Will Lebanon Disappear in 2014

[georgephillip]

The Taliban were war orphans and students.. and largely illiterate. They came to power because the Soviets left and Afghanistan was lawless...... like the aftermath of the civil war and the rise of the KKK.

Their intention was to stop the rapes and car jackings and stop the production of opium poppies.

And the lame excuses just keep on coming. The fact that they are illiterate and violent is not an excuse for their actions but rather a deliberate function of the Mideast Arab version of Islamism. You know ... keep 'em ignorant, hopeless, angry and armed.

One of the standard tactics in the maintenance of (Islamic) totalitarianism is ignorance and the invention of external enemies.

Islamics would hope to portray all the world’s ills as the fault of America and/or Israel, or any convenient excuse as this would relieve islamists from accepting responsibility for the disasters they create. But that’s really a hopelessly naïve position. Islamism as a politico-religious ideology has always been at war, either in overt acts of conquest and oppression or the maintenance of oppression.

When did Islam redraw borders on the opposite side of the planet from Mecca?
When was the last time Islam destroyed a nation state to the same extent that Iraq has been destroyed by the US?
Islam has been a victim of industrial warfare since the time of Sykes-Pico at least, and your solution is to blame the victims.
That's beyond naive and totally hopeless.

 

[Hossfly]

And the lame excuses just keep on coming. The fact that they are illiterate and violent is not an excuse for their actions but rather a deliberate function of the Mideast Arab version of Islamism. You know ... keep 'em ignorant, hopeless, angry and armed.

One of the standard tactics in the maintenance of (Islamic) totalitarianism is ignorance and the invention of external enemies.

Islamics would hope to portray all the world’s ills as the fault of America and/or Israel, or any convenient excuse as this would relieve islamists from accepting responsibility for the disasters they create. But that’s really a hopelessly naïve position. Islamism as a politico-religious ideology has always been at war, either in overt acts of conquest and oppression or the maintenance of oppression.

When did Islam redraw borders on the opposite side of the planet from Mecca?
When was the last time Islam destroyed a nation state to the same extent that Iraq has been destroyed by the US?
Islam has been a victim of industrial warfare since the time of Sykes-Pico at least, and your solution is to blame the victims.
That's beyond naive and totally hopeless.

You have to be kidding, hero. All the Islamists could go back to the Saudi Peninsula where they came from and give all those Muslim dominated countries back to the rightful owners. Starting with Iran, Lebanon..........

 

[Hollie]

And the lame excuses just keep on coming. The fact that they are illiterate and violent is not an excuse for their actions but rather a deliberate function of the Mideast Arab version of Islamism. You know ... keep 'em ignorant, hopeless, angry and armed.

One of the standard tactics in the maintenance of (Islamic) totalitarianism is ignorance and the invention of external enemies.

Islamics would hope to portray all the world’s ills as the fault of America and/or Israel, or any convenient excuse as this would relieve islamists from accepting responsibility for the disasters they create. But that’s really a hopelessly naïve position. Islamism as a politico-religious ideology has always been at war, either in overt acts of conquest and oppression or the maintenance of oppression.

When did Islam redraw borders on the opposite side of the planet from Mecca?
When was the last time Islam destroyed a nation state to the same extent that Iraq has been destroyed by the US?
Islam has been a victim of industrial warfare since the time of Sykes-Pico at least, and your solution is to blame the victims.
That's beyond naive and totally hopeless.

You’ve spent too much time with silly conspiracy theories and not enough time learnig your islamo-history.

Islam's wars of aggression have been going on-going ever since muhammud's armies spilled out of the Arabian Peninsula. From the time a violent, power-hungry Arab warlord with grandiose delusions went out on a raid against the merchant caravan of his own people, through the holy war incursions into old Europe that prompted the Crusades, to the car bombings just a few days ago, jihad has been the reliable vehicle by which Moslems have always carried their message of hate for all things infidel and the decree of making the law of muhammud (swish) supreme in all lands.

Moslems are stuck fast in a bygone age of military conquests over the infidels from India to Spain, and a once relevant impact on world politics. They are imprisoned by a violent and totalitarian mind-set that was relevant on the Arabian Peninsula fourteen centuries ago, but is now brings only misery to those subjected to it. Through its adherence to an inflexible denial of any versatility of its religious dogma, the Moslem world has stagnated since the Middle Ages and has been left behind in the opportunities for advancement and coexistence.Moslems were once, indeed, a fearsome and destructive military force. The mass transnational conquests that followed the death of their warlord "prophet" rivaled those of the Romans and the Mongolians, the latter of whom tellingly converted to Islam in 1295.

Sorry, george, but both you and islamism are victims of your own ineptitudes and self-created failures.

You would do best to stay with cutting and pasting what you conspiracy theorist pal Adam writes in the web tabloid you scour.

 

[georgephillip]

I see that you forget to mention that the reason behind the high mortality rate was due to the hezbolla tactics of forcing the Christian population of Lebanon to act as human shields. This is a trait of all Islamic groups to protect the fighters from harm, and to use as propaganda in the ensuing autopsy of the fighting

I see you forgot to provide a link again for one of your imbecilic claims.
(How many Persians fit on an aircraft carrier?)

Depends on how large it is and how small the Iranians are

But here you go

Lebanese civilians as human shields

http://www.ajcongress.org/site/DocServer/Part1.pdf?docID=861

Hezbollah's human shields - Washington Times

Hezbollah's human shields

"Hezbollah was responsible for numerous serious violations of the laws of war during its conflict with Israel. Its fighters indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing 43 Israeli civilians (as well as 12 Israeli soldiers), which is documented in a separate Human Rights Watch report, Civilians under Assault.[71]

"Hezbollah also at times endangered Lebanese civilians by failing to take all feasible precautions to avoid firing rockets from populated areas, mixing with the Lebanese civilian population, and storing weapons and ammunition in populated areas.

"Hezbollah fighters fired rockets on an almost daily basis from the close proximity of UN observer posts in southern Lebanon, an act of shielding, at least in part, that endangered UNIFIL troops by drawing retaliatory Israeli fire on the nearby UN positions.

"Each of these violations is detailed below.Human Rights Watch did not find evidence, however, that the deployment of Hezbollah forces in Lebanon routinely or widely violated the laws of war, as repeatedly alleged by Israel.

"We did not find, for example, that Hezbollah routinely located its rockets inside or near civilian homes.

"Rather, we found strong evidence that Hezbollah had stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys.

"Similarly, while we found that Hezbollah fighters launched rockets from villages on some occasions, and may have committed shielding, a war crime, when it purposefully and repeatedly fired rockets from the vicinity of UN observer posts with the possible intent of deterring Israeli counterfire, we did not find evidence that Hezbollah otherwise fired its rockets from populated areas.

"The available evidence indicates that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started and fired the majority of their rockets from pre-prepared positions in largely unpopulated valleys and fields outside villages.

"Israeli officials have made the serious allegation that Hezbollah routinely used 'human shields' to immunize its forces from attack and thus bears responsibility for the high civilian toll in Lebanon.

"Apart from its position near UN personnel, Human Rights Watch found only a handful of instances of possible shielding behind civilians, but nothing to suggest there was widespread commission of this humanitarian law violation or any Hezbollah policy encouraging such practices.

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks.

Why They Died | Human Rights Watch

 

[Hollie]

One of the standard tactics in the maintenance of (Islamic) totalitarianism is ignorance and the invention of external enemies.

Islamics would hope to portray all the world’s ills as the fault of America and/or Israel, or any convenient excuse as this would relieve islamists from accepting responsibility for the disasters they create. But that’s really a hopelessly naïve position. Islamism as a politico-religious ideology has always been at war, either in overt acts of conquest and oppression or the maintenance of oppression.

When did Islam redraw borders on the opposite side of the planet from Mecca?
When was the last time Islam destroyed a nation state to the same extent that Iraq has been destroyed by the US?
Islam has been a victim of industrial warfare since the time of Sykes-Pico at least, and your solution is to blame the victims.
That's beyond naive and totally hopeless.

You have to be kidding, hero. All the Islamists could go back to the Saudi Peninsula where they came from and give all those Muslim dominated countries back to the rightful owners. Starting with Iran, Lebanon..........

George isn't kidding.

Sometimes I am genuinely astonished at the bizarre and... just plain wrong lunacy that people like george will unthinkingly buy into. But then again, conspiracy theorists will believe anything that appears to support their conspiracies.

 

[Hollie]

I see you forgot to provide a link again for one of your imbecilic claims.
(How many Persians fit on an aircraft carrier?)

Depends on how large it is and how small the Iranians are

But here you go

Lebanese civilians as human shields

http://www.ajcongress.org/site/DocServer/Part1.pdf?docID=861

Hezbollah's human shields - Washington Times

Hezbollah's human shields

"Hezbollah was responsible for numerous serious violations of the laws of war during its conflict with Israel. Its fighters indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing 43 Israeli civilians (as well as 12 Israeli soldiers), which is documented in a separate Human Rights Watch report, Civilians under Assault.[71]

"Hezbollah also at times endangered Lebanese civilians by failing to take all feasible precautions to avoid firing rockets from populated areas, mixing with the Lebanese civilian population, and storing weapons and ammunition in populated areas.

"Hezbollah fighters fired rockets on an almost daily basis from the close proximity of UN observer posts in southern Lebanon, an act of shielding, at least in part, that endangered UNIFIL troops by drawing retaliatory Israeli fire on the nearby UN positions.

"Each of these violations is detailed below.Human Rights Watch did not find evidence, however, that the deployment of Hezbollah forces in Lebanon routinely or widely violated the laws of war, as repeatedly alleged by Israel.

"We did not find, for example, that Hezbollah routinely located its rockets inside or near civilian homes.

"Rather, we found strong evidence that Hezbollah had stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys.

"Similarly, while we found that Hezbollah fighters launched rockets from villages on some occasions, and may have committed shielding, a war crime, when it purposefully and repeatedly fired rockets from the vicinity of UN observer posts with the possible intent of deterring Israeli counterfire, we did not find evidence that Hezbollah otherwise fired its rockets from populated areas.

"The available evidence indicates that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started and fired the majority of their rockets from pre-prepared positions in largely unpopulated valleys and fields outside villages.

"Israeli officials have made the serious allegation that Hezbollah routinely used 'human shields' to immunize its forces from attack and thus bears responsibility for the high civilian toll in Lebanon.

"Apart from its position near UN personnel, Human Rights Watch found only a handful of instances of possible shielding behind civilians, but nothing to suggest there was widespread commission of this humanitarian law violation or any Hezbollah policy encouraging such practices.

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks.

Why They Died | Human Rights Watch

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks".


Ummm, george. Lebanese civilians died because your heroes, the Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel.

What part of Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel are you finding difficult to understand?

 

[georgephillip]

I see that you forget to mention that the reason behind the high mortality rate was due to the hezbolla tactics of forcing the Christian population of Lebanon to act as human shields. This is a trait of all Islamic groups to protect the fighters from harm, and to use as propaganda in the ensuing autopsy of the fighting

I see you forgot to provide a link again for one of your imbecilic claims.
(How many Persians fit on an aircraft carrier?)

Depends on how large it is and how small the Iranians are

But here you go

Lebanese civilians as human shields

http://www.ajcongress.org/site/DocServer/Part1.pdf?docID=861

Hezbollah's human shields - Washington Times

Hezbollah's human shields

"Israel's bombardment of southern Lebanon was widespread.

"Israeli warplanes launched some 7,000 attacks against targets in Lebanon, supplemented by massive artillery and naval bombardments.[174]

"Israeli air strikes completely destroyed or damaged tens of thousands of homes during its bombing campaign.

"In some villages, homes completely destroyed in the Israeli bombardment numbered in the hundreds: 340 homes completely destroyed in Srifa; 215 homes completely destroyed in Siddiquine; 180 homes complete destroyed in Yatar; 160 homes completely destroyed in Zebqine; more than 750 homes completely destroyed in `Aita al-Sha`ab; more than 800 homes completely destroyed in Bint Jbeil; 140 homes completely destroyed in Taibe.

"The list throughout Lebanon's southern region is extensive.

"According to many people interviewed by Human Rights Watch, much of this destruction-like the massive barrage of cluster munitions fired into southern Lebanon-took place in the final days of the war.

"Although Israel destroyed many of the homes with precision-guided missiles, there is no evidence of a Hezbollah military presence throughout these villages that would have justified this enormous 'collateral damage.'

"As explained above, Human Rights Watch's research indicates that the vast majority of Hezbollah rockets and fighters were placed outside these villages.

"In addition to the targeted strikes against people or homes assumed to be affiliated to Hezbollah, Israel carried out a massive number of strikes on the area from where Hezbollah launched rocket attacks, even if the launchers were long gone, with apparent disregard for possible civilian casualties or the destruction of civilian property..."

"In an article published in Haaretz on April 2, 2007, two senior military correspondents reported that, following the war, an IDF internal investigation found that 'the Artillery Corps shot approximately 170,000 munitions [shells] during the war, most of it [fired] to the approximate direction of the areas of launching. How many Hezbollah people were hit as a result? A senior officer in the Armored Corps says that if it turns out that five were killed he would be surprised.'[177]

"In the vast majority of the cases of civilian homes destroyed by Israeli strikes, the homes were empty, and there were no civilian casualties. However, as mentioned above, many civilians did not leave their villages, and a number of them died inside their houses, their bodies found under the rubble after the end of the war.

"The widespread bombardment showed little attempt to discriminate between military objectives and civilians and civilian structures. Nor does it seem that proper assessments were made of relative anticipated military advantage and civilian harm."

Why They Died | Human Rights Watch

 

[Sally]

Depends on how large it is and how small the Iranians are

But here you go

Lebanese civilians as human shields

http://www.ajcongress.org/site/DocServer/Part1.pdf?docID=861

Hezbollah's human shields - Washington Times

Hezbollah's human shields

"Hezbollah was responsible for numerous serious violations of the laws of war during its conflict with Israel. Its fighters indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing 43 Israeli civilians (as well as 12 Israeli soldiers), which is documented in a separate Human Rights Watch report, Civilians under Assault.[71]

"Hezbollah also at times endangered Lebanese civilians by failing to take all feasible precautions to avoid firing rockets from populated areas, mixing with the Lebanese civilian population, and storing weapons and ammunition in populated areas.

"Hezbollah fighters fired rockets on an almost daily basis from the close proximity of UN observer posts in southern Lebanon, an act of shielding, at least in part, that endangered UNIFIL troops by drawing retaliatory Israeli fire on the nearby UN positions.

"Each of these violations is detailed below.Human Rights Watch did not find evidence, however, that the deployment of Hezbollah forces in Lebanon routinely or widely violated the laws of war, as repeatedly alleged by Israel.

"We did not find, for example, that Hezbollah routinely located its rockets inside or near civilian homes.

"Rather, we found strong evidence that Hezbollah had stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys.

"Similarly, while we found that Hezbollah fighters launched rockets from villages on some occasions, and may have committed shielding, a war crime, when it purposefully and repeatedly fired rockets from the vicinity of UN observer posts with the possible intent of deterring Israeli counterfire, we did not find evidence that Hezbollah otherwise fired its rockets from populated areas.

"The available evidence indicates that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started and fired the majority of their rockets from pre-prepared positions in largely unpopulated valleys and fields outside villages.

"Israeli officials have made the serious allegation that Hezbollah routinely used 'human shields' to immunize its forces from attack and thus bears responsibility for the high civilian toll in Lebanon.

"Apart from its position near UN personnel, Human Rights Watch found only a handful of instances of possible shielding behind civilians, but nothing to suggest there was widespread commission of this humanitarian law violation or any Hezbollah policy encouraging such practices.

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks.

Why They Died | Human Rights Watch

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks".


Ummm, george. Lebanese civilians died because your heroes, the Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel.

What part of Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel are you finding difficult to understand?

Mr. George doesn't want to hear that. All he will do is spam another Cut and Paste like he usually does. Imagine if he had no Cuts and Pastes to spam forums with!!!

 

[Hollie]

I see you forgot to provide a link again for one of your imbecilic claims.
(How many Persians fit on an aircraft carrier?)

Depends on how large it is and how small the Iranians are

But here you go

Lebanese civilians as human shields

http://www.ajcongress.org/site/DocServer/Part1.pdf?docID=861

Hezbollah's human shields - Washington Times

Hezbollah's human shields

"Israel's bombardment of southern Lebanon was widespread.

"Israeli warplanes launched some 7,000 attacks against targets in Lebanon, supplemented by massive artillery and naval bombardments.[174]

"Israeli air strikes completely destroyed or damaged tens of thousands of homes during its bombing campaign.

"In some villages, homes completely destroyed in the Israeli bombardment numbered in the hundreds: 340 homes completely destroyed in Srifa; 215 homes completely destroyed in Siddiquine; 180 homes complete destroyed in Yatar; 160 homes completely destroyed in Zebqine; more than 750 homes completely destroyed in `Aita al-Sha`ab; more than 800 homes completely destroyed in Bint Jbeil; 140 homes completely destroyed in Taibe.

"The list throughout Lebanon's southern region is extensive.

"According to many people interviewed by Human Rights Watch, much of this destruction-like the massive barrage of cluster munitions fired into southern Lebanon-took place in the final days of the war.

"Although Israel destroyed many of the homes with precision-guided missiles, there is no evidence of a Hezbollah military presence throughout these villages that would have justified this enormous 'collateral damage.'

"As explained above, Human Rights Watch's research indicates that the vast majority of Hezbollah rockets and fighters were placed outside these villages.

"In addition to the targeted strikes against people or homes assumed to be affiliated to Hezbollah, Israel carried out a massive number of strikes on the area from where Hezbollah launched rocket attacks, even if the launchers were long gone, with apparent disregard for possible civilian casualties or the destruction of civilian property..."

"In an article published in Haaretz on April 2, 2007, two senior military correspondents reported that, following the war, an IDF internal investigation found that 'the Artillery Corps shot approximately 170,000 munitions [shells] during the war, most of it [fired] to the approximate direction of the areas of launching. How many Hezbollah people were hit as a result? A senior officer in the Armored Corps says that if it turns out that five were killed he would be surprised.'[177]

"In the vast majority of the cases of civilian homes destroyed by Israeli strikes, the homes were empty, and there were no civilian casualties. However, as mentioned above, many civilians did not leave their villages, and a number of them died inside their houses, their bodies found under the rubble after the end of the war.

"The widespread bombardment showed little attempt to discriminate between military objectives and civilians and civilian structures. Nor does it seem that proper assessments were made of relative anticipated military advantage and civilian harm."

Why They Died | Human Rights Watch

"Israel's bombardment of southern Lebanon was widespread.

Islamic terrorists were widespread. You want to fight a war where the enemy is.

Practice this george - "Duh"

"Israeli warplanes launched some 7,000 attacks against targets in Lebanon, supplemented by massive artillery and naval bombardments".

There was a war being waged.

Practice this george - "Duh"



"

Israeli air strikes completely destroyed or damaged tens of thousands of homes during its bombing campaign.

Consider for a moment, sweetie - if your heroes hizbollocks hadn't started a war, there would have been no damaged or destroyed homes.


Practice this george - "Duh"


As for the rest of your silly cut and paste, Practice this george - "Duh"

 

[georgephillip]

You have failed to produce any definitive un biased evidence of the filastins having lived in the area for millennia, in fact you cant even show if they lived there 150 years ago.

You say you are an Irish Catholic, yet you could be a descendant of a Scots Catholic or an English Catholic as both migrated to Ireland to colonise the almost empty Island.

The Jews can trace their ancestry back to the biblical times and it is unbroken. The filastins can only trace their back 150 years if they are lucky, many can only go back to the 1960's when they migrated to join in the fight against the Jews. How many Syrians were Iraqi's a few short years ago, how many Iraqis were Iranians prior to 1990.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=8453760

Stop being silly little boy.

Actually, the Scots are Celts, particularly in the highlands and these "English" didn't come to the island until the 1100s and were never successfful in colonizing Ireland.

So what as to where you can trace your ancestry back. You can trace it back to Iraq. All you and the Zionists are trying to do is justiy your ethnic cleansing of the NATIVE population.

As for unbiased, all Sayit handed me for proof was the Israel Bureau of Statistcs as transcribed by wiki.

Not all scots are celts, as some came from the anglo Saxons. The majority of the people in northern Ireland are not Irish and came from England and Scotland originally.

I don't need to justify anything as the evidence shows that it is the JEW HATERS and muslims that want to cleanse the M.E of all of the Jews who are the native population at the end of the day. All I and many others want is for the muslims to accept the truth and leave the Israelis to live in peace. And all the evidence points to the filastins having a history of 150 years or less in Palestine, even their greatest leader was an Egyptian.

Israel's founder and "Visionary" of the $tate was born in Hungary:

"Theodor Herzl (Hebrew: תִאוַדָר הֶרְצֵל, Ti'vadar Hertzel; Hungarian: Herzl Tivadar; May 2, 1860 – July 3, 1904), born Benjamin Ze’ev Herzl (Hebrew: בִּנְיָמִין זְאֵב הֶרְצֵל, also known in Hebrew as חוֹזֵה הַמְדִינָה, Khozeh HaMedinah, lit. 'Visionary of the State') was a Jewish journalist and writer from Austria-Hungary.

"He is considered to have been the father of modern political Zionism and in effect the founder of the State of Israel. Herzl formed the World Zionist Organization and promoted Jewish migration to Palestine in an effort to form a Jewish state."

Theodor Herzl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

One of the standard tactics in the maintenance of (Islamic) totalitarianism is ignorance and the invention of external enemies.

Islamics would hope to portray all the world’s ills as the fault of America and/or Israel, or any convenient excuse as this would relieve islamists from accepting responsibility for the disasters they create. But that’s really a hopelessly naïve position. Islamism as a politico-religious ideology has always been at war, either in overt acts of conquest and oppression or the maintenance of oppression.

When did Islam redraw borders on the opposite side of the planet from Mecca?
When was the last time Islam destroyed a nation state to the same extent that Iraq has been destroyed by the US?
Islam has been a victim of industrial warfare since the time of Sykes-Pico at least, and your solution is to blame the victims.
That's beyond naive and totally hopeless.

You have to be kidding, hero. All the Islamists could go back to the Saudi Peninsula where they came from and give all those Muslim dominated countries back to the rightful owners. Starting with Iran, Lebanon..........

When all good Crackers and Christians return to Bethlehem

 

[Hollie]

"Hezbollah was responsible for numerous serious violations of the laws of war during its conflict with Israel. Its fighters indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing 43 Israeli civilians (as well as 12 Israeli soldiers), which is documented in a separate Human Rights Watch report, Civilians under Assault.[71]

"Hezbollah also at times endangered Lebanese civilians by failing to take all feasible precautions to avoid firing rockets from populated areas, mixing with the Lebanese civilian population, and storing weapons and ammunition in populated areas.

"Hezbollah fighters fired rockets on an almost daily basis from the close proximity of UN observer posts in southern Lebanon, an act of shielding, at least in part, that endangered UNIFIL troops by drawing retaliatory Israeli fire on the nearby UN positions.

"Each of these violations is detailed below.Human Rights Watch did not find evidence, however, that the deployment of Hezbollah forces in Lebanon routinely or widely violated the laws of war, as repeatedly alleged by Israel.

"We did not find, for example, that Hezbollah routinely located its rockets inside or near civilian homes.

"Rather, we found strong evidence that Hezbollah had stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys.

"Similarly, while we found that Hezbollah fighters launched rockets from villages on some occasions, and may have committed shielding, a war crime, when it purposefully and repeatedly fired rockets from the vicinity of UN observer posts with the possible intent of deterring Israeli counterfire, we did not find evidence that Hezbollah otherwise fired its rockets from populated areas.

"The available evidence indicates that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started and fired the majority of their rockets from pre-prepared positions in largely unpopulated valleys and fields outside villages.

"Israeli officials have made the serious allegation that Hezbollah routinely used 'human shields' to immunize its forces from attack and thus bears responsibility for the high civilian toll in Lebanon.

"Apart from its position near UN personnel, Human Rights Watch found only a handful of instances of possible shielding behind civilians, but nothing to suggest there was widespread commission of this humanitarian law violation or any Hezbollah policy encouraging such practices.

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks.

Why They Died | Human Rights Watch

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks".


Ummm, george. Lebanese civilians died because your heroes, the Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel.

What part of Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel are you finding difficult to understand?

Mr. George doesn't want to hear that. All he will do is spam another Cut and Paste like he usually does. Imagine if he had no Cuts and Pastes to spam forums with!!!

He has convinced himself that hizbollocks unilaterally starting a war against Israel is Israel's fault; that hizbollocks has an islamo-entitlement to start a war with no downside and that defending yourself against Islamic terrorism is not allowed if you're the Zionist Entity™

 

[Hollie]

When did Islam redraw borders on the opposite side of the planet from Mecca?
When was the last time Islam destroyed a nation state to the same extent that Iraq has been destroyed by the US?
Islam has been a victim of industrial warfare since the time of Sykes-Pico at least, and your solution is to blame the victims.
That's beyond naive and totally hopeless.

You have to be kidding, hero. All the Islamists could go back to the Saudi Peninsula where they came from and give all those Muslim dominated countries back to the rightful owners. Starting with Iran, Lebanon..........

When all good Crackers and Christians return to Bethlehem

Either that or scour the bowels of the web at "MRZine".

 

[SAYIT]

Not all scots are celts, as some came from the anglo Saxons. The majority of the people in northern Ireland are not Irish and came from England and Scotland originally.

I don't need to justify anything as the evidence shows that it is the JEW HATERS and muslims that want to cleanse the M.E of all of the Jews who are the native population at the end of the day. All I and many others want is for the muslims to accept the truth and leave the Israelis to live in peace. And all the evidence points to the filastins having a history of 150 years or less in Palestine, even their greatest leader was an Egyptian.

Your second paragraph really encapsulates the underlying intention of the rabid Jew haters in this thread. Amidst all the phony concern for "Palestinian" Arab beggars and squatters, there is not a peep, not a whimper that addresses the very real cleansing taking place in the Moslem middle east. That is the fulfillment of Nazi Germany's goal in Europe - to make the continent judenrein which islamism has nearly completed across the middle east.

Yes.. Its a shame... There were still Jews in Libya when I was a young adult and they were prosperous.. Today the Jews of Bahrain are very successful merchants.

All 37 of them?

"Bahraini Jews constitute one of the world's smallest Jewish communities. Bahrain was, at one time, home to as many as 1,500 Jews. Today the community has a synagogue and small Jewish cemetery and numbers thirty-seven persons."

History of the Jews in Bahrain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

Depends on how large it is and how small the Iranians are

But here you go

Lebanese civilians as human shields

http://www.ajcongress.org/site/DocServer/Part1.pdf?docID=861

Hezbollah's human shields - Washington Times

Hezbollah's human shields

"Hezbollah was responsible for numerous serious violations of the laws of war during its conflict with Israel. Its fighters indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing 43 Israeli civilians (as well as 12 Israeli soldiers), which is documented in a separate Human Rights Watch report, Civilians under Assault.[71]

"Hezbollah also at times endangered Lebanese civilians by failing to take all feasible precautions to avoid firing rockets from populated areas, mixing with the Lebanese civilian population, and storing weapons and ammunition in populated areas.

"Hezbollah fighters fired rockets on an almost daily basis from the close proximity of UN observer posts in southern Lebanon, an act of shielding, at least in part, that endangered UNIFIL troops by drawing retaliatory Israeli fire on the nearby UN positions.

"Each of these violations is detailed below.Human Rights Watch did not find evidence, however, that the deployment of Hezbollah forces in Lebanon routinely or widely violated the laws of war, as repeatedly alleged by Israel.

"We did not find, for example, that Hezbollah routinely located its rockets inside or near civilian homes.

"Rather, we found strong evidence that Hezbollah had stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys.

"Similarly, while we found that Hezbollah fighters launched rockets from villages on some occasions, and may have committed shielding, a war crime, when it purposefully and repeatedly fired rockets from the vicinity of UN observer posts with the possible intent of deterring Israeli counterfire, we did not find evidence that Hezbollah otherwise fired its rockets from populated areas.

"The available evidence indicates that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started and fired the majority of their rockets from pre-prepared positions in largely unpopulated valleys and fields outside villages.

"Israeli officials have made the serious allegation that Hezbollah routinely used 'human shields' to immunize its forces from attack and thus bears responsibility for the high civilian toll in Lebanon.

"Apart from its position near UN personnel, Human Rights Watch found only a handful of instances of possible shielding behind civilians, but nothing to suggest there was widespread commission of this humanitarian law violation or any Hezbollah policy encouraging such practices.

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks.

Why They Died | Human Rights Watch

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks".


Ummm, george. Lebanese civilians died because your heroes, the Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel.

What part of Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel are you finding difficult to understand?

The same part you never quite grasp.
There would be no need for Hezbollah or Hamas today if 650,000 Jews hadn't driven hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt in 1948.

 

[Hollie]

"Hezbollah was responsible for numerous serious violations of the laws of war during its conflict with Israel. Its fighters indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing 43 Israeli civilians (as well as 12 Israeli soldiers), which is documented in a separate Human Rights Watch report, Civilians under Assault.[71]

"Hezbollah also at times endangered Lebanese civilians by failing to take all feasible precautions to avoid firing rockets from populated areas, mixing with the Lebanese civilian population, and storing weapons and ammunition in populated areas.

"Hezbollah fighters fired rockets on an almost daily basis from the close proximity of UN observer posts in southern Lebanon, an act of shielding, at least in part, that endangered UNIFIL troops by drawing retaliatory Israeli fire on the nearby UN positions.

"Each of these violations is detailed below.Human Rights Watch did not find evidence, however, that the deployment of Hezbollah forces in Lebanon routinely or widely violated the laws of war, as repeatedly alleged by Israel.

"We did not find, for example, that Hezbollah routinely located its rockets inside or near civilian homes.

"Rather, we found strong evidence that Hezbollah had stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys.

"Similarly, while we found that Hezbollah fighters launched rockets from villages on some occasions, and may have committed shielding, a war crime, when it purposefully and repeatedly fired rockets from the vicinity of UN observer posts with the possible intent of deterring Israeli counterfire, we did not find evidence that Hezbollah otherwise fired its rockets from populated areas.

"The available evidence indicates that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started and fired the majority of their rockets from pre-prepared positions in largely unpopulated valleys and fields outside villages.

"Israeli officials have made the serious allegation that Hezbollah routinely used 'human shields' to immunize its forces from attack and thus bears responsibility for the high civilian toll in Lebanon.

"Apart from its position near UN personnel, Human Rights Watch found only a handful of instances of possible shielding behind civilians, but nothing to suggest there was widespread commission of this humanitarian law violation or any Hezbollah policy encouraging such practices.

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks.

Why They Died | Human Rights Watch

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks".


Ummm, george. Lebanese civilians died because your heroes, the Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel.

What part of Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel are you finding difficult to understand?

The same part you never quite grasp.
There would be no need for Hezbollah or Hamas today if 650,000 Jews hadn't driven hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt in 1948.[/Q

Yet another false claim. Your rabid Joooooo hatreds makes you a poor candidate for making rational assessments.

Hamas and Hizzbollocks represent competing subdivisions of a fascist and totalitarian ideology.

You're a bit slow on the uptake so I'm happy to step in and lend an assist. The war currently raging in Syria is a continuation of the 1,400 year old blood feud between two rival tribes of islamist ideology.

Hizzbollocks is the proxy of Iran. Iranians are not Arabs. The Iranian mullocrats are, however, among the most Jew haten'ist Dark Agers on the planet. Their proxy killers in Lebanon, ie:, hizzbollocks, are armed and equipped for Jew killing in accord with the hate and war manual authored by Mo' (swish).

Really, george, you should get a better understanding of islamist ideology before you make such silly comments.

 

[Shaarona]

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks".


Ummm, george. Lebanese civilians died because your heroes, the Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel.

What part of Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel are you finding difficult to understand?

The same part you never quite grasp.
There would be no need for Hezbollah or Hamas today if 650,000 Jews hadn't driven hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt in 1948.[/Q

Yet another false claim. Your rabid Joooooo hatreds makes you a poor candidate for making rational assessments.

Hamas and Hizzbollocks represent competing subdivisions of a fascist and totalitarian ideology.

You're a bit slow on the uptake so I'm happy to step in and lend an assist. The war currently raging in Syria is a continuation of the 1,400 year old blood feud between two rival tribes of islamist ideology.

Hizzbollocks is the proxy of Iran. Iranians are not Arabs. The Iranian mullocrats are, however, among the most Jew haten'ist Dark Agers on the planet. Their proxy killers in Lebanon, ie:, hizzbollocks, are armed and equipped for Jew killing in accord with the hate and war manual authored by Mo' (swish).

Really, george, you should get a better understanding of islamist ideology before you make such silly comments.

As far back as the early 1950s Israel was making incursions into Lebanon to steal topsoil and shooting Lebanese farmers who protested.

And the rivers of Lebanon have always been a problem for the Israelis.

 

[georgephillip]

"These relatively few cases do not begin to account for the Lebanese civilians who died under Israeli attacks".


Ummm, george. Lebanese civilians died because your heroes, the Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel.

What part of Islamic terrorists in Hizbollocks, initiated a war against Israel are you finding difficult to understand?

The same part you never quite grasp.
There would be no need for Hezbollah or Hamas today if 650,000 Jews hadn't driven hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt in 1948.[/Q

Yet another false claim. Your rabid Joooooo hatreds makes you a poor candidate for making rational assessments.

Hamas and Hizzbollocks represent competing subdivisions of a fascist and totalitarian ideology.

You're a bit slow on the uptake so I'm happy to step in and lend an assist. The war currently raging in Syria is a continuation of the 1,400 year old blood feud between two rival tribes of islamist ideology.

Hizzbollocks is the proxy of Iran. Iranians are not Arabs. The Iranian mullocrats are, however, among the most Jew haten'ist Dark Agers on the planet. Their proxy killers in Lebanon, ie:, hizzbollocks, are armed and equipped for Jew killing in accord with the hate and war manual authored by Mo' (swish).

Really, george, you should get a better understanding of islamist ideology before you make such silly comments.

Your prose is positively pathetic.
Why are you wasting bandwidth?
Hasbara much?

 

[Hollie]

The same part you never quite grasp.
There would be no need for Hezbollah or Hamas today if 650,000 Jews hadn't driven hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt in 1948.[/Q

Yet another false claim. Your rabid Joooooo hatreds makes you a poor candidate for making rational assessments.

Hamas and Hizzbollocks represent competing subdivisions of a fascist and totalitarian ideology.

You're a bit slow on the uptake so I'm happy to step in and lend an assist. The war currently raging in Syria is a continuation of the 1,400 year old blood feud between two rival tribes of islamist ideology.

Hizzbollocks is the proxy of Iran. Iranians are not Arabs. The Iranian mullocrats are, however, among the most Jew haten'ist Dark Agers on the planet. Their proxy killers in Lebanon, ie:, hizzbollocks, are armed and equipped for Jew killing in accord with the hate and war manual authored by Mo' (swish).

Really, george, you should get a better understanding of islamist ideology before you make such silly comments.

Your prose in positively pathetic.
Why are you wasting bandwidth?
Hasbara much?

What a shame, george. Without a handy cut and paste from MRZine, youre left to flail about with silly slogans.

 

[georgephillip]

The same part you never quite grasp.
There would be no need for Hezbollah or Hamas today if 650,000 Jews hadn't driven hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt in 1948.[/Q

Yet another false claim. Your rabid Joooooo hatreds makes you a poor candidate for making rational assessments.

Hamas and Hizzbollocks represent competing subdivisions of a fascist and totalitarian ideology.

You're a bit slow on the uptake so I'm happy to step in and lend an assist. The war currently raging in Syria is a continuation of the 1,400 year old blood feud between two rival tribes of islamist ideology.

Hizzbollocks is the proxy of Iran. Iranians are not Arabs. The Iranian mullocrats are, however, among the most Jew haten'ist Dark Agers on the planet. Their proxy killers in Lebanon, ie:, hizzbollocks, are armed and equipped for Jew killing in accord with the hate and war manual authored by Mo' (swish).

Really, george, you should get a better understanding of islamist ideology before you make such silly comments.

As far back as the early 1950s Israel was making incursions into Lebanon to steal topsoil and shooting Lebanese farmers who protested.

And the rivers of Lebanon have always been a problem for the Israelis.

Israel's latest invasion of Lebanon occurred three years after the US assault on Iraq, and was probably intended to occupy southern Lebanon as far as the Litani river. Hezbollah gave the IDF its worse ass whipping to date, and the plan for the New Middle East moved on the Libya. Now, we're back to fragmenting Syria and Lebanon as Iraq dissolves into three separate sub-states.

Soon the world will be presented with a new state in the New Middle East: "Free" Kurdistan, garrisoned by NATO troops with Israel and Turkey protecting its southern and northern borders.

An "arc of instability" will stretch from the eastern Mediterranean to the Caspian sea; arms merchants and oil companies will reap extravagant profits before reaping the whirlwind.