Why Would US Give a War Guarantee -- to Finland?

So true. This is the War Party of Washington at work. That is why they hated Trump, there was no money in it for them with Trump around.

Insanity rules the day. Ukraine, Finland, Sweden, back into Somalia. Do any of you who don't get it finally get it now?


Seeing Russia invade Ukraine, historically neutral Finland has undergone a late conversion and decided to join NATO immediately.
Why? Because NATO membership means the world's strongest power, the United States, under Article 5 of NATO, would go to war against Russia, should it cross Finland's border.
Nervous about Russian President Vladimir Putin's intentions, Finland wants America legally and morally bound to fight Russia on its behalf, should Putin invade Finland as he invaded Ukraine.
From the Finnish point of view, this is perfectly understandable.
But why would the United States consent to go to war with Russia, the largest nuclear power on earth, for violating Finland's frontiers?
Finland is not Alaska; it is not Canada; it is 5,000 miles away. And no one ever asserted during the Cold War, or for the decades since, that Finland was a U.S. vital interest. Why, then, would we consent, in advance, to go to war with Russia over Finland?
President Joe Biden said last week that NATO has an "open door" policy and Finland and Sweden are welcome, and he looks forward to their joining.
Consider what Biden is actually saying and doing here. He is ceding to Finland, a country of 5.5 million people with an 830-mile border with Putin's Russia, the right to obligate the United States of America to go to war with Russia, if Russia attacks Finland.
What patriot would commit his own country, in perpetuity, to go to war on behalf of another country not his own?
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So true. This is the War Party of Washington at work. That is why they hated Trump, there was no money in it for them with Trump around.

Insanity rules the day. Ukraine, Finland, Sweden, back into Somalia. Do any of you who don't get it finally get it now?


Seeing Russia invade Ukraine, historically neutral Finland has undergone a late conversion and decided to join NATO immediately.
Why? Because NATO membership means the world's strongest power, the United States, under Article 5 of NATO, would go to war against Russia, should it cross Finland's border.
Nervous about Russian President Vladimir Putin's intentions, Finland wants America legally and morally bound to fight Russia on its behalf, should Putin invade Finland as he invaded Ukraine.
From the Finnish point of view, this is perfectly understandable.
But why would the United States consent to go to war with Russia, the largest nuclear power on earth, for violating Finland's frontiers?
Finland is not Alaska; it is not Canada; it is 5,000 miles away. And no one ever asserted during the Cold War, or for the decades since, that Finland was a U.S. vital interest. Why, then, would we consent, in advance, to go to war with Russia over Finland?
President Joe Biden said last week that NATO has an "open door" policy and Finland and Sweden are welcome, and he looks forward to their joining.
Consider what Biden is actually saying and doing here. He is ceding to Finland, a country of 5.5 million people with an 830-mile border with Putin's Russia, the right to obligate the United States of America to go to war with Russia, if Russia attacks Finland.
What patriot would commit his own country, in perpetuity, to go to war on behalf of another country not his own?
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The Washington D.C. crowd just loves it when the nations come crawling, begging & pleading to the D.C. crowd for foreign aid & military protection. I mean it does not cost a single penny out of pocket for the D.C. crowd to play Big Daddy Jehovah to the nations, for the D.C. crowd just debt spends the American constituency into indentured servitude. Like what an ego trip it all is for the narcissistic D.C. crowd for the D.C. crowd gains the praise & worship of the nations, all the while the American constituency dutifully obeys every command the D.C. crowd gives them without a single word of protest from the American constituency! How could it get better for the D.C. crowd?!!!
 
Turkey has been an unreliable ally and fence sitter since the Islamic Hard liners started getting control of the country.

They play to Russia economically and with shared military technology while still being a NATO ally.

They even refused to let US forces come through Turkey to get into N. Iraq to protect the Kurds and link up with their forces whom Saddam had been trying to exterminate off and on for decades.
Yeah, heaven forbid they have their own interests and their own agenda. . .

:rolleyes:
 
Finland Sorority sisters just compromised their peace and now Russia has short range nukes on their border
 
It was from a Syrian perspective.
Which "Syrian," perspective? Do all Syrians believe that Turkish intervention is a problem? Or just the Kurdish terrorists that hide in Syria across the border?

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It is well past time to get out of NATO. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, we should have told Europe to take a few years to build up defenses and then they would be on their own. The Fins whole schtick has been to pretend to be neutral, while secretly aiding the country in a conflict that is the most ruthless and therefore the most feared by the Fins.

We dont' need to spend any American blood defending them.
 
After seeing the piss poor performance of the Russian military in Ukraine it looks like we don't really need NATO . Just about any modern military could kick their ass.

If it wasn't for their nukes they would be a joke.
 
After seeing the piss poor performance of the Russian military in Ukraine it looks like we don't really need NATO . Just about any modern military could kick their ass.

If it wasn't for their nukes they would be a joke.

Those dang nukes.
 
No shit, yet we are declaring war on Russia on behalf of Ukraine and Biden is pushing for them to be in NATO eventually.

We just sent $50 billion to them which is more than we spent in Afghanistan in a year.
. . . and more than we spent making sure our own infants are fed. . . .
 
Good question from the article -
"A basic question needs answering: Why, 30 years after the Cold War ended, are we still expanding NATO?

Russia does not threaten the United States. As for any threat that it poses to its European neighbors, let them deal with it. Together, NATO Europe is far more populous and economically powerful than Russia, and militarily capable of providing for their own defense.

Why should this be our obligation more than 30 years after the Cold War — and counting?"
 
Good question from the article -
"A basic question needs answering: Why, 30 years after the Cold War ended, are we still expanding NATO?

Russia does not threaten the United States. As for any threat that it poses to its European neighbors, let them deal with it. Together, NATO Europe is far more populous and economically powerful than Russia, and militarily capable of providing for their own defense.

Why should this be our obligation more than 30 years after the Cold War — and counting?"

The MIC must be fed!!
 

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