Why murder rose 29% last year....no, it isn't guns. The democrat war on police is a major problem.

[Oldestyle]

Well, Obama set up the Taskforce for 211st Century Policing to restore respect and confidence in law enforcement.

LOL...the liberal answer to all things...set up a "taskforce" to study the problem! (eye roll)

 

[Fang]

This article looks at the massive increase in murder......it shows in the charts how the rise in murder correlates to the blm and democrat party attacks on police following the George Floyd case......the democrats have decided they want to put control of police in Federal hands......so they did everything they could to undermine the police....using their terrorist wings, the blm and antifa thugs of the democrat party...

It’s something but I still think the Times is downplaying the obvious a bit. Here’s the chart of the monthly murder rate. What you’ll see is that the first month where the murder rate started to spike above the average in previous years was May. Why in May? Because George Floyd was killed on May 25th and by the next day the video was going viral. The final weekend of May became a weekend of violent protests which pushed the monthly numbers out of orbit. And from there the murder rate continued to go up as sometimes violent anti-police protests were taking place around the country:

Why would the death of George Floyd be connected with a wave of violence? I think the answer to that has to do with the nature of the protests, which were explicitly hostile to police. Police pulled back as protesters created autonomous zones in some cities.

It was basically the Ferguson Effect all on a national scale.

As police pulled back, criminals had less fear of consequences and also, some people felt more inclined to seek street justice rather than call the police when a disagreement arose. That’s the “increased distrust” mentioned above. The protests last year didn’t have to actually defund police departments in order to have a significant impact on the behavior of both cops and criminals.
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I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Portland had some of the most consistent and most violent protests last year and also lost a lot of officers to retirement and resignations. Portland was a worst case scenario for the connection between anti-police protests and increased violence and the numbers seem to reflect that.

FBI: Murder rose by 29% last year with the biggest spike coming after the death of George Floyd (Update)

hotair.com

Thank you. This is elephant in the room no one wants to talk about. It's why I don't support BLM or the kneeling. Its causing more blacks to get killed. I can guarantee you whites in nice neighborhoods still have their police patrolling (as they should).

 

[2aguy]

Thank you. This is elephant in the room no one wants to talk about. It's why I don't support BLM or the kneeling. Its causing more blacks to get killed. I can guarantee you whites in nice neighborhoods still have their police patrolling (as they should).

And the rich democrats have their private security

 

[M14 Shooter]

You should tell your story about handguns, but still. ........................

Nothng here chamges the fact you presented the impossibly ignorant claim that ARs kill fewer than 100 people per year because of their weak ammo.

 

[JoeB131]

Libs are clueless

Leftwing cities where the murder rate is highest are defunding the police and reducing the police force

Those that remain have a target on their back with understandable low morale

And the bad guys are filling the void

Murder rates are higher in the cities because that's where people live. That's why they are called "Cities".

The murder rate in cities like Chicago are NOT rising because people are locked in their homes with Covid! That's a total crock. It's gang bangers shooting other gang bangers or innocent bystanders that are driving this spike in crime and THAT is happening because there are fewer Police on the streets because liberals have defunded the Police and made it impossible for those who remain to do their jobs! You've gotten rid of Stop and Frisk. You've gotten rid of the Police squads that targeted gangs and guns. You OWN the result!

Except no one defunded the police... the police are getting just as much money as ever. Law enforcement is one of the few professions that didn't take a huge hit during TRUMP RECESSION(TM).

Most people who get murdered are murdered by people they know. Lock people in their houses long enough, getting on each other's nerves, having a domestic argument while you are on a work call, um, yeah, a few people are going to lose it after a few months of that, and damn, that gun was RIGHT THERE!!!

 

[JoeB131]

And the BLM riots only got worse

Naw, the BLM riots got worse because cops kept killing innocent black people with Trump cheering them on.

Now, that said, there was already a high level of anxiety because of Covid (AKA TRUMP PLAGUE) and high unemployment, and the images of George Floyd being murdered in the middle of the street were pretty fucking graphic.

But only about 35 deaths have been linked to BLM riots, most of those being demonstrators being killed by cops.

 

[Coyote]

This article looks at the massive increase in murder......it shows in the charts how the rise in murder correlates to the blm and democrat party attacks on police following the George Floyd case......the democrats have decided they want to put control of police in Federal hands......so they did everything they could to undermine the police....using their terrorist wings, the blm and antifa thugs of the democrat party...

It’s something but I still think the Times is downplaying the obvious a bit. Here’s the chart of the monthly murder rate. What you’ll see is that the first month where the murder rate started to spike above the average in previous years was May. Why in May? Because George Floyd was killed on May 25th and by the next day the video was going viral. The final weekend of May became a weekend of violent protests which pushed the monthly numbers out of orbit. And from there the murder rate continued to go up as sometimes violent anti-police protests were taking place around the country:

Why would the death of George Floyd be connected with a wave of violence? I think the answer to that has to do with the nature of the protests, which were explicitly hostile to police. Police pulled back as protesters created autonomous zones in some cities.

It was basically the Ferguson Effect all on a national scale.

As police pulled back, criminals had less fear of consequences and also, some people felt more inclined to seek street justice rather than call the police when a disagreement arose. That’s the “increased distrust” mentioned above. The protests last year didn’t have to actually defund police departments in order to have a significant impact on the behavior of both cops and criminals.
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I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Portland had some of the most consistent and most violent protests last year and also lost a lot of officers to retirement and resignations. Portland was a worst case scenario for the connection between anti-police protests and increased violence and the numbers seem to reflect that.

FBI: Murder rose by 29% last year with the biggest spike coming after the death of George Floyd (Update)

hotair.com

I can always count on gun nuts to guns out of every negative equation.

From what I read, 3 things are considered factors: the pandemic, the social unrest over the summer and increased number of carrying guns due to loosening laws.

 

[2aguy]

Murder rates are higher in the cities because that's where people live. That's why they are called "Cities".



Except no one defunded the police... the police are getting just as much money as ever. Law enforcement is one of the few professions that didn't take a huge hit during TRUMP RECESSION(TM).

Most people who get murdered are murdered by people they know. Lock people in their houses long enough, getting on each other's nerves, having a domestic argument while you are on a work call, um, yeah, a few people are going to lose it after a few months of that, and damn, that gun was RIGHT THERE!!!

moron you dont have to defund the cops to get them to stop proactively policing but nice attempt at lying about what is happening. Attacking the police since 2015 caused this…..democrats releasing violent gun offenders over and over caused this

 

[2aguy]

I can always count on gun nuts to guns out of every negative equation.

From what I read, 3 things are considered factors: the pandemic, the social unrest over the summer and increased number of carrying guns due to loosening laws.

Wrong, crime went down in other countries.
1). Democrats making war on the police

2). Democrat party judges and prosecutirs letting violent gun criminals out of prison and jail over and over again no matter how many gun crimes they commit

 

[2aguy]

I can always count on gun nuts to guns out of every negative equation.

From what I read, 3 things are considered factors: the pandemic, the social unrest over the summer and increased number of carrying guns due to loosening laws.

Over 27 years gun ownership and gun carrying went up and gun crime went down 75%. Gun murder went down 49%……your theiry doesnt hold up to even basic scrutiny and actual experience over 27 years.

 

[2aguy]

Naw, the BLM riots got worse because cops kept killing innocent black people with Trump cheering them on.

Now, that said, there was already a high level of anxiety because of Covid (AKA TRUMP PLAGUE) and high unemployment, and the images of George Floyd being murdered in the middle of the street were pretty fucking graphic.

But only about 35 deaths have been linked to BLM riots, most of those being demonstrators being killed by cops.

lying asshole no demonstrators were killed by cops…. Innocent people were murdered by blm and antifa

 

[Oldestyle]

Naw, the BLM riots got worse because cops kept killing innocent black people with Trump cheering them on.

Now, that said, there was already a high level of anxiety because of Covid (AKA TRUMP PLAGUE) and high unemployment, and the images of George Floyd being murdered in the middle of the street were pretty fucking graphic.

But only about 35 deaths have been linked to BLM riots, most of those being demonstrators being killed by cops.

Dude what are you even babbling about? Police were killing innocent people? When? Trump cheered that on? When? George Floyd died of a drug overdose while he was being arrested for passing counterfeit money. That never was "murder"! Assholes like you burned and looted American cities for months on end because of that false narrative!

 

[Oldestyle]

Murder rates are higher in the cities because that's where people live. That's why they are called "Cities".



Except no one defunded the police... the police are getting just as much money as ever. Law enforcement is one of the few professions that didn't take a huge hit during TRUMP RECESSION(TM).

Most people who get murdered are murdered by people they know. Lock people in their houses long enough, getting on each other's nerves, having a domestic argument while you are on a work call, um, yeah, a few people are going to lose it after a few months of that, and damn, that gun was RIGHT THERE!!!

No one defunded the Police? Liberal politicians defunded the New York Police Department by one Billion dollars, you blow hard! They reassigned the police who targeted gangs and guns. They passed legislation that put violent criminals back on the streets without paying bail. But you blame the spike in violence on domestic arguments? You're the biggest idiot on this board!

 

[Mac-7]

Murder rates are higher in the cities because that's where people live. That's why they are called "Cities".

Yes, blue cesspools teeming with the criminal element

Exactly where you do not want to reduce police budgets as the democrats have done

 

[Mac-7]

Naw, the BLM riots got worse because cops kept killing innocent black people with Trump cheering them on.

Very few were innocent

However most of the dearly departed criminals did suffer from the black brain disease which causes them to resist arrest

 

[M14 Shooter]

From what I read, 3 things are considered factors: the pandemic, the social unrest over the summer and increased number of carrying guns due to loosening laws.

Pleae cite your source and copy/paste the text to that effect.
See, anti-gun loons -always- claim the loosening of gun laws will bring an increase gun-related violence -- and they never do,.

 

[Coyote]

Pleae cite your source and copy/paste the text to that effect.
See, anti-gun loons -always- claim the loosening of gun laws will bring an increase gun-related violence -- and they never do,.

Gun nutters never want to consider the possibility that lax gun laws might play a role in increased violence.


But Rosenfeld said several things could have contributed here - economic hardship caused by COVID-19, police pulling back because of the pandemic, trust in the police cratering in many communities because of Floyd's killing, and also research shows that more people were carrying firearms in public. And the FBI data show a gun of some sort was used in around 77% of these murders, which is the highest number on record. So all of these things could factor in, but, again, their exact connection is still unclear.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

was it democrats attacking capitol police? i think not

Dumbest post of the year. Congrats!

 

[Oldestyle]

Gun nutters never want to consider the possibility that lax gun laws might play a role in increased violence.


But Rosenfeld said several things could have contributed here - economic hardship caused by COVID-19, police pulling back because of the pandemic, trust in the police cratering in many communities because of Floyd's killing, and also research shows that more people were carrying firearms in public. And the FBI data show a gun of some sort was used in around 77% of these murders, which is the highest number on record. So all of these things could factor in, but, again, their exact connection is still unclear.

Hate to break this to you, Sparky but Chicago has probably the strictest gun laws in the nation and people are getting shot there right and left.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

No, it's the truth. The only false narrative is yours and if police are quitting because we who pay their salaries are demanding accountability and better behavior then their asses needed to be replaced anyway. The police are not above the law.

Fentanyl Floyd was not murdered. Just another drug addicted criminal the demleftists put on a pedestal for votes.