They take a lot, but they also invest a lot in our common home.

Reality, Yurez, only reality.
No. It's nothing but your wishful thinking.
 
Adults can do things that toddlers can't. Like reading, writing, shooting, etc. When we refer a toddler as a "little man" we tell about his perspectives. When we refer an adult as a "big toddler" we mean, that this adult is retarded. So, Ukraine is "little Russia", but Russia isn't "Big Ukraine". In 90-s there was an attempt to establish "Novgorod or even Lithuanian models", but NATO's aggression against Yugoslavia clearly demonstrated that this is the way to nowhere. You know, Lithuania, who was the real Russia (15 times more numerous than Moscowy) back in XV century fell in total misery and was eliminated by neighbours exactly because of that mindset
Russia for me is a retarded adult. So, everything is fine with this conception.

Yep. French government tortured him and forced him to give up "some codes" which are his property, by the way.
So, name me even one Russian oligarch who was not robbed by the West
Before you were babbling about 'significant' part of his property, now you agree with 'some codes'. Sober up and make up your mind.

I told you that no one of them was robbed. No one means you can choose any name you want and put it here.

Really? Compare Moscow with Washington or any other western capital. They take a lot, but they also invest a lot in our common home
I would rather compare a bunch of towns around Moscow that were without heating last winter.


No. It's nothing but your wishful thinking
I know, reality hurts, Yurez. Try to cope with that.
 
Russia for me is a retarded adult. So, everything is fine with this conception.
Thats why you guys are going to be defeated. You are totally out of touch with reality.

Before you were babbling about 'significant' part of his property, now you agree with 'some codes'. Sober up and make up your mind.
Even few codes is significant part of his property. One thing, and pretty valuable thing, is a "really private messanger", and another much less valuable is "just another non-private messanger". Say nothing about other assets.

I told you that no one of them was robbed. No one means you can choose any name you want and put it here.
And I told you that all of them were robbed. Durov was robbed, Berezovskiy was robbed, Tinkov was robbed, Chubais was robbed.
Name me even one, who wasn't robbed?

I would rather compare a bunch of towns around Moscow that were without heating last winter.
As I said - completely out of touch with reality.
I know, reality hurts, Yurez. Try to cope with that.
And is it why you totally ignore and deny reality, my little friend?
 
Thats why you guys are going to be defeated. You are totally out of touch with reality.

As I said - completely out of touch with reality.

And is it why you totally ignore and deny reality, my little friend?
Not denying anything, but trying to tell you about some basic things. So as you not to look like 'a village idiot' talking about some funny things about conquering California and Alaska.


Even few codes is significant part of his property. One thing, and pretty valuable thing, is a "really private messanger", and another much less valuable is "just another non-private messanger". Say nothing about other assets
Maybe there is some rationality in this reasoning, but that is not only about Durov and his Telegram. The same goes for Zuckerberg and his Facebook, and other messengers. It is how Western governments view a policy against extremism, hate speech and other things in the Internet.


And I told you that all of them were robbed. Durov was robbed, Berezovskiy was robbed, Tinkov was robbed, Chubais was robbed.
Name me even one, who wasn't robbed
Neither of them. They all live (or lived) quite luxury lives in the West. Including Durov, who you are so concerned about. But he can't be considered an oligarch in any meaning.
 
Not denying anything, but trying to tell you about some basic things. So as you not to look like 'a village idiot' talking about some funny things about conquering California and Alaska.
Russia's conquest of Alaska and California is much less stupidier than American/NATO conquest of Crimea and Novorussia. At least because in the past Alaska was Russian territory and Crimea never was American.

Maybe there is some rationality in this reasoning, but that is not only about Durov and his Telegram. The same goes for Zuckerberg and his Facebook, and other messengers. It is how Western governments view a policy against extremism, hate speech and other things in the Internet.
I couldn't care less about western governments stealing property of western businesmen. They can fry their children in oil and eat them at breakfast, it's simply irrelevant. But they do steal property of Russian people, and that's wrong.

Neither of them. They all live (or lived) quite luxury lives in the West. Including Durov, who you are so concerned about. But he can't be considered an oligarch in any meaning.
Really? Luxury? Do you consider Chubais' table in Glasgow as "luxury"?
Who exactly (in your Peremoga-verse) saved even a half of his fortune?
 
Ok. Let's talk about Ukrainians. Specifically about Yatsenyuk. He left Ukraine with 1 billion dollars. What he have now? Just a humble villa in the USA. 99% of his money were taken by his American masters.
 
Russia's conquest of Alaska and California is much less stupidier than American/NATO conquest of Crimea and Novorussia. At least because in the past Alaska was Russian territory and Crimea never was American
It is not about what was or what is or something. It is about capabilities. And your capabilities show that you should stop with vodka and some 'heavier' things.


I couldn't care less about western governments stealing property of western businesmen. They can fry their children in oil and eat them at breakfast, it's simply irrelevant. But they do steal property of Russian people, and that's wrong
Durov has the French citizenship. Obviously, he thinks that some inconvenience there is much more preferable than Russian 'protection'.


Really? Luxury? Do you consider Chubais' table in Glasgow as "luxury"?
Who exactly (in your Peremoga-verse) saved even a half of his fortune?
Time to open a little secret for you, Yurez. That photo was a test on retardation. And you obviously failed it.
 
It is not about what was or what is or something. It is about capabilities. And your capabilities show that you should stop with vodka and some 'heavier' things.
And Russian capabilities are much better than American ones.

Durov has the French citizenship. Obviously, he thinks that some inconvenience there is much more preferable than Russian 'protection'.
Who knows? May be, right now he understands what mistake he had made.

Time to open a little secret for you, Yurez. That photo was a test on retardation. And you obviously failed it.
Really? Chubais told you it? And what did tell you Yatsenyuk? That he doubled his fortune in America? They all lost almost everything (save for life and, sometimes, few villas).
 
The USA and EU will cease their existence much earlier. May be even next year.
RIIIIIGHT. You have a vivid imagination. The EU and USA will be here long after you are dead and gone. Unlike Russia, the USA and the members of the EU and USA have stable governments based upon the will of the governed.
 
RIIIIIGHT. You have a vivid imagination. The EU and USA will be here long after you are dead and gone. Unlike Russia, the USA and the members of the EU and USA have stable governments based upon the will of the governed.
Its not about "will of governed", it's about arsenals of nuclear weapons.
And about "stable government", it's a joke, right?
 
And Russian capabilities are much better than American ones
Yes, in producing vodka and dumbing down of their population.


Who knows? May be, right now he understands what mistake he had made
Nah, he goes on with his usual luxury life and gives you the finger.


Really? Chubais told you it? And what did tell you Yatsenyuk? That he doubled his fortune in America? They all lost almost everything (save for life and, sometimes, few villas)
Common sense, Yurik. The concept you aren't familiar with.
 
Yes, in producing vodka and dumbing down of their population.
Actually, the USA produce more alcohol and their population is much more dumb.

Nah, he goes on with his usual luxury life and gives you the finger.



Common sense, Yurik. The concept you aren't familiar with.
It's not "common sense". It's just self-comforting wishful thinking.
 
Actually, the USA produce more alcohol and their population is much more dumb
I am not so sure about that, Yurez. And you, among a bunch of other Russians I have met on this forum, just cry about otherwise.
 
I am not so sure about that, Yurez. And you, among a bunch of other Russians I have met on this forum, just cry about otherwise.
I remember not long after the coup most of Ukrainian Gold left late at night from a provincial airport probably to the US Federal Bank, all for safe keeping :abgg2q.jpg: the US also stole Libyan Gold, in Ukraine Nulands friend Yats left Ukraine not longafterthe Gold.
 
I remember not long after the coup most of Ukrainian Gold left late at night from a provincial airport probably to the US Federal Bank, all for safe keeping :abgg2q.jpg: the US also stole Libyan Gold, in Ukraine Nulands friend Yats left Ukraine not longafterthe Gold.
True story, Brit. You saw this as an eyewitness in this provincial airport, without a doubt.
 
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Putin told Soros, the WEF, the World Bank, BlackRock et. al. to mind their own business and stay out of Russia.

That's why he's Globalist Enemy #1
 
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