Why Liberals hate Corporations......

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So, let's bring down the wages of America to Mexico,

we want wages high which will happen if Trump can ship 30 million illegals home Do you understand?

It would be more cost effective, and efficient to put those who hire illegals behind bars, as in the Capitalists you admire so much.

No jobs, and they won't come.

its far more peaceful and civilized to build a wall. The liberal solution is always state violence!!

How is it violent to put people behind bars for hiring illegals?

putting people in jail is a violent act!! 1+1=2

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why do we tolerate Capitalists outsourcing jobs?
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if they don't stay competitive they will go bankrupt and out nation will collapse. Do you understand?

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.

Instead, the Capitalist scums are helping to build up a hostile China, at our expense.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Union membership went down, and wages went down too.

yes liberal unions shipped jobs off shore then they had to get new jobs here at far lower wages competiing against 30 million liberal illegals!! Don't you love liberals?

If Union membership went down, and wages went down, then why are EVEN MORE jobs being outsourced, and EVEN MORE Illegal immigrants being insourced?

Maybe because you've been fed a bunch of Capitalist BS.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.
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if that was true we could just pass a law that all workers get $100k a year. Problem is that drives up prices so no net gain is possible that way. Do you understand?

 

[RodISHI]

what you posted is 180 degrees in opposition to the truth.

well then you must have at least one good example of where the truth was mistaken?
You are afraid to present even one example?

Unions gave workers the right to collective bargaining. A fair shake. University NSA created the eight hour work day, the five day week and the weekend. Unions fought against child labor (talk about exploitation).

In my vast professional experience as Resident Engineer, union workers produced a product of superior quality compared to non union workers who were not adequately trained through apprenticeship programs.

Your claim,of violence is marginal, especially when the history of Homestead, PA and Flint, MI are thrown into the balance.

Union jobs, steelworkers right here in the Pittsburgh area where I live were shipped along with the mills themselves to Asia and Latin America.

You provided nothing of fact, merely conjecture.

But you're set in your ways and attitude. Nothing I can say will persuade you of anything true or different.

Collective bargaining did many good things but then many became bullish, clicks of good ole boys & girls with bully lawyers & such, and full of arrogance, that did damaged the unions as a whole. Just like now with public employees unions where people are guaranteed a job somewhere in the bureaucratic system making more than the average taxpayer.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

why are EVEN MORE jobs being outsourced, and EVEN MORE Illegal immigrants being insourced?
.

i see no evidence of that!! Trump wants to end corporate tax so 10 million jobs will come back and kick 30 million illegals out to open up 30 million jobs here and bid up wages. Now do you understand?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.
.

if that was true we could just pass a law that all workers get $100k a year. Problem is that drives up prices so no net gain is possible that way. Do you understand?

Productivity is up, wages are down, union membership is down, so why are EVEN MORE jobs being outsourced, and illegals being insourced?

Because greedy Capitalist scums are a problem, not the solution.

They care not about our nation, but about how they can gouge us more.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

why are EVEN MORE jobs being outsourced, and EVEN MORE Illegal immigrants being insourced?
.

i see no evidence of that!! Trump wants to end corporate tax so 10 million jobs will come back and kick 30 million illegals out to open up 30 million jobs here and bid up wages. Now do you understand?

Ending Corporate tax won't bring back 10 million jobs.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Why do we tolerate Capitalists outsourcing jobs?
.

if they don't stay competitive they will go bankrupt and out nation will collapse. Do you understand?

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.

Instead, the Capitalist scums are helping to build up a hostile China, at our expense.

at our expense?? consumers here love to increase their standard of living by buying the low cost goods from China.

Also, turning China to Republican capitalism was the greatest foreign policy success of the 20th Century!! NoW they are friendly not a enemy of 1.2 billion. Do you understand?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

why are EVEN MORE jobs being outsourced, and EVEN MORE Illegal immigrants being insourced?
.

i see no evidence of that!! Trump wants to end corporate tax so 10 million jobs will come back and kick 30 million illegals out to open up 30 million jobs here and bid up wages. Now do you understand?

Ending Corporate tax won't bring back 10 million jobs.

wrong, ending highest corporate tax in world will remove much of the need to off-shore our jobs.
making unions illegal would help, the wall would help and ending the liberal war on our families schools religions would help too. Now do you understand?

 

[jillian]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America?

Liberals seem to view corporations as some living being that makes money at the expense of other people.

A large company like, say, IBM, is comprised of, first and foremost, of a bunch of employees. Some of them make a lot of money and some make less, based on a free market determination of their value. The CEO makes more than the guy sweeping the halls at night. But, the guy who sweeps the floors is “profiting” from IBM’s success and would suffer by the failure many liberals would wish upon it (by losing his job). And, today, the floor sweeper is getting very generous benefits, including healthcare (benefits he will soon lose under Obamacare – more on that in my next blog entry).

IBM is owned by public shareholders, which are primarily large mutual funds, whose underlying shareholders (through IRAs, 401(k)’s, and pension funds, but often directly as well) are individuals, increasingly middle class individuals. So, when IBM does well and their stock price goes up, middle class shareholders do well.

So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

no one "hates" corporations. they simply shouldn't make unfettered profits while screwing workers, consumers and the environment.

you're welcome

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America?

Liberals seem to view corporations as some living being that makes money at the expense of other people.

A large company like, say, IBM, is comprised of, first and foremost, of a bunch of employees. Some of them make a lot of money and some make less, based on a free market determination of their value. The CEO makes more than the guy sweeping the halls at night. But, the guy who sweeps the floors is “profiting” from IBM’s success and would suffer by the failure many liberals would wish upon it (by losing his job). And, today, the floor sweeper is getting very generous benefits, including healthcare (benefits he will soon lose under Obamacare – more on that in my next blog entry).

IBM is owned by public shareholders, which are primarily large mutual funds, whose underlying shareholders (through IRAs, 401(k)’s, and pension funds, but often directly as well) are individuals, increasingly middle class individuals. So, when IBM does well and their stock price goes up, middle class shareholders do well.

So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

no one "hates" corporations. they simply shouldn't make unfettered profits while screwing workers, consumers and the environment.

you're welcome

unfettered profits??? Our country is very very worried that they will even be able to compete in the newly globalized world!! We pray for profits and the prosperity of our nation in this new scary world!!

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why do we tolerate Capitalists outsourcing jobs?
.

if they don't stay competitive they will go bankrupt and out nation will collapse. Do you understand?

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.

Instead, the Capitalist scums are helping to build up a hostile China, at our expense.

at our expense?? consumers here love to increase their standard of living by buying the low cost goods from China.

Also, turning China to Republican capitalism was the greatest foreign policy success of the 20th Century!! NoW they are friendly not a enemy of 1.2 billion. Do you understand?

What increase in standard of living?

Real hourly, and weekly wages are down.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

why are EVEN MORE jobs being outsourced, and EVEN MORE Illegal immigrants being insourced?
.

i see no evidence of that!! Trump wants to end corporate tax so 10 million jobs will come back and kick 30 million illegals out to open up 30 million jobs here and bid up wages. Now do you understand?

Ending Corporate tax won't bring back 10 million jobs.

wrong, ending highest corporate tax in world will remove much of the need to off-shore our jobs.
making unions illegal would help, the wall would help and ending the liberal war on our families schools religions would help too. Now do you understand?

Corporate taxes are counterproductive, but abolishing them won't bring back 10 million jobs.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Why do we tolerate Capitalists outsourcing jobs?
.

if they don't stay competitive they will go bankrupt and out nation will collapse. Do you understand?

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.

Instead, the Capitalist scums are helping to build up a hostile China, at our expense.

at our expense?? consumers here love to increase their standard of living by buying the low cost goods from China.

Also, turning China to Republican capitalism was the greatest foreign policy success of the 20th Century!! NoW they are friendly not a enemy of 1.2 billion. Do you understand?

What increase in standard of living?

Real hourly, and weekly wages are down.

no idea what point you are trying to make. If you know please tell us.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

why are EVEN MORE jobs being outsourced, and EVEN MORE Illegal immigrants being insourced?
.

i see no evidence of that!! Trump wants to end corporate tax so 10 million jobs will come back and kick 30 million illegals out to open up 30 million jobs here and bid up wages. Now do you understand?

Ending Corporate tax won't bring back 10 million jobs.

wrong, ending highest corporate tax in world will remove much of the need to off-shore our jobs.
making unions illegal would help, the wall would help and ending the liberal war on our families schools religions would help too. Now do you understand?

Corporate taxes are counterproductive, but abolishing them won't bring back 10 million jobs.

10,000 corporations moved to Ireland when it dropped its corporate tax to 12%.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why do we tolerate Capitalists outsourcing jobs?
.

if they don't stay competitive they will go bankrupt and out nation will collapse. Do you understand?

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.

Instead, the Capitalist scums are helping to build up a hostile China, at our expense.

at our expense?? consumers here love to increase their standard of living by buying the low cost goods from China.

Also, turning China to Republican capitalism was the greatest foreign policy success of the 20th Century!! NoW they are friendly not a enemy of 1.2 billion. Do you understand?

What increase in standard of living?

Real hourly, and weekly wages are down.

no idea what point you are trying to make. If you know please tell us.

You claimed that our standard of living went up, yet real weekly, and hourly wages tell a different story.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

if they don't stay competitive they will go bankrupt and out nation will collapse. Do you understand?

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.

Instead, the Capitalist scums are helping to build up a hostile China, at our expense.

at our expense?? consumers here love to increase their standard of living by buying the low cost goods from China.

Also, turning China to Republican capitalism was the greatest foreign policy success of the 20th Century!! NoW they are friendly not a enemy of 1.2 billion. Do you understand?

What increase in standard of living?

Real hourly, and weekly wages are down.

no idea what point you are trying to make. If you know please tell us.

You claimed that our standard of living went up, yet real weekly, and hourly wages tell a different story.

what?? all agree that real wages have been flat from at least when Obama took office!!

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

why are EVEN MORE jobs being outsourced, and EVEN MORE Illegal immigrants being insourced?
.

i see no evidence of that!! Trump wants to end corporate tax so 10 million jobs will come back and kick 30 million illegals out to open up 30 million jobs here and bid up wages. Now do you understand?

Ending Corporate tax won't bring back 10 million jobs.

wrong, ending highest corporate tax in world will remove much of the need to off-shore our jobs.
making unions illegal would help, the wall would help and ending the liberal war on our families schools religions would help too. Now do you understand?

Corporate taxes are counterproductive, but abolishing them won't bring back 10 million jobs.

10,000 corporations moved to Ireland when it dropped its corporate tax to 12%.

I just said Corporate taxes are counterproductive.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

If workers have higher wages, they'll spend more, and everyone fares better.

Instead, the Capitalist scums are helping to build up a hostile China, at our expense.

at our expense?? consumers here love to increase their standard of living by buying the low cost goods from China.

Also, turning China to Republican capitalism was the greatest foreign policy success of the 20th Century!! NoW they are friendly not a enemy of 1.2 billion. Do you understand?

What increase in standard of living?

Real hourly, and weekly wages are down.

no idea what point you are trying to make. If you know please tell us.

You claimed that our standard of living went up, yet real weekly, and hourly wages tell a different story.

what?? all agree that real wages have been flat from at least when Obama took office!!

I don't support Obama, or W Bush, but the recession came about under W Bush, from the housing bubble, hint hint that's Capitalism once again.