Why would an omnipotent God need Moses, Abraham or Mohammed?

[Steven_R]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

So part of God's plan for His most beloved of creations is to inflict all kinds of evil and pain on them for His own ends?

Said it before, say it again...God works in mysterious, dickish ways.

Does a a personal trainer inflict evil and pain on people for his own end?

Achy muscles is totally the same thing as pediatric leukemia, natural disasters, and allowing bloody wars in His name. I'm sure when a mother dies she's met by St. Peter who says, "sorry about your baby, but think of the personal growth opportunities you had."

 

[The Irish Ram]

If we were capable of reaching good on our own (works) then Christ would never have died on the cross, and He wouldn't be coming back to prevent us from destroying mankind all together. We get worse, not better as time goes on. If good cannot exist without evil then God would not remove evil. He is going to remove evil. It's like saying you can't enjoy chocolate unless you drink some vinegar first. You don't need evil to enjoy good.

 

[Meriweather]

Achy muscles is totally the same thing as pediatric leukemia, natural disasters, and allowing bloody wars in His name. I'm sure when a mother dies she's met by St. Peter who says, "sorry about your baby, but think of the personal growth opportunities you had."

Are you saying that if pediatric leukemia strikes, no one is capable of loving that child? When I lived in an area that was prone to flooding, my family lost all feeling for me? Are you seriously suggesting that God cannot use joy for personal growth?

 

[Steven_R]

So the God of Love kills off my family members so I can learn to love?

 

[onefour1]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

God doesn't need us. He concerns himself with us because he loves us. We are his offspring. He cares about us. He wants us to become like him. And to do that, he gives us free will just as he has. But he won't allow evil to dominate goodness. He not only is a loving God but a just and lawfully good God as well. It is only wisdom that man learn of him and come to know him.

John 17:3
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

 

[onefour1]

So the God of Love kills off my family members so I can learn to love?

He also gives them immortal life and allows you to enjoy them for eternity. This mortal life is not a permanent end all situation. At some point you will come to know that he is truly a God of love.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Why would an omnipotent God need Moses, Abraham or Mohammed?"

Because there is no 'god' as perceived by theists; religion and 'god' are creations of man, reflecting man's faults and failings – such as ridiculous, illogical myths about 'prophets.'

 

[Steven_R]

So the God of Love kills off my family members so I can learn to love?

He also gives them immortal life and allows you to enjoy them for eternity. This mortal life is not a permanent end all situation. At some point you will come to know that he is truly a God of love.

That's just terrible. What kind of a god inflicts the kind of pain and torment on his chosen children just so they can appreciate the hereafter? Get raped, lose a child, die in a mudslide, die in a war...it's all good because you're really just paying your dues.

Despicable.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

sheeeesh hashev----leave those poor Christians alone----my dear friend, Penelope is a
Christian-----catholic, no less but not an easter bunny worshipper----she just does the 'HATE DA JOOOOOOS" part

If Penelope is a Catholic - she is not a Christian. You can be one or the other but not both, Rosie.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

So part of God's plan for His most beloved of creations is to inflict all kinds of evil and pain on them for His own ends?

Said it before, say it again...God works in mysterious, dickish ways.

tell me, how is Lucifer a god of love, compassion, kindness, mercy when he demands human blood sacrifice and the murder of people - even infants, Steven R? I have never heard you make any comments on the contradiction for what he demands and what he claims about himself. Don't you find it strange? Even the height of hypocrisy?

 

[Avatar4321]

So the God of Love kills off my family members so I can learn to love?

What is death when God has already promised us immortality through the resurrection?

 

[HaShev]

Jeremiah said: If Penelope is a Catholic - she is not a Christian

That's just not true, Christians are anyone who follow the one they call Christ or believe he was the christ.
Ironically and to be even more politically correct Christianity is a blanket term for following a christ figure even if the many factions followed different christs.
Note James and Paul seemed to be at odds claiming each wss worshiping another christ figure then they were.
Jesus is an image of a man which was made up of many christ characters not just one historical real one.
RCC may not follow to your liking but they gave you the fable of christ and all your sects no matter how they distance from the church bought the fable hook line and sinker like the good little fish they are and the reason why the church proudly says it's the fisher of men, because they got you on their line no matter how you wiggle and struggle they still will devour you with the fishman god fable.
Dagon the fishman god seen in Mitre hats (fishead hats),scales designed in their robes and Popes fishman god ring.
Baal was the son of Dagon, he replaced his father when people lost interest in fish and turned to harvest and seeds scams, Baals son was the morning star who in Canaanite rites needed to die (dying god mythology) to surpass his father on the throne, once again a mere mask new name for the same mythology, hence the term father and son are one. In Rev 22:16 they admit they are selling Baal worship through his fallen son. The Baal cross is used throughout Christianity as well as the harvest seeds scam.
So all sects are following the same adversary except maybe JW's and Adventist who are partially confused, but not worshiping the false prophet.

 

[hangover]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

My way? Your way is much worse. Eternal evil....shows who you worship. Revelations must not be in the Mormon bible.

So you thing evil was created ?

How is my way worse? It's not my way. It's just reality. God is good. God is Eternal. Good is Eternal.

Good and evil can only be defined with the existence of the other.there is opposition in all things. Ergo, Evil has always existed because good ways has.

Revelations isn't in any bible and isn't relevant to the topic

Don't know about the mormon bible, but in the rest is says that God created "ALL" things, that includes evil. There is nothing that exists that God didn't create.

 

[BreezeWood]

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the Triumph is what is important Good vs Evil ( and obviously the correct one - Judgement ), otherwise live as though there is no God because there will not be one or imortality for those who fail and or for humanity itself.

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[Avatar4321]

If God has the power to create the universe, there is no need to have humans do his bidding. If God wants people to be Christians or Muslims or any other religion, there wouldn't be any other religion except the one God wanted. But it's not God that makes religion, it's people. If God wants something done, God doesn't need people to do it for him. God doesn't need anyone to speak for him...or her...or them(Genesis 3:22)

An omnipotent being doesn't need a war to end evil. It was created it with a thought, and can end it the same way. But God allows it to do it's purpose, which gives a choice. The function of evil is to destroy, so logically it will destroy itself. Just like if someone becomes evil, they destroy themselves.

End evil? Evil is a counter point for good. Good cannot exist without evil and vice versa. We cannot be good without choosing it over evil.

Good and evil are eternal states of being. They have always existed. How do I know? Because God is Eternal. He is good and He has always existed. If good has always existed, so has its opposite.

The plan of redemption was put in place because all of us do evil at some point. If God were to appear to us in our fallen state we would be destroyed for our corruptness cannot exist in His Holy presence.

So God calls and prepares men to teach us His plan. So that we might prepare ourselves through the atonement of His Son to enter into His presence. We can be purified and born again with a New nature.

If God did things your way, we would all be immediately killed. Personally I am.glad the Lord has mercy on us to give us a probationary period to repent and come to Him

My way? Your way is much worse. Eternal evil....shows who you worship. Revelations must not be in the Mormon bible.

So you thing evil was created ?

How is my way worse? It's not my way. It's just reality. God is good. God is Eternal. Good is Eternal.

Good and evil can only be defined with the existence of the other.there is opposition in all things. Ergo, Evil has always existed because good ways has.

Revelations isn't in any bible and isn't relevant to the topic

Don't know about the mormon bible, but in the rest is says that God created "ALL" things, that includes evil. There is nothing that exists that God didn't create.

Creates is an interesting word. Try reading the king Follett sermon sometime.