Why the Second Amendment may be losing relevance in gun debate

[BULLDOG]

And this is the level that the gun control side's argument has devolved into.

Voltaire's prayer has been answered abundantly; thank you Lord for making my enemies ridiculous.

So what are you so afraid of , coward?

 

[NoNukes]

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I suspect most of the gun nut cowards here aren't ranchers, and have never had a real reason to fear being pulled out of their car, yet they still whine about needing to be armed 24/7. Do you live in NYC or Chicago? No. Gun nuts are just cowards. Admit it. What makes gun nuts so afraid to experience every day life without a gun strapped to their pansy ass?

I lived in New York City for 20 years. We used to go to Harlem and the South Bronx to after hours clubs and Salsa clubs late at night. I never felt the need to be armed.

 

[2aguy]

I suspect most of the gun nut cowards here aren't ranchers, and have never had a real reason to fear being pulled out of their car, yet they still whine about needing to be armed 24/7. Do you live in NYC or Chicago? No. Gun nuts are just cowards. Admit it. What makes gun nuts so afraid to experience every day life without a gun strapped to their pansy ass?

Thank you.......you keep revealing who and what you really are...so all of your high minded fake posts about "Background checks," and other silly anti-gun extremist arguments are revealed by your posts here....

You are nothing more than an anti-gun nut....an extremist.......thanks for reminding us....

 

[2aguy]

I suspect most of the gun nut cowards here aren't ranchers, and have never had a real reason to fear being pulled out of their car, yet they still whine about needing to be armed 24/7. Do you live in NYC or Chicago? No. Gun nuts are just cowards. Admit it. What makes gun nuts so afraid to experience every day life without a gun strapped to their pansy ass?

Who is the coward....

The guy who wears a gun just in case he might need it...the woman who carries a gun in case she might need it,.....

Or the guy who loves riding bikes who is afraid to ride in London parks for fear of being beaten and robbed by gangs of thugs with machetes?

On a dry, unseasonably warm evening, still light enough to get home before dark, Harry Speak would usually leap at the chance to do his regular loop around Richmond Park.

But rather than cycling the leafy seven-mile track, the 28-year old solicitor, is inside his Hammersmith flat, using the turbo-trainer.

After the violent mugging of professional cyclist and former stockbroker, Alexandar Richardson, Speak is scared to complete a lap he’s done almost weekly for a decade. He’d been riding his own road bike in the park just 24 hours before Richardson’s ordeal. “It’s left me pretty rattled.”
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The details of the 31-year old’s daylight mugging were shocking to both cyclists and non-cyclists alike. On 7 October, four attackers in balaclavas, riding mopeds, pursued Richardson through RichmondPark, wielding a machete. When they caught up with him, they dragged him 100 metres along the ground and made off with his £10,000 bike. He was left badly bloodied and bruised.
The incident is not a one-off. Since the attack less than two weeks ago, it has emerged that three other cyclists were subjected to violent attacks in the same week in the leafy west London enclave, including one man who thought he was going to be decapitated by the machete-wielding thugs, and another who was injured after being threatened with a machete in the area on the same day

Bike wars: How cyclists became the target of violent moped gangs

As machete-wielding gangs target cyclists in Richmond, Katie Strick reports on the frightening crime wave - and what is being done

www.standard.co.uk

 

[2aguy]

Utter bullshit that is projection and panic porn for leftists who see their grasp on unconstitutional laws slipping away.

The 2nd Amendment was a non-entity, unenforceable on the states until 2010 and then went on a hiatus.

All the laws this twatwaffle is pissing and moaning about, from preemption (or not) to concealed carry (or not) to permitless carry (or not) were states enacting laws (or not) under the authority of their state constitutions in conformance to the RKBA as recognized and protected in their state constitutions (or not) . . . It's no surprise the states with strict gun control are states without RKBA provisions in their state constitutions. Those shitholes never developed a sophisticated legal framework testing contested laws against their state's RKBA . . . They never discerned (or cared) what the right to arms is, their legislaturs took the fact of no RKBA provision as permsssion to do whatever they wanted.

Those shithole states then compounded their error by lazily relying on the collective right lower federal court decisions to sustain their laws when challenged. Well, Heller invalidated those cases and smashed their crutches and these constitutional cripples, NY, NJ, CA, MD are all going to be knocked down and kicked in the head, finally and with as much legal violence as can be mustered.

That crap article is proof leftists have no clue what the 2nd Amendment is and what it does and know even less about how rights are regarded in state constitutions.

Jesus H Christ, just when I thought this can't get any more fun!

I see you've been reading Clayton's work.....he has the same effect on other rational people too...

 

[2aguy]

So what are you so afraid of , coward?

Rape, robbery, beatings, stabbings and murders...especially in areas controlled by the democrat party. You know, where democrat prosecutors and judges either refuse to charge violent criminals, or keep releasing them on bail..............

 

[Blues Man]

So what are you so afraid of , coward?

Only the most moronic people deny that there is real violence in the world.

You should be thankful you've never been the victim of a violent crime rather than denigrating those that have

 

[BULLDOG]

I

I lived in New York City for 20 years. We used to go to Harlem and the South Bronx to after hours clubs and Salsa clubs late at night. I never felt the need to be armed.

Only a coward would.

 

[BULLDOG]

Thank you.......you keep revealing who and what you really are...so all of your high minded fake posts about "Background checks," and other silly anti-gun extremist arguments are revealed by your posts here....

You are nothing more than an anti-gun nut....an extremist.......thanks for reminding us....

No idea what you are mumbling about. You don't think background checks are needed for cowards?

 

[BULLDOG]

Who is the coward....

The guy who wears a gun just in case he might need it...the woman who carries a gun in case she might need it,.....

Or the guy who loves riding bikes who is afraid to ride in London parks for fear of being beaten and robbed by gangs of thugs with machetes?

On a dry, unseasonably warm evening, still light enough to get home before dark, Harry Speak would usually leap at the chance to do his regular loop around Richmond Park.

But rather than cycling the leafy seven-mile track, the 28-year old solicitor, is inside his Hammersmith flat, using the turbo-trainer.

After the violent mugging of professional cyclist and former stockbroker, Alexandar Richardson, Speak is scared to complete a lap he’s done almost weekly for a decade. He’d been riding his own road bike in the park just 24 hours before Richardson’s ordeal. “It’s left me pretty rattled.”
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The details of the 31-year old’s daylight mugging were shocking to both cyclists and non-cyclists alike. On 7 October, four attackers in balaclavas, riding mopeds, pursued Richardson through RichmondPark, wielding a machete. When they caught up with him, they dragged him 100 metres along the ground and made off with his £10,000 bike. He was left badly bloodied and bruised.
The incident is not a one-off. Since the attack less than two weeks ago, it has emerged that three other cyclists were subjected to violent attacks in the same week in the leafy west London enclave, including one man who thought he was going to be decapitated by the machete-wielding thugs, and another who was injured after being threatened with a machete in the area on the same day

Bike wars: How cyclists became the target of violent moped gangs

As machete-wielding gangs target cyclists in Richmond, Katie Strick reports on the frightening crime wave - and what is being done

www.standard.co.uk

Is that why you are so afraid? Do you think you need a gun because you often ride a bicycle in London parks?

 

[BULLDOG]

Rape, robbery, beatings, stabbings and murders...especially in areas controlled by the democrat party. You know, where democrat prosecutors and judges either refuse to charge violent criminals, or keep releasing them on bail..............

That's exactly what I said. You are afraid to face normal everyday life without being prepared to kill someone. There are plenty of gun nuts just like you. The vast majority of guns in the US are owned by a small proportion of the people. The cowards. The rest of us live life without your constant fear. Lots of us gun owners aren't afraid to face everyday life without being armed. We aren't cowards.I guss that's why we aren't gun nuts.

 

[BULLDOG]

Only the most moronic people deny that there is real violence in the world.

You should be thankful you've never been the victim of a violent crime rather than denigrating those that have

Of course there is real violence in the world. Always has been, and always will be. The sane among us know that succumbing to paranoia to the point of being afraid to leave your house without a gun is nuts.
You don't expect me to believe every gun nut has been a victim of violence where a gun would have protected them, and they are in danger of being a victim of violence every time they step off their porch do you?

 

[Blues Man]

Of course there is real violence in the world. Always has been, and always will be. The sane among us know that succumbing to paranoia to the point of being afraid to leave your house without a gun is nuts.
You don't expect me to believe every gun nut has been a victim of violence where a gun would have protected them, and they are in danger of being a victim of violence every time they step off their porch do you?

It's not paranoia when it happens to you.

I hope you never get jumped by 3 pieces of shit. I hope you never get jumped from behind, taken to the ground and beat in the face by a guy with a bike chain wrapped aropund his fist while his 2 accomplices kick you in the ribs and stomp on your abdomen. I hope you're never left bleeding on the ground in the middle of winter after you are robbed and your shoes and coat are taken. I hope you never have to walk 8 blocks to a hospital and watch people stare at you or to see 2 cops drive by and ignore you as you stumble along covered in your own blood.

I hope you never end up in the hospital for 10 days with 3 broken ribs a ruptured spleen, a fractured eye orbital and a grade 4 concussion. I hope you're never left with permanent vision impairment in one eye and scars on your face.

This happened to me and it will never happen again so yes after that happened I used to carry a gun all the time when I lived in that shithole city because I wasn't going to be a helpless victim ever again.

Like I said count yourself fortunate and save the internet bravado and insults until you walk a mile in another person's shoes.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The judicial Second Amendment camp and the political Second Amendment camp will always be at odds, never finding consensus or agreement – with the former following Second Amendment jurisprudence as determined by the Supreme Court and the latter having nothing but contempt for the Court and its decisions concerning the Second Amendment.

The inability to be honest with language is the signature characteristic of the formers anti-constitutional argument, i,e, e.g. "the former following 2nd amendment jurisprudence" should read 'ignoring the actual language in the constitution and substituting it with their own translation' and then referring back to it as proof, and it does fool everyone with a social education.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Yep. Gun nuts are cowards. Only a coward is afraid to face everyday life without carrying a weapon designed to kill. What are you so afraid of. Was someone mean to you when you were little?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yep. Gun nuts are cowards. Only a coward is afraid to face everyday life without carrying a weapon designed to kill. What are you so afraid of. Was someone mean to you when you were little?

Does it hurt to be the stupid, bulldyke?

I mean, physical pain?

 

[Uncensored2008]

"The Bill of Rights, by its terms, only applies to the federal government, but the Supreme Court, through a doctrine known as incorporation, has made almost all of its guarantees applicable against state and local governments as well. That's what the question was in McDonald," Blocher said. "But some states have chosen to go above and beyond what the court laid out." ibid

Another point of conflict between the two camps.

The judicial camp recognizes incorporation doctrine and the application of the Second Amendment to the states and local jurisdictions.

The political camp rejects incorporation doctrine but is inconsistent with its advocacy of “states’ rights” – advocating that the Supreme Court invalidate state measures such as assault weapon bans and universal background checks.

You should take a grade school introduction to law, Saul Goodman.

equal protection

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Uncensored2008]

What's going to allow gun control is that few of young men hunt or shoot these days. They're all playing video games.

58% of NRA membership is over retirement age. Give it another 20-30 years and gun rights won't disappear with a bang, they'll disappear with a whimper.

Lie to yourself some more, Nazi....

US gun sales spiked during pandemic and continue to rise

First-time buyers make up more than one-fifth of Americans who purchased guns amid huge number of firearms already circulating

www.theguardian.com

Boom: 5M new gun owners, with 58% black and 40% women - Washington Examiner

Gun sales have exploded this year with the help of millions of first-time shooters, according to the industry’s trade group.There are 5 million new gun owners, and many are minorities, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation.The group said that its surveys of gun stores found that...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Of course there is real violence in the world. Always has been, and always will be.

Sing Kumbaya or knit a quilt, it will go away

The sane among us know that succumbing to paranoia to the point of being afraid to leave your house without a gun is nuts.

See that doesn't actually happen because of guns, but that is a spot on description of what has actually happened with covid

You don't expect me to believe every gun nut has been a victim of violence where a gun would have protected them, and they are in danger of being a victim of violence every time they step off their porch do you?

Does "gun nut" sound better than "constitutional right"?

the lefts fundamental misunderstanding of the constitution [and most everything else] is what leads to non-sense like that type of thinking...

That could be a complete contemptable lie [or journalistic license if you prefer] from beginning to end and top to bottom but it doesn't have to be true to make it a valid point in discussion, the fact that you need some kind of justification for others to employ their constitutional rights is the real problem here.

 

[mudwhistle]

I suspect most of the gun nut cowards here aren't ranchers, and have never had a real reason to fear being pulled out of their car, yet they still whine about needing to be armed 24/7. Do you live in NYC or Chicago? No. Gun nuts are just cowards. Admit it. What makes gun nuts so afraid to experience every day life without a gun strapped to their pansy ass?

99% of us never wear a gun. Only a small percentage of them....not even one percent...feels the need to carry a gun....unless it's something to do with their jobs.

I know you don't care about people who live in NYC, Chicago, or live on the border......so basically I think you need to STFU and mind your own God Damned Business.