Why Putin Wants Ukraine

Weatherman2020

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Thereโ€™s no downside to controlling the region.

WHY UKRAINE MATTERS For those who ask
How the nation of Ukraine ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ranks:
๐Ÿ“Œ1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
๐Ÿ“Œ2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
๐Ÿ“Œ2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
๐Ÿ“Œ2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
๐Ÿ“Œ2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
๐Ÿ“Œ3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
๐Ÿ“Œ4th in the world by the total value of natural resources
๐Ÿ“Œ7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukraine is an agricultural country:

๐Ÿฅ‡1st in Europe in terms of arable land area
๐Ÿฅ‰3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
๐Ÿฅ‡1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
๐Ÿฅˆ2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
๐Ÿฅ‰3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
๐Ÿ…4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
- 5th largest rye producer in the world;
- 5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
- 8th place in the world in wheat exports;
- 9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
- 16th place in the world in cheese exports.

โ—๏ธUkraine ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukraine is an industrialized country:

๐Ÿ’ฅ 1st in Europe in ammonia production;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 2-ะต Europe's and 4th largest natural gas pipeline system in the world (142.5 bln cubic meters of gas throughput capacity in the EU);
๐Ÿ’ฅ 3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
๐Ÿ’ฅ 3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 3rd largest iron exporter in the world
๐Ÿ’ฅ 4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 4th place in the world in clay exports
๐Ÿ’ฅ 4th place in the world in titanium exports
๐Ÿ’ฅ 8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

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Right now I am not sure if he wants the whole of Ukraine or just wants to occupy Kiev and trade it for the two rebel regions being absorbed into Russia instead of the current fake situation of them being "recognized" by Russia as independent territories.
 
Right now I am not sure if he wants the whole of Ukraine or just wants to occupy Kiev and trade it for the two rebel regions being absorbed into Russia instead of the current fake situation of them being "recognized" by Russia as independent territories.
Heโ€™ll take the natural resources and farmland.
 
Heโ€™ll take the natural resources and farmland.

But he might not be able to keep it as I think a total takeover would result in more pressure from others.

Trading the two Russianized areas AND the Crimea would get him what he wanted originally, and maybe the west would accept it.
 
Thereโ€™s no downside to controlling the region.

WHY UKRAINE MATTERS For those who ask
How the nation of Ukraine ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ranks:
๐Ÿ“Œ1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
๐Ÿ“Œ2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
๐Ÿ“Œ2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
๐Ÿ“Œ2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
๐Ÿ“Œ2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
๐Ÿ“Œ3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
๐Ÿ“Œ4th in the world by the total value of natural resources
๐Ÿ“Œ7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukraine is an agricultural country:

๐Ÿฅ‡1st in Europe in terms of arable land area
๐Ÿฅ‰3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
๐Ÿฅ‡1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
๐Ÿฅˆ2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
๐Ÿฅ‰3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
๐Ÿ…4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
- 5th largest rye producer in the world;
- 5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
- 8th place in the world in wheat exports;
- 9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
- 16th place in the world in cheese exports.

โ—๏ธUkraine ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ukraine is an industrialized country:

๐Ÿ’ฅ 1st in Europe in ammonia production;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 2-ะต Europe's and 4th largest natural gas pipeline system in the world (142.5 bln cubic meters of gas throughput capacity in the EU);
๐Ÿ’ฅ 3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
๐Ÿ’ฅ 3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 3rd largest iron exporter in the world
๐Ÿ’ฅ 4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 4th place in the world in clay exports
๐Ÿ’ฅ 4th place in the world in titanium exports
๐Ÿ’ฅ 8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
๐Ÿ’ฅ 10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

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Didn't see neon in your list.
 
This is how propaganda works: Russian FM Lavrov states "The Russian operation is being carried out to free Ukrainians from oppression so they can determine their own future."

Lavrov does have a point there. More dead Russians means a freer Ukraine.
 
All those items the OP mentions won't be worth a shit, if the invasion and subsequent civil war reduce the Ukraine to rubble.

Is this Ukraine's future?

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Let's hope not.
 
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Right now I am not sure if he wants the whole of Ukraine or just wants to occupy Kiev and trade it for the two rebel regions being absorbed into Russia instead of the current fake situation of them being "recognized" by Russia as independent territories.
Putin intends to annex other countries and said there will be consequences to anyone who tries to stop him.
 
When it comes to threats, yes. Putin wants to make Russia great again....and he's the richest man in the world. Russia however is very poor.

Then you are an idiot. You can't take anything he says at face value.
 
WHY UKRAINE MATTERS For those who ask
Thank you, poster Weatherman.
That was informative.
I knew a little bit of that....mainly the agricultural part.
But your listing gave me a much better comprehension about Ukraine.
I appreciate your efforts to inform all on this forum.

I watched some reportage last night about the history of Ukraine.
And Wow!......those folks sure have paid some dues in terms of dead bodies.
First, the famine years --called 'The Holdomor'.... when Stalin came in and appropriated the harvests to take back to Russia and feed his citizens....3.9 million Ukranians died of starvation.

(Ukraine was long known as the 'bread basket of Europe' and Stalin coveted that resource.)

And then the Nazis followed with their atrocities: Total civilian losses during German occupation in Ukraine are estimated at four million, including up to a million Jews who were murdered by Einsatzgruppen units,

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He can say all he wants, you assume he's telling the truth?
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Poster Marty brings up a fact that most all should now acknowldege.
Vladimir Putin must not be trusted.

Remember when the military build-up along the border was first noted and publicized by NATO?
Then Putin said it was merely 'military exercises'.
And then in Belarus when satellites noted live fire exercises by Russian troops....Putin said it was merely "War games".
And then just about 3 weeks ago Putin said they were beginning to withdraw troops to their bases.

And then NATO and the U.S. began to reveal what their intelligence services discovered about various 'false flag' and subterfuge schemes planned by the Russians.
Putin said it was all untrue. 'Western propaganda'.

Vladimir Putin is Adolf Hitler-lite.
So far.
 
But he might not be able to keep it as I think a total takeover would result in more pressure from others.

Trading the two Russianized areas AND the Crimea would get him what he wanted originally, and maybe the west would accept it.
What pressure? Russia, aka USSR did fine without the West for 50 years. Putin could care less his people canโ€™t buy Levi pants.
 
What pressure? Russia, aka USSR did fine without the West for 50 years. Putin could care less his people canโ€™t buy Levi pants.

But will his people?

Granted revolution in a oppressive state isn't easy, but the Russians have done it before multiple times.
 

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