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Why murder rose 29% last year....no, it isn't guns. The democrat war on police is a major problem.

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No need to try again, you've just confirmed the idea that the AR's shoot mostly weak bullets.
Your statement, above, is a lie.
Why do you need to lie to make a point?
 

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Yeah, compared to most hunting rifles.
Convenient how you left out the rest of the story.
You know - the part were 5.56 is -considerably- more powerful than handgun rounds, which kill 600-700x more people -- thus negating your impossibly ignorant claim that ARs kill fewer than 100 people per year because of their weak ammo.
Why did you leave that part out?
 

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Finally coming to admit that there's a massive increase.

Actually due to Covid in part and also due to the massive amount of political hating of the other side that is driving gun owners to resort to using their guns to settle thier scores.

Their scores being widely varied.

And of course their efficiency at killing is dramatically enhanced by their choice of AR type weapons!
Murder is due to COVID?
You are mentally ill.
 

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This article looks at the massive increase in murder......it shows in the charts how the rise in murder correlates to the blm and democrat party attacks on police following the George Floyd case......the democrats have decided they want to put control of police in Federal hands......so they did everything they could to undermine the police....using their terrorist wings, the blm and antifa thugs of the democrat party...

It’s something but I still think the Times is downplaying the obvious a bit. Here’s the chart of the monthly murder rate. What you’ll see is that the first month where the murder rate started to spike above the average in previous years was May. Why in May? Because George Floyd was killed on May 25th and by the next day the video was going viral. The final weekend of May became a weekend of violent protests which pushed the monthly numbers out of orbit. And from there the murder rate continued to go up as sometimes violent anti-police protests were taking place around the country:

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Why would the death of George Floyd be connected with a wave of violence? I think the answer to that has to do with the nature of the protests, which were explicitly hostile to police. Police pulled back as protesters created autonomous zones in some cities.


It was basically the Ferguson Effect all on a national scale.

As police pulled back, criminals had less fear of consequences and also, some people felt more inclined to seek street justice rather than call the police when a disagreement arose. That’s the “increased distrust” mentioned above. The protests last year didn’t have to actually defund police departments in order to have a significant impact on the behavior of both cops and criminals.
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I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Portland had some of the most consistent and most violent protests last year and also lost a lot of officers to retirement and resignations. Portland was a worst case scenario for the connection between anti-police protests and increased violence and the numbers seem to reflect that.



I saw a report on CBS News today on the 29% number

A couple of clueless Karens were perplexed and grasping for an explanation for the rising murder rate WITHOUT mentioning the lib media and Black Lies Matter war on the police

It was not pretty
 
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God, you're clueless! New York City cut back it's police funding by one BILLION dollars!
The budget cuts nearly $484 million from the NYPD's annual $6 billion budget and shifts funding to other agencies as well as youth and social services programming.

So you are against helping these youth before there is a need for them to have interaction with the police. You know back to that thing called ROOT CAUSE.
By all means back it up, don't talk about be about it.
 
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Guns do not - indeed, can not - cause crime, and thus, are not a root cause of crime.
And... you cannot get rid of them.
Hard to hit innocent bystanders down the road, through an apartment or house with a knife or a rock. Crime increased dramatically when access to guns increased.
Crime is caused by motivation, opportunity, and a lack of moral fiber.
What is the biggest element of crime that affects most neighborhoods in the Hood?
 

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The budget cuts nearly $484 million from the NYPD's annual $6 billion budget and shifts funding to other agencies as well as youth and social services programming.

So you are against helping these youth before there is a need for them to have interaction with the police. You know back to that thing called ROOT CAUSE.

By all means back it up, don't talk about be about it.
So let me get this straight...you claim no cities cut Police budgets and then when it's pointed out that New York cut it's police budget by a Billion dollars your response is to claim that New York only cut it's budget by $484 million? Correct me if I'm wrong here "Super" but isn't 484 million more than zero? Duh?
 

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Hard to hit innocent bystanders down the road, through an apartment or house with a knife or a rock.
Nothing here changes the fact guns cannot cause a crime, and thus, cannot be a root cause of same.
Crime increased dramatically when access to guns increased.
Unsupportable nonsense
What is the biggest element of crime that affects most neighborhoods in the Hood?
Lack of moral fiber.
 

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Convenient how you left out the rest of the story.
You know - the part were 5.56 is -considerably- more powerful than handgun rounds, which kill 600-700x more people -- thus negating your impossibly ignorant claim that ARs kill fewer than 100 people per year because of their weak ammo.
Why did you leave that part out?
You should tell your story about handguns, but still. ........................

Yeah, compared to most hunting rifles.
 

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I saw a report on CBS News today on the 29% number

A couple of clueless Karens were perplexed and grasping for an explanation for the rising murder rate WITHOUT mentioning the lib media and Black Lies Matter war on the police

It was not pretty

The murder rate is from 2020.. The numbers for 2021 are not in yet.
 

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This article looks at the massive increase in murder......it shows in the charts how the rise in murder correlates to the blm and democrat party attacks on police following the George Floyd case......the democrats have decided they want to put control of police in Federal hands......so they did everything they could to undermine the police....using their terrorist wings, the blm and antifa thugs of the democrat party...

Here's the reason why the murder rate shot up.

Despite your fearmongering about scary darkies, most Americans are killed by friends and family because we stupidly let civilians have guns.

Last year, we were all locked in our homes with our families, often with no other contact. We worked from home, we rarely went out to restaurants and movies and concerts and other distractions. We just stayed home getting on each other's nerves. People lost jobs, people were anxious about Covid...

And not surprisingly, more domestic arguments ended in murder.

In fact, the number of police shot in the line of duty DIDN'T Go up in 2020, despite the BLM and Antifa demonstrations.

In fact, the number of cops shot in 2020 was 45.

The number of cops shot in 2019 was 49.

 
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Here's the reason why the murder rate shot up.

Despite your fearmongering about scary darkies, most Americans are killed by friends and family because we stupidly let civilians have guns.

Last year, we were all locked in our homes with our families, often with no other contact. We worked from home, we rarely went out to restaurants and movies and concerts and other distractions. We just stayed home getting on each other's nerves. People lost jobs, people were anxious about Covid...

And not surprisingly, more domestic arguments ended in murder.

In fact, the number of police shot in the line of duty DIDN'T Go up in 2020, despite the BLM and Antifa demonstrations.

In fact, the number of cops shot in 2020 was 45.

The number of cops shot in 2019 was 49.



No...moron......the Ferguson effect and the democrats using blm and antifa to burn court houses and police stations......you idiot.

Cops have stopped being pro-active because of the democrats, the slave rapist party you vote for, and their blm and antifa terrorists.....
 

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No...moron......the Ferguson effect and the democrats using blm and antifa to burn court houses and police stations......you idiot.

Cops have stopped being pro-active because of the democrats, the slave rapist party you vote for, and their blm and antifa terrorists.....

Uh, okay, I'm sure that's the NRA talking point, but the fact is, very few deaths were linked to BLM and Antifa demonstrations.

Most murders were people killing their friends and family.

 

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The murder rate is from 2020.. The numbers for 2021 are not in yet.
The lib attacks on the police have been going on since obama was in the white house
 

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Uh, okay, I'm sure that's the NRA talking point, but the fact is, very few deaths were linked to BLM and Antifa demonstrations.

Most murders were people killing their friends and family.
Libs are clueless

Leftwing cities where the murder rate is highest are defunding the police and reducing the police force

Those that remain have a target on their back with understandable low morale

And the bad guys are filling the void
 

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The lib attacks on the police have been going on since obama was in the white house

Well, Obama set up the Taskforce for 211st Century Policing to restore respect and confidence in law enforcement.
 

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Well, Obama set up the Taskforce for 211st Century Policing to restore respect and confidence in law enforcement.
And the BLM riots only got worse
 

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Here's the reason why the murder rate shot up.

Despite your fearmongering about scary darkies, most Americans are killed by friends and family because we stupidly let civilians have guns.

Last year, we were all locked in our homes with our families, often with no other contact. We worked from home, we rarely went out to restaurants and movies and concerts and other distractions. We just stayed home getting on each other's nerves. People lost jobs, people were anxious about Covid...

And not surprisingly, more domestic arguments ended in murder.

In fact, the number of police shot in the line of duty DIDN'T Go up in 2020, despite the BLM and Antifa demonstrations.

In fact, the number of cops shot in 2020 was 45.

The number of cops shot in 2019 was 49.

The murder rate in cities like Chicago are NOT rising because people are locked in their homes with Covid! That's a total crock. It's gang bangers shooting other gang bangers or innocent bystanders that are driving this spike in crime and THAT is happening because there are fewer Police on the streets because liberals have defunded the Police and made it impossible for those who remain to do their jobs! You've gotten rid of Stop and Frisk. You've gotten rid of the Police squads that targeted gangs and guns. You OWN the result!
 

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