Why many Americans hate Russia?

[rightwinger]

Dont worry

Republicans still love Russia

Stupid.

They are

They used to abhor everything Russian, now they worship its leader

 

[BrokeLoser]

Russia is not less liberal and democratic then Israel or let alone Saudi Arabia. Who are good allies of the USA. I dont think Russia wants to conquer the world. The cold war is over. Yet still many americans see Russia as enemy, and especially the elites and the ones who make american politics. I dont know about the average joe or population.

Why many Americans hate Russia?
Russia is not America's enemy....Mexico, Central and South America are Americas largest threats hands-down...PERIOD!

 

[Mortimer]

Russia is not less liberal and democratic then Israel or let alone Saudi Arabia. Who are good allies of the USA. I dont think Russia wants to conquer the world. The cold war is over. Yet still many americans see Russia as enemy, and especially the elites and the ones who make american politics. I dont know about the average joe or population.

huh......

Israel is an actual democracy in function.
Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship in function.
Russia is very similar to Saudi Arabia.

The reason we support Israel, is because it is moral, and because it is a western style democracy, and because they respect human rights.

The reason we support Saudi Arabia, is because they are friendly to the US, and they have a bunch of absolute crazy people in their own country, and in surrounding countries, that the Saudis are a check against. Think of it like what happened with the Shaw of Iran was overthrown. They were overthrown by crazy people, and now Iran is a regional destabilizing force. If you can imagine what would happen if crazy people got control of Saudi Arabia, it would be a nightmare for everyone in the area.

As for Russia.... Generally Russia's internal politics, are not all that important to me. It doesn't bother me that Putin was an ex-soviet officer, or that Russia wants to gain more regional influence.

The issue I have is how they go about doing that. They invaded Georgia.... for what? Because they arrest four clear Russian spies? If you found US spies in Russia, would you not arrest them? And then they expelled Georgia people who had lived and worked in Russia as Russian citizens for decades, over having your spies caught?

And then landing troops in Ukraine? Waging a war without cause or reason? For what?

So this is the problem we're having with Russia. Russia has tons of natural resources, and tons of land. They have so much they could do to build their country up, without randomly killing people without real cause, and stealing land.

Russia needs to do one thing, and relations will start to mend.
Pull out of Ukraine completely. Stop lying about all those rebel groups, and local militias. We all know Russia is supplying the rebels, and that members of their own military, are currently in action in the Ukraine. Pull them all out. All of them. Cut off funding and support for the war effort.

Russia is not a dictatorship at least not a tyrannic one. Putin might be a autocratic leader but not a Dictator or Tyrannt. Erdogan is very similar to Putin yet Turkey is a ally of the USA. That Putin invaded crimea is simple, because there it is very geopolitically and Military-strategically important as well that there is a huge russian Population there. Americans have much less to do with that area then Russia. It would the same if Russia meddles in the Southwest where many Mexicans live and creates trouble in Mexico etc. The US wouldnt respond well to that. Well I see the USA as agressor in Ukraine not Russia. Also the USA is just as Russia involved in middle eastern conflicts. Why do you think that a unipolar world where the USA and only the USA can and is allowed to own weapons of mass destruction and to Projects it`s influence in the world is better then when there are more then one country and they would keep a check and balance of eatch other just like division of power within a democracy. I see clearly the USA as agressor in the world because they are the only remaining superpower and they want to eliminate everyone who has the least bit power or influence.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Reagan should have been given the Nobel Prize for ending the cold war.

 

[depotoo]

Oh, quit with your fantastical fallacies.
You look really silly.

Dont worry

Republicans still love Russia

Stupid.

They are

They used to abhor everything Russian, now they worship its leader

 

[JGalt]

This question goes out specifically to nationalists not liberals though

Why is Stalin worse then Hitler? Why so many nationalists have high respect for Hitler but dislike Stalin. The eastern communists werent solely cultural-marxists as the eqvivalent in the west nowadays. They didnt had LGBTQ propaganda and thousand gender identities. They didnt had mass immigration and they were nationalist, maybe not racialist but they were patriotic think of the military parades and leader worship also that the people rule "rule of the people" and own the means of production. Well the eastern block had more then only Whites, but thats because Russia is partly in asia and there always have been asians and such there but they didnt imported masses of migrants. They had border controll and protection. Similar as Chinas economy isnt solely marxist and the chinese are also nationalist. As foreigner you cant get chinese citizenship or very hard not even if you are Born there, only in very rare cases and yet it is a communist country. The communists were internationalists as oppossed to nationalists but their nationalism was based on solidarity of the people across the globe and to install socialist governments in eatch country and cooperation not on free for all open borders. I rather blame the neo-liberals for the free for all open borders, and the capital and huge corporations. The communists also put high value on work and progress. The only thing I blame them for is their anti-Religion stance and anti-culture stance that they destroyed cultural heritage like in China and Russia. Well it was because they believed in progressivism of technology and society. But the nazis did similar and hold similar beliefs, the nazis were also revolutionaries not reactionaries yet the nationalists respect them and like them. Any opinions?

I'm a "nationalist" and have no respect for either Hitler or Stalin. They both had millions of people murdered.

I see but many nationalists think of Hitler as great man though.

You are confusing Americans who believe in American exceptionalism with the much smaller subset who are also Racist Extremists. They all fall under the umbrella of "Nationalists" like myself, but only a small number are neo-Nazi extremists.

Thats true. But many White Nationalists are anti-semitic and they believe that jews work to subvert america, europe and gentiles.

There are far fewer than those, than the media portrays. It isn't Jews who have subverted this country, it's communism, along with their useful idiots the American left. I'm white and make no apologies. I'm also a "nationalist" because I believe this is the greatest country in the world.

 

[depotoo]

Russia is not less liberal and democratic then Israel or let alone Saudi Arabia. Who are good allies of the USA. I dont think Russia wants to conquer the world. The cold war is over. Yet still many americans see Russia as enemy, and especially the elites and the ones who make american politics. I dont know about the average joe or population.

huh......

Israel is an actual democracy in function.
Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship in function.
Russia is very similar to Saudi Arabia.

The reason we support Israel, is because it is moral, and because it is a western style democracy, and because they respect human rights.

The reason we support Saudi Arabia, is because they are friendly to the US, and they have a bunch of absolute crazy people in their own country, and in surrounding countries, that the Saudis are a check against. Think of it like what happened with the Shaw of Iran was overthrown. They were overthrown by crazy people, and now Iran is a regional destabilizing force. If you can imagine what would happen if crazy people got control of Saudi Arabia, it would be a nightmare for everyone in the area.

As for Russia.... Generally Russia's internal politics, are not all that important to me. It doesn't bother me that Putin was an ex-soviet officer, or that Russia wants to gain more regional influence.

The issue I have is how they go about doing that. They invaded Georgia.... for what? Because they arrest four clear Russian spies? If you found US spies in Russia, would you not arrest them? And then they expelled Georgia people who had lived and worked in Russia as Russian citizens for decades, over having your spies caught?

And then landing troops in Ukraine? Waging a war without cause or reason? For what?

So this is the problem we're having with Russia. Russia has tons of natural resources, and tons of land. They have so much they could do to build their country up, without randomly killing people without real cause, and stealing land.

Russia needs to do one thing, and relations will start to mend.
Pull out of Ukraine completely. Stop lying about all those rebel groups, and local militias. We all know Russia is supplying the rebels, and that members of their own military, are currently in action in the Ukraine. Pull them all out. All of them. Cut off funding and support for the war effort.

Russia is not a dictatorship at least not a tyrannic one. Putin might be a autocratic leader but not a Dictator or Tyrannt. Erdogan is very similar to Putin yet Turkey is a ally of the USA. That Putin invaded crimea is simple, because there it is very geopolitically and Military-strategically important as well that there is a huge russian Population there. Americans have much less to do with that area then Russia. It would the same if Russia meddles in the Southwest where many Mexicans live and creates trouble in Mexico etc. The US wouldnt respond well to that. Well I see the USA as agressor in Ukraine not Russia. Also the USA is just as Russia involved in middle eastern conflicts. Why do you think that a unipolar world where the USA and only the USA can and is allowed to own weapons of mass destruction and to Projects it`s influence in the world is better then when there are more then one country and they would keep a check and balance of eatch other just like division of power within a democracy. I see clearly the USA as agressor in the world because they are the only remaining superpower and they want to eliminate everyone who has the least bit power or influence.

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[Mortimer]

This question goes out specifically to nationalists not liberals though

Why is Stalin worse then Hitler? Why so many nationalists have high respect for Hitler but dislike Stalin. The eastern communists werent solely cultural-marxists as the eqvivalent in the west nowadays. They didnt had LGBTQ propaganda and thousand gender identities. They didnt had mass immigration and they were nationalist, maybe not racialist but they were patriotic think of the military parades and leader worship also that the people rule "rule of the people" and own the means of production. Well the eastern block had more then only Whites, but thats because Russia is partly in asia and there always have been asians and such there but they didnt imported masses of migrants. They had border controll and protection. Similar as Chinas economy isnt solely marxist and the chinese are also nationalist. As foreigner you cant get chinese citizenship or very hard not even if you are Born there, only in very rare cases and yet it is a communist country. The communists were internationalists as oppossed to nationalists but their nationalism was based on solidarity of the people across the globe and to install socialist governments in eatch country and cooperation not on free for all open borders. I rather blame the neo-liberals for the free for all open borders, and the capital and huge corporations. The communists also put high value on work and progress. The only thing I blame them for is their anti-Religion stance and anti-culture stance that they destroyed cultural heritage like in China and Russia. Well it was because they believed in progressivism of technology and society. But the nazis did similar and hold similar beliefs, the nazis were also revolutionaries not reactionaries yet the nationalists respect them and like them. Any opinions?

I'm a "nationalist" and have no respect for either Hitler or Stalin. They both had millions of people murdered.

I see but many nationalists think of Hitler as great man though.

You are confusing Americans who believe in American exceptionalism with the much smaller subset who are also Racist Extremists. They all fall under the umbrella of "Nationalists" like myself, but only a small number are neo-Nazi extremists.

Thats true. But many White Nationalists are anti-semitic and they believe that jews work to subvert america, europe and gentiles.

There are far fewer than those, than the media portrays. It isn't Jews who have subverted this country, it's communism, along with their useful idiots the American left. I'm white and make no apologies. I'm also a "nationalist" because I believe this is the greatest country in the world.

True. But I think thats perverted communism. Not the communism I support or socialism. The Basic meaning of socialism is that "the People rule" and that the "Workers own their own means of production" having free for all open borders, and dumbing down wages with foreign illegal Immigrant Workers isnt really socialism.

 

[danielpalos]

Russia is not less liberal and democratic then Israel or let alone Saudi Arabia. Who are good allies of the USA. I dont think Russia wants to conquer the world. The cold war is over. Yet still many americans see Russia as enemy, and especially the elites and the ones who make american politics. I dont know about the average joe or population.

The right wing only knows how to lose money with warfare-State economics. Russia is not a problem since the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

Besides, the right wing has nothing to hide their bigotry without the general warfare.

 

[Likkmee]

I've been to Ukrain and Russia about 7 times in 20 years
Ukranians are fucking idiots( comical tho) and Russians are stand-offish.
Very bright once they warm up to you a little. The first few days it's just " How can I help you". DONE.
After a week ask....wanna go have a few shots ? OK vut da fuk. Zoo meet my vifes seester OK ?

 

[22lcidw]

Dont worry

Republicans still love Russia

Stupid.

They are

They used to abhor everything Russian, now they worship its leader

Being threatened by you and worse makes the choice easy. Even defending ones self with your laws skewered for you will send someone to jail. Get your own chitt in gear and take it back a few steps and welcome the real world instead of the hyper victim minority one that is destroying this great experiment.

 

[rightwinger]

Russia is not less liberal and democratic then Israel or let alone Saudi Arabia. Who are good allies of the USA. I dont think Russia wants to conquer the world. The cold war is over. Yet still many americans see Russia as enemy, and especially the elites and the ones who make american politics. I dont know about the average joe or population.

Why many Americans hate Russia?
Russia is not America's enemy....Mexico, Central and South America are Americas largest threats hands-down...PERIOD!

Ridiculous

Mexico has always been one of our staunchest allies

 

[Likkmee]

I love most people. I hate EVERY govt.

 

[rightwinger]

Dont worry

Republicans still love Russia

Stupid.

They are

They used to abhor everything Russian, now they worship its leader

Being threatened by you and worse makes the choice easy. Even defending ones self with your laws skewered for you will send someone to jail. Get your own chitt in gear and take it back a few steps and welcome the real world instead of the hyper victim minority one that is destroying this great experiment.

Never thought I would see a Republican cowering before the Russians

 

[MarathonMike]

I'm a "nationalist" and have no respect for either Hitler or Stalin. They both had millions of people murdered.

I see but many nationalists think of Hitler as great man though.

You are confusing Americans who believe in American exceptionalism with the much smaller subset who are also Racist Extremists. They all fall under the umbrella of "Nationalists" like myself, but only a small number are neo-Nazi extremists.

Thats true. But many White Nationalists are anti-semitic and they believe that jews work to subvert america, europe and gentiles.

There are far fewer than those, than the media portrays. It isn't Jews who have subverted this country, it's communism, along with their useful idiots the American left. I'm white and make no apologies. I'm also a "nationalist" because I believe this is the greatest country in the world.

True. But I think thats perverted communism. Not the communism I support or socialism. The Basic meaning of socialism is that "the People rule" and that the "Workers own their own means of production" having free for all open borders, and dumbing down wages with foreign illegal Immigrant Workers isnt really socialism.

Nope, American Nationalism is just about the polar opposite of Communism.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Dont worry

Republicans still love Russia

Ted Kennedy is now a Republican?

The Kremlin’s Dupe: Ted Kennedy’s Russia Romance | The American Spectator | Politics is too important to be taken seriously.

 

[JGalt]

I'm a "nationalist" and have no respect for either Hitler or Stalin. They both had millions of people murdered.

I see but many nationalists think of Hitler as great man though.

You are confusing Americans who believe in American exceptionalism with the much smaller subset who are also Racist Extremists. They all fall under the umbrella of "Nationalists" like myself, but only a small number are neo-Nazi extremists.

Thats true. But many White Nationalists are anti-semitic and they believe that jews work to subvert america, europe and gentiles.

There are far fewer than those, than the media portrays. It isn't Jews who have subverted this country, it's communism, along with their useful idiots the American left. I'm white and make no apologies. I'm also a "nationalist" because I believe this is the greatest country in the world.

True. But I think thats perverted communism. Not the communism I support or socialism. The Basic meaning of socialism is that "the People rule" and that the "Workers own their own means of production" having free for all open borders, and dumbing down wages with foreign illegal Immigrant Workers isnt really socialism.

Communism and socialism are both dismal failures. Neither one of them has ever worked, no matter where or when they were tried. Your country has a long way to go before it can consider itself free. Take for example the band Pussy Riot. They were sent to prison for exercising what we have in our constitution, the right to free speech. Your country doesn't even allow the ownership of firearms, while I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon almost anywhere I go.

Ain't this a great country?

 

[JWBooth]

I love most people. I hate EVERY govt.

I’m with you brother

 

[danielpalos]

I've been to Ukrain and Russia about 7 times in 20 years
Ukranians are fucking idiots( comical tho) and Russians are stand-offish.
Very bright once they warm up to you a little. The first few days it's just " How can I help you". DONE.
After a week ask....wanna go have a few shots ? OK vut da fuk. Zoo meet my vifes seester OK ?

i heard redheads like to "get results".

 

[Likkmee]

Russia is not less liberal and democratic then Israel or let alone Saudi Arabia. Who are good allies of the USA. I dont think Russia wants to conquer the world. The cold war is over. Yet still many americans see Russia as enemy, and especially the elites and the ones who make american politics. I dont know about the average joe or population.

Why many Americans hate Russia?
Russia is not America's enemy....Mexico, Central and South America are Americas largest threats hands-down...PERIOD!

Ridiculous

Mexico has always been one of our staunchest allies

In 1992 after hurricane Andrew I prided my self with an ' all gringo" landscape company. It lasted a couple months. I fired every one of those useless motherfuckers and hired Mexicans and Guatemalans. Fine young men and very hungry.
The mommas boys with the ear rings ran home to mommy. I've been to more Mexican baptisms and birthdays than I have restaurants. Nice kids. Campesino (country folk). NOT the scum from Mexico city. I'll shoot those pieces of shit