why you should garden

[Dr.Destructo]

Trump wouldn't care. But the greedy, bloodthirsty, money grubbing Dems and Libs would be screaming bloody ******* murder if they aren't getting thier cut.

 

[Woodznutz]

I would love to have a clean acre of land with a house. But I've been stuck in apartments all my adult life and never been able to afford the luxury of having my own place.

I'd love to have flowers, a small bee hive, a few chickens, rabbits, cats, and turkeys.

I'd love to grow squash, melons, asparagus, pumpkins, pears, and peaches.

I'd also be extremely happy with my own pumpkin farm.

That size garden is a helluva lot of work. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

That size garden is a helluva lot of work. Be careful what you wish for.

I used to help my Uncles work their farms. I know full well what it takes.
To me, thats fun. Especially riding the tractor!!!!

Gets expensive though, if you have to buy too much equipment. I dont want anything THAT big. Just enough for me.

 

[Woodznutz]

Trump wouldn't care. But the greedy, bloodthirsty, money grubbing Dems and Libs would be screaming bloody ******* murder if they aren't getting thier cut.

That would double or triple the cost of food, and place health at risk. The reason we have regulations in the first place is because of the irresponsible way people do things.

 

[Woodznutz]

We have that now. They're called "farmers markets".

 

[progressive hunter]

We have that now. They're called "farmers markets".

so I can sell fresh milk and meat there??

 

[Woodznutz]

so I can sell fresh milk and meat there??

Nope, but you can sell all the fruits and vegetables you want.
You can buy uninspected meat and eggs directly from a farmer. Raw milk as well.

If that animal is processed in a local slaughterhouse the plant is inspected by the state, but animals sold privately aren't. I worked in such a plant so I know how it works.

 

[progressive hunter]

Nope, but you can sell all the fruits and vegetables you want.
You can buy uninspected meat and eggs directly from a farmer. Raw milk as well.

If that animal is processed in a local slaughterhouse the premises are under the inspection of the state, but the individual animals aren't.

obviously youre ignorant on the matter,,

 

[Woodznutz]

Nope, but you can sell all the fruits and vegetables you want.

obviously youre ignorant on the matter,,

Are fruits and vegetables sold at farmers markets subject to state inspection?​

The requirement for state inspection of fruits and vegetables sold at farmers markets varies by state. In Washington, for example, certain fruits and vegetables require inspection by the Washington State Department of Agriculture (WSDA) before sale. In Missouri, vendors selling certain foods must have the required license from the Missouri Department of Agriculture (MDA). In Wisconsin, home-canned fruits and vegetables may be sold without a license, but there are specific labeling and sales limits. It is essential for vendors to check with their respective state department for the most accurate and up-to-date information regarding inspection requirements.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=2444...Z0ZyZXNoRnJ1aXRzQW5kVmVnZXRhYmxlcy5wZGY&ntb=1

 

[progressive hunter]

are fruits and vegetables sold at farmers markets subject to state inspection?​

The requirement for state inspection of fruits and vegetables sold at farmers markets varies by state. In Washington, for example, certain fruits and vegetables require inspection by the Washington State Department of Agriculture (WSDA) before sale. In Missouri, vendors selling certain foods must have the required license from the Missouri Department of Agriculture (MDA). In Wisconsin, home-canned fruits and vegetables may be sold without a license, but there are specific labeling and sales limits. It is essential for vendors to check with their respective state department for the most accurate and up-to-date information regarding inspection requirements.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=2444...Z0ZyZXNoRnJ1aXRzQW5kVmVnZXRhYmxlcy5wZGY&ntb=1

you need their permission to sell anything at farmers markets,,
at least any of the ones I have been to,,

and as your link says its not without its limitations

 

[Woodznutz]

you need their permission to sell anything at farmers markets,,
at least any of the ones I have been to,,

and as your link says its not without its limitations

They vary by state. How would fruits and vegetable even be 'inspected' at a farmers' market. Inspected for what?

 

[progressive hunter]

They vary by state. How would fruits and vegetable even be 'inspected' at a farmers' market. Inspected for what?

I never said "inspect"

so you admit what you said is not correct,,

next time think before you talk,,

 

[Woodznutz]

I never said "inspect"

so you admit what you said is not correct,,

next time think before you talk,,

The tangent topic is inspection.

 

[progressive hunter]

The topic is inspection.

the topic is freedom to sell without government permission and control,,

 

[Woodznutz]

the topic is freedom to sell without government permission and control,,

That speaks to retail food safety which is necessary. The OP is just about gardening.

 

[Woodznutz]

"That’s the answer to urban food deserts."

Food deserts are a political construct.

 

[progressive hunter]

That speaks to retail food safety which is necessary. The OP is just about gardening.

the comment you responded to was about government permission and then you changed it to inspection,,

as I said,, next time think before you talk,,

 

[Woodznutz]

the comment you responded to was about government permission and then you changed it to inspection,,

as I said,, next time think before you talk,,

Permission boils down to food safety inspection.

Why government permission is needed to sell food products​

Government permission is essential to sell food products due to the following reasons:

• Consumer Safety: Licensing ensures that food is safe for consumption and that businesses comply with health and safety standards.
  
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• Legal Compliance: Obtaining the necessary licenses and permits is a legal requirement to operate a food business.
  
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• Public Trust: Having a vendor's license can enhance a business's reputation as a legitimate and safe seller of food.
  
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• Regulatory Oversight: Government agencies monitor food safety practices and ensure that businesses comply with health regulations.
  
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  It is crucial for food businesses to understand the specific licensing requirements in their jurisdiction to avoid legal issues and ensure the safety of their customers.
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https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=81f7...dXN0cnkvaG93LXN0YXJ0LWZvb2QtYnVzaW5lc3M&ntb=1
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=3b57...kLWEtbGljZW5zZS1mb3Itc2VsbGluZy1mb29kLw&ntb=1

 

[progressive hunter]

Permission boils down to food safety inspection.

youre dismissed,,

 

[Woodznutz]

youre dismissed,,

Revisit my last post. There is no permission without inspection. Inspection leads to permission.

Joel Salatin's premise is flawed and dangerous. He wants us to reverse a hundred years of progress in food safety.