Why Washington D.C. Compulsively Lies About Donald Trump

[Care4all]

And then, of course, are his behaviors and temperament.

His followers have been conditioned to (somehow) believe that the only way to fix problems that they see is Trump's way - acting like a petulant, spoiled, ignorant teenager.

That simply isn't true. The way we act and the way we treat others plays a role in how they will respond to us, AND in how they perceive our honesty and competence.

This is just fundamental human nature. Empathy. But the man himself simply doesn't have any empathy, and by predictable extension, neither do his followers.

He's being painted as a victim here. The level of denial and myopia this requires is astonishing.
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When does the Mueller Report drop?

When you decide to read it....?

 

[impuretrash]

You always seem to want to return to the days when conservatives in America just passively went along...

There is a massive difference, a wide canyon, between completely giving in, and acting like a spoiled, petulant child.

There really are other ways to approach this, but somehow Trump and his followers just don't (or won't) see that.

This kind of binary thinking -- either/or, all or nothing -- simply doesn't work well when dealing with intelligent adults in a complicated world.
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The mainstream press and intellectual elite have already decided for us that we have a binary choice between rainbows and puppies socialism or nazi death camps for all non-whites. They've been calling conservatives nazis for my entire life. Thanks to the internet, people less interested in politics than the average humanities graduate finally took notice of this fact. Trump's election was a test and as expected his win goaded them to drop the subtlety and now their true feelings are right out in the open. They hate white people, especially white males, no matter your age or political beliefs. You're all evil and guilty and need to just accept that your time on earth is up.

 

[Mac1958]

You always seem to want to return to the days when conservatives in America just passively went along...

There is a massive difference, a wide canyon, between completely giving in, and acting like a spoiled, petulant child.

There really are other ways to approach this, but somehow Trump and his followers just don't (or won't) see that.

This kind of binary thinking -- either/or, all or nothing -- simply doesn't work well when dealing with intelligent adults in a complicated world.
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The mainstream press and intellectual elite have already decided for us that we have a binary choice between rainbows and puppies socialism or nazi death camps for all non-whites. They've been calling conservatives nazis for my entire life. Thanks to the internet, people less interested in politics than the average humanities graduate finally took notice of this fact. Trump's election was a test and as expected his win goaded them to drop the subtlety and now their true feelings are right out in the open. They hate white people, especially white males, no matter your age or political beliefs. You're all evil and guilty and need to just accept that your time on earth is up.

Well, if that's your perception. When people get face to face and actually communicate, though, the bullshit tends to fade away. It just takes some effort and some listening. Without cameras and microphones in the room.

I do know that this notion that "we" have to "beat" the "other guys" is not only (clearly) destructive, it will only make things worse, and both "sides" might well end up losing.

I also admit, I don't get this us vs. them stuff. I don't see the point.
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[22lcidw]

And then, of course, are his behaviors and temperament.

His followers have been conditioned to (somehow) believe that the only way to fix problems that they see is Trump's way - acting like a petulant, spoiled, ignorant teenager.

That simply isn't true. The way we act and the way we treat others plays a role in how they will respond to us, AND in how they perceive our honesty and competence.

This is just fundamental human nature. Empathy. But the man himself simply doesn't have any empathy, and by extension, neither do his followers.

He's being painted as a victim here. The level of denial and myopia this requires is astonishing.
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"I don't like his personality, that's why it's ok for the media to lie about him constantly."

So you completely missed the part after "AND".

I bolded it, colored it red, and underlined it. So I meant to draw attention to it.

I guess that didn't work.
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So you underlined the word and...so what? You're still making excuses for the national press lying about the president. This thing about him having "no empathy" is a common refrain from the media who are supposed to report facts. How the hell is anyone supposed to know what goes on in the deepest recesses of his emotional makeup?

To begin with, the press already leans left and largely lost its shit when he won. You know this, I know this, Trump knows this.

And yet he persists and attacks them both personally and professionally, somehow thinking that they won't react. Including at rallies, where it's reasonable to see that those media might be concerned for their safety.

Most people, or at least those who have the slightest grasp of human nature, will consider that when they observe their behavior. Instead, Trump and his followers ignore it and pretend he's an innocent victim. I don't know if that's blatant dishonesty or abject ignorance.

He doesn't have to do this, even if you have been convinced that he has.
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The Media Progs have never let up. The false Media Repubs are the frosting on the cake. Lies from those who you oppose and lies from those who stabbed you in the back. Hence Trump was elected and hence the lies and liars came to the forefront.

 

[impuretrash]

You always seem to want to return to the days when conservatives in America just passively went along...

There is a massive difference, a wide canyon, between completely giving in, and acting like a spoiled, petulant child.

There really are other ways to approach this, but somehow Trump and his followers just don't (or won't) see that.

This kind of binary thinking -- either/or, all or nothing -- simply doesn't work well when dealing with intelligent adults in a complicated world.
.

The mainstream press and intellectual elite have already decided for us that we have a binary choice between rainbows and puppies socialism or nazi death camps for all non-whites. They've been calling conservatives nazis for my entire life. Thanks to the internet, people less interested in politics than the average humanities graduate finally took notice of this fact. Trump's election was a test and as expected his win goaded them to drop the subtlety and now their true feelings are right out in the open. They hate white people, especially white males, no matter your age or political beliefs. You're all evil and guilty and need to just accept that your time on earth is up.

Well, if that's your perception. When people get face to face and actually communicate, though, the bullshit tends to fade away. It just takes some effort and some listening. Without cameras and microphones in the room.

I do know that this notion that "we" have to "beat" the "other guys" is not only (clearly) destructive, it will only make things worse, and both "sides" might well end up losing.

I also admit, I don't get this stuff. I don't see the point.
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I'm not concerned with "beating" the other side. The other side's belief system is so completely wacked out crazy that there's no real hope for them. I mean honestly if you think its ok to subject little boys to gender transition therapy and that theres nothing wrong with 3rd trimester abortions you are a literal satanist. Rarely do you find a lefty these days who's willing to budge an inch on issues like this.

No I want to beat the media who brainwashes people who are apparently mentally ill into the fanatical doomsday cult that is the cultural marxist left.

 

[sealybobo]

Because he’s not like the rest of the political hacks inside the Beltway.

I think the world generally, and the world of the powerful in particular, is far less lucid and more incoherent than most assume. The main difference between Trump and his predecessors is that the professional class / deep state / neoliberal order / whatever-you-want-to-call-it is fluent in a language that imposes a kind of regulative fiction on that chaos. Their fluency gives them gives them a patina of legitimacy and not a little power over the less fluent, which comforts some normies but also drives conspiratorial thinking. Trump and a lot of the people around him lack this fluency and have no interest in cultivating it.

In other words, he doesn’t speak their lingo or play their games.

Trump is sui generis in many ways, but voters are probably right to suspect that anyone who threatened the existing order would meet Resistance, as anyone who watched the political press cheer Obama on when he spent months calling Mitt Romney a felon in 2012 can attest to. There will be an election soon, and voters can have their say about Trump directly.

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Conspiracy theories

 

[Mac1958]

The Media Progs have never let up. The false Media Repubs are the frosting on the cake. Lies from those who you oppose and lies from those who stabbed you in the back. Hence Trump was elected and hence the lies and liars came to the forefront.

No I want to beat the media who brainwashes people who are apparently mentally ill into the fanatical doomsday cult that is the cultural marxist left.

Well, the question, then, is how to do it. Trump has chosen his approach, he has his supporters on it, but I don't see how this approach works in the long run.
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[sparky]

Trump chose to pick a fight with the media day one

so i've no sympathy for him when it comes to anything said about him


~S~

 

[impuretrash]

The Media Progs have never let up. The false Media Repubs are the frosting on the cake. Lies from those who you oppose and lies from those who stabbed you in the back. Hence Trump was elected and hence the lies and liars came to the forefront.

No I want to beat the media who brainwashes people who are apparently mentally ill into the fanatical doomsday cult that is the cultural marxist left.

Well, the question, then, is how to do it. Trump has chosen his approach, he has his supporters on it, but I don't see how this approach works in the long run.
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Trump changed the landscape. Now almost everyone knows we're facing an existential threat. That's a start.

Still, bipolar white women with their period blood artwork will join forces with recent muslim immigrants who believe women are less than human in their shared goal to destroy america via the ballot box. Not much anyone can do about that I guess except hope that maybe somehow logic and common sense will prevail.

 

[Muhammed]

And then, of course, are his behaviors and temperament.

His followers have been conditioned to (somehow) believe that the only way to fix problems that they see is Trump's way - acting like a petulant, spoiled, ignorant teenager.

That simply isn't true. The way we act and the way we treat others plays a role in how they will respond to us, AND in how they perceive our honesty and competence.

This is just fundamental human nature. Empathy. But the man himself simply doesn't have any empathy, and by predictable extension, neither do his followers.

He's being painted as a victim here. The level of denial and myopia this requires is astonishing.
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In other words, you're butthurt.

 

[Care4all]

What lies are told about Donald Trump?

Every thing is on video or in Tweet, with Trump, it's kinda hard to lie about him?

The media just spent the last 3 years repeating a particular lie about Trump...

It wasn't a lie, it was a technicality... Read the Mueller report, it showed the evidence..... truly, it did.

 

[impuretrash]

What lies are told about Donald Trump?

Every thing is on video or in Tweet, with Trump, it's kinda hard to lie about him?

The media just spent the last 3 years repeating a particular lie about Trump...

It wasn't a lie, it was a technicality... Read the Mueller report, it showed the evidence..... truly, it did.

if it's so irrefutable then why aren't the democrats basing their impeachment on the evidence of russian collusion...?

 

[Mac1958]

And then, of course, are his behaviors and temperament.

His followers have been conditioned to (somehow) believe that the only way to fix problems that they see is Trump's way - acting like a petulant, spoiled, ignorant teenager.

That simply isn't true. The way we act and the way we treat others plays a role in how they will respond to us, AND in how they perceive our honesty and competence.

This is just fundamental human nature. Empathy. But the man himself simply doesn't have any empathy, and by predictable extension, neither do his followers.

He's being painted as a victim here. The level of denial and myopia this requires is astonishing.
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In other words, you're butthurt.

At your level, that's a perfectly reasonable conclusion.
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[longknife]

From the link:

The chaos of the Trump administration may yet prove intolerable, and there are lots of conservative or sympathetic voters who didn’t vote for Trump, out of concerns that he would be petulant, unstable, and immoral. But if it’s a choice between dealing with Trump’s foibles, which are challenging at best, and pretending the immorality and dishonesty of the system he threatens — a system that will almost certainly outlast him — is somehow a better option, don’t be surprised that so many people are sticking with Trump even through impeachment.

The bolded section sums it up nicely.

And you ignored the part following it:

But if it’s a choice between dealing with Trump’s foibles, which are challenging at best, and pretending the immorality and dishonesty of the system he threatens — a system that will almost certainly outlast him — is somehow a better option, don’t be surprised that so many people are sticking with Trump even through impeachment.

 

[Muhammed]

The Media Progs have never let up. The false Media Repubs are the frosting on the cake. Lies from those who you oppose and lies from those who stabbed you in the back. Hence Trump was elected and hence the lies and liars came to the forefront.

No I want to beat the media who brainwashes people who are apparently mentally ill into the fanatical doomsday cult that is the cultural marxist left.

Well, the question, then, is how to do it. Trump has chosen his approach, he has his supporters on it, but I don't see how this approach works in the long run.
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What is wrong with Trump's mature, skillful, well-informed, pragmatic centrist approach?

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

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[CrusaderFrank]

And then, of course, are his behaviors and temperament.

His followers have been conditioned to (somehow) believe that the only way to fix problems that they see is Trump's way - acting like a petulant, spoiled, ignorant teenager.

That simply isn't true. The way we act and the way we treat others plays a role in how they will respond to us, AND in how they perceive our honesty and competence.

This is just fundamental human nature. Empathy. But the man himself simply doesn't have any empathy, and by predictable extension, neither do his followers.

He's being painted as a victim here. The level of denial and myopia this requires is astonishing.
.

When does the Mueller Report drop?

When you decide to read it....?

Why would I read the Mueller "No Collusion/No Obstruction" report? Is there a new surprise ending?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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So

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Great!

 

[Crepitus]

Because he’s not like the rest of the political hacks inside the Beltway.

I think the world generally, and the world of the powerful in particular, is far less lucid and more incoherent than most assume. The main difference between Trump and his predecessors is that the professional class / deep state / neoliberal order / whatever-you-want-to-call-it is fluent in a language that imposes a kind of regulative fiction on that chaos. Their fluency gives them gives them a patina of legitimacy and not a little power over the less fluent, which comforts some normies but also drives conspiratorial thinking. Trump and a lot of the people around him lack this fluency and have no interest in cultivating it.

In other words, he doesn’t speak their lingo or play their games.

Trump is sui generis in many ways, but voters are probably right to suspect that anyone who threatened the existing order would meet Resistance, as anyone who watched the political press cheer Obama on when he spent months calling Mitt Romney a felon in 2012 can attest to. There will be an election soon, and voters can have their say about Trump directly.

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Lol, I think you've kinda got that backwards.

 

[peach174]

What lies are told about Donald Trump?

Every thing is on video or in Tweet, with Trump, it's kinda hard to lie about him?

The media just spent the last 3 years repeating a particular lie about Trump...

It wasn't a lie, it was a technicality... Read the Mueller report, it showed the evidence..... truly, it did.

Page 2 Muller report, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trumps Campaign
conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in it's election interference activities.
Trump was never a Russian puppet.
The charge itself is absurd when the man loves our country and lived through the cold war.
No babyboomer trusts Russia.