Why Won't Democrats Investigate Joe Biden's Quid Pro Quo with Ukraine?

[HaShev]

I'm hopeful that Barr, Durham, Huber, and Horowitz will also get into the apparent QPQ from Joe Biden whereby he got the Ukraine to stop investigating Burisma and the Soros organization.
The original prosecutor (Shokin) was doing a real investigation into Burisma before Biden had him stopped and then the 2nd prosecutor (Lutsenko) stopped all investigations. So the claims that Biden fired Shokin for lack of effort is total bullshit. Biden had all investigations into Burisma and the Soros organization stopped, while Hunter got paid $83,000 a month. No QPQ here?!
Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

Plus when they went to our FBI to report this abuse of power they would not take the info or file any investigation. That just adds to the corruption evidence and compromise of our investigative agencies when it comes to anything Soros or swamp critter.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Because he didn’t seek personal benefit. He was working in the nation’s interest and was fully supported by the State Department in his open and transparent actions.


Moron.

Joe Biden received personal benefit , QUID PRO QUO when he threatened, (and we DO have this on tape ) to withhold funds from Ukraine.

Moron? Really?

nice way to interact with members...

Yes. Moron. If you believe that Joe Biden acted for personal benefit with regard to forcing Ukraine to shitcan their corrupt and ineffective prosecutor....and the ******* GOP led committees in congress did nothing about it when they had the power to subpoena him for hearings, you are a moron.

You do know that the fired Ukrainian prosecutor had opened an investigation into Burisma, the energy company which Biden's son was receiving payment. right?

"Shokin told Solomon and ABC News, and swore in a deposition, that he was fired because he would not stop the Burisma probe. “In fact, Shokin alleges, he was making plans to interview Hunter Biden about his Burisma work and payments when he got the axe.”

Biden-Burisma Scandal Deepens; Hunter Biden, Burisma Tied To Obama State Dept.

If that was quid pro quo on Joe Biden's part, I don't know what is. Are they not telling you about this shit on CNN, MSNBC, or whatever news you're watching?

Nope. We wanted that prosecutor fired because he was not effectively prosecuting corruption. Even in the Burisma case.

Sorry. Biden is clean here.

Moron.

 

[White_MAGA_Man]

Because he didn’t seek personal benefit. He was working in the nation’s interest and was fully supported by the State Department in his open and transparent actions.


Moron.

Joe Biden received personal benefit , QUID PRO QUO when he threatened, (and we DO have this on tape ) to withhold funds from Ukraine.

Moron? Really?

nice way to interact with members...

Yes. Moron. If you believe that Joe Biden acted for personal benefit with regard to forcing Ukraine to shitcan their corrupt and ineffective prosecutor....and the ******* GOP led committees in congress did nothing about it when they had the power to subpoena him for hearings, you are a moron.

You do know that the fired Ukrainian prosecutor had opened an investigation into Burisma, the energy company which Biden's son was receiving payment. right?

"Shokin told Solomon and ABC News, and swore in a deposition, that he was fired because he would not stop the Burisma probe. “In fact, Shokin alleges, he was making plans to interview Hunter Biden about his Burisma work and payments when he got the axe.”

Biden-Burisma Scandal Deepens; Hunter Biden, Burisma Tied To Obama State Dept.

If that was quid pro quo on Joe Biden's part, I don't know what is. Are they not telling you about this shit on CNN, MSNBC, or whatever news you're watching?

Nope. We wanted that prosecutor fired because he was not effectively prosecuting corruption. Even in the Burisma case.

Sorry. Biden is clean here.

Moron.

Biden is corrupt to the core.

 

[JGalt]

Because there was no personal gain involved

Unlike what Trump did

What "personal gain" would that be?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Because he didn’t seek personal benefit. He was working in the nation’s interest and was fully supported by the State Department in his open and transparent actions.


Moron.

Joe Biden received personal benefit , QUID PRO QUO when he threatened, (and we DO have this on tape ) to withhold funds from Ukraine.

Moron? Really?

nice way to interact with members...

Yes. Moron. If you believe that Joe Biden acted for personal benefit with regard to forcing Ukraine to shitcan their corrupt and ineffective prosecutor....and the ******* GOP led committees in congress did nothing about it when they had the power to subpoena him for hearings, you are a moron.

You do know that the fired Ukrainian prosecutor had opened an investigation into Burisma, the energy company which Biden's son was receiving payment. right?

"Shokin told Solomon and ABC News, and swore in a deposition, that he was fired because he would not stop the Burisma probe. “In fact, Shokin alleges, he was making plans to interview Hunter Biden about his Burisma work and payments when he got the axe.”

Biden-Burisma Scandal Deepens; Hunter Biden, Burisma Tied To Obama State Dept.

If that was quid pro quo on Joe Biden's part, I don't know what is. Are they not telling you about this shit on CNN, MSNBC, or whatever news you're watching?

Nope. We wanted that prosecutor fired because he was not effectively prosecuting corruption. Even in the Burisma case.

Sorry. Biden is clean here.

Moron.

Biden is corrupt to the core.

OK. Cool.

 

[kyzr]

Because there was no personal gain involved

Unlike what Trump did

What "personal gain" would that be?

For the Bidens about $83,000 a month from Burisma, plus a $1.5b "investment" from China.
Giuliani slams ‘pattern of corruption’ in Obama’s cabinet, wants Bidens’ financial records

 

[LoneLaugher]

Moron Trombies: The Dems know they can’t beat Trump in an election so they accuse him of corruption.

Also Moron Trombies: Biden is corrupt.

 

[The Original Tree]

Same reason they wouldn’t investigate the origin of The Dirty Dossier. Both lead to The Ukraine and they’d be investigating themselves.

Joe Biden publicly, on video, stated that in 2016 he threatened Ukraine with the loss of $1 billion in loan guarantees if Ukraine didn't fire its chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was in charge of the investigation into the Ukrainian company Burisma. After the investigation into Burisma began, Burisma hired the totally unqualified Hunter Biden for the whopping salary of $50K per month. Hunter Biden, by his own admission, had no qualifications for the job. In response to Joe Biden's threat to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees, the Ukrainian government fired Shokin, and the next prosecutor obligingly and quickly exonerated Burisma.

Democrats and some phony conservatives argue that technically Shokin was not investigating Burisma at the time because the investigation was supposedly "dormant." First off, Shokin himself has debunked that claim--he says the investigation was not dormant. But, even if it had been, a "dormant" investigation is still an investigation, not a closed one. As Marc Thiessen has pointed out,

First, the phrase "dormant" means, by definition, that an investigation into Burisma existed and was not closed. Second, we don't know for certain that the Burisma investigation was, in fact, "dormant." Shokin has sworn in an affidavit it was not. (Why is the media bending over backward to absolve the Bidens of wrongdoing? | Marc Thiessen)​

Let's recap: Shokin opens an investigation into Burisma. Burisma hires Hunter Biden. Joe Biden comes to Ukraine and threatens to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees if Shokin is not fired. Poroshenko caves into Biden's threat and fired Shokin. The next prosecutor quickly exonerates Burisma, which employs Hunter Biden. Now, what do you call that? Hey? What is that? Quid Pro Quo, that's what it is.

So why won't Democrats investigate this shady episode? And why are they upset because Trump wants Ukraine to look into this shady series of events? Why did Biden lie about not discussing his son's Burisma dealings with him? Why have so many documents and other evidence emerged that plainly contradict Biden's story?

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

Newly Obtained Documents from Burisma's Legal Team, State Dept and Ukrainian Government Torpedo Joe Biden's Story

Emails Reveal Burisma Consulting Firm Leveraged Hunter Biden To Get State Dept. Meetings

Burisma Consultant Contacted State Department Over Hunter Biden Concerns: Emails

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

Burisma Timeline Just Leads To More Questions About Hunter Biden

Diplomat Testified Obama Admin Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor's Ouster

Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review

Ukrainian MP Reports Biden Received $900K from Burisma for Lobbying Activities

Pics Cast Doubt on Joe Biden's Claim That He Didn't Discuss His Son's Business With Him

NEW: State Department Official Reveals He Approached Joe Biden About Hunter Biden's Dealings In 2015

 

[LoneLaugher]

Because there was no personal gain involved

Unlike what Trump did

What "personal gain" would that be?

For the Bidens about $83,000 a month from Burisma, plus a $1.5b "investment" from China.
Giuliani slams ‘pattern of corruption’ in Obama’s cabinet, wants Bidens’ financial records

Hunter Biden used his name to get a job.

The 1.5b from China claim is another case of morons grossly misrepresenting facts.

 

[The Original Tree]

Obama Dumped a lot of shit in the DOJ and FBI and didn’t even bother to wipe his ass when he was done. Once The President is free to flush the toilet there things will smell a whole lot better.

Things would smell a whole lot better here if we flushed you too.

Joe Biden publicly, on video, stated that in 2016 he threatened Ukraine with the loss of $1 billion in loan guarantees if Ukraine didn't fire its chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was in charge of the investigation into the Ukrainian company Burisma. After the investigation into Burisma began, Burisma hired the totally unqualified Hunter Biden for the whopping salary of $50K per month. Hunter Biden, by his own admission, had no qualifications for the job. In response to Joe Biden's threat to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees, the Ukrainian government fired Shokin, and the next prosecutor obligingly and quickly exonerated Burisma.

Democrats and some phony conservatives argue that technically Shokin was not investigating Burisma at the time because the investigation was supposedly "dormant." First off, Shokin himself has debunked that claim--he says the investigation was not dormant. But, even if it had been, a "dormant" investigation is still an investigation, not a closed one. As Marc Thiessen has pointed out,

First, the phrase "dormant" means, by definition, that an investigation into Burisma existed and was not closed. Second, we don't know for certain that the Burisma investigation was, in fact, "dormant." Shokin has sworn in an affidavit it was not. (Why is the media bending over backward to absolve the Bidens of wrongdoing? | Marc Thiessen)​

Let's recap: Shokin opens an investigation into Burisma. Burisma hires Hunter Biden. Joe Biden comes to Ukraine and threatens to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees if Shokin is not fired. Poroshenko caves into Biden's threat and fired Shokin. The next prosecutor quickly exonerates Burisma, which employs Hunter Biden. Now, what do you call that? Hey? What is that? Quid Pro Quo, that's what it is.

So why won't Democrats investigate this shady episode? And why are they upset because Trump wants Ukraine to look into this shady series of events? Why did Biden lie about not discussing his son's Burisma dealings with him? Why have so many documents and other evidence emerged that plainly contradict Biden's story?

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

Newly Obtained Documents from Burisma's Legal Team, State Dept and Ukrainian Government Torpedo Joe Biden's Story

Emails Reveal Burisma Consulting Firm Leveraged Hunter Biden To Get State Dept. Meetings

Burisma Consultant Contacted State Department Over Hunter Biden Concerns: Emails

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

Burisma Timeline Just Leads To More Questions About Hunter Biden

Diplomat Testified Obama Admin Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor's Ouster

Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review

Ukrainian MP Reports Biden Received $900K from Burisma for Lobbying Activities

Pics Cast Doubt on Joe Biden's Claim That He Didn't Discuss His Son's Business With Him

NEW: State Department Official Reveals He Approached Joe Biden About Hunter Biden's Dealings In 2015

Trump runs the Justice Department

Why has he done nothing in the last three years?

 

[rightwinger]

Democrats will NEVER cooperate with an investigation that might lead to any of their key members going to jail.

How bout we do this?

Joe Biden will testify under oath right after Trump does the same?

sure sure he will............LOL

What are Republicans afraid of?

Let’s have them BOTH testify under oath

 

[rightwinger]

Because there was no personal gain involved

Unlike what Trump did

What "personal gain" would that be?

For the Bidens about $83,000 a month from Burisma, plus a $1.5b "investment" from China.
Giuliani slams ‘pattern of corruption’ in Obama’s cabinet, wants Bidens’ financial records

Hunter Biden used his name to get a job.

The 1.5b from China claim is another case of morons grossly misrepresenting facts.

Lucky his name wasn’t TRUMP

 

[edward37]

Because there was no personal gain involved

Unlike what Trump did

What "personal gain" would that be?

For the Bidens about $83,000 a month from Burisma, plus a $1.5b "investment" from China.
Giuliani slams ‘pattern of corruption’ in Obama’s cabinet, wants Bidens’ financial records

Hunter Biden used his name to get a job.

The 1.5b from China claim is another case of morons grossly misrepresenting facts.

Lucky his name wasn’t TRUMP

Nunes wants Schiff to testify ?
Schiff says "I'll testify AFTER all of those we subpoenaed show up and testify, ************!"

 

[Kondor3]

Why Won't Democrats Investigate Joe Biden's Quid Pro Quo with Ukraine?

Hmmmm... because Old Joe is not a sitting President of the United States, accused of Abuse of Power?

Hell... investigate Old Joe too... lock him up for all I care... AFTER we sort-out the Trump 'abuse' thing.

 

[Third Party]

Because he didn’t seek personal benefit. He was working in the nation’s interest and was fully supported by the State Department in his open and transparent actions.


Moron.

NO-it was worse than Trump's transcript, for sure.

No. It wasn’t. He was doing something to benefit America. Out in the open and at the behest of our State Department. Change the channel.

Trump used the power of his office for personal gain. He will be impeached for it. You may as well accept that fact.

No,no benefit for America-only the DEMOCRATS-open your eyes! You are a hater so go in the corner and keep quiet-you have nothing useful to add.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Why Won't Democrats Investigate Joe Biden's Quid Pro Quo with Ukraine?

Hmmmm... because Old Joe is not a sitting President of the United States, accused of Abuse of Power?

Hell... investigate Old Joe too... lock him up for all I care... AFTER we sort-out the Trump 'abuse' thing.

While I agree with the sentiment that anyone who commits crimes or abuses office should be held accountable, I caution against starting investigations without suitable predicate.

Investigations begun without just cause are what we see in places with no rule of law.

There is no evidence that Joe Biden has committed any crime. There is no call to investigate him.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Because he didn’t seek personal benefit. He was working in the nation’s interest and was fully supported by the State Department in his open and transparent actions.


Moron.

NO-it was worse than Trump's transcript, for sure.

No. It wasn’t. He was doing something to benefit America. Out in the open and at the behest of our State Department. Change the channel.

Trump used the power of his office for personal gain. He will be impeached for it. You may as well accept that fact.

No,no benefit for America-only the DEMOCRATS-open your eyes! You are a hater so go in the corner and keep quiet-you have nothing useful to add.

You seem upset by reality.

 

[Crepitus]

Joe Biden publicly, on video, stated that in 2016 he threatened Ukraine with the loss of $1 billion in loan guarantees if Ukraine didn't fire its chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was in charge of the investigation into the Ukrainian company Burisma. After the investigation into Burisma began, Burisma hired the totally unqualified Hunter Biden for the whopping salary of $50K per month. Hunter Biden, by his own admission, had no qualifications for the job. In response to Joe Biden's threat to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees, the Ukrainian government fired Shokin, and the next prosecutor obligingly and quickly exonerated Burisma.

Democrats and some phony conservatives argue that technically Shokin was not investigating Burisma at the time because the investigation was supposedly "dormant." First off, Shokin himself has debunked that claim--he says the investigation was not dormant. But, even if it had been, a "dormant" investigation is still an investigation, not a closed one. As Marc Thiessen has pointed out,

First, the phrase "dormant" means, by definition, that an investigation into Burisma existed and was not closed. Second, we don't know for certain that the Burisma investigation was, in fact, "dormant." Shokin has sworn in an affidavit it was not. (Why is the media bending over backward to absolve the Bidens of wrongdoing? | Marc Thiessen)​

Let's recap: Shokin opens an investigation into Burisma. Burisma hires Hunter Biden. Joe Biden comes to Ukraine and threatens to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees if Shokin is not fired. Poroshenko caves into Biden's threat and fired Shokin. The next prosecutor quickly exonerates Burisma, which employs Hunter Biden. Now, what do you call that? Hey? What is that? Quid Pro Quo, that's what it is.

So why won't Democrats investigate this shady episode? And why are they upset because Trump wants Ukraine to look into this shady series of events? Why did Biden lie about not discussing his son's Burisma dealings with him? Why have so many documents and other evidence emerged that plainly contradict Biden's story?

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

Newly Obtained Documents from Burisma's Legal Team, State Dept and Ukrainian Government Torpedo Joe Biden's Story

Emails Reveal Burisma Consulting Firm Leveraged Hunter Biden To Get State Dept. Meetings

Burisma Consultant Contacted State Department Over Hunter Biden Concerns: Emails

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

Burisma Timeline Just Leads To More Questions About Hunter Biden

Diplomat Testified Obama Admin Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor's Ouster

Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review

Ukrainian MP Reports Biden Received $900K from Burisma for Lobbying Activities

Pics Cast Doubt on Joe Biden's Claim That He Didn't Discuss His Son's Business With Him

NEW: State Department Official Reveals He Approached Joe Biden About Hunter Biden's Dealings In 2015

It's made up.

You've fallen for fake news.

Again.

 

[Third Party]

Because he didn’t seek personal benefit. He was working in the nation’s interest and was fully supported by the State Department in his open and transparent actions.


Moron.

NO-it was worse than Trump's transcript, for sure.

No. It wasn’t. He was doing something to benefit America. Out in the open and at the behest of our State Department. Change the channel.

Trump used the power of his office for personal gain. He will be impeached for it. You may as well accept that fact.

No,no benefit for America-only the DEMOCRATS-open your eyes! You are a hater so go in the corner and keep quiet-you have nothing useful to add.

You seem upset by reality.

No, THAT is the reality-Schiff has encouraged state staffers to go rogue-wonder what THEY get-we know what Schiff and the Democrats get.

 

[busybee01]

Joe Biden publicly, on video, stated that in 2016 he threatened Ukraine with the loss of $1 billion in loan guarantees if Ukraine didn't fire its chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was in charge of the investigation into the Ukrainian company Burisma. After the investigation into Burisma began, Burisma hired the totally unqualified Hunter Biden for the whopping salary of $50K per month. Hunter Biden, by his own admission, had no qualifications for the job. In response to Joe Biden's threat to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees, the Ukrainian government fired Shokin, and the next prosecutor obligingly and quickly exonerated Burisma.

Democrats and some phony conservatives argue that technically Shokin was not investigating Burisma at the time because the investigation was supposedly "dormant." First off, Shokin himself has debunked that claim--he says the investigation was not dormant. But, even if it had been, a "dormant" investigation is still an investigation, not a closed one. As Marc Thiessen has pointed out,

First, the phrase "dormant" means, by definition, that an investigation into Burisma existed and was not closed. Second, we don't know for certain that the Burisma investigation was, in fact, "dormant." Shokin has sworn in an affidavit it was not. (Why is the media bending over backward to absolve the Bidens of wrongdoing? | Marc Thiessen)​

Let's recap: Shokin opens an investigation into Burisma. Burisma hires Hunter Biden. Joe Biden comes to Ukraine and threatens to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees if Shokin is not fired. Poroshenko caves into Biden's threat and fired Shokin. The next prosecutor quickly exonerates Burisma, which employs Hunter Biden. Now, what do you call that? Hey? What is that? Quid Pro Quo, that's what it is.

So why won't Democrats investigate this shady episode? And why are they upset because Trump wants Ukraine to look into this shady series of events? Why did Biden lie about not discussing his son's Burisma dealings with him? Why have so many documents and other evidence emerged that plainly contradict Biden's story?

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

Newly Obtained Documents from Burisma's Legal Team, State Dept and Ukrainian Government Torpedo Joe Biden's Story

Emails Reveal Burisma Consulting Firm Leveraged Hunter Biden To Get State Dept. Meetings

Burisma Consultant Contacted State Department Over Hunter Biden Concerns: Emails

Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

Burisma Timeline Just Leads To More Questions About Hunter Biden

Diplomat Testified Obama Admin Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor's Ouster

Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review

Ukrainian MP Reports Biden Received $900K from Burisma for Lobbying Activities

Pics Cast Doubt on Joe Biden's Claim That He Didn't Discuss His Son's Business With Him

NEW: State Department Official Reveals He Approached Joe Biden About Hunter Biden's Dealings In 2015

Who says he is unqualified. Generally a Board of Directors does not run the company. They can be picked for their name. There is nothing illegal. The fact is that the investigation had been closed. Shokin was a corrupt prosecutor who refused to root out corruption. The international community knew it and the head of the IMF expressed the same doubts about sending money to Trump. Ukrainians knew it as there were large protests against Shokin. This is a tweet from a Ukrainian who has fought corruption in Ukraine.
Thank you @OliverBullough - indeed it’s insane to use UKRAINE as a ball at the AMERICAN national political field. Prosecutor Shokin did not open the case on Zlochevskyi & Burisma. He dumped it. And he was fired for being corrupt and failing prosecution reform @kenvogel

Shokin had closed the case against Burisma BEFORE Biden came to Ukraine. I know you Trump toadies will continue to lie about it as long as Biden leads Trump in the polls.

The fact is there is not a shred of evidence of anything shady. Just because you clowns say there is does not make it so. There has to be some evidence to open a investigation. It does not have to meet a beyond reasonable doubt standard but there has to be evidence. You do not open a investigation just to open a investigation.