Will Putin attack Ukraine again? Fighting Escalates in Eastern Ukraine, Signaling the End to Another Cease-Fire

Will Putin attack Ukraine ?

  • Putin is bluffing

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  • Yes, Putin will attack Ukraine again

    Votes: 7 87.5%

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He may if NATO does't back off.
SInce Hunter Biden has business dealings with Ukraine (and a day of military experience on active duty), maybe he can volunteer to go over and help them if Russia attacks!!! :laughing0301:
update :
Putin is checking on Biden and NATO,
"Putin's aide: How did it happen that the Greater "Russian" lands were on the territory of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and even Belarus?

Aide to the President of Russia, former Minister of Culture Vladimir Medinsky asked the deputies of the Federation Council to think, "how did it happen that the Great Russian lands were on the territory of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and even Belarus," according to Russian media....
It is not the first time that high-ranking Russian officials have complained about the territory where the population speaks Russian.

In 2014, Russia tried to tear the Russian-speaking south and east from Ukraine, which in Russia is sometimes called "Novorossiya" at the highest level, but Russian forces, except for Crimea, managed to occupy only the east of Donbass, where puppets "Donetsk" and "Lugansk" were formed. "People's republics".

Kazakhstan is closely monitoring the situation in the north of the country, where Russians make up a large proportion of the population. It is these territories that Russian pre-imperial figures refer to as "Great Russia."

Belarus, which has experienced rapid Russification in the last half century, is seen by some Russian forces as a potential target for full accession."
nn.by

YAY!!!! It ain't Joe son, it's some Banker that pulls his strings.

BREAKING :
" President Joe Biden has ordered the Pentagon to start removing Patriot anti-missile systems, other military hardware and forces from the Persian Gulf region and could deploy them elsewhere to counter Moscow "


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@OldPrague



Violent explosions are occurring on the front Russia and Ukraine.

#Donbass #Russia #Ukraine

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11:26 PM · Apr 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

It ain't Joe kid, it's someone well above him.
He may if NATO does't back off.
SInce Hunter Biden has business dealings with Ukraine (and a day of military experience on active duty), maybe he can volunteer to go over and help them if Russia attacks!!! :laughing0301:
update :
Putin is checking on Biden and NATO,
"Putin's aide: How did it happen that the Greater "Russian" lands were on the territory of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and even Belarus?

Aide to the President of Russia, former Minister of Culture Vladimir Medinsky asked the deputies of the Federation Council to think, "how did it happen that the Great Russian lands were on the territory of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and even Belarus," according to Russian media....
It is not the first time that high-ranking Russian officials have complained about the territory where the population speaks Russian.

In 2014, Russia tried to tear the Russian-speaking south and east from Ukraine, which in Russia is sometimes called "Novorossiya" at the highest level, but Russian forces, except for Crimea, managed to occupy only the east of Donbass, where puppets "Donetsk" and "Lugansk" were formed. "People's republics".

Kazakhstan is closely monitoring the situation in the north of the country, where Russians make up a large proportion of the population. It is these territories that Russian pre-imperial figures refer to as "Great Russia."

Belarus, which has experienced rapid Russification in the last half century, is seen by some Russian forces as a potential target for full accession."
nn.by

YAY!!!! It ain't Joe son, it's some Banker that pulls his strings.

BREAKING :
" President Joe Biden has ordered the Pentagon to start removing Patriot anti-missile systems, other military hardware and forces from the Persian Gulf region and could deploy them elsewhere to counter Moscow "


California
@OldPrague



Violent explosions are occurring on the front Russia and Ukraine.

#Donbass #Russia #Ukraine

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11:26 PM · Apr 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
So Biden is making it easier for his buddies in Iran to hit our troops in that region with missile strikes now????
Anyone anywhere can attack anyone else at will. Xiden won't notice. If his handlers happen to then their response will be to talk; not act. If by some accident American forces are put into play every petty dictator will seize the opportunity to attack, secure in the knowledge that the regime is already confused and America at its most vulnerable.

BREAKING :
" President Joe Biden has ordered the Pentagon to start removing Patriot anti-missile systems, other military hardware and forces from the Persian Gulf region and could deploy them elsewhere to counter Moscow "


More likely deploy them to Washington to counter American patriots.

atlanticcouncil produced a great analysis , (as usual )
"
How Putin made the international media his unwitting accomplices. The headline read like a Moscow propagandist’s dream. “Kremlin says fears Ukrainian side could restart civil war in eastern Ukraine,” it declared. Here were all the key elements of the disinformation narrative underpinning Russia’s seven-year campaign of aggression against Ukraine, expertly crammed into a single sentence: the conflict in eastern Ukraine is a civil war; Ukraine is responsible for any escalations in violence; and the Kremlin is merely a concerned bystander. ...

, just hours after the US military’s European Command had raised its threat level to the highest category of “potential imminent crisis” in response to the massing of Russian military forces close to the Ukrainian border. With international concern mounting over a possible major escalation in the undeclared war between Russia and Ukraine, Reuters had made the remarkably irresponsible decision to amplify Kremlin talking points without any attempt at qualification or even the use of quotation marks.


In fairness to Reuters, the agency is only one of the many news organizations who have found themselves inadvertently enlisted by the Kremlin in its information war against Ukraine. Indeed, most international media outlets have faced similar problems at some point or other since the conflict first erupted in 2014.


This is no accident. The hybrid nature of Moscow’s Ukraine offensive is specifically designed to defy easy definition. Russia has deployed a confusing combination of conventional forces, mercenaries, volunteers, and local collaborators in order to create a veil of plausible deniability, while at the same time disguising the entire operation behind layer upon layer of disinformation.

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He may if NATO does't back off.
SInce Hunter Biden has business dealings with Ukraine (and a day of military experience on active duty), maybe he can volunteer to go over and help them if Russia attacks!!! :laughing0301:
update :
Putin is checking on Biden and NATO,
"Putin's aide: How did it happen that the Greater "Russian" lands were on the territory of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and even Belarus?

Aide to the President of Russia, former Minister of Culture Vladimir Medinsky asked the deputies of the Federation Council to think, "how did it happen that the Great Russian lands were on the territory of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and even Belarus," according to Russian media....
It is not the first time that high-ranking Russian officials have complained about the territory where the population speaks Russian.

In 2014, Russia tried to tear the Russian-speaking south and east from Ukraine, which in Russia is sometimes called "Novorossiya" at the highest level, but Russian forces, except for Crimea, managed to occupy only the east of Donbass, where puppets "Donetsk" and "Lugansk" were formed. "People's republics".

Kazakhstan is closely monitoring the situation in the north of the country, where Russians make up a large proportion of the population. It is these territories that Russian pre-imperial figures refer to as "Great Russia."

Belarus, which has experienced rapid Russification in the last half century, is seen by some Russian forces as a potential target for full accession."
nn.by

YAY!!!! It ain't Joe son, it's some Banker that pulls his strings.

BREAKING :
" President Joe Biden has ordered the Pentagon to start removing Patriot anti-missile systems, other military hardware and forces from the Persian Gulf region and could deploy them elsewhere to counter Moscow "


California
@OldPrague



Violent explosions are occurring on the front Russia and Ukraine.

#Donbass #Russia #Ukraine

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11:26 PM · Apr 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

It ain't Joe kid, it's someone well above him.
He may if NATO does't back off.
SInce Hunter Biden has business dealings with Ukraine (and a day of military experience on active duty), maybe he can volunteer to go over and help them if Russia attacks!!! :laughing0301:
update :
Putin is checking on Biden and NATO,
"Putin's aide: How did it happen that the Greater "Russian" lands were on the territory of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and even Belarus?

Aide to the President of Russia, former Minister of Culture Vladimir Medinsky asked the deputies of the Federation Council to think, "how did it happen that the Great Russian lands were on the territory of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and even Belarus," according to Russian media....
It is not the first time that high-ranking Russian officials have complained about the territory where the population speaks Russian.

In 2014, Russia tried to tear the Russian-speaking south and east from Ukraine, which in Russia is sometimes called "Novorossiya" at the highest level, but Russian forces, except for Crimea, managed to occupy only the east of Donbass, where puppets "Donetsk" and "Lugansk" were formed. "People's republics".

Kazakhstan is closely monitoring the situation in the north of the country, where Russians make up a large proportion of the population. It is these territories that Russian pre-imperial figures refer to as "Great Russia."

Belarus, which has experienced rapid Russification in the last half century, is seen by some Russian forces as a potential target for full accession."
nn.by

YAY!!!! It ain't Joe son, it's some Banker that pulls his strings.

BREAKING :
" President Joe Biden has ordered the Pentagon to start removing Patriot anti-missile systems, other military hardware and forces from the Persian Gulf region and could deploy them elsewhere to counter Moscow "


California
@OldPrague



Violent explosions are occurring on the front Russia and Ukraine.

#Donbass #Russia #Ukraine

Image
Image
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11:26 PM · Apr 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
So Biden is making it easier for his buddies in Iran to hit our troops in that region with missile strikes now????
Anyone anywhere can attack anyone else at will. Xiden won't notice. If his handlers happen to then their response will be to talk; not act. If by some accident American forces are put into play every petty dictator will seize the opportunity to attack, secure in the knowledge that the regime is already confused and America at its most vulnerable.

BREAKING :
" President Joe Biden has ordered the Pentagon to start removing Patriot anti-missile systems, other military hardware and forces from the Persian Gulf region and could deploy them elsewhere to counter Moscow "


More likely deploy them to Washington to counter American patriots.

atlanticcouncil produced a great analysis , (as usual )
"
How Putin made the international media his unwitting accomplices. The headline read like a Moscow propagandist’s dream. “Kremlin says fears Ukrainian side could restart civil war in eastern Ukraine,” it declared. Here were all the key elements of the disinformation narrative underpinning Russia’s seven-year campaign of aggression against Ukraine, expertly crammed into a single sentence: the conflict in eastern Ukraine is a civil war; Ukraine is responsible for any escalations in violence; and the Kremlin is merely a concerned bystander. ...

, just hours after the US military’s European Command had raised its threat level to the highest category of “potential imminent crisis” in response to the massing of Russian military forces close to the Ukrainian border. With international concern mounting over a possible major escalation in the undeclared war between Russia and Ukraine, Reuters had made the remarkably irresponsible decision to amplify Kremlin talking points without any attempt at qualification or even the use of quotation marks.


In fairness to Reuters, the agency is only one of the many news organizations who have found themselves inadvertently enlisted by the Kremlin in its information war against Ukraine. Indeed, most international media outlets have faced similar problems at some point or other since the conflict first erupted in 2014.


This is no accident. The hybrid nature of Moscow’s Ukraine offensive is specifically designed to defy easy definition. Russia has deployed a confusing combination of conventional forces, mercenaries, volunteers, and local collaborators in order to create a veil of plausible deniability, while at the same time disguising the entire operation behind layer upon layer of disinformation.

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In fact, almost every civil war is a complex thing, and there are "confusing combinations of conventional forces, mercenaries, volunteers, and local collaborators" on the both sides.
Technically, the situation can be described from another side - it is a civil war in Russia, Kievan separatists fighting against Moscow Imperialists, or it is just another "Drang nach Osten", hybrid aggression of NATO against Russian people.
 
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Calm down, guys. There wont be any WWIII or nuclear strikes. I dont believe there are people who think that may actually happen.
 
Calm down, guys. There wont be any WWIII or nuclear strikes. I dont believe there are people who think that may actually happen.
You'd better believe.
 
Calm down, guys. There wont be any WWIII or nuclear strikes. I dont believe there are people who think that may actually happen.
You'd better believe.
Being ready is good and I dont dismiss the importance of this readiness. But my point still stands - there wont be any nuclear war. Thanks to this readiness, also.
 
Calm down, guys. There wont be any WWIII or nuclear strikes. I dont believe there are people who think that may actually happen.
You'd better believe.
Being ready is good and I dont dismiss the importance of this readiness. But my point still stands - there wont be any nuclear war. Thanks to this readiness, also.
You see - "readiness" it's not a sort of a passive position, when you can just "sit and wait". Readiness is much more like a "Red Queen's Race" and it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that. But many of American politicians ignore even most essential needs of American defense and endanger the USA.
 
" Technically, the situation can be described from another side - it is a civil war in Russia, " can you prove it with google map? are you NOD member , you sounds like a NOD
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Calm down, guys. There wont be any WWIII or nuclear strikes. I dont believe there are people who think that may actually happen.
You'd better believe.
Being ready is good and I dont dismiss the importance of this readiness. But my point still stands - there wont be any nuclear war. Thanks to this readiness, also.
You see - "readiness" it's not a sort of a passive position, when you can just "sit and wait". Readiness is much more like a "Red Queen's Race" and it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that. But many of American politicians ignore even most essential needs of American defense and endanger the USA.
What do you want to say? That the US government underestimates the nuclear threat? I dont think so. It is just my opinion, though, but I stick to it.

Except of that, I am sure the Americans have a full psychological portrait of Putin and some of his inner circle. I think they agree that Putin is a coward in his core.
 
" Technically, the situation can be described from another side - it is a civil war in Russia, " can you prove it with google map? are you NOD member , you sounds like a NOD
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It depends on the point of view. From some points of view The Confederate States of America were not part of the USA. The difference between Moscow and Kiev is much less than one between Washington and Richmond.
 
Calm down, guys. There wont be any WWIII or nuclear strikes. I dont believe there are people who think that may actually happen.
You'd better believe.
Being ready is good and I dont dismiss the importance of this readiness. But my point still stands - there wont be any nuclear war. Thanks to this readiness, also.
You see - "readiness" it's not a sort of a passive position, when you can just "sit and wait". Readiness is much more like a "Red Queen's Race" and it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that. But many of American politicians ignore even most essential needs of American defense and endanger the USA.
What do you want to say? That the US government underestimates the nuclear threat? I dont think so. It is just my opinion, though, but I stick to it.
It's not that they "underestimate" it, they just don't want to care about it. Their planning horizon is pretty limited by the all-out nuclear exchange. If the deterrence is failed - they don't care about the second day of the war, say nothing about winning the war, or establishing Post-War Order. Thats all, finita la commedia!
But if you don't have a plan of actions, if you believe, that the all-out nuclear war is "guaranteed suicide" you will never press the button. There is no "Credible First Strike Capability", then. Especially, if there is not a question of the USA existence at stake, but, say, question of Donbass, Ukraine or even Polish independence.

Except of that, I am sure the Americans have a full psychological portrait of Putin and some of his inner circle. I think they agree that Putin is a coward in his core.
Everyone is a coward in his core. Another question is how effectively a person can supress his "inner coward". And it highly depends on one's understanding of the whole situation and the possible ways of future. One thing is to commit a "guaranteed suicide", another - to play a "risky game" with the possibility to win.
What is even more important, the Russian sense of fear, as well as the Russian sense of humor, was not really and seriously studied. What is worse, it is highly misunderstanded. Ask Anthony John Blinken (Anton Donaldovich Blinkin) how many Russian books has he read? And what were those books? Ask Hillary, didn't she really saw a difference between words "Peregruzka" and "Perezagruzka" ("Overload" and "Reset"). Nowadays politics and even "experts" don't have a slightest idea about what is "mysterious Russian soul", say nothing about predicting Russian behavior in stressed circumstances. Hell, most of "experts" can't even read open official documents published at official kremlin.ru site.
 
Trump with his strange attraction to Putin/KGB. Biden is a cold war relic

this time its different , US forces and US leadership are ON .
So you would want the U.S. to intervene militarily on behalf of Ukraine? If so, in your opinion, how would Putin likely react?
 
He may if NATO does't back off.
Biden is not Hippy Obama or Trump with his strange attraction to Putin/KGB. Biden is a cold war relic

this time its different , US forces and US leadership are ON .

"

top US national security officials were in touch with their Ukrainian counterparts, and the country’s top general called his Ukrainian counterpart on Wednesday amid reports of Russian military buildup near the border with eastern Ukraine. The US had condemned the Russian aggression last week which resulted in the death of four Ukrainian soldiers.

“Russia’s destabilizing actions undermine the de-escalation intentions that had been achieved through [last year’s agreement],” CNN quoted chief Pentagon spokesman John Kirby as saying, on Wednesday. “Additionally, we are aware of Ukrainian military reports concerning Russian troop movements on Ukraine’s borders.”

The US expressed its support to Ukraine amid the threat from Russia, pledging to offer unwavering support to the country’s sovereignty. “Pleased to speak with Dmytro Kuleba today to discuss the United States unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

We continue to support Ukraine’s Euro-Atlantic integration in the face of Russia’s ongoing aggression in the Donbas and Crimea,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a tweet.


Biden isn't capable of leading anything. This is coming from above him.
The Potato-in-Chief is a puppet for the Tan Messiah's 3rd term. He probably has some oversight from the globalists. They probably had a hand in helping him assemble his American politburo. I hope Karma crushes that big-eared bastard.
 
Calm down, guys. There wont be any WWIII or nuclear strikes. I dont believe there are people who think that may actually happen.
You'd better believe.
Being ready is good and I dont dismiss the importance of this readiness. But my point still stands - there wont be any nuclear war. Thanks to this readiness, also.
You see - "readiness" it's not a sort of a passive position, when you can just "sit and wait". Readiness is much more like a "Red Queen's Race" and it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that. But many of American politicians ignore even most essential needs of American defense and endanger the USA.
What do you want to say? That the US government underestimates the nuclear threat? I dont think so. It is just my opinion, though, but I stick to it.
It's not that they "underestimate" it, they just don't want to care about it. Their planning horizon is pretty limited by the all-out nuclear exchange. If the deterrence is failed - they don't care about the second day of the war, say nothing about winning the war, or establishing Post-War Order. Thats all, finita la commedia!
But if you don't have a plan of actions, if you believe, that the all-out nuclear war is "guaranteed suicide" you will never press the button. There is no "Credible First Strike Capability", then. Especially, if there is not a question of the USA existence at stake, but, say, question of Donbass, Ukraine or even Polish independence.

Except of that, I am sure the Americans have a full psychological portrait of Putin and some of his inner circle. I think they agree that Putin is a coward in his core.
Everyone is a coward in his core. Another question is how effectively a person can supress his "inner coward". And it highly depends on one's understanding of the whole situation and the possible ways of future. One thing is to commit a "guaranteed suicide", another - to play a "risky game" with the possibility to win.
What is even more important, the Russian sense of fear, as well as the Russian sense of humor, was not really and seriously studied. What is worse, it is highly misunderstanded. Ask Anthony John Blinken (Anton Donaldovich Blinkin) how many Russian books has he read? And what were those books? Ask Hillary, didn't she really saw a difference between words "Peregruzka" and "Perezagruzka" ("Overload" and "Reset"). Nowadays politics and even "experts" don't have a slightest idea about what is "mysterious Russian soul", say nothing about predicting Russian behavior in stressed circumstances. Hell, most of "experts" can't even read open official documents published at official kremlin.ru site.
There is no any mysterious Russian soul. They use the same principles and instincts the most people on the Earth do.

There is no reason for a nuclear war whatsoever. Russia isnt the USSR of 50-60s and virtually there no one wants to lose their fortune because of Donbas or Ukraine or something like that. The only red line is a direct attack on Russian territory (including Crimea). But no one is seriously discussing it.
 
Anyone anywhere can attack anyone else at will. Xiden won't notice. If his handlers happen to then their response will be to talk; not act. If by some accident American forces are put into play every petty dictator will seize the opportunity to attack, secure in the knowledge that the regime is already confused and America at its most vulnerable.

BREAKING :
" President Joe Biden has ordered the Pentagon to start removing Patriot anti-missile systems, other military hardware and forces from the Persian Gulf region and could deploy them elsewhere to counter Moscow "

I don't think you need to be too chuffed over that move. Strategically, it makes some sense but knowing the Tan Messiah's hate for Israel, it could just as easily be a slap in Netanyahu's face. Too funny. That pompous tool was responsible for bringing the Sunni states into alliance with Israel. His support for Iran's Shia thugs caused fear in the Arab states so they allied with the baddest ass-kickers in the region. O'Dumbo probably didn't see THAT coming ;)
 
So you would want the U.S. to intervene militarily on behalf of Ukraine? If so, in your opinion, how would Putin likely react
I doubt there will be a full scale war in Donbas in the foreseeable future. What for?
 
Everyone is a coward in his core. Another question is how effectively a person can supress his "inner coward". And it highly depends on one's understanding of the whole situation and the possible ways of future. One thing is to commit a "guaranteed suicide", another - to play a "risky game" with the possibility to win.
Yeah... a VERY risky game. Putin isn't a coward. Anyone who knows anything about his history understands that. He's also not a fool. The danger with Putin in this situation, IMO, is the fact that he has low-yield nukes and his popularity is based totally on his "strong man" image. If he rolls the dice and NATO becomes involved to a degree that stops Russia and inflicts high casualties, that little man just might "go there".
 
Perhaps the U.S. should help Ukraine to develop a nuclear arsenal just like the Chinese and Russians have helped and are helping rogue states like North Korea and Iran to develop theirs.
 
Everyone is a coward in his core. Another question is how effectively a person can supress his "inner coward". And it highly depends on one's understanding of the whole situation and the possible ways of future. One thing is to commit a "guaranteed suicide", another - to play a "risky game" with the possibility to win.
Yeah... a VERY risky game. Putin isn't a coward. Anyone who knows anything about his history understands that. He's also not a fool. The danger with Putin in this situation, IMO, is the fact that he has low-yield nukes and his popularity is based totally on his "strong man" image. If he rolls the dice and NATO becomes involved to a degree that stops Russia and inflicts high casualties, that little man just might "go there".
It's not a problem, that he has low-yield nukes, three-years reserves of food, anti-ballistic defense, NBC-protection troops, EMERSON and whatever. Real problem is that the USA have nothing of this, and politicians even don't want to discuss necessary of all this stuff. "Bla-bla-bla," they say - "If there is a problem anywhere in the world, we'll just commit a suicide, and that's all". From the "sober American" point of view, it's just "irresponsible behavior" and "stupidity", nothing more.

But from the "paranoid Russian" point of view it looks like: "America is not ready to the "second strike" and even less ready to "protracted war", they are very vulnerable, their only chance if not to win the war, but just seriously hurt Russia, is the first sudden counterforce strike "out of blue". They are "trigger-happy", therefore we have to attack them first, better - without any visible tension period". There is the constant "Push the button" pressure.
That's how Norwegians see it:

and the only "sober" answer that can be accepted is:

"Sure, we'll make a Boom, and not just once. The whole world in the ash. But later. [When we'll be better prepared]"
 
Perhaps the U.S. should help Ukraine to develop a nuclear arsenal just like the Chinese and Russians have helped and are helping rogue states like North Korea and Iran to develop theirs.
You see, really independent, nuclear Ukraine will be much more dangerous to non-nuclear Poland, Hungary, Romania, Turkey than to nuclear Russia.
Say nothing, that Russia will occupy Ukraine long before the first stages of the nuclear program will be started.
 
Say nothing, that Russia will occupy Ukraine long before the first stages of the nuclear program will be started.

Not if we deploy forces there first, armed with tactical nuclear warheads and a promise to use them if the Russians invade.
 

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