Why was FBI so wrong in Trump-Russia wiretap warrant?

[danielpalos]

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lol. The right wing got their "gospel Truth" from Wikileaks.

 

[task0778]

My guess is, it may not have been illegal to do what they vis-a-vis the FISA Court warrant, or at least find enough evidence that will stand up in court, but it sure as hell stinks to high heaven. And they may be able to get some people for lying and obstruction. The really sucky part is how hard they went after Trump and how easy they didn't go after Clinton. Say what you want about who said or did what, but the undeniable fact in my book is the outrageous double standard applied by the DOJ and FBI and others. And you're supposed to have solid evidence of a crime and then you investigate, rather than investigate looking for solid evidence of a crime that you can pin on Trump or his associates.

 

[Siete]

Nothing will ever come from all this made-up hogwash and all the Trumpbots will blame it on the mythical "deep state", you people are so easy to lead.

Says the drip who bought the RUSSIA! hoax, hook, line, and sinker.

Tell that to the Trump cartel goons in prison.

 

[Oddball]

Nothing will ever come from all this made-up hogwash and all the Trumpbots will blame it on the mythical "deep state", you people are so easy to lead.

Says the drip who bought the RUSSIA! hoax, hook, line, and sinker.

Tell that to the Trump cartel goons in prison.

None of whom had anything to do with RUSSIA!, foo.

 

[iceberg]

Byron York: Why was FBI so wrong in Trump-Russia wiretap warrant?


Byron York: Why was FBI so wrong in Trump-Russia wiretap warrant?
May 13, 2019 ~ By Byron York
A huge controversy erupted last year when President Trump declassified parts of the FBI's secret request to wiretap former Trump campaign volunteer foreign policy adviser Carter Page. Defenders and critics of the president argued over whether the October 2016 warrant application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court relied extensively on the so-called Steele dossier, which was a collection of anti-Trump allegations compiled by the former British spy Christopher Steele on behalf of the Hillary Clinton campaign.... Now, however, we have new evidence, in the form of the Mueller report, to evaluate the Page FISA application. We can ask: Was the information the FBI relied on true? Were the FBI's representations to the court accurate? The answers do not bode well for the bureau.
In the end, Baker might be right. It might have been entirely lawful to submit so much wrong information to the court and as a result be granted a warrant to wiretap a former Trump adviser in pursuit of a crime that had not actually occurred. And, given the extensive redactions, there is still much about the warrant that the public does not know.... that cannot create much confidence in the rest of the bureau's long and wide-ranging investigation of the president's 2016 campaign.


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Byron York has produced an excellent opinion piece that covers the Trump-Russia wiretap warrant. It appears that between the fiction written in the Steele Dossier, the lack of investiaging the DNC so called hacking breach and reliance on the FISA application based upon the Dossier, there's a lot of wrong decisions along the way both in the FBI and further still in the Mueller report where there was dependence upon the incompetent results stemming from the FBI.
AS those within Judicial Watch have repeated stated, "It time to investigate the Investigators."

See also: Mueller report proves that it's time to investigate the investigators

Why ask the Russians, specifically for help with the "missing emails"?

cause trump is a smartass who's always looking for a laugh.

your desire to make it more doesn't in fact, make it more. funny as shit you go off on this comment but when obama flat out says he can work w/putin after re-elected you don't care.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Nothing will ever come from all this made-up hogwash and all the Trumpbots will blame it on the mythical "deep state", you people are so easy to lead.

You'll have a tie game then

 

[The Original Tree]

Carter Page - Wikipedia

"When the Mueller Report was released in April 2019, it described Page's testimony about his role in the 2016 Trump campaign and connections to individuals in Russia as contradictory and confusing, and his contacts with Russians before and during the campaign as tangential and eccentric.[69]

"He was not charged with any crimes, though the report indicated there were unanswered questions about his actions and motives: 'The investigation did not establish that Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election'.

"However, with incomplete 'evidence or testimony about who Page may have met or communicated with in Moscow', 'Page's activities in Russia – as described in his emails with the [Trump campaign] – were not fully explained.'"

Page's FISA warrant was renewed on three separate occasions by three different FISA court judges. Since each renewal required showing the fruits of previous surveillance, maybe Carter should have his day answering questions before Congress?

Revisiting Carter Page - Just Security

Pretty Sure Barr is going to interview Page, and then file criminal charges against Comey, McCabe, and Strozk. Those three will roll over on Clinton and Obama in exchange for not having to face a firing squad for Treason and staging a COUP

 

[the other mike]

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lol. The right wing got their "gospel Truth" from Wikileaks.

As opposed to the criminally ignorant like yourself getting brainwashed by CNN and ABC ?

 

[The Original Tree]

Secret Courts like Secret Indictments are Unconstitutional and it's time to Abolish FISA and the Misnamed "Patriot Act"

 

[Care4all]

Secret Courts like Secret Indictments are Unconstitutional and it's time to Abolish FISA and the Misnamed "Patriot Act"

I'm sure you Russians would love that to happen.

 

[imawhosure]

Secret Courts like Secret Indictments are Unconstitutional and it's time to Abolish FISA and the Misnamed "Patriot Act"

Secret Courts like Secret Indictments are Unconstitutional and it's time to Abolish FISA and the Misnamed "Patriot Act"

I'm sure you Russians would love that to happen.

Just asking, but did you people know that many in, and formerly in the FBI have already flipped? How about the State Department?

Many Leftists aren't aware, that this was the ONLY way that the GOP could get those hand written notes; because the TYPED notes were held from them for over 2 years. A PATRIOT who had access to the hand written ones, PERSONALLY delivered them-)

I will get a lot of funnies from the Left on this, but be aware-----------------> Our version is coming up ROSES, your version of the events, has totally fallen apart!

Look, you believe what you want, I get it; but what is coming is going to make you very, very, very, unhappy. You better start planning 2024, cause unless something new happens that is really bad, you have a far less chance then Hillary did, to be elected dogcatcher in any state, that is even close to 50-50. REAL Democrats have a conscience too, just like REAL Republicans did when they threw Nixon out of office. (I know, I know, most people who post on this board as Democrats are FAR LEFTISTS, but a lot of your party is NOT. They will stay home in DISGUST after seeing what is coming at the very least)

YOU have overplayed your hand, and if YOU would have gotten ahold of this sooner, you might have won. Instead, you just closed your eyes, and laughed! Good luck with that attitude now-)

 

[Oddball]

Secret Courts like Secret Indictments are Unconstitutional and it's time to Abolish FISA and the Misnamed "Patriot Act"

I'm sure you Russians would love that to happen.

The irony of you carrying the water for favorite policies of police state neocons and Chimpola Bush is simply delicious.

 

[K9Buck]

They were working for the Obama/Clinton swamp...they need to be prosecuted...

There's a couple of important steps between unfounded allegations and prosecution. Maybe you are wishing for a more Russian kind of justice system? I know your emperor does.

Why did you support the police-state tactics that were used against Trump and his administration?

 

[K9Buck]

I'm sure you Russians would love that to happen.

It wasn't the Russians that tried to undermine our democracy by orchestrating the greatest political scandal in American history.

 

[georgephillip]

Carter Page - Wikipedia

"When the Mueller Report was released in April 2019, it described Page's testimony about his role in the 2016 Trump campaign and connections to individuals in Russia as contradictory and confusing, and his contacts with Russians before and during the campaign as tangential and eccentric.[69]

"He was not charged with any crimes, though the report indicated there were unanswered questions about his actions and motives: 'The investigation did not establish that Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election'.

"However, with incomplete 'evidence or testimony about who Page may have met or communicated with in Moscow', 'Page's activities in Russia – as described in his emails with the [Trump campaign] – were not fully explained.'"

Page's FISA warrant was renewed on three separate occasions by three different FISA court judges. Since each renewal required showing the fruits of previous surveillance, maybe Carter should have his day answering questions before Congress?

Revisiting Carter Page - Just Security

Pretty Sure Barr is going to interview Page, and then file criminal charges against Comey, McCabe, and Strozk. Those three will roll over on Clinton and Obama in exchange for not having to face a firing squad for Treason and staging a COUP

Pretty Sure Barr is going to interview Page, and then file criminal charges against Comey, McCabe, and Strozk. Those three will roll over on Clinton and Obama in exchange for not having to face a firing squad for Treason and staging a COUP

Trump is the Coup.

Rebecca Solnit: The Coup Has Already Happened

"We already had the coup.

"It happened on November 8, 2016, when an unqualified candidate won a minority victory in a corrupted election thanks in part to foreign intervention. Any time is the right time to pour into the streets and demand that it all grinds to a halt and the country change direction.

"The evidence that the candidate and his goons were aided by and enthusiastically collaborating with a foreign power was pretty clear before that election, and at this point, they are so entangled there isn’t really a reason to regard the born-again alt-right Republican Party and the Putin Regime as separate entities."

Look for McConnell, and Graham to get FLUSHED from DC in November 2020 while Barr and Giulani and Stone go the way of Carlo Gambino and Meyer Lansky.

The Red Don will die in prison while Comey, McCabe, and Strozk live happily ever after.

 

[SavannahMann]

They weren't wrong....They were subverting the laws that they were charged with upholding.

I know, you’re right they were celebrating the lawlessness. But I don’t think they’ll let Trump get away with it any longer. We are on to him now.

Lawlessness. Ok. Work with me here. If the FBI used the Steel report as a basis for the warrant, knowing it was false, that is Perjury. The agents have to swear hat the information is correct for the probable cause. Perjury is a felony. If others did know and did not object or prevent the crime, that is conspiracy and accessory. Abuse of office, and several other crimes are also apparent.

Are you suggesting that the FBI should be allowed to commit crimes at their whim to get rid of a political enemy?

 

[Care4all]

Secret Courts like Secret Indictments are Unconstitutional and it's time to Abolish FISA and the Misnamed "Patriot Act"

Secret Courts like Secret Indictments are Unconstitutional and it's time to Abolish FISA and the Misnamed "Patriot Act"

I'm sure you Russians would love that to happen.

Just asking, but did you people know that many in, and formerly in the FBI have already flipped? How about the State Department?

Many Leftists aren't aware, that this was the ONLY way that the GOP could get those hand written notes; because the TYPED notes were held from them for over 2 years. A PATRIOT who had access to the hand written ones, PERSONALLY delivered them-)

I will get a lot of funnies from the Left on this, but be aware-----------------> Our version is coming up ROSES, your version of the events, has totally fallen apart!

Look, you believe what you want, I get it; but what is coming is going to make you very, very, very, unhappy. You better start planning 2024, cause unless something new happens that is really bad, you have a far less chance then Hillary did, to be elected dogcatcher in any state, that is even close to 50-50. REAL Democrats have a conscience too, just like REAL Republicans did when they threw Nixon out of office. (I know, I know, most people who post on this board as Democrats are FAR LEFTISTS, but a lot of your party is NOT. They will stay home in DISGUST after seeing what is coming at the very least)

YOU have overplayed your hand, and if YOU would have gotten ahold of this sooner, you might have won. Instead, you just closed your eyes, and laughed! Good luck with that attitude now-)

didn't know any of that... I still don't see the big issue??

I already believe President Trump is going to win, so no shocker for me... I was burned in the 2004 reelection of Pres Bush... was certain he could not win his reelection....

I don't make the same mistake twice...

nor do I under-estimate the Power of the Dark Side, in the 2020 race!

 

[Oddball]

Carter Page - Wikipedia

"When the Mueller Report was released in April 2019, it described Page's testimony about his role in the 2016 Trump campaign and connections to individuals in Russia as contradictory and confusing, and his contacts with Russians before and during the campaign as tangential and eccentric.[69]

"He was not charged with any crimes, though the report indicated there were unanswered questions about his actions and motives: 'The investigation did not establish that Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election'.

"However, with incomplete 'evidence or testimony about who Page may have met or communicated with in Moscow', 'Page's activities in Russia – as described in his emails with the [Trump campaign] – were not fully explained.'"

Page's FISA warrant was renewed on three separate occasions by three different FISA court judges. Since each renewal required showing the fruits of previous surveillance, maybe Carter should have his day answering questions before Congress?

Revisiting Carter Page - Just Security

Pretty Sure Barr is going to interview Page, and then file criminal charges against Comey, McCabe, and Strozk. Those three will roll over on Clinton and Obama in exchange for not having to face a firing squad for Treason and staging a COUP

Pretty Sure Barr is going to interview Page, and then file criminal charges against Comey, McCabe, and Strozk. Those three will roll over on Clinton and Obama in exchange for not having to face a firing squad for Treason and staging a COUP

Trump is the Coup.

Rebecca Solnit: The Coup Has Already Happened

"We already had the coup.

"It happened on November 8, 2016, when an unqualified candidate won a minority victory in a corrupted election thanks in part to foreign intervention. Any time is the right time to pour into the streets and demand that it all grinds to a halt and the country change direction.

"The evidence that the candidate and his goons were aided by and enthusiastically collaborating with a foreign power was pretty clear before that election, and at this point, they are so entangled there isn’t really a reason to regard the born-again alt-right Republican Party and the Putin Regime as separate entities."

Look for McConnell, and Graham to get FLUSHED from DC in November 2020 while Barr and Giulani and Stone go the way of Carlo Gambino and Meyer Lansky.

The Red Don will die in prison while Comey, McCabe, and Strozk live happily ever after.

 

[Siete]

Nothing will ever come from all this made-up hogwash and all the Trumpbots will blame it on the mythical "deep state", you people are so easy to lead.

Says the drip who bought the RUSSIA! hoax, hook, line, and sinker.

Tell that to the Trump cartel goons in prison.

None of whom had anything to do with RUSSIA!, foo.

nah - they lied and went to prison to hide their innocence -

 

[georgephillip]

Carter Page - Wikipedia

"When the Mueller Report was released in April 2019, it described Page's testimony about his role in the 2016 Trump campaign and connections to individuals in Russia as contradictory and confusing, and his contacts with Russians before and during the campaign as tangential and eccentric.[69]

"He was not charged with any crimes, though the report indicated there were unanswered questions about his actions and motives: 'The investigation did not establish that Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election'.

"However, with incomplete 'evidence or testimony about who Page may have met or communicated with in Moscow', 'Page's activities in Russia – as described in his emails with the [Trump campaign] – were not fully explained.'"

Page's FISA warrant was renewed on three separate occasions by three different FISA court judges. Since each renewal required showing the fruits of previous surveillance, maybe Carter should have his day answering questions before Congress?

Revisiting Carter Page - Just Security

Pretty Sure Barr is going to interview Page, and then file criminal charges against Comey, McCabe, and Strozk. Those three will roll over on Clinton and Obama in exchange for not having to face a firing squad for Treason and staging a COUP

Pretty Sure Barr is going to interview Page, and then file criminal charges against Comey, McCabe, and Strozk. Those three will roll over on Clinton and Obama in exchange for not having to face a firing squad for Treason and staging a COUP

Trump is the Coup.

Rebecca Solnit: The Coup Has Already Happened

"We already had the coup.

"It happened on November 8, 2016, when an unqualified candidate won a minority victory in a corrupted election thanks in part to foreign intervention. Any time is the right time to pour into the streets and demand that it all grinds to a halt and the country change direction.

"The evidence that the candidate and his goons were aided by and enthusiastically collaborating with a foreign power was pretty clear before that election, and at this point, they are so entangled there isn’t really a reason to regard the born-again alt-right Republican Party and the Putin Regime as separate entities."

Look for McConnell, and Graham to get FLUSHED from DC in November 2020 while Barr and Giulani and Stone go the way of Carlo Gambino and Meyer Lansky.

The Red Don will die in prison while Comey, McCabe, and Strozk live happily ever after.

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Ready for the post script?

Dallas Morning News on Twitter

"Even when Trump is gone, the corruption of a significant percent of the American population, those with whom we don’t merely disagree on principles and goals, but on reality itself, will be a lingering problem.

"They are weaponized minds, and their hate, as hate always is, is easily directed.

"The Republican Party itself now stands for little other than its own grasp on power, and for the domination of this country’s white male Christian-identified minority over the majority of us."

Rebecca Solnit: The Coup Has Already Happened