will a nuclear Iran cause WW 3 ?

[JoeB131]

No, dumbass, they are just homicides. Guns don't kill anyone by their lonesome.

They are inert. It takes a person, a violent, murderous, scumbag, to shoot someone without cause.

Or someone who is just having a bad day.

I love my daughter far more than a year gun I own which is why I HAVE guns.

Yet a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

To protect her from the violent pieces of shit that you love.

Except that Americans are far more in danger than their counterparts in Europe, who never have mass shootings in schools, malls, theaters or concerts like we have.

 

[westwall]

Or someone who is just having a bad day.


Yet a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

Except that Americans are far more in danger than their counterparts in Europe, who never have mass shootings in schools, malls, theaters or concerts like we have.

That 43 times lie was proven a lie decades ago.

As far as the rest of your screed, it is BS, just like you.

 

[JoeB131]

That 43 times lie was proven a lie decades ago.

No it wasn't. If anything, the number was probably too low. We have 45,000 gun deaths a year, and only 200 of them are ruled legitimate self-defense by civilians.

 

[westwall]

No it wasn't. If anything, the number was probably too low. We have 45,000 gun deaths a year, and only 200 of them are ruled legitimate self-defense by civilians.

Yes, it was. You have been provided the links and still you trot that crap out and lie.

 

[JoeB131]

That 43 times lie was proven a lie decades ago.

No it wasn't. If anything, the number was probably too low. We have 45,000 gun deaths a year, and only 200 of them are ruled legitimate self-defense by civilians.

Yes, it was. You have been provided the links and still you trot that crap out and lie.

Links from gun-fetishist websites are kind of meaningless to me.

The fact is, DGU's that result in the death of the perp are rare. The FBI only records 200 a year out of some 45,000 gun deaths.

 

[Quasar44]

Hopefully USA would be destroyed by China and Russia

 

[georgephillip]

Just maybe then the palistinians will think twice before they massacre Israeli citizens.

The UN accepted Israel as a member state despite its violation of the don-discrimination clauses of the partition plan and the UN's own condition that Israel permit the return of 700,000 forcibly displaced Palestinian refugees.

The UN also violated its own charter by not calling for free elections in 1948 instead of awarding a minority of Jews a majority of the land.

Jews have no right to self-determination in a territory in which they did not reside but settled, and they have no right to self-defense against Palestinians living in the occupied territories.

October 7th was a pinprick compared to what Israeli Jews will face when they turn their attention to Lebanon after failing to eliminate legitimate resistance to their illegal blockade of Gaza.

Israel and Lebanon are prepping for a war neither wants, but many fear it's becoming inevitable

 

[Rigby5]

with the major sponsor of terror constantly attacking through their proxies will the regime step up its aggression when they get the bomb ? will a nuclear Iran draw the world into WW 3 ? theres no denying that Iran is the major aggressor in the Mid East , imagine how aggressive they will become when they get the bomb !

It’s five minutes past midnight in Armageddon

Washington finds itself in overtime and losing.

thehill.com

Ridiculous.
The "major aggressors" in the Mideast are Israel and the US.
Iran has been there for 5000 years and never been an aggressor.
Since Darius was defeated by the Greeks around 500 BC.

 

[Rigby5]

Of course they would. That’s their objective. Psycho Muslim shit. They think they’re god.

That is just a lie.
Islam is only a very slight reformation of Judaism and is based on the exact same Old Testament.
Jews just keep forgetting they are Arabs.

 

[Rigby5]

Iran can only start a war. It can’t even finish a conventional one, even with Israel.

Iran was never in a war with Israel.

 

[Rigby5]

Just maybe then the palistinians will think twice before they massacre Israeli citizens.

Wrong.
The massacres were started by Menachim Begin in 1946, and the retribution is long over due.
Read some history, like how Menachim Begin murdered the British peacekeeper by blowing up the King David Hotel, so no one could stop him from wiping out hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin.

 

[Rigby5]

Buildings aren't people. There is no genocide. The simple fact is the Palestinians are nasty people, that no Arab country will allow in.

They had a place that was all their own that they could have turned in to another Monaco.

But no, they are violent, obnoxious twats, so they can live in tents.

Wrong.
The Palestinians are the nicest and most muti cultural in the whole Mideast.
They just have been murdered for 80 years and their homes illegally stolen.
Israel has illegally blockaded them into just 15% of Palestine.

 

[Rigby5]

Yet a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

The way that statistic is fake is that most gun deaths are suicides, and most intruder repulsions do not require firing a shot.
It is also skewed in that those who need guns are the ones who live in dangerous neighborhoods, so are most likely to get shot.

 

[Rigby5]

No it wasn't. If anything, the number was probably too low. We have 45,000 gun deaths a year, and only 200 of them are ruled legitimate self-defense by civilians.


Links from gun-fetishist websites are kind of meaningless to me.

The fact is, DGU's that result in the death of the perp are rare. The FBI only records 200 a year out of some 45,000 gun deaths.

That is not accurate.
We have around 32k gun deaths a year, and over half are suicides.

The fact you do not have to kill or even fire a shot to implement self defense, does not mean there are not over a million defensive uses of guns every year in the US.

 

[westwall]

Wrong.
The Palestinians are the nicest and most muti cultural in the whole Mideast.
They just have been murdered for 80 years and their homes illegally stolen.
Israel has illegally blockaded them into just 15% of Palestine.

Then why will no country take them?

DURRRRRR

 

[georgephillip]

Yeah, Israel is turning the place into a parking lot.

For the near future that is the best possible use.

In a few years Gaza will make an excellent park.

Greedy, racist Jews continue 100 years of ethnic cleansing in Palestine; are you surprised Zionist colonization still requires genocide?

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default.../CallLegacyColonialism/CSO/Al-Haq-Annex-3.pdf

"The frenzied ‘Scramble for Africa’ of the 1880s stimulated the beginnings of Zionist colonisation in Palestine.

"As European fortune hunters, prospective settlers, and empire builders raced for Africa, Zionist settlers and would-be state-builders rushed for Palestine.

"Under the influence of the credo of Nationalism then sweeping across Europe, some Jews had come to believe that the religious and alleged racial bonds among Jews constituted a Jewish ‘nationality’and endowed the so-called ‘Jewish nation’ with normal national rights – including the right to separate existence in a territory of its own, and the right to create a Jewish state."

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

That is just a lie.
Islam is only a very slight reformation of Judaism and is based on the exact same Old Testament.
Jews just keep forgetting they are Arabs.

Muhammad didn’t exist until centuries after Christ.
Islamic theocracies want to self-fulfill prophecies of Armageddon. Iran would
love to destroy the world and insist it’s allah’s plan.

 

[georgephillip]

Is Iran really the existential threat Israel claims it is? This author thinks not

In his new book 'Fear and Insecurity,' Jonathan Leslie says Israeli politicians are blowing Iranian nuclear aspirations out of proportion - and they're doing it for the votes

www.timesofisrael.com

Your link:

"Leslie notes that the genesis of Iran’s nuclear program dates to 1957, when the Shah, with the assistance of the United States, began to develop a nuclear program for prestige purposes.

"When Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini came to power with the establishment of the Islamic Republic in 1979, the nuclear program was seen as a decadent relic of the Shah era.

"Following the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war, however, which saw Iran suffer at the hands of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Iranian thinking changed, leading to a gradual development and expansion of an Iranian nuclear program."

It's worth remembering how the US helped Iraq develop those WMD that were used between 1980-'89, and how that worked out for Iraq in 2003.

 

[georgephillip]

The simple fact is if the Palis hadn't terrorized Israel citizens they wouldn't be getting pounded

That's a fact

Here's another fact: If Jews had not been committing ethnic cleansing in Palestine for the last 75 years, Hamas would never have come into existence.

Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

 

[irosie91]

Your link:

"Leslie notes that the genesis of Iran’s nuclear program dates to 1957, when the Shah, with the assistance of the United States, began to develop a nuclear program for prestige purposes.

"When Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini came to power with the establishment of the Islamic Republic in 1979, the nuclear program was seen as a decadent relic of the Shah era.

"Following the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war, however, which saw Iran suffer at the hands of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Iranian thinking changed, leading to a gradual development and expansion of an Iranian nuclear program."

It's worth remembering how the US helped Iraq develop those WMD that were used between 1980-'89, and how that worked out for Iraq in 2003.
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I am fascinated. What weapons of mass destruction were created
in Iraq in conjunction of the USA? What weapons of Mass
destruction were used on Iran by Iraq?