Zone1 Will Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus be adopted soon by many Jewish scholars?

[DennisPTate]

There are some hopeful movement by the Orthodox Jewish community to take another look at what was accomplished and taught by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

One important part of this, in my opinion, will be that it will become clear that the Messianic Gentile movement that became modern Christianity tends to know rather little about the obvious very Jewish background in the ideas of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and his disciples.

As Christianity became larger and larger it tended to become very anti-Semitic in flavor.

Redeem Jesus back to Israel, Peace between Judaism & Christianity

A Jewish Orthodox scholar from Jerusalem, endeavors to remove the Jewish Anathema on Yeshua, to Redeem Jesus back to Israel & start a public Retrial on his behalf, reach Peace between Judaism & Christianity.

www.facingeachother.com

The Jewish Orthodox Initiative for the
Legal Return of Yeshua / Jesus to the Israel
& his Public Retrial

Welcome to the Facing-Eeach-Other website, the virtual tent of meeting between Judaism and Christianity! This is an original initiative by Ariel Cohen Alloro who is an Orthodox Jewish Priest (Cohen) and it comes out of his personal discoveries in the Torah and Chassidic Judaism.
Ariel is not an official Rabbi, but a diligent student of one of the greatest Rabbis today, who mastered the discipline of his Teacher and brings us now his innovative work, an essential contribution for the redemption of Israel and the whole world.

About the Facing-Each-Other Initiative
After 2000 years of ideological misunderstandings and misconceptions between Judaism and Christianity, The Facing-Each-Other initiative is undertaking an historical, major, crucial task to reach autentic reconciliation between the 2 main streams of faith that have both emerged from the same Torah received on Mount Sinai.

After 33 years of Torah and Chasidut research, Ariel Cohen Alloro realized the proper, legal way to enable the official return of a Jewish Kosher Yeshua back to the Jewish Establishment.
As a Jewish Priest, a Cohen, he intends to organize and perform a traditional Pidyon haBen (Redeeming of the Firstborn Son) ceremony on behalf of Yeshua that should welcome him back to his Jewish family and remove all the old taboos and restrictions related to his name from the Jewish Orthodox stand-point.
Next step should be to open a public Retrial on behalf of Yeshua in the presence of 10 most important Rabbis in Israel, meant to fix the initial rigged trial that took place 2000 years ago and to clarify in front of the whole world all the aspects and issues related to this delicate subject.

All the dialogues should be done in a constructive, truthful and respectful way according to the Torah, aiming to reveal all the truth about Yeshua, in a way that will bring intellectual and emotional fulfilment to everyonge involved in and following this project.

Facing Each Other

The official Jewish Orthodox initiative to redeem Yeshua of Nazareth back to the Jewish establishment - real key for peace between Judaism & Christianity. After 2000 years of Judeo-Christian dispute about Yeshua of Nazareth, an Orthodox Chasidic Jewish scholar from Jerusalem, Ariel Cohen Alloro...

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[The Irish Ram]

I would love that, but they aren't going to accept Jesus, until they are nearly decimated, and He touches down at the Mt. of Olives. It causes the Mt. to split and the Jews run to Him. And He never leaves them. He sets up shop in the city of his ancestor, King David. Heaven itself will descend there, and God will live with His children.
But there will be converts before Christ comes back, because there will be 144 thousand evangelizing Jews that are sealed by God so they can't be killed. And they will win some to Christ.

 

[DennisPTate]

I would love that, but they aren't going to accept Jesus, until they are nearly decimated, and He touches down at the Mt. of Olives. It causes the Mt. to split and the Jews run to Him. And He never leaves them. He sets up shop in the city of his ancestor, King David. Heaven itself will descend there, and God will live with His children.
But there will be converts before Christ comes back, because there will be 144 thousand evangelizing Jews that are sealed by God so they can't be killed. And they will win some to Christ.

Or could it be that a Christian Political leader will rise up and deeply impress ten million Israelis by accomplishing the rebuilding of at least one, if not two, Jewish Temples for Jews?

President Trump is viewed very differently by Israelis than he is by Jews living in the USA.


I am of the belief that the up coming months and years are going to be full of surprises, [and some of those surprising events could actually be shockingly positive].

BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem

ADAM ELIYAHU BERKOWITZ
BIBLICAL NEWS
NOVEMBER 10, 2016
3 MIN READ
he Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.

Rabbi Hillel Weiss, spokesman for the Sanhedrin, contacted Breaking Israel News to announce that the election of Trump, who has promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, coupled with Putin’s expressed desire for the Temple to be rebuilt, prompted the Jewish court to send a letter offering the two the opportunity to act as modern-day Cyrus figures: non-Jewish kings who recognize the importance of Israel and the Temple.

Cyrus the Great, King of Persia in the sixth century BCE, announced in the first year of his reign that he was prompted by God to make a decree that the Temple in Jerusalem should be rebuilt.

BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem

The Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.

israel365news.com

This will cost USA taxpayers zero because the money and materials for at least one Jewish Temple are already prepared and ready to be put to use.

It is simply a matter of the Israelis being permitted to do this.

Personally I favor the building of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex first because it will be several kilometers outside Jerusalem and thus will be somewhat less controversial than a temple anywhere near the Al Aqsa Mosque or the Dome of the Rock.

On the other hand the actual site of The Temple of Solomon is several hundred meters away from the Dome of the Rock or the Al Aqsa Mosque so either temple could be constructed with less controversy than we might tend to imagine?

[Rabbi Jonathan Cahn] : "THE KING IN THE WHITE HOUSE
I turned again and found myself standing in front of the White House. I watched as an old bearded man in a long black coat and a skullcap entered through its front doors. He made his way to the Oval Office. I followed him there. In the centre of the office sat a bearded king with a crown of corrugated gold, a scepter, and a robe of white, purple and yellow. "Are you the one, " asked the man in black, "anointed to set the captives free?" "How could I be" said the king, "and not know that I was?" At that the king rose from his throne, walked over to the desk, opened its drawer, and took out a clay cylinder covered with symbols. He then walked outside the Oval Office, where a large golden eagle awaited him. The moment he stepped outside his appearance changed. It was now that of a man with short cropped hair, a light-coloured suit, a light coloured hat, and glasses. He placed the cylinder in the talons of the eagle, which then flew away. "Will you look at that!" he said as he watched the eagle in the sky. He then came back inside and sat down on the throne. His appearance reverted to that of the king. "I am he," said the king." [Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, The Oracle, page 97]

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The Oracle: The Jubilean Mysteries Unveiled: Cahn, Jonathan: 9781629996295: Books - Amazon.ca

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[The Irish Ram]

I don't know, Dennis. Jews aren't really too friendly with Christians. They literally spit on the cross in Israel. But proof that they have not accepted Christ is that they are going to rebuild the Temple and sacrifice animals to cover their sin.

Nevertheless, that is between them and God. Our job is to bless them, and it comes with blessing for doing so:
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed

 

[DennisPTate]

I don't know, Dennis. Jews aren't really too friendly with Christians. They literally spit on the cross in Israel. But proof that they have not accepted Christ is that they are going to rebuild the Temple and sacrifice animals to cover their sin.

Nevertheless, that is between them and God. Our job is to bless them, and it comes with blessing for doing so:
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed

Yes, we Christians need to realize that the Jewish Rabbi's know that only they can understand and fulfill every word in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight.

Only the Jewish Rabbi's understand the laws of Moses that must be honored in this time period so that every positive word written by the Jewish prophets can come to pass.


I believe that Jewish Rabbi's in Israel know things about the near future that are extremely positive and shockingly accurate.

The Bible Code​

by Michael Drosnin (Author)
4.5 4.5 out of 5 stars (573)
2.9 on Goodreads



0n September 1, 1994, I flew to Israel and met in Jerusalem with a close friend of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, the poet Chaim Guri. I gave him a letter which he immediately gave to the Prime Minister.

"An Israeli mathematician has discovered a hidden code in the Bible that appears to reveal the details of events that took place thousands of years after the Bible was written," my letter to Rabin stated.

"The reason I'm telling you about this is that the only time your full name Yitzhak Rabin is encoded in the Bible, the words 'assassin that will assassinate' cross your name."

On November 4, 1995, came the awful confirmation, a shot in the back from a man who believed he was on a mission from God, the murder that was encoded in the Bible three thousand years ago.

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[Cassandro]

Nobody likes proselytizers.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Nobody likes proselytizers.

Romans 10:14-15 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”​

 

[The Irish Ram]

Yes, we Christians need to realize that the Jewish Rabbi's know that only they can understand and fulfill every word in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight.

Only the Jewish Rabbi's understand the laws of Moses that must be honored in this time period so that every positive word written by the Jewish prophets can come to pass.


I believe that Jewish Rabbi's in Israel know things about the near future that are extremely positive and shockingly accurate.

The Bible code is a work of art. God's work. It is amazing.

 

[Cassandro]

Romans 10:14-15 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”​

There is a difference between bringing good news and undermining someone else's religion, especially in Israel.

 

[BreezeWood]

taught by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

where is your source from jesus in their own writing they were ever a jew much less a rabbi - from which institution, seminary do you claim jesus attended for their rabbinic authority.

 

[Cougarbear]

Or could it be that a Christian Political leader will rise up and deeply impress ten million Israelis by accomplishing the rebuilding of at least one, if not two, Jewish Temples for Jews?

President Trump is viewed very differently by Israelis than he is by Jews living in the USA.


I am of the belief that the up coming months and years are going to be full of surprises, [and some of those surprising events could actually be shockingly positive].




This will cost USA taxpayers zero because the money and materials for at least one Jewish Temple are already prepared and ready to be put to use.

It is simply a matter of the Israelis being permitted to do this.

Personally I favor the building of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex first because it will be several kilometers outside Jerusalem and thus will be somewhat less controversial than a temple anywhere near the Al Aqsa Mosque or the Dome of the Rock.

On the other hand the actual site of The Temple of Solomon is several hundred meters away from the Dome of the Rock or the Al Aqsa Mosque so either temple could be constructed with less controversy than we might tend to imagine?

Moreover, thou son of man, take thee on stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph , the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become on in thine hand. - Ezekiel 37:16-17.
Isaiah 29: For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered (APOSTASY). And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to on that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed. And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. Wherefore the Lord said, Foras much as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.....And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.....They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

Dude! Come out of apostasy by realizing that the joining of the book of Joseph is the Book of Mormon that can bring Joseph and Judah together! Instead, these learned men, Rabbis and Christian Scholars (Ministers and Pastors) keep people separated and in apostasy. Moses is the Prophet of Judah. Joseph Smith is the Prophet of Joseph. With the Book of Mormon, they can become one in thine hand. This Rabbi will never get it and those that follow him or Messianic Jews will never come together with Israel of Joseph. Read the Book of Mormon again with real intent, without a double mind and faith in Christ now wavering.

 

[fncceo]

There are some hopeful movement by the Orthodox Jewish community to take another look at what was accomplished and taught by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

Why would they waste time on a fictional character?

You can be as hopeful as you want but you're going to live your life a very disappointed man.

Even if Jeebus came to Earth and started doing handstands in Times Square, he's not going to get a lot of attention from Jews because his pushy followers are just too damned annoying.

Never join a religion that rings your doorbell at dinner time.

 

[fncceo]

The "Jews for Jesus" (they like to call themselves Messianic Xtians) was founded back in 1970 by a Reform Jewish man, Martin Rosen, who married a xtian girl and converted. He went to Baptist Bible College and then proclaimed he was going to "minister to The Jews".

He founded the "J for J's" back in 1970 with funding from The Baptist Church.

They prey on vulnerable Jews, particularly those who have recently lost a love one or have divorced, by pretending to be Jewish while indoctrinating them into their particular brand of xtianity with the trappings (but not the meaning) of Judaism.

They are also known for coming into Jewish nursing homes preying on the elderly Jews in search of converts and donations.

You used to only find them on the street corners of major cities in the US and Israel, but now they pervade The Internet, by spamming message boards and discussions where they believe Jews might be active.

 

[DennisPTate]

Why would they waste time on a fictional character?

You can be as hopeful as you want but you're going to live your life a very disappointed man.

Even if Jeebus came to Earth and started doing handstands in Times Square, he's not going to get a lot of attention from Jews because his pushy followers are just too damned annoying.

Never join a religion that rings your doorbell at dinner time.

Near death experiencer John J. Davis reports meeting Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and he was given a one sentence message that is relevant to all eight billion of us.

Wildflower Meadow​

Here’s the last part of my near-death experience. My guide took me to what I can only describe as an absolutely beautiful meadow. There were rolling hills, beautiful flowers, green grass. It was a perfect day.

And then my guide left. I thought I was standing there by myself, and then, all of a sudden, a man showed up in front of me. Nobody told me it was him; I just knew that it was Jesus. He was different from everyone else. I could see his hands, and I could see his feet. I could see what he was wearing. He had a white robe on with a golden sash around his waist, and he had gold-colored sandals that laced up his calves, but he was so bright I couldn’t make out his facial features. Jesus had so much energy and so much light that was pouring out of him.

He said something to me, and it is something I have tried to do my entire life since then. It was like my assignment somehow. Jesus said, “You must tell them there is no death.”

Right after he said those words, I immediately woke up back in the hospital room. I asked the surgeon what happened, and he said, “We lost you. You were gone for seven minutes.”

Ever since then, I’ve been doing what Jesus asked me to do. I’ve been telling people that something happens after we pass, and it’s something absolutely beautiful. There is so much hope and so much joy, which we forget about here because life can be very hard.

There are a lot of hard times in life, and we are not supposed to remember the other side. But when you see someone who has had these experiences, it gives you hope. There is a reason for all of this. It’s all real, and we live for eternity. There is really no end. When people cross over and leave us here, they are not gone from us—we will see them again.
[John J. Davis]

Wildflower Meadow - John J. Davis Near-Death Experience

My guide took me to a wildflower meadow with beautiful wildflowers of every color. Suddenly a man showed up and I knew it was Jesus.

johnjdavisnde.com

 

[Ace Nova]

When I was a child, the Jewish people we engaged with - through friendships or associations always seemed to be respectful of Catholics - and they would tell us that Jewish people considered Jesus a prophet but not the son of God.

When did that change? Or was that never the case in modern history?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There are some hopeful movement by the Orthodox Jewish community to take another look at what was accomplished and taught by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

One important part of this, in my opinion, will be that it will become clear that the Messianic Gentile movement that became modern Christianity tends to know rather little about the obvious very Jewish background in the ideas of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and his disciples.

As Christianity became larger and larger it tended to become very anti-Semitic in flavor.

Redeem Jesus back to Israel, Peace between Judaism & Christianity

A Jewish Orthodox scholar from Jerusalem, endeavors to remove the Jewish Anathema on Yeshua, to Redeem Jesus back to Israel & start a public Retrial on his behalf, reach Peace between Judaism & Christianity.

www.facingeachother.com

The Jewish Orthodox Initiative for the
Legal Return of Yeshua / Jesus to the Israel
& his Public Retrial

Facing Each Other

The official Jewish Orthodox initiative to redeem Yeshua of Nazareth back to the Jewish establishment - real key for peace between Judaism & Christianity. After 2000 years of Judeo-Christian dispute about Yeshua of Nazareth, an Orthodox Chasidic Jewish scholar from Jerusalem, Ariel Cohen Alloro...

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Yes, but its Yeshua of the Gnostic Gospels

 

[SaxonJackson]

"Will (redacted) Jesus be adopted soon by many Jewish scholars?​

No.

 

[DennisPTate]

Yes, but its Yeshua of the Gnostic Gospels

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT BUT AT LEAST MUSLIMS REGARD THE PROPHET ISA, [SHALOM BE UPON HIM], AS A GENUINE PROPHET, WHEREAS A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF US MESSIANIC GENTILES AND CHRISTIANS DO NOT REALLY BELIEVE MUCH OF WHAT MESSIAH YESHUA - JESUS ACTUALLY SAID, [THAT HIS DISCIPLES ACTED AS SCRIBES TO RECORD FOR ALL OF US]!


SHALOM ON JERUSALEM, IN THE NAME OF MOSHIACH BEN DAVID!

LATTER DAY SAINTS CAN TURN THIS IDEA INTO A SERIES OF REALITY FILMS PLUS A SEMI-REALITY SCIENCE FICTION FILM SERIES SET IN AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE THAT BEGINS IN 1820 TO 1840 AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON!



I AM OF THE BELIEF THAT WE CANADIANS DUE TO OUR NEARLY "SATANIC" CLIMATE ARE IN A SPECIAL POSITION TO UNDERSTAND HOW AN ALTERNATIVE CURRENCY NOTE COMBINED WITH A DATABASE CAN BE USED TO SET IN MOTION A VASTLY BETTER WORLD ECONOMY THAT I ACTUALLY READ ABOUT IN A CHASSIDIC JEWISH WEBSITE:

[TSVI FREEMAN] "1. The first thing Moshiach does is do away with bad marketing. That's the true villain that has held us back all these years. Ask any consumer electronics or computer engineer. We could all own household robots to do our work. We could be consuming less than 10% of the natural resources we consume now—if it weren't for those nefarious busy bodies who market quantity rather than quality. Given the true needs of most people and the productivity possible with modern technology, we should all be working an average of 2.5 hours a week. What's responsible for the other 60+ hours? Bad Marketing.

Moshiach's marketing people will get people's minds back on the right track. Thinking about real quality of life. About their relationship with the earth and with their bodies and their souls and the people around them. Once that's done, just about everything else we need to create paradise is here already."


[Sighting Moshiach
By Tzvi Freeman]

It is my belief that residents of the USA State of Utah and of the Canadian province of Alberta should lead in this adventure due t their history!

Post in thread 'Wayne Gretzky for Prime Minister of Canada, and paying off of the national debt of the USA!'

Dec 13, 2025

I AM OF THE BELIEF THAT WE CANADIANS DUE TO OUR NEARLY "SATANIC" CLIMATE ARE IN A SPECIAL POSITION TO UNDERSTAND HOW AN ALTERNATIVE CURRENCY NOTE COMBINED WITH A DATABASE CAN BE USED TO SET IN MOTION A VASTLY BETTER WORLD ECONOMY THAT I ACTUALLY READ ABOUT IN A CHASSIDIC JEWISH WEBSITE:

1. The first thing Moshiach does is do away with bad marketing. That's the true villain that has held us back all these years. Ask any consumer electronics or computer engineer. We could all own household robots to do our work. We could be consuming less than 10% of the natural resources we...

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[BreezeWood]

Near death experiencer John J. Davis reports meeting Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus

"But when you see someone who has had these experiences, it gives you hope".

there is a reason, causal mental distortion for your fixation - that inherently does not supersede existing recorded religious doctrines to suit your own superstitions.

prove jesus was ever a jew and as the reason being the 1st century events are in fact the repudiation of judaism false commandments et al.

prove the heavens would manufacture a messiah to be sent to save anyone or group than the same mental distortion as your own for such an egregious error of judgement.

 

[DennisPTate]

there is a reason, causal mental distortion for your fixation - that inherently does not supersede existing recorded religious doctrines to suit your own superstitions.

prove jesus was ever a jew and as the reason being the 1st century events are in fact the repudiation of judaism false commandments et al.

prove the heavens would manufacture a messiah to be sent to save anyone or group than the same mental distortion as your own for such an egregious error of judgement.

Or String Theory if properly understood.... along with The Anthropic Principle.... along with Tehilliard's Law of Complexity Consciousness.... along with the Law of Probability and The Cyclic Model of the Universe that Stephen Hawking Ph. D. explained to us in chapter thirteen of his book, "Stephen Hawking's Universe" hints strongly that a Being of Light and Super Energetic Matter has in a sense "evolved" and learned and gotten better and better at creating "Others and others" over infinite time in the past. [Yes, INFINITE, which is a lot more than a mere fourteen billion]!

Zone1 Thread 'New information on "Old Earth Creationism" and on "Theistic Evolutionary Theory?"'

Nov 26, 2025

As of last year new information came out related to Old Earth Creationism. Near death experiencer Robert Marshall was brain dead for ninety minutes and in a coma for forty four hours. During the last forty three hours and twenty eight minutes, he claims that Jesus filled him in on astonishing details such as"
1. The earth itself is three point six BILLION years old
2. Satan BEGAN to fall roughly seventy million years ago.
3. Satan had fully fallen by about sixty five million years ago.

I believe that this information is highly relevant to Pope Leo and I would suggest to Pope Leo that he...

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