Will Putin Screw Up?

[william the wie]

If you go to RT, RC World and Stratfor you will get a long list of relatively high tech weapons Russia is rolling out this spring. What is not included in those analyses is:

The US defense R&D budget has been minimal for a while.

China is having economic problems that will make it difficult for it continue to compete with either Russia or the US in the world arms bazaar. Chinese retirement age is 55 for women and 60 for men thus creating huge fiscal drag to cite just one factor and there are many factors working against further Chinese growth.

The collapse of oil prices began in July of last year and was expected for years prior to that.

Russia needs a new shtick to support it's economy now that oil is likely to collapse for the foreseeable future. It looks like the primary fallback position is selling arms.

As to the above I am willing to debate those points in other threads but what I am wondering about is how quickly will Russia be seen as a threat to US security and US military and industrial threat and start affecting US election results?

 

[deltex1]

Putin isn't the threat to our security. Obama is.

 

[gipper]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

 

[william the wie]

Putin isn't the threat to our security. Obama is.

I understand your point but in the light of Obama's reelection two years ago and the coronation of Hillary as I type I fail to see the relevance. Obama effectively lost Cyprus to Russia about a month ago and Grexit is only being held up because the US will lose its last Med air bases if that happens because a Russian-Chinese bailout is on the table and has been for a while. Those two major failures are not yet in the headlines over here yet.

 

[Roadrunner]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

 

[william the wie]

I agree partially with you gipper but the D ogliarchs and R ogliarchs get different pieces of the pie and the people get squeezed in different ways depending on who is in power.

 

[gipper]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

Proof much of the media is owned and should not be believed.

 

[william the wie]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

Obama is again following the NATO allies who deserted him in Libya and Syria but in the case of the Ukraine he is sticking them with the bill for a collapsed Ukraine and Putin gets to drain off Ukraine's human capital.

 

[TheOldSchool]

If you go to RT, RC World and Stratfor you will get a long list of relatively high tech weapons Russia is rolling out this spring. What is not included in those analyses is:

The US defense R&D budget has been minimal for a while.

China is having economic problems that will make it difficult for it continue to compete with either Russia or the US in the world arms bazaar. Chinese retirement age is 55 for women and 60 for men thus creating huge fiscal drag to cite just one factor and there are many factors working against further Chinese growth.

The collapse of oil prices began in July of last year and was expected for years prior to that.

Russia needs a new shtick to support it's economy now that oil is likely to collapse for the foreseeable future. It looks like the primary fallback position is selling arms.

As to the above I am willing to debate those points in other threads but what I am wondering about is how quickly will Russia be seen as a threat to US security and US military and industrial threat and start affecting US election results?

"The US defense R&D budget has been minimal..."

Um... are you fucking kidding me?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Why isn't there an option for "never"

 

[william the wie]

No, I am not.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

What's funnier is the sudden conservative wave of support for Russia and Putin here in America.

 

[Roadrunner]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

What's funnier is the sudden conservative wave of support for Russia and Putin here in America.

I'll take Putin over Hitler's Holocaust Hired Hands any day.

 

[william the wie]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

Proof much of the media is owned and should not be believed.

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

What's funnier is the sudden conservative wave of support for Russia and Putin here in America.

I'll take Putin over Hitler's Holocaust Hired Hands any day.

They are no longer neo-NAZIs they are now new left activists. We must be PC

 

[Roadrunner]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

Proof much of the media is owned and should not be believed.

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

What's funnier is the sudden conservative wave of support for Russia and Putin here in America.

I'll take Putin over Hitler's Holocaust Hired Hands any day.

They are no longer neo-NAZIs they are now new left activists. We must be PC

Jew killers are Jew killers, no matter how the Left tries to sanitize it.

 

[william the wie]

I know, this administration is not anti-Semetic it is anti-zionist just ask them. Getting to kill Jews is just an unexpected bonus.

 

[gipper]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

What's funnier is the sudden conservative wave of support for Russia and Putin here in America.

You are confused as usual. No one is supporting Putin.

 

[whitehall]

The real question is how badly can Barry Hussein screw up the freaking world before the Constitution terminates his influence.

 

[william the wie]

With Hillary a near shoe-in in 2016 do not hold your breath or even your stool on that one.

 

[Roadrunner]

Putin has been considered a threat by the western oligarchy for some time. That is way they are instigating war in Ukraine and throughout eastern Europe.

It is a sick game that is played by the banksters and their puppet politicians...sadly the people can't see it, but the people will die and the oligarchs will get rich.

And old story repeated over and over.

Funny how the usurper Ukrainian government is the one considered legit by Obama and his media, and the deposed elected government is called the "rebels".

What's funnier is the sudden conservative wave of support for Russia and Putin here in America.

You are confused as usual. No one is supporting Putin.

The Left hates Putin because he loves his country and puts its interests first.