Why would God have a problem with abortion, when God commands the killing of babies in the Bible?

[BluesLegend]

Why just dems?

Because they are godless heathens who break the 10 commandments daily.

 

[initforme]

Because they are godless heathens who break the 10 commandments daily.

Ok. Gotcha. So reTHUGlicans are godly.

 

[BluesLegend]

Ok. Gotcha. So reTHUGlicans are godly.

Democrats are unrepentant, or too dumb to repent it's still being discussed.

 

[initforme]

Democrats are unrepentant, or too dumb to repent it's still being discussed.

Im so glad im not party affiliated. Above that bigly.

 

[Midnight FM]

Because they are godless heathens who break the 10 commandments daily.

Yawn. You're a Godless heathen and aren't a Christian, or aware of what Christ had to say about how the Old Testament was to be interpreted in modern times.

A Comprehensive Guide to Biblical Principles on Taxation - The Bible Stories

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The Old Testament required citizens of Israel to pay taxes to the state.

You can't love wealth and Christ at the same time:

Matthew 6:24 - The Lamp of the Body

No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

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“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Other than Dems burning in hell, I guess it's not.

The Bible says you're going to hell, because you made it clear you love money, not Christ. I just proved it.

 

[Kondor3]

NO real Christian would say the old testament is irrelevant…EVER. God isn’t the beta male pajama pant wearing barista boy that lefties want to believe he is…He is no push-over, he is a vengeful God.

There is no God but God, and Jesus is His Prophet - and his Divine Spirit Incarnate.

The God of My Understanding is all-powerful and all-merciful and all-forgiving and otherwise beyond our ken.

The God of My Understanding would never command men to slay their fellow man.

The Old Testament is more like the Chronicle of the Early Jews, written by men, using mens' ideas and old fables.

It incorporates elements drawn from many civilizations of the Middle East including a cloned Babylonian Creation Story.

It speaks with the loves and hates and prejudices and weaknesses of Men trying to explain their world and the godhead.

And then along comes Jesus of Nazareth who basically says... "Forget all that old stuff... that's not what God wants of you."

The guy taught "Love Thy Neighbor" and "Turn the Other Cheek" and "Do Unto Others" and good and Godly stuff like that.

He taught it so well that He proposed an entirely New Testament, respecting the old, but with a newer, kinder "take" on God.

A New Testament that His followers eventually scripted from memory and emphasizing the New while honoring the Old.

The God of My Understanding would not want His Believers to stray from the teachings of Jesus to revisit the Old Testament.

The Old Testament is not "irrelevant" but it has been largely superceded and is only useful to apply under circumstances where the New Testament is silent on a given salient point of sufficient importance that the Old must be leaned-upon.

Your mileage may vary.

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A long-winded way of saying that unless the NEW Testament has something to say on the subject that I will not be leaning on the old and superceded and more primitive and earthly narrative to take spiritual guidance... even on abortion.

And I will certainly not conjure-up juicy rationalizations for abortion based upon some ancient event and supposed Divine Command which probably never came to pass and which would require a humongous "stretch" to connect those dots.

Finally... I view it as highly ironic and hilarious that the same Godless, soul-less, God-denying LibTards who throw rocks at Christians 24x7... have the misplaced audacity to try to invoke the godhead when arguing abortion with their opposites.

 

[initforme]

The meek, the poor. Shall, by themselves, inherit the earth.

 

[BrokeLoser]

There is no God but God, and Jesus is His Prophet - and his Divine Spirit Incarnate.

The God of My Understanding is all-powerful and all-merciful and all-forgiving and otherwise beyond our ken.

The God of My Understanding would never command men to slay their fellow man.

The Old Testament is more like the Chronicle of the Early Jews, written by men, using mens' ideas and old fables.

It incorporates elements drawn from many civilizations of the Middle East including a cloned Babylonian Creation Story.

It speaks with the loves and hates and prejudices and weaknesses of Men trying to explain their world and the godhead.

And then along comes Jesus of Nazareth who basically says... "Forget all that old stuff... that's not what God wants of you."

The guy taught "Love Thy Neighbor" and "Turn the Other Cheek" and "Do Unto Others" and good and Godly stuff like that.

He taught it so well that he proposed an entirely New Testament, respecting the old, but with a newer, kinder "take" on God.

A New Testament that his followers eventually scripted from memory and emphasizing the New while honoring the Old.

The God of My Understanding would not want His Believers to stray from the teachings of Jesus to revisit the Old Testament.

Your mileage may vary.

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A long-winded way of saying that unless the NEW Testament has something to say on the subject that I will not be leaning on the old and superceded and more primitive and earthly narrative to take spiritual guidance... even on abortion.

Taking such a position discredits God’s word all together.
If the Old Testament was later determined to be nothing but fables well then certainly at some point in the future the New Testament could be seen the same way….right?

 

[BluesLegend]

Yawn. You're a Godless heathen and aren't a Christian

Okay Pilot, whatever you say.

 

[Midnight FM]

If the Old Testament was later determined to be nothing but fables well then certainly at some point in the future the New Testament could be seen the same way….right?

You yourself have already discredited the New Testament. You're going to Hell, because you've rejected Christ's message of turning the other cheek rather than seeking revenge.

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:38-40 - New International Version

Eye for Eye - “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

www.biblegateway.com

So we don't need to worry about that.

 

[Midnight FM]

Okay Pilot, whatever you say.

I just proved you're not a Christian. You love money instead of God. See my other thread:

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Thread 'Is being a Republican incompatible with being a Christian?'

Aug 7, 2025

It's clear that one of the primary teachings of Christ was that greed and loving wealth is incompatible with loving Christ and being a Christian.

“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Matthew 6 NIV

24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”...

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[BluesLegend]

I just proved you're not a Christian. You love money instead of God. See my other thread:

God made me 10x smarter than you. I earned a crap ton of money because God wanted me to. Unlike cheap ass Dem scum I give a substantial portion away each and every month.

Now, go search Amazon for fireproof clothing, you will need it in the afterlife.

 

[NotYankee]

It's not today, abortion has always existed. The only difference is that we have more modern methods of facilitating it.


Doesn't work that way. Homosexuality has always existed. Even though homosexual behavior was punished by death in the Old Testament (likely because it was viewed as a source of disease, which is why it only mentioned homosexual males), there were many behaviors punished by death, such as picking up sticks on that Sabbath.


Who said it wasn't?


They were cultists and deserved it. Who cares? The children were probably better off dead than in a cult anyway.

For Midnight FM: His culture, opinions/words and possibly actions: are are they earning oblivion beyond this life?

 

[NotYankee]

Nope. It has nothing to do with modern times, and everything to do with a descendant of Amalek. Had Saul heeded God's advice, Haman would not have been born and consequently try to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth. It had absolutely nothing to do with abortion.

Amalek was a son of Esau, and His name means Gold is my MighyOne.
Furhermore, about 134 B.C. the King of Yehuda Israel conquered Edom and offered to let them live if they converted, which they cheerfully did. Thereafer, the kings of Yehuda Israel had shorter and shorter lives, and the Edomite Priests ruled the Temple etc. The Edomite King Herrod ruled too and they managed to get Christ slandered, tortured and killed. Thereafter the Edomite Pharisees, Priests etc. went after Christians, until 70 A.D. When the Roman Army destroyed them leaving no stone unturned.
Later on the Edomites of Rome were able to maneuver Roman Christians into being tortued and killed. Thus, the Roman Chuch was ripe for the Edomites of Rome to take it over, which they did.

 

[Kondor3]

Taking such a position discredits God’s word all together.

Disagree.

If the Old Testament was later determined to be nothing but fables well then certainly at some point in the future the New Testament could be seen the same way….right?

Correct.

The one saving grace, however, is that the New Testament has been corroborated in large part by multiple witnesses (disciples or apostles) writing at different times in different regions long after the death of Jesus and long after their own ministries had begun.

Therefore, I trust the New Testament, and the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, as both spiritual guideline and corroborated historical documentation of the earliest Christian ministry and its objectives and outcomes.

I consider such large-scale corroboration as a sort of Quality Control mechanism and Veracity Detector.

The Old Testament is part Morality Play and part Historical Narrative on Early Jewish History and part plagiarizing of the work of other bards and storytellers across the Middle East. It may be Divinely inspired but I take it with several grains of salt vs. the New.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Disagree.


Correct.

The one saving grace, however, is that the New Testament has been corroborated in large part by multiple witnesses (disciples or apostles) writing at different times in different regions long after the death of Jesus and long after their own ministries had begun.

Therefore, I trust the New Testament, and the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, as both spiritual guideline and corroborated historical documentation of the earliest Christian ministry and its objectives and outcomes.

I consider such large-scale corroboration as a sort of Quality Control mechanism and Veracity Detector.

The Old Testament is part Morality Play and part Historical Narrative on Early Jewish History and part plagiarizing of the work of other bards and storytellers across the Middle East. It may be Divinely inspired but I take it with several grains of salt vs. the New.

Odd perspective.
I’ll ask; is Genesis 19 fact or fiction?

 

[BackAgain]

The entire bible is just sick. If you read it like I have from old testament on through you'd throw it in the fire!

Killing babies is just sad.

It’s worse than just “sad.”

I assume you have view on abortion that corresponds with your view on killing babies?

 

[BackAgain]

Okay Pilot, whatever you say.

That ^ is an interesting theory.

 

[Kondor3]

Odd perspective. I’ll ask; is Genesis 19 fact or fiction?

I genuinely do not know for certain.

Insofar as I am aware there is considerable disagreement regarding the location and the historical validity of that event.

And I am having a very difficult time believing that God would destroy an entire city because of the Bad People within it, never mind multiple cities. None of that sorts well with the assurance of Jesus that The Father is all-forgiving and all-merciful and good.

 

[playtime]

Catholics call it "temporal punishment". Its a very convoluted concept. Better bank a shitload of indulgences.

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i was baptized a catholic & grew up in the RC church. came to realize that the history & political slant is not what being spiritual really means.