Why Liberals hate Corporations......

[EdwardBaiamonte]

yes they are passed on to us as consumers i nthe form of higher prices. We have the tax only to pander to the pure ignorance of liberals who are far too stupid to know they pay the tax.
Good that you are smarter than the average liberal but still a liberal, sadly. Do you want to be a liberal all your life? Do you think you will get into heaven that way??

I'm no Liberal, I'm a Fascist, and see Capitalism as a main source ofliberalism

You don't want to let on that you are a bit on the crazy illiterate side do you? There is a book called liberal fascism at perhaps you might want to read. To get you started in must understand
It world history is based on the concept of government versus freedom. Liberals fascist kings Nazis communist Democrats dictators autocrats are all on the side of government and all the same and all illegal in America which is based on freedom from government. Now you got the basics down

Liberals support freedom, and equality, the exact opposite of Fascists.

Fascists aren't Liberals.

Fascists are Nationalists, who believe that the government must be managed to sustain a socially Conservative environment, or else things get Liberal, and out of hand, like in the USA, where Capitalists seek for Illegal immigrants, outsourced jobs, feminism, and other Liberal garbage to maximize profits from cheap labor.

Fascists are liberals liberals are fascist liberals support big government our founders our constitution support limited government.

Fascists are Nationalists, not Conservatives, or Liberals, we put National interest first.

Conservatives put Capitalism first.

Liberals put Equality first.

Both are failing big time in the U.S.A.

Fascism manages the economy for national interest, so Liberals like the media, and Hollywood don't spread Liberalism, and Capitalists don't hire illegals, or outsource jobs.

Liberal fascism depends upon a monopoly bureaucracy and therefore is doomed to failure. Capitalist composition competition provides a daily and hourly incentive To make the economyme improvethat is the essential lesson of our constitution monopoly government fails capitalist Deregulation succeeds!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I told you what capitalism is. If a guy is a capitalist and he commits murder that becomes an indictment of the man not the economic philosophy. Is this really over your head?

There's about a dozen Hodomor like famines in British controlled India, at time when Britain was Capitalist.

So, if anything it's not the Soviets, or Nazis but rather the British Empire who were the crown champions of brutality.

Yes and if they had been true Capitalists everybody would've gotten rich very quickly exactly is there getting rich in China today. Ever heard of east west Germany ever heard of north-south Korea ever heard of Cuba Florida?freedom Works liberal fascist communist socialist regulation does not work

Fascist style governments achieve the best results.

Nazi Germany grew faster in the 1930's in economy than the U.S.A.

Franco's Spain adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century Europe.

FDR, adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century America.

Other notable mentions are Peron of Argentina achieving fast economic growth, or China today.

Fascist government's achieve the best results? Hitler and Mussolini killed 60 million people and got killed themselves I would hardly describe that he has the best results

Nope, more like Hitler killed 20 - 30 million people, and Mussolini 1 million.

That's actually about how many the Capitalist U.S.A has killed since WW2 has ended in all of it's wars. (That doesn't even include all those killed by America since it's foundation, including thousands of Native Americans, and 600,000 in the Civil War.)

Let's not quibble about how many millions your liberal fascist friends killed let's just note that there regimes were remarkably deadly in the scheme of human affairs and that you seem to have a soft spot for these wonderful people. I suggest you begin your education sooner rather than later. You can start with a great great book called "liberal fascism"

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

So, Britain wasn't Capitalist in the 19th - 20th century during Raj India?

I told you what capitalism is. If a guy is a capitalist and he commits murder that becomes an indictment of the man not the economic philosophy. Is this really over your head?

There's about a dozen Hodomor like famines in British controlled India, at time when Britain was Capitalist.

So, if anything it's not the Soviets, or Nazis but rather the British Empire who were the crown champions of brutality.

Yes and if they had been true Capitalists everybody would've gotten rich very quickly exactly is there getting rich in China today. Ever heard of east west Germany ever heard of north-south Korea ever heard of Cuba Florida?freedom Works liberal fascist communist socialist regulation does not work

Fascist style governments achieve the best results.

Nazi Germany grew faster in the 1930's in economy than the U.S.A.

Franco's Spain adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century Europe.

FDR, adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century America.

Other notable mentions are Peron of Argentina achieving fast economic growth, or China today.

FDR presided over the great depression. Of the worst economic growth in American history. We call it the great depression who would not say that it was a period of fast fast growth rather the exact opposite

FDR achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century America, and he micromanaged the economy, and added public works to the mix like a Fascist.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

There's about a dozen Hodomor like famines in British controlled India, at time when Britain was Capitalist.

So, if anything it's not the Soviets, or Nazis but rather the British Empire who were the crown champions of brutality.

Yes and if they had been true Capitalists everybody would've gotten rich very quickly exactly is there getting rich in China today. Ever heard of east west Germany ever heard of north-south Korea ever heard of Cuba Florida?freedom Works liberal fascist communist socialist regulation does not work

Fascist style governments achieve the best results.

Nazi Germany grew faster in the 1930's in economy than the U.S.A.

Franco's Spain adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century Europe.

FDR, adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century America.

Other notable mentions are Peron of Argentina achieving fast economic growth, or China today.

Fascist government's achieve the best results? Hitler and Mussolini killed 60 million people and got killed themselves I would hardly describe that he has the best results

Nope, more like Hitler killed 20 - 30 million people, and Mussolini 1 million.

That's actually about how many the Capitalist U.S.A has killed since WW2 has ended in all of it's wars. (That doesn't even include all those killed by America since it's foundation, including thousands of Native Americans, and 600,000 in the Civil War.)

Let's not quibble about how many millions your fascist friends killed let's just note that there regimes were remarkably deadly in the scheme of human affairs

Capitalists killed more than Fascists have.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yes and if they had been true Capitalists everybody would've gotten rich very quickly exactly is there getting rich in China today. Ever heard of east west Germany ever heard of north-south Korea ever heard of Cuba Florida?freedom Works liberal fascist communist socialist regulation does not work

Fascist style governments achieve the best results.

Nazi Germany grew faster in the 1930's in economy than the U.S.A.

Franco's Spain adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century Europe.

FDR, adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century America.

Other notable mentions are Peron of Argentina achieving fast economic growth, or China today.

Fascist government's achieve the best results? Hitler and Mussolini killed 60 million people and got killed themselves I would hardly describe that he has the best results

Nope, more like Hitler killed 20 - 30 million people, and Mussolini 1 million.

That's actually about how many the Capitalist U.S.A has killed since WW2 has ended in all of it's wars. (That doesn't even include all those killed by America since it's foundation, including thousands of Native Americans, and 600,000 in the Civil War.)

Let's not quibble about how many millions your fascist friends killed let's just note that there regimes were remarkably deadly in the scheme of human affairs

Capitalists killed more than Fascists have.

I have already explained to you what capitalism is. Do you forget your lessons so quickly?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I told you what capitalism is. If a guy is a capitalist and he commits murder that becomes an indictment of the man not the economic philosophy. Is this really over your head?

There's about a dozen Hodomor like famines in British controlled India, at time when Britain was Capitalist.

So, if anything it's not the Soviets, or Nazis but rather the British Empire who were the crown champions of brutality.

Yes and if they had been true Capitalists everybody would've gotten rich very quickly exactly is there getting rich in China today. Ever heard of east west Germany ever heard of north-south Korea ever heard of Cuba Florida?freedom Works liberal fascist communist socialist regulation does not work

Fascist style governments achieve the best results.

Nazi Germany grew faster in the 1930's in economy than the U.S.A.

Franco's Spain adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century Europe.

FDR, adopted many Fascist policies, and achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century America.

Other notable mentions are Peron of Argentina achieving fast economic growth, or China today.

FDR presided over the great depression. Of the worst economic growth in American history. We call it the great depression who would not say that it was a period of fast fast growth rather the exact opposite

FDR achieved the fastest economic growth in 20th century America, and he micromanaged the economy, and added public works to the mix like a Fascist.

So are you saying that the great depression was actually a period of great economic growth?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I've got to run but we can continue your lesson tomorrow if you'd like. It is my honor and duty to teach you as much as I can. I hope you will continue to be a very willing student. Thank you

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I've got to run but we can continue your lesson tomorrow if you'd like. It is my honor and duty to teach you as much as I can. I hope you will continue to be a very willing student. Thank you

It's you who needs a lesson, you support a system where Capitalism comes first, even if it's at the expense of the masses, and that's a problem.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe just proved he didn't read anything in the article I just posted,

Nope, I don't read anything you post... boring.

Hey Joe , you said you own your own business, and do you pay the employees that work for you the same amount that you get? Or are you self employed making PROFITS, so you can keep both houses?

Well, my business is just me right now... and I'm good with that. That said, if I had to hire a second person, they'd get to keep whatever profit their work made. (The question still being, how much of my fee is profit vs. expenses I've incurred. Taxes were interesting this year.)

Why aren't you employing others so they can share in your success, you ******* hypocrite?

Well,because what I am selling is specifically my talent, not theirs. I'm not sure how to sell someone else's talent.

It's kind of like if I promised you a Mozart symphony, and then sent Salieri over...

As for those who make uber money, CEO's are like Pro Athletes and Movie Stars as it take plenty of education and time to achieve CEO status, so dumbass, why should liberal elites make more money and employ no one, yet CEOs make less and employ thousands?

CEO's don't employ anyone.

THis is the dark dirty secret I keep explaining to you. What creates jobs is consumer demand. YOu have consumer demand because the people who do the work are getting good money. You don't have consumer demand because so and so is CEO. I've never bought a product because So-and-So was the CEO of that company. I buy a product because I need it, and that company offers a product I like. Usually that product was there before X became CEO.

And these CEO's get their 8 figure salaries regardless of whether or not

Now, I'm not a sports fan and have never been to a pro-game in my life,and rarely watch them on TV. However, I have gone to movies if a movie stars someone I like. So, yeah, if that movie star's name bring me into the theatre, that person deserves a share of the cut.

But the thing is, the writer, the director, the film crew, the editors, etc... all the folks who are listed in the credits after a movie- they all get union wages and benefits.

Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite,

Holy Shit!!!! I think I broke him. Well, was bound to happen eventually!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I've got to run but we can continue your lesson tomorrow if you'd like. It is my honor and duty to teach you as much as I can. I hope you will continue to be a very willing student. Thank you

It's you who needs a lesson, you support a system where Capitalism comes first, even if it's at the expense of the masses, and that's a problem.

Chyna just switched to Republican capitalism and the masses have gone from slowly starving to death to getting rich. How do you get everything backwardswith such great consistency?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Joe just proved he didn't read anything in the article I just posted,

Nope, I don't read anything you post... boring.

Hey Joe , you said you own your own business, and do you pay the employees that work for you the same amount that you get? Or are you self employed making PROFITS, so you can keep both houses?

Well, my business is just me right now... and I'm good with that. That said, if I had to hire a second person, they'd get to keep whatever profit their work made. (The question still being, how much of my fee is profit vs. expenses I've incurred. Taxes were interesting this year.)

Why aren't you employing others so they can share in your success, you ******* hypocrite?

Well,because what I am selling is specifically my talent, not theirs. I'm not sure how to sell someone else's talent.

It's kind of like if I promised you a Mozart symphony, and then sent Salieri over...

As for those who make uber money, CEO's are like Pro Athletes and Movie Stars as it take plenty of education and time to achieve CEO status, so dumbass, why should liberal elites make more money and employ no one, yet CEOs make less and employ thousands?

CEO's don't employ anyone.

THis is the dark dirty secret I keep explaining to you. What creates jobs is consumer demand. YOu have consumer demand because the people who do the work are getting good money. You don't have consumer demand because so and so is CEO. I've never bought a product because So-and-So was the CEO of that company. I buy a product because I need it, and that company offers a product I like. Usually that product was there before X became CEO.

And these CEO's get their 8 figure salaries regardless of whether or not

Now, I'm not a sports fan and have never been to a pro-game in my life,and rarely watch them on TV. However, I have gone to movies if a movie stars someone I like. So, yeah, if that movie star's name bring me into the theatre, that person deserves a share of the cut.

But the thing is, the writer, the director, the film crew, the editors, etc... all the folks who are listed in the credits after a movie- they all get union wages and benefits.

Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite, Joe is a Hypocrite,

Holy Shit!!!! I think I broke him. Well, was bound to happen eventually!

Consumers create demand and that creates jobs? Demand is constant and natural people naturally demand food clothing shelter air to breath etc. It takes no talent and every human being on earth can be depended upon to naturally demand things. People demanded things for 10,000 years but it wasn't until Republican capitalists came along to supply things that the world's economy begin to take off.if one society rewards people for demanding things and another rewards people for supplying things the society that rewards people for demanding things will perish. This is something a child ought to be able to figure out. Now you understand supply side economics

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I've got to run but we can continue your lesson tomorrow if you'd like. It is my honor and duty to teach you as much as I can. I hope you will continue to be a very willing student. Thank you

It's you who needs a lesson, you support a system where Capitalism comes first, even if it's at the expense of the masses, and that's a problem.

Chyna just switched to Republican capitalism and the masses have gone from slowly starving to death to getting rich. How do you get everything backwardswith such great consistency?

To call China Republican Capitalism, is truly ridiculous.

I talked to a Chinese guy a few years back, and he told me in China they had men sweeping the streets with brooms, not because they can't afford otherwise, but to give them jobs.

China's economy is somewhat planned, and that's more like Fascism, rather than Capitalism.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

$15/hour will cause McDonalds to buy robots not hire workers thus human workers will be able to afford less.!!

So in other words, the less the worker makes, the better off he is.

Interesting concept.

The liberterians want the poor to be sweet shop workers for pennies...Evil is what they're....

The liberterians want the poor to be sweet shop workers for pennies...

I like sweet shops but those do end up ruining my teeth.

 

[JoeB131]

Chyna just switched to Republican capitalism and the masses have gone from slowly starving to death to getting rich. How do you get everything backwardswith such great consistency?

1) What China is doing isn't "Republican Capitalism".
2) It's still a pretty ******* miserable place to live for most of its one billion people.

 

[JoeB131]

Consumers create demand and that creates jobs? Demand is constant and natural people naturally demand food clothing shelter air to breath etc. It takes no talent and every human being on earth can be depended upon to naturally demand things. People demanded things for 10,000 years but it wasn't until Republican capitalists came along to supply things that the world's economy begin to take off.

But that's not really true. In fact, our lives were actually pretty miserable up until the New Deal. That when we got DEMOCRATIC capitalism demanding things like minimum wage, a safety net, unions, safe working conditions and end to child labor. Moreover, countries in Europe and Japan advanced because after World War II, those New Deal Democrats went to those countries and said, "This is how you actually do prosperity". Unfortunately, they are better at it than we are, so that's why they are eating our lunch today...

if one society rewards people for demanding things and another rewards people for supplying things the society that rewards people for demanding things will perish. This is something a child ought to be able to figure out. Now you understand supply side economics

Actually, I understand Supply side just fine. Four Recessions since 1980. that's Supply Side.

The reality is, we've never got out of a recession without Keynesian level spending.

Ronnie Reagan may have cut taxes for the rich (before he raised them on the middle class) but what got us out of the 1981 recession he caused to fight inflation was the fact that he spent hundreds of billions on weapons and infrastructure. that put people to work and created- wait for it - demand.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Consumers create demand and that creates jobs? Demand is constant and natural people naturally demand food clothing shelter air to breath etc. It takes no talent and every human being on earth can be depended upon to naturally demand things. People demanded things for 10,000 years but it wasn't until Republican capitalists came along to supply things that the world's economy begin to take off.

But that's not really true. In fact, our lives were actually pretty miserable up until the New Deal. That when we got DEMOCRATIC capitalism demanding things like minimum wage, a safety net, unions, safe working conditions and end to child labor. Moreover, countries in Europe and Japan advanced because after World War II, those New Deal Democrats went to those countries and said, "This is how you actually do prosperity". Unfortunately, they are better at it than we are, so that's why they are eating our lunch today...

if one society rewards people for demanding things and another rewards people for supplying things the society that rewards people for demanding things will perish. This is something a child ought to be able to figure out. Now you understand supply side economics

Actually, I understand Supply side just fine. Four Recessions since 1980. that's Supply Side.

The reality is, we've never got out of a recession without Keynesian level spending.

Ronnie Reagan may have cut taxes for the rich (before he raised them on the middle class) but what got us out of the 1981 recession he caused to fight inflation was the fact that he spent hundreds of billions on weapons and infrastructure. that put people to work and created- wait for it - demand.

All this bullshit from the guy who owns two houses and has a business that he uses to cheat on paying taxes. He votes Socialists but then demand all the rest of US to pay for his tax evasion. Hypocrisy at its finest.

 

[JoeB131]

All this bullshit from the guy who owns two houses and has a business that he uses to cheat on paying taxes. He votes Socialists but then demand all the rest of US to pay for his tax evasion. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Yeah, I pay more money now because I have that side business than I would pay if I didn't.

Now, I could really cheat on my taxes if I wanted to. It's a mostly cash business, all I'd have to do is 'forget' to tell the IRS how much I actually made and pay for all my groceries in cash.

And I know my two houses make you jealous when all you have is that Double Wide, Cleetus.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

All this bullshit from the guy who owns two houses and has a business that he uses to cheat on paying taxes. He votes Socialists but then demand all the rest of US to pay for his tax evasion. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Yeah, I pay more money now because I have that side business than I would pay if I didn't.

Now, I could really cheat on my taxes if I wanted to. It's a mostly cash business, all I'd have to do is 'forget' to tell the IRS how much I actually made and pay for all my groceries in cash.

And I know my two houses make you jealous when all you have is that Double Wide, Cleetus.

Joe you are like Warren Buffet, says one thing out of your mouth , but it really comes out of your ass(so full of shit). Warren Buffet pays lower tax rate than his secretary, I bet you do also. You just want the rest of US to cover for you, like John Kerry, Tom Daschle, Charlie Rangel and other hypocrites of the left do.
Liberalism is "Do as I say, not as I do".

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

All this bullshit from the guy who owns two houses and has a business that he uses to cheat on paying taxes. He votes Socialists but then demand all the rest of US to pay for his tax evasion. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Yeah, I pay more money now because I have that side business than I would pay if I didn't.

Now, I could really cheat on my taxes if I wanted to. It's a mostly cash business, all I'd have to do is 'forget' to tell the IRS how much I actually made and pay for all my groceries in cash.

And I know my two houses make you jealous when all you have is that Double Wide, Cleetus.

No Joe your 2 two hypocritical houses don't make me jealous as any day, one of those great Chicagoans might just show up at your door, demanding that you give up your house in the name of liberal FAIRNESS. Will you acquiesce their demands or stand your ground?

 

[JoeB131]

Joe you are like Warren Buffet, says one thing out of your mouth , but it really comes out of your ass(so full of shit). Warren Buffet pays lower tax rate than his secretary, I bet you do also. You just want the rest of US to cover for you, like John Kerry, Tom Daschle, Charlie Rangel and other hypocrites of the left do.
Liberalism is "Do as I say, not as I do".

I think you are confused by the context of Warren's statement. Warren pays a lower rate because regressive middle class taxes like medicare and social security don't apply to him at his tax bracket.

I frankly think we ought to do taxes based on politics. You pay for what you support. You guys will pay a much higher tax rate supporting war and corproate welfare than I'd ever pay supporting a social safety net.