Why Liberals hate Corporations......

[JoeB131]

No Joe your 2 two hypocritical houses don't make me jealous as any day, one of those great Chicagoans might just show up at your door, demanding that you give up your house in the name of liberal FAIRNESS. Will you acquiesce their demands or stand your ground?

Considering people in Chicago can't get out where I'm at all that easily, it's not high on my worry list.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

No Joe your 2 two hypocritical houses don't make me jealous as any day, one of those great Chicagoans might just show up at your door, demanding that you give up your house in the name of liberal FAIRNESS. Will you acquiesce their demands or stand your ground?

Considering people in Chicago can't get out where I'm at all that easily, it's not high on my worry list.

Same thing liberals were saying while riding the BART system in San Fran. Joe you are too funny in your hypocrisy.
BEATINGS AND ROBBERIES: California BART Passengers Get What They Voted For

 

[JoeB131]

Same thing liberals were saying while riding the BART system in San Fran. Joe you are too funny in your hypocrisy.

so yes, you underfund a system, you are going to have problems... thanks for playing.

Not to worry, I'm sure your safe in your double wide with your bible and you gun.

 

[danielpalos]

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

If the insurance companies were regulated more tightly employers could easily pay their employees more. It is not the pay it is all the extra cost that go along with raising the pay.

more socialism to reduce costs? laissez-fair all the way, right wingers. cash counts, not accounting gimmicks.

 

[danielpalos]

For the same but opposite reason the right hates the poor.

This is one very stupid post. NOBODY on the right hates the poor and anyone who really believes that is an idiot. An ideological idiot.

the same, but opposite is true of the left; we don't hate corporations any more than the right hates on the poor.

The rhetoric from many on the Left indicates otherwise.

the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage so the poor can afford the things they need.

$15/hour will cause McDonalds to buy robots not hire workers thus human workers will be able to afford less.!!

The dollar menu will not double, and robotics are capital intensive to start up, and that requires capital intensive labor.

 

[danielpalos]

Corporate taxes are not counter productive; work taxes are counter productive.

 

[hunarcy]

"Progressives", not liberals.

They don't like not being in total control.
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I think you're using Progressive incorrectly. A Progressive is an enlightened person who wants to improve our society and make the world a better place. You meant Leftist.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I've got to run but we can continue your lesson tomorrow if you'd like. It is my honor and duty to teach you as much as I can. I hope you will continue to be a very willing student. Thank you

It's you who needs a lesson, you support a system where Capitalism comes first, even if it's at the expense of the masses, and that's a problem.

Chyna just switched to Republican capitalism and the masses have gone from slowly starving to death to getting rich. How do you get everything backwardswith such great consistency?

To call China Republican Capitalism, is truly ridiculous.

I talked to a Chinese guy a few years back, and he told me in China they had men sweeping the streets with brooms, not because they can't afford otherwise, but to give them jobs.

China's economy is somewhat planned, and that's more like Fascism, rather than Capitalism.

Here are 3 books with which to begin your education on China:

"Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"


"How China Became Capitalist"

In his new book titled Markets over Mao: The rise of private businesses in China, Lardy argues that even though SOEs still enjoy monopoly positions in some key sectors in China, such as energy and telecommunications, their role in the overall economy has diminished significantly over the years. Here are some of the facts he presents to back his thesis: in 2011, China’s state-controlled firms only accounted for about a quarter of the country’s industrial output; and their share in exports has dropped to about 11% today; in 2012, state firms were only responsible for about one-tenth of fixed investment in manufacturing. And in terms of employment, SOEs employed about 13% of China’s labor force in 2011, a dramatic decline compared with the 60% figure recorded in 1999.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I think you're using Progressive incorrectly. A Progressive is an enlightened person who wants to improve our society and make the world a better place. You meant Leftist.

Conservatives and libertarians obviously think of themselves that way too.

Leftists progressives liberals socialists Nazis kings communists are all the same in that they favor big govt violence to make the world a better place. None are compatible with our Constitution which is designed to give us freedom from big liberal govt. Do you understand?

 

[danielpalos]

I think you're using Progressive incorrectly. A Progressive is an enlightened person who wants to improve our society and make the world a better place. You meant Leftist.

Conservatives and libertarians obviously think of themselves that way too.

Leftists progressives liberals socialists Nazis kings communists are all the same in that they favor big govt violence to make the world a better place. None are compatible with our Constitution which is designed to give us freedom from big liberal govt. Do you understand?

let's end our war on drugs, right wingers. otherwise; y'all are all talk and no action.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I've got to run but we can continue your lesson tomorrow if you'd like. It is my honor and duty to teach you as much as I can. I hope you will continue to be a very willing student. Thank you

It's you who needs a lesson, you support a system where Capitalism comes first, even if it's at the expense of the masses, and that's a problem.

Chyna just switched to Republican capitalism and the masses have gone from slowly starving to death to getting rich. How do you get everything backwardswith such great consistency?

To call China Republican Capitalism, is truly ridiculous.

I talked to a Chinese guy a few years back, and he told me in China they had men sweeping the streets with brooms, not because they can't afford otherwise, but to give them jobs.

China's economy is somewhat planned, and that's more like Fascism, rather than Capitalism.

Here are 3 books with which to begin your education on China:

"Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"


"How China Became Capitalist"

In his new book titled Markets over Mao: The rise of private businesses in China, Lardy argues that even though SOEs still enjoy monopoly positions in some key sectors in China, such as energy and telecommunications, their role in the overall economy has diminished significantly over the years. Here are some of the facts he presents to back his thesis: in 2011, China’s state-controlled firms only accounted for about a quarter of the country’s industrial output; and their share in exports has dropped to about 11% today; in 2012, state firms were only responsible for about one-tenth of fixed investment in manufacturing. And in terms of employment, SOEs employed about 13% of China’s labor force in 2011, a dramatic decline compared with the 60% figure recorded in 1999.

China's not the mega-Capitalist country you're painting it as.

Why the Chinese government plays a critical role in the national economy? - ChinaAbout.net

the Chinese government is still playing a critical role in the national economy. And some of the reasons are listed below:


Firstly, while the activities of plan economy are largely reduced and controlled, the Chinese government still makes long-term plans to shape the national economic and social development in term of its five year economy plans. For example, most recent Twelfth Five-Year Plan was approved by the National People’s Congress on March 14, 2011 setting the economic directions of addressing rising inequality and making an environment for more sustainable growth by prioritizing more equitable wealth distribution, increased domestic consumption, and improved social infrastructure and social safety nets. The five-year-plan also come with detailed targets such as:

1. Urbanization rate reaching 51.5%,
2. Value-added output of emerging strategic industries accounting for 8% of GDP
3. Length of high-speed railways reaching 45,000 km
4. Length of highway networks reaching 83,000 km.

And one of the major economy planning activities that the government still insists on controlling is the construction of infrastructure such as roads, bridges, tunnels, water supply, sewers, electrical grids and etc. And the control of infrastructure is to ensure the effective and efficient implementation of the government plans. For example, the infrastructure construction and the industrial structure readjustment is a strategic direction of the government’s plan of “Development of the Western Part of China”.

Secondly, the Chinese government tends to have direct control of the key resources and industries by limiting the entry of the private or foreign enterprises.

Thirdly, without well developed economy regulation and national law system, the government needs to monitor the economy closely and even make interventions in the economy life in certain situations.

China's 12 biggest companies are all government-owned

But dig a little deeper, and China’s rise begins to look less imposing. First, the top 12 Chinese companies are all state-owned. They include massive banks and oil companies that the central government controls through the State-Owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the ruling State Council (SASAC), which appoints CEOs and makes decisions on large investments. Of the 98 Chinese companies on the list, only 22 are private.




With the government as their largest shareholders, China’s state-owned enterprises (SOE) enjoy massive state support, which fosters growth and insulates them from competition. “What would the chairman of China’s largest bank do if the chairman of PetroChina asked for a loan?” wrote Carl Walter and Fraser Howie in their history of China’s markets, Red Capitalism. “He would say, 'Thank you very much, how much, and for how long?'” He'd probably do so from one of the extravagantly designed SOE-headquarters, many with foreign architects, that line two major thoroughfares in Beijing.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

the Chinese government is still playing a critical role in the national economy. And some of the reasons are listed below:
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so what?????So does our govt!! Ever heard of Obamacare( 20% of our economy) , do you know we have highest business tax in world, and most onerous regulations??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

China’s state-owned enterprises (SOE) enjoy massive state support, which fosters growth and insulates them from competition..

if socialism led to growth 120 million would not have starved to death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In his new book titled Markets over Mao: The rise of private businesses in China, Lardy argues that even though SOEs still enjoy monopoly positions in some key sectors in China, such as energy and telecommunications, their role in the overall economy has diminished significantly over the years. Here are some of the facts he presents to back his thesis: in 2011, China’s state-controlled firms only accounted for about a quarter of the country’s industrial output; and their share in exports has dropped to about 11% today; in 2012, state firms were only responsible for about one-tenth of fixed investment in manufacturing. And in terms of employment, SOEs employed about 13% of China’s labor force in 2011, a dramatic decline compared with the 60% figure recorded in 1999.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

the Chinese government is still playing a critical role in the national economy. And some of the reasons are listed below:
.

so what?????So does our govt!! Ever heard of Obamacare( 20% of our economy) , do you know we have highest business tax in world, and most onerous regulations??

How does Obamacare make up 20% of our GDP?

I think you mean total healthcare spending.

The U.S.A spends the most in the World for healthcare when you account for both out of pocket, and government expenses on healthcare.

How is this making sense?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

China’s state-owned enterprises (SOE) enjoy massive state support, which fosters growth and insulates them from competition..

if socialism led to growth 120 million would not have starved to death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In his new book titled Markets over Mao: The rise of private businesses in China, Lardy argues that even though SOEs still enjoy monopoly positions in some key sectors in China, such as energy and telecommunications, their role in the overall economy has diminished significantly over the years. Here are some of the facts he presents to back his thesis: in 2011, China’s state-controlled firms only accounted for about a quarter of the country’s industrial output; and their share in exports has dropped to about 11% today; in 2012, state firms were only responsible for about one-tenth of fixed investment in manufacturing. And in terms of employment, SOEs employed about 13% of China’s labor force in 2011, a dramatic decline compared with the 60% figure recorded in 1999.

I'm not advocating for Communism, but rather a hybrid system called Fascism.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I'm not advocating for Communism, but rather a hybrid system called Fascism.

Hitler was a Fascist!! Have you read Liberal Fascism???

 

[danielpalos]

I've got to run but we can continue your lesson tomorrow if you'd like. It is my honor and duty to teach you as much as I can. I hope you will continue to be a very willing student. Thank you

It's you who needs a lesson, you support a system where Capitalism comes first, even if it's at the expense of the masses, and that's a problem.

Chyna just switched to Republican capitalism and the masses have gone from slowly starving to death to getting rich. How do you get everything backwardswith such great consistency?

To call China Republican Capitalism, is truly ridiculous.

I talked to a Chinese guy a few years back, and he told me in China they had men sweeping the streets with brooms, not because they can't afford otherwise, but to give them jobs.

China's economy is somewhat planned, and that's more like Fascism, rather than Capitalism.

Here are 3 books with which to begin your education on China:

"Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"


"How China Became Capitalist"

In his new book titled Markets over Mao: The rise of private businesses in China, Lardy argues that even though SOEs still enjoy monopoly positions in some key sectors in China, such as energy and telecommunications, their role in the overall economy has diminished significantly over the years. Here are some of the facts he presents to back his thesis: in 2011, China’s state-controlled firms only accounted for about a quarter of the country’s industrial output; and their share in exports has dropped to about 11% today; in 2012, state firms were only responsible for about one-tenth of fixed investment in manufacturing. And in terms of employment, SOEs employed about 13% of China’s labor force in 2011, a dramatic decline compared with the 60% figure recorded in 1999.

China's not the mega-Capitalist country you're painting it as.

Why the Chinese government plays a critical role in the national economy? - ChinaAbout.net

the Chinese government is still playing a critical role in the national economy. And some of the reasons are listed below:


Firstly, while the activities of plan economy are largely reduced and controlled, the Chinese government still makes long-term plans to shape the national economic and social development in term of its five year economy plans. For example, most recent Twelfth Five-Year Plan was approved by the National People’s Congress on March 14, 2011 setting the economic directions of addressing rising inequality and making an environment for more sustainable growth by prioritizing more equitable wealth distribution, increased domestic consumption, and improved social infrastructure and social safety nets. The five-year-plan also come with detailed targets such as:

1. Urbanization rate reaching 51.5%,
2. Value-added output of emerging strategic industries accounting for 8% of GDP
3. Length of high-speed railways reaching 45,000 km
4. Length of highway networks reaching 83,000 km.

And one of the major economy planning activities that the government still insists on controlling is the construction of infrastructure such as roads, bridges, tunnels, water supply, sewers, electrical grids and etc. And the control of infrastructure is to ensure the effective and efficient implementation of the government plans. For example, the infrastructure construction and the industrial structure readjustment is a strategic direction of the government’s plan of “Development of the Western Part of China”.

Secondly, the Chinese government tends to have direct control of the key resources and industries by limiting the entry of the private or foreign enterprises.

Thirdly, without well developed economy regulation and national law system, the government needs to monitor the economy closely and even make interventions in the economy life in certain situations.

China's 12 biggest companies are all government-owned

But dig a little deeper, and China’s rise begins to look less imposing. First, the top 12 Chinese companies are all state-owned. They include massive banks and oil companies that the central government controls through the State-Owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the ruling State Council (SASAC), which appoints CEOs and makes decisions on large investments. Of the 98 Chinese companies on the list, only 22 are private.




With the government as their largest shareholders, China’s state-owned enterprises (SOE) enjoy massive state support, which fosters growth and insulates them from competition. “What would the chairman of China’s largest bank do if the chairman of PetroChina asked for a loan?” wrote Carl Walter and Fraser Howie in their history of China’s markets, Red Capitalism. “He would say, 'Thank you very much, how much, and for how long?'” He'd probably do so from one of the extravagantly designed SOE-headquarters, many with foreign architects, that line two major thoroughfares in Beijing.

Ed is so special in his pleading regarding his claim to Chinese capitalism. They transitioned from a command economy to a mixed-market economy, that is all.

 

[Votto]

Why Do Liberals Hate Corporate America?

Liberals seem to view corporations as some living being that makes money at the expense of other people.

A large company like, say, IBM, is comprised of, first and foremost, of a bunch of employees. Some of them make a lot of money and some make less, based on a free market determination of their value. The CEO makes more than the guy sweeping the halls at night. But, the guy who sweeps the floors is “profiting” from IBM’s success and would suffer by the failure many liberals would wish upon it (by losing his job). And, today, the floor sweeper is getting very generous benefits, including healthcare (benefits he will soon lose under Obamacare – more on that in my next blog entry).

IBM is owned by public shareholders, which are primarily large mutual funds, whose underlying shareholders (through IRAs, 401(k)’s, and pension funds, but often directly as well) are individuals, increasingly middle class individuals. So, when IBM does well and their stock price goes up, middle class shareholders do well.

So why do liberals hate corporations, yet say nothing about the WEALTH of liberal professional athletes and liberal Hollywood elites?

You do realize the corporations are a government construct, right?

You also realize that the bigger they get the closer they resemble mini governments, right?

You also realize that England was known for conquering entire countries with a corporation, whom had their own armies, right?

You do realize that the Boston Tea Party was not about higher taxes, right? In fact, once the East Indies Corp. created a monopoly on tea the prices actually came down. No, the colonists simply did not want to be owned by an English monopoly.

The left rails about the evils of corporations and the right rails about the evils of government.

They are both right as well as both being wrong.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

the Chinese government is still playing a critical role in the national economy. And some of the reasons are listed below:
.

so what?????So does our govt!! Ever heard of Obamacare( 20% of our economy) , do you know we have highest business tax in world, and most onerous regulations??

How does Obamacare make up 20% of our GDP?

I think you mean total healthcare spending.

The U.S.A spends the most in the World for healthcare when you account for both out of pocket, and government expenses on healthcare.

How is this making sense?

our govt and Chinese govt is very involved in economy. And????????

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I'm not advocating for Communism, but rather a hybrid system called Fascism.

Hitler was a Fascist!! Have you read Liberal Fascism???

The Capitalist U.S.A has killed 20 - 30 million since WW2 has ended, which is about the number Hitler killed.