Why the Second Amendment may be losing relevance in gun debate

[M14 Shooter]

Another example of paranoia. Do these people truely believe they are safe?
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Rookie numbers.

 

[Flash]

Another example of paranoia. Do these people truely believe they are safe?
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What business is it of yours?

They have a fine collection of firearms and it is their business.

 

[Flash]

How many guns can I own without being labeled as paranoid by the anti gun loons? Inquiring minds want to know!!!!

Right now I have 48 firearms.

Sooooo, if you have 49 or more that makes you a gun nut.

 

[maybelooking]

Right now I have 48 firearms.

Sooooo, if you have 49 or more that makes you a gun nut.

an anti gun loon might even say you have an (oh the horror) "arsenal"

 

[Flash]

an anti gun loon might even say you have an (oh the horror) "arsenal"

Then they would be confused because I have just the proper and reasonable number of firearms to be "well regulated".

 

[BULLDOG]

Nope....I am saying that straw buyers are people knowingly selling to criminals......you are lying and saying that the individual selling his shotgun or pistol because they don't want it anymore, is the same thing as a straw buyer.....that is a lie. These individual sellers are not supplying the guns these criminals use, and you know it......but you want gun registration...in order to get it, you need to get universal background checks.........so you lie....

If a crook wants to buy a gun, he can go to any individual seller and get one. No background check, no worries. The seller isn't even required to know the recipient's name. Your obsession with registration is bullshit. Dealers do background checks and there is no federal registration. Some states do, but states can do what they want.

 

[BULLDOG]

Right now I have 48 firearms.

Sooooo, if you have 49 or more that makes you a gun nut.

Doesn't matter how many guns you have. If you don't think reasonable regulation is a good thing, you're a gun nut.

 

[BULLDOG]

Nope....I am saying that straw buyers are people knowingly selling to criminals......you are lying and saying that the individual selling his shotgun or pistol because they don't want it anymore, is the same thing as a straw buyer.....that is a lie. These individual sellers are not supplying the guns these criminals use, and you know it......but you want gun registration...in order to get it, you need to get universal background checks.........so you lie....

Exactly why wouldn't a crook from buying from an individual seller? What is stopping him?

 

[Flash]

Doesn't matter how many guns you have. If you don't think reasonable regulation is a good thing, you're a gun nut.

I think "reasonable" regulation is appropriate. The problem is that you stupid hate filled shithead Moon Bats that don't know jackshit about the Bill of Rights are never reasonable. You are fucking morons that don't have a clue what reasonable means.

The reason why you shitheads never are reasonable is because you sorry anti American fuckers have the agenda to take away or neuter the right to keep and bear arms because you think that is a threat to making this country a Socialist shithole.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I think "reasonable" regulation is appropriate. The problem is that you stupid hate filled shithead Moon Bats that don't know jackshit about the Bill of Rights are never reasonable. You are fucking morons that don't have a clue what reasonable means.

"Reasonable" restrictions are both demonstrably necessary and effective.
This excludes the huge, huge, majority of the rstrictions supported by the anti-gun loons.

 

[Flash]

"Reasonable" restrictions are both demonstrably necessary and effective.
This excludes the huge, huge, majority of the rstrictions supported by the anti-gun loons.

It is kinda like abortion.

It is reasonable to allow abortions for legitimate medical reasons like when the life of the mother is in jeopardy. Some people would argue that it is reasonable to allow abortion for rape and incest.

However, the unreasonable Moon Bats don't want to be reasonable. They will tell you with a straight face that it is reasonable to allow abortion on demand for the sake of convenience.

The Moon Bat don't understand what "shall not be infringed" means and they sure as hell have no concept of reasonableness when it comes to the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

They just want to take firearms away from White people that don't vote Socialist.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They just want to take firearms away from White people that don't vote Socialist.

This is indeed the case.

 

[2aguy]

If a crook wants to buy a gun, he can go to any individual seller and get one. No background check, no worries. The seller isn't even required to know the recipient's name. Your obsession with registration is bullshit. Dealers do background checks and there is no federal registration. Some states do, but states can do what they want.

The only way to know if a backgriund check was done in a private sale is with gun registration…..gun stores have the gun and the transfer is a known quantity……

You know this and play a game about gun registration

 

[2aguy]

Exactly why wouldn't a crook from buying from an individual seller? What is stopping him?

Because, as the criminals tell you they dont know if they are cops….that is why they use relatives and other people they know…..

The only reason for universalbackground checks is to get gun registration.

Your fake argument aboutJohn Q citizen selling his glock so he can get the latest model is just crap…you want gun registration.

 

[Flash]

If a crook wants to buy a gun, he can go to any individual seller and get one. No background check, no worries. The seller isn't even required to know the recipient's name. Your obsession with registration is bullshit. Dealers do background checks and there is no federal registration. Some states do, but states can do what they want.

You are confused Moon Bat.

First of all, the Constitution of the US says very clearly that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

If we have to get government permission (passing a background check to the satisfaction of the government) then we really don't have the Conditional right to keep and bear arms, do we? That means the Bill of Rights are not really rights.

Second of all, it doesn't matter a nat's ass how many background checks we have if a crook wants to get a firearm to do an illegal act he will get one.

Third of all, background checks are absolutely worthless. Just look at the number of mass shootings we have had in the last few years where the shooter had a background check on the weapon he used. Past behavior is not a very good indicator of future behavior.

All background checks do is infringe upon the citizen's right to keep and bear arms by making it at the discretion of the government instead of a Constitutional right.

 

[BULLDOG]

I think "reasonable" regulation is appropriate. The problem is that you stupid hate filled shithead Moon Bats that don't know jackshit about the Bill of Rights are never reasonable. You are fucking morons that don't have a clue what reasonable means.

The reason why you shitheads never are reasonable is because you sorry anti American fuckers have the agenda to take away or neuter the right to keep and bear arms because you think that is a threat to making this country a Socialist shithole.

You truly believe that line of bullshit too, don't you?

 

[BULLDOG]

The only way to know if a backgriund check was done in a private sale is with gun registration…..gun stores have the gun and the transfer is a known quantity……

You know this and play a game about gun registration

Bullshit.

 

[BULLDOG]

You are confused Moon Bat.

First of all, the Constitution of the US says very clearly that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

If we have to get government permission (passing a background check to the satisfaction of the government) then we really don't have the Conditional right to keep and bear arms, do we? That means the Bill of Rights are not really rights.

Second of all, it doesn't matter a nat's ass how many background checks we have if a crook wants to get a firearm to do an illegal act he will get one.

Third of all, background checks are absolutely worthless. Just look at the number of mass shootings we have had in the last few years where the shooter had a background check on the weapon he used. Past behavior is not a very good indicator of future behavior.

All background checks do is infringe upon the citizen's right to keep and bear arms by making it at the discretion of the government instead of a Constitutional right.

Yet we have background checks for dealers without any problems. Do those checks mean we don't have a bill of rights any more?

 

[Flash]

You truly believe that line of bullshit too, don't you?

Absolutely. You Moon Bats prove it every time you spout your anti right to keep and bear arms bullshit.

It is not about gun safety because the thugs that use guns for crime aren't going to be deterred by some stupid law.

It is about a political agenda to curtail the potential for opposition to you Libtard's agenda to turn this country into a Socialist Shithole.

 

[BULLDOG]

Absolutely. You Moon Bats prove it every time you spout your anti right to keep and bear arms bullshit.

It is not about gun safety because the thugs that use guns for crime aren't going to be deterred by some stupid law.

It is about a political agenda to curtail the potential for opposition to you Libtard's agenda to turn this country into a Socialist Shithole.

Please quote anything I have said about limiting anybody's right to keep and bear arms, with the exception, of course, of those who can't pass a background check.