why mental health checks for guns can't pass muster....

[jc456]

What does the law say?
Since I know you don't know, I'll give you plenty of time to look it up.

Do you agree that a man as obviously impulsive and willing to break the law should be given his guns back?
I didn't ask what the law says. I asked what YOUR opinion is.

The law is the only thing that matters. Opinions don't.

Your answer is bullshit. You have plenty of opinions about laws in this country, including those that limit the rights of gun owners.

In my opion Hillary Clinton committed dozens of felonies...should she be arrested and charged, now?

Do you agree that a man as obviously impulsive and willing to break the law should be given his guns back?

did he use his gun during the dispute?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

And what type of arms did they envision?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Photo of 21st century arms:

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

And what type of arms did they envision?

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You left out cannons.The people in those days saw a transition from Brown Bess's to Flint Locks so innovations in arms were not unheard of and expected.

 

[jc456]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

And what type of arms did they envision?

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did they say?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Photo of 21st century arms:

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Military weapons which are illegal for everyday citizens to own. By the way the top one is an experimental weapon that won't be fielded until next year if ever.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Easy fix, no guns.

You guys had the same solution to free blacks....no votes. that wasn't acceptable either.

The Founders wrote All Men Were Created Equal, an obvious lie. I'm much more honest.

They also wrote The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

And what type of arms did they envision?

View attachment 65449

You left out cannons.The people in those days saw a transition from Brown Bess's to Flint Locks so innovations in arms were not unheard of and expected.

When was the last time a citizen could afford to purchase a cannon, or carry it to a movie theater or classroom? Be real, the Bill of Rights was promised for the sole reason without it the Constitution would not be ratified by the required number of states, and it was done to limit the power of the FEDERAL Government:

"On their face, it is obvious that the amendments apply to actions by the federal government, not to actions by the states. In 1833, in Barron v. Baltimore, Chief Justice John Marshall confirmed that understanding. Barron had sued the city for damage to a wharf, resting his claim on the Fifth Amendment’s requirement that private property not be taken for public use “without just compensation.” Marshall ruled that the Fifth Amendment was intended “solely as a limitation on the exercise of power by the government of the United States, and is not applicable to the legislation of the states.”

Bill of Rights - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

 

[Wry Catcher]

Photo of 21st century arms:

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Military weapons which are illegal for everyday citizens to own. By the way the top one is an experimental weapon that won't be fielded until next year if ever.

Well, your comment goes to prove my point. Such weapons are considered by the more extreme supporters of the 2nd A. as wrongly restricted by a tyrannical government.

 

[2aguy]

Photo of 21st century arms:

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any small arm that the military or police have needs to be available for civilians........we pay for their guns...they don't tell us what guns we can have......

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Photo of 21st century arms:

View attachment 65450

Military weapons which are illegal for everyday citizens to own. By the way the top one is an experimental weapon that won't be fielded until next year if ever.

Well, your comment goes to prove my point. Such weapons are considered by the more extreme supporters of the 2nd A. as wrongly restricted by a tyrannical government.

As a law abiding citizen if I want those types of weapons I should be able to get them. But they are restricted by the Government.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Supreme Court is currently hearing the case of two men denied ownership of guns because of domestic violence misdemeanors. One of the men, who was convicted over 10 years ago for the DV, has gone on to be arrested for various things, including probation violations, DUI, and illegally possessing five guns. Their argument is that a misdemeanor isn't serious enough to take away a person's 2nd amendment rights.
Do you agree that a man as obviously impulsive and willing to break the law should be given his guns back?

What does the law say?
Since I know you don't know, I'll give you plenty of time to look it up.

Do you agree that a man as obviously impulsive and willing to break the law should be given his guns back?
I didn't ask what the law says. I asked what YOUR opinion is.

If the state does not return the firearms of someone legally able to own them, the state the violates the rights of that person.
How can you possibly disagree?

Right now, it is against the law for him to own firearms forever because of the DV charge. That is what is being challenged in the SC.

I'm sorry... I didn't see where you agreed or disagreed with my response.
Well?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Using Hitler in this manner is both dishonest and a deflection from the real argument for gun controls - the costs in terms of blood and treasure on our economy

More mindless nonsense from someone who can only argue from emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.
For every gun used to commit murder yesterday, 16.4 million were not; this negates any argument you might want to make.

 

[M14 Shooter]

And what type of arms did they envision?

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More dishonest, mindless nonsense from a anti-gun loon.

According to the law:
Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment . We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997) , and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001) , the Second Amendment extends, prima facie,to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER

 

[M14 Shooter]

When was the last time a citizen could afford to purchase a cannon, or carry it to a movie theater or classroom? Be real, the Bill of Rights was promised for the sole reason without it the Constitution would not be ratified by the required number of states, and it was done to limit the power of the FEDERAL Government:

More mindless nonsense.
14th Amendment

 

[2aguy]

When was the last time a citizen could afford to purchase a cannon, or carry it to a movie theater or classroom? Be real, the Bill of Rights was promised for the sole reason without it the Constitution would not be ratified by the required number of states, and it was done to limit the power of the FEDERAL Government:

More mindless nonsense.
14th Amendment

Wow....using facts, the truth and reality debating a lefty.....is that really fair?