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Why murder rose 29% last year....no, it isn't guns. The democrat war on police is a major problem.

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There is no "war on police," only war on corrupt police. There is a huge difference between honest police and corrupt ones. We saw corrupt police in Kenosha refusing to enforce the law, which resulted in two deaths and a serious injury, and we saw honorable police valiantly battling to protect our government on Jan. 6.

BTW: most murders do not occur in the presence of police. They usually are called to the scene after a murder has occurred.
We had mayors of cities refuse to enforce the laws, telling police to stand down, that resulted in two deaths in Seattle. We have governors that refuse to enforce immigration laws that have resulted in deaths. I'm not dismissing bad cops by any means, they should be held accountable, just like mayors and governors.
 

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Reuters, AP News and BBC have been reporting for several weeks that violent crimes are skyrocketing across Blue Cities in the US due to Defund the Police.
Time for the mentally ill to bring up Jan 6.
 

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Correlation is not causality. The increase also corresponds just as closely to the popularity of the movie "A Star Is Born"
No, all the increases in murders are in areas where democrats demonized and defunded the police. We can also track a bunch of murders that took place at democrat protests last year. Your party is extremely violent and destructive.
 

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This article looks at the massive increase in murder......i

Finally coming to admit that there's a massive increase.

Actually due to Covid in part and also due to the massive amount of political hating of the other side that is driving gun owners to resort to using their guns to settle thier scores.

Their scores being widely varied.

And of course their efficiency at killing is dramatically enhanced by their choice of AR type weapons!
 

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and also due to the massive amount of political hating of the other side that is driving gun owners to resort to using their guns to settle thier scores.
Unsupportable nonsense
And of course their efficiency at killing is dramatically enhanced by their choice of AR type weapons!
Explain then, how and why the number of people murdered with AR15s is less than 100/yr.
 

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You're right, it isn't guns. They are inanimate objects that can't actually do anything. It's our society that's the issue.
Yes, a society that can't be trusted to limit their gun use to safe and peaceful measures.
 

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Finally coming to admit that there's a massive increase.

Actually due to Covid in part and also due to the massive amount of political hating of the other side that is driving gun owners to resort to using their guns to settle thier scores.

Their scores being widely varied.

And of course their efficiency at killing is dramatically enhanced by their choice of AR type weapons!
What in the fuck are you babbling about? Where did you come up with this nutty shit?
 

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Unsupportable nonsense

Explain then, how and why the number of people murdered with AR15s is less than 100/yr.
It could be as one poster maintained that they have weak bullets. If there are 100 murdered by AR's then there must be 500 more that are wounded and crippled.

The shooters with the AR's are likely just as happy with wounded people as dead people.
You don't take a hunting rifle to a planned shooting.
 

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It could be as one poster maintained that they have weak bullets
Wow. This is an exceptionally ignorant claim.
As as far as rifles go, 5.56x45 is realitvely weak, but it is --considerably -- more powerful than ANY handgun round - and handguns are used to kill 600-700x more people.
Try again.
 

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MSDNC talaking points.
If my opinions explode your head then either ignore them or offer your own reasons why there's such an increase.
If you were the least interested in the discussion you would know that Covid has had an effect.
 

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No, all the increases in murders are in areas where democrats demonized and defunded the police. We can also track a bunch of murders that took place at democrat protests last year. Your party is extremely violent and destructive.
I'm sure you really believe all that. After all, anyone who could fall for trump's big lie will believe anything.
 

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I'm sure you really believe all that. After all, anyone who could fall for trump's big lie will believe anything.
Do you have evidence that rightwing areas had an increase in murders? Ill wait.
 

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Wow. This is an exceptionally ignorant claim.
As as far as rifles go, 5.56x45 is realitvely weak, but it is --considerably -- more powerful than ANY handgun round - and handguns are used to kill 600-700x more people.
Try again.
No need to try again, you've just confirmed the idea that the AR's shoot mostly weak bullets.

And handguns are handy for when a gun owner goes out on the town and gets drunk. They're the coward's equalizer. They've become the average American's equalizer against big black tough guys.
 

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