Why Islam wants to kill all the Jews.

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Why Islam wants to kill all the Jews. I borrow from the teachings of al-Aziz Qari, esteemed mullah of Islam. His teaching of the end of the Jews and Christians is quite common in this day and age.

Two groups — the Jews and the Christians — are the main elements constituting the Camp of Kufr [unbelief] and will continue to be its two foundations until Allah allows their downfall and annihilation at the end of days......

al—Aziz Qari repeats the hadith that says Jesus will return and break the cross:

When the Prophet Muhammad was sent out, the Camp of Kufr declared war on his message. At the center of this war were these groups, particularly the Jews. These two groups will continue to serve as the grindstones of the conflict and the war between belief and Kufr until eternity comes... The conflict will end when Jesus the son of Mary, peace be upon him, arrives to break the cross, and wipes it off the face of the earth, and kills the blind [false] Messiah, the leader of the Jews and the tyrant whom they await. Until that day, the conflict between us, the Muslims, and the Jews and Christians will continue, and it will ebb and flow, one day ours, another day theirs....


Contrary to the mullah's revisionist assertion that the Camp of Kufr (disbelief = Jews and Christians) declared war on Islam, it is more accurate historically to say that when 'Muhammad was sent out' (by Allah) on his conquests in and around Medina and Mecca and even northward, he declared war on surrounding tribes of polytheists and all the way to the Byzantine Empire, which for the Prophet represented Christianity. Marching northward with armies (not a band of preachers only), Muhammad launched his own Crusades hundreds of years before Europeans launched theirs.


al—Aziz Qari distorts Christian eschatology (study of the end times). According to him, Jesus will return, but in favor of the Muslims, arriving to symbolically break the cross, in order to show how wrong Christians are. As we noted earlier, though, Muhammad merely changes, without evidence, Christian teaching to suit his own religion. But it is the Christians who get to read the source documents—the New Testament—and interpret them; Muhammad did not know them, but picked up what little he knew from fragments of tales and apocrypha that circulated around the trade routes of Arabia. Therefore, later Muslims do not have carte blanche to distort Christian teaching, either.


Be that as it may, al—Aziz Qari says that Islam will dominate the world, if only when Jesus returns. Until then, conflict and war between the Camp of Belief (Islam) and the Camp of Unbelief (Christianity and Judaism) will never cease. Clearly, this sheikh's rant and distortions are inspired by early Islam.


Finally, in a sermon at the Old Mosque in al—Jumaa, Saudi Arabia, Mullah Abd al—Majid ibn al—Aziz al—Deheishi predicts victory for Islam as surely as the sun rises:

He who doubts the victory of the [Islamic] religion is like he who despairs that the sun will not rise after darkness falls...


Taking his inspiration from early Islam, al—Aziz al—Deheishi cites as proof for his prediction a hadith that says the rocks and trees will cry out that there are Jews hiding behind them, and then will all the Jews be killed, and finally Islam will be victorious (in bold print, below):

For the contemptible Jews ... is foreseen an encounter with the nation of Muhammad, as it is said: 'The Day of Judgment will come, when the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them until the Jew hides behind the stone and the tree. The stone and the tree will say: O Muslim, O worshipper of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him' — except for the gharqad (thorny bush) tree, which is the tree of the Jews. These texts are certain proof of the victory of the religion of Islam.


From all of these quotations and from the commentary on the three Quranic verses, it is evident that terrorists, extremists and even moderates believe that Islam should be spreading not only in the Greater Middle East, but all over the world. This has been seen in the comment of moderate Yusuf Ali that the expansion of Islam amounts to God's endorsement (see 48:28, above), and in the claim of intellectual 'activist' Qutb that the world must abandon western Christianity (embodied in the US) and eastern Christianity (embodied in the Russia).

Islam must tackle materialistic America and Russia because Christianity is too weak to do so.
 
INDEED! This teaching is what motivated Al Quaida and the wanton slaughter of Christians and Jews on 9/11.
 
A warning to all. Mohammed wants to slit your throat.
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A warning to all: Mohammed (mhbeihf) taught his followers that they are to lie in any way necessary to advance Islam. It is clear to all Islamic satanic followers that it is OK to kill Christians and Jews because they are impure. All of the Christians and Jews are to be beheaded when Islam tries to take over the world. That is their instruction.

The Bible in Revelation predicts a tremendous slaughter of the Christians in the End Times of Revelation. They will be crying out to God, "How long will you fail to avenge our deaths on them that dwell on the Earth?"

The Bible points out that all the dead Christians will have been beheaded. There is no accident that these predictions are so graphic and precise. There is no accident that the Bible points out the countries that will be allied in the attack on the newly reborn Israel and that all of them will be followers of the False Prophet. There is no accident that after they try to slaughter the Christians and Jews and invade Israel with an army of 200,000,000!

Jesus is going to turn them into hamburger. Read about it in Revelation. He doesn't like those satanic sh!theads and He is going to kill them all. Be ready, because this attempt to advance Islam is coming soon. According to the Bible it will happen within one generation of the rebirth of Israel. Israel was reborn in 1948, so the time is running out.

IF you are like most non believers and absolutely refuse to accept God on his terms, you will be accepting Satan and his False Prophet on their ugly terms. If they think that you are a Christian you will die a most hideous death on their blood sacrifice altars to Allah (Baal in the Old Testament) just like we have seen in the thousands of Al Jazeera beheading videos.

It is no accident that the ritual is always performed in the same manner with the same ritual chants and hideously slow beheading of the screaming, gurgling victim.
 
Why Islam wants to kill all the Jews. I borrow from the teachings of al-Aziz Qari, esteemed mullah of Islam. His teaching of the end of the Jews and Christians is quite common in this day and age.

Two groups — the Jews and the Christians — are the main elements constituting the Camp of Kufr [unbelief] and will continue to be its two foundations until Allah allows their downfall and annihilation at the end of days......

al—Aziz Qari repeats the hadith that says Jesus will return and break the cross:

When the Prophet Muhammad was sent out, the Camp of Kufr declared war on his message. At the center of this war were these groups, particularly the Jews. These two groups will continue to serve as the grindstones of the conflict and the war between belief and Kufr until eternity comes... The conflict will end when Jesus the son of Mary, peace be upon him, arrives to break the cross, and wipes it off the face of the earth, and kills the blind [false] Messiah, the leader of the Jews and the tyrant whom they await. Until that day, the conflict between us, the Muslims, and the Jews and Christians will continue, and it will ebb and flow, one day ours, another day theirs....


Contrary to the mullah's revisionist assertion that the Camp of Kufr (disbelief = Jews and Christians) declared war on Islam, it is more accurate historically to say that when 'Muhammad was sent out' (by Allah) on his conquests in and around Medina and Mecca and even northward, he declared war on surrounding tribes of polytheists and all the way to the Byzantine Empire, which for the Prophet represented Christianity. Marching northward with armies (not a band of preachers only), Muhammad launched his own Crusades hundreds of years before Europeans launched theirs.


al—Aziz Qari distorts Christian eschatology (study of the end times). According to him, Jesus will return, but in favor of the Muslims, arriving to symbolically break the cross, in order to show how wrong Christians are. As we noted earlier, though, Muhammad merely changes, without evidence, Christian teaching to suit his own religion. But it is the Christians who get to read the source documents—the New Testament—and interpret them; Muhammad did not know them, but picked up what little he knew from fragments of tales and apocrypha that circulated around the trade routes of Arabia. Therefore, later Muslims do not have carte blanche to distort Christian teaching, either.


Be that as it may, al—Aziz Qari says that Islam will dominate the world, if only when Jesus returns. Until then, conflict and war between the Camp of Belief (Islam) and the Camp of Unbelief (Christianity and Judaism) will never cease. Clearly, this sheikh's rant and distortions are inspired by early Islam.


Finally, in a sermon at the Old Mosque in al—Jumaa, Saudi Arabia, Mullah Abd al—Majid ibn al—Aziz al—Deheishi predicts victory for Islam as surely as the sun rises:

He who doubts the victory of the [Islamic] religion is like he who despairs that the sun will not rise after darkness falls...


Taking his inspiration from early Islam, al—Aziz al—Deheishi cites as proof for his prediction a hadith that says the rocks and trees will cry out that there are Jews hiding behind them, and then will all the Jews be killed, and finally Islam will be victorious (in bold print, below):

For the contemptible Jews ... is foreseen an encounter with the nation of Muhammad, as it is said: 'The Day of Judgment will come, when the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them until the Jew hides behind the stone and the tree. The stone and the tree will say: O Muslim, O worshipper of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him' — except for the gharqad (thorny bush) tree, which is the tree of the Jews. These texts are certain proof of the victory of the religion of Islam.


From all of these quotations and from the commentary on the three Quranic verses, it is evident that terrorists, extremists and even moderates believe that Islam should be spreading not only in the Greater Middle East, but all over the world. This has been seen in the comment of moderate Yusuf Ali that the expansion of Islam amounts to God's endorsement (see 48:28, above), and in the claim of intellectual 'activist' Qutb that the world must abandon western Christianity (embodied in the US) and eastern Christianity (embodied in the Russia).

Islam must tackle materialistic America and Russia because Christianity is too weak to do so.

Have you ever actually spent any time with a Muslim?
 
A warning to all. Mohammed wants to slit your throat.
Quote

A warning to all: Mohammed (mhbeihf) taught his followers that they are to lie in any way necessary to advance Islam. It is clear to all Islamic satanic followers that it is OK to kill Christians and Jews because they are impure. All of the Christians and Jews are to be beheaded when Islam tries to take over the world. That is their instruction.

The Bible in Revelation predicts a tremendous slaughter of the Christians in the End Times of Revelation. They will be crying out to God, "How long will you fail to avenge our deaths on them that dwell on the Earth?"

The Bible points out that all the dead Christians will have been beheaded. There is no accident that these predictions are so graphic and precise. There is no accident that the Bible points out the countries that will be allied in the attack on the newly reborn Israel and that all of them will be followers of the False Prophet. There is no accident that after they try to slaughter the Christians and Jews and invade Israel with an army of 200,000,000!

Jesus is going to turn them into hamburger. Read about it in Revelation. He doesn't like those satanic sh!theads and He is going to kill them all. Be ready, because this attempt to advance Islam is coming soon. According to the Bible it will happen within one generation of the rebirth of Israel. Israel was reborn in 1948, so the time is running out.

IF you are like most non believers and absolutely refuse to accept God on his terms, you will be accepting Satan and his False Prophet on their ugly terms. If they think that you are a Christian you will die a most hideous death on their blood sacrifice altars to Allah (Baal in the Old Testament) just like we have seen in the thousands of Al Jazeera beheading videos.

It is no accident that the ritual is always performed in the same manner with the same ritual chants and hideously slow beheading of the screaming, gurgling victim.

Fundimentalists are all crazy. What's your point? They all take themselves and thier vision of entitlement very loosly guided by the thinest evidense in the religion of thier choosing way too seriously. So you are suggesting what..that we lose one wink of sleep over this crap?
 
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Why Islam wants to kill all the Jews. I borrow from the teachings of al-Aziz Qari, esteemed mullah of Islam. His teaching of the end of the Jews and Christians is quite common in this day and age.

Two groups — the Jews and the Christians — are the main elements constituting the Camp of Kufr [unbelief] and will continue to be its two foundations until Allah allows their downfall and annihilation at the end of days......

al—Aziz Qari repeats the hadith that says Jesus will return and break the cross:

When the Prophet Muhammad was sent out, the Camp of Kufr declared war on his message. At the center of this war were these groups, particularly the Jews. These two groups will continue to serve as the grindstones of the conflict and the war between belief and Kufr until eternity comes... The conflict will end when Jesus the son of Mary, peace be upon him, arrives to break the cross, and wipes it off the face of the earth, and kills the blind [false] Messiah, the leader of the Jews and the tyrant whom they await. Until that day, the conflict between us, the Muslims, and the Jews and Christians will continue, and it will ebb and flow, one day ours, another day theirs....


Contrary to the mullah's revisionist assertion that the Camp of Kufr (disbelief = Jews and Christians) declared war on Islam, it is more accurate historically to say that when 'Muhammad was sent out' (by Allah) on his conquests in and around Medina and Mecca and even northward, he declared war on surrounding tribes of polytheists and all the way to the Byzantine Empire, which for the Prophet represented Christianity. Marching northward with armies (not a band of preachers only), Muhammad launched his own Crusades hundreds of years before Europeans launched theirs.


al—Aziz Qari distorts Christian eschatology (study of the end times). According to him, Jesus will return, but in favor of the Muslims, arriving to symbolically break the cross, in order to show how wrong Christians are. As we noted earlier, though, Muhammad merely changes, without evidence, Christian teaching to suit his own religion. But it is the Christians who get to read the source documents—the New Testament—and interpret them; Muhammad did not know them, but picked up what little he knew from fragments of tales and apocrypha that circulated around the trade routes of Arabia. Therefore, later Muslims do not have carte blanche to distort Christian teaching, either.


Be that as it may, al—Aziz Qari says that Islam will dominate the world, if only when Jesus returns. Until then, conflict and war between the Camp of Belief (Islam) and the Camp of Unbelief (Christianity and Judaism) will never cease. Clearly, this sheikh's rant and distortions are inspired by early Islam.


Finally, in a sermon at the Old Mosque in al—Jumaa, Saudi Arabia, Mullah Abd al—Majid ibn al—Aziz al—Deheishi predicts victory for Islam as surely as the sun rises:

He who doubts the victory of the [Islamic] religion is like he who despairs that the sun will not rise after darkness falls...


Taking his inspiration from early Islam, al—Aziz al—Deheishi cites as proof for his prediction a hadith that says the rocks and trees will cry out that there are Jews hiding behind them, and then will all the Jews be killed, and finally Islam will be victorious (in bold print, below):

For the contemptible Jews ... is foreseen an encounter with the nation of Muhammad, as it is said: 'The Day of Judgment will come, when the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them until the Jew hides behind the stone and the tree. The stone and the tree will say: O Muslim, O worshipper of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him' — except for the gharqad (thorny bush) tree, which is the tree of the Jews. These texts are certain proof of the victory of the religion of Islam.


From all of these quotations and from the commentary on the three Quranic verses, it is evident that terrorists, extremists and even moderates believe that Islam should be spreading not only in the Greater Middle East, but all over the world. This has been seen in the comment of moderate Yusuf Ali that the expansion of Islam amounts to God's endorsement (see 48:28, above), and in the claim of intellectual 'activist' Qutb that the world must abandon western Christianity (embodied in the US) and eastern Christianity (embodied in the Russia).

Islam must tackle materialistic America and Russia because Christianity is too weak to do so.

Have you ever actually spent any time with a Muslim?

Talk about a bore fest. Hell no.
 
As a Christian I'm not worried about Muslims.


I'm 100% unafraid of death. Not even a little afraid.


What do I fear? I fear for those who fail to submit to the Truth of Jesus Christ.


I fear for the health and safety of my family. Although it's in God's hands, this is the weakest area of my faith. I have to be honest.
 
Why Islam wants to kill all the Jews. I borrow from the teachings of al-Aziz Qari, esteemed mullah of Islam. His teaching of the end of the Jews and Christians is quite common in this day and age.

Two groups — the Jews and the Christians — are the main elements constituting the Camp of Kufr [unbelief] and will continue to be its two foundations until Allah allows their downfall and annihilation at the end of days......

al—Aziz Qari repeats the hadith that says Jesus will return and break the cross:

When the Prophet Muhammad was sent out, the Camp of Kufr declared war on his message. At the center of this war were these groups, particularly the Jews. These two groups will continue to serve as the grindstones of the conflict and the war between belief and Kufr until eternity comes... The conflict will end when Jesus the son of Mary, peace be upon him, arrives to break the cross, and wipes it off the face of the earth, and kills the blind [false] Messiah, the leader of the Jews and the tyrant whom they await. Until that day, the conflict between us, the Muslims, and the Jews and Christians will continue, and it will ebb and flow, one day ours, another day theirs....


Contrary to the mullah's revisionist assertion that the Camp of Kufr (disbelief = Jews and Christians) declared war on Islam, it is more accurate historically to say that when 'Muhammad was sent out' (by Allah) on his conquests in and around Medina and Mecca and even northward, he declared war on surrounding tribes of polytheists and all the way to the Byzantine Empire, which for the Prophet represented Christianity. Marching northward with armies (not a band of preachers only), Muhammad launched his own Crusades hundreds of years before Europeans launched theirs.


al—Aziz Qari distorts Christian eschatology (study of the end times). According to him, Jesus will return, but in favor of the Muslims, arriving to symbolically break the cross, in order to show how wrong Christians are. As we noted earlier, though, Muhammad merely changes, without evidence, Christian teaching to suit his own religion. But it is the Christians who get to read the source documents—the New Testament—and interpret them; Muhammad did not know them, but picked up what little he knew from fragments of tales and apocrypha that circulated around the trade routes of Arabia. Therefore, later Muslims do not have carte blanche to distort Christian teaching, either.


Be that as it may, al—Aziz Qari says that Islam will dominate the world, if only when Jesus returns. Until then, conflict and war between the Camp of Belief (Islam) and the Camp of Unbelief (Christianity and Judaism) will never cease. Clearly, this sheikh's rant and distortions are inspired by early Islam.


Finally, in a sermon at the Old Mosque in al—Jumaa, Saudi Arabia, Mullah Abd al—Majid ibn al—Aziz al—Deheishi predicts victory for Islam as surely as the sun rises:

He who doubts the victory of the [Islamic] religion is like he who despairs that the sun will not rise after darkness falls...


Taking his inspiration from early Islam, al—Aziz al—Deheishi cites as proof for his prediction a hadith that says the rocks and trees will cry out that there are Jews hiding behind them, and then will all the Jews be killed, and finally Islam will be victorious (in bold print, below):

For the contemptible Jews ... is foreseen an encounter with the nation of Muhammad, as it is said: 'The Day of Judgment will come, when the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them until the Jew hides behind the stone and the tree. The stone and the tree will say: O Muslim, O worshipper of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him' — except for the gharqad (thorny bush) tree, which is the tree of the Jews. These texts are certain proof of the victory of the religion of Islam.


From all of these quotations and from the commentary on the three Quranic verses, it is evident that terrorists, extremists and even moderates believe that Islam should be spreading not only in the Greater Middle East, but all over the world. This has been seen in the comment of moderate Yusuf Ali that the expansion of Islam amounts to God's endorsement (see 48:28, above), and in the claim of intellectual 'activist' Qutb that the world must abandon western Christianity (embodied in the US) and eastern Christianity (embodied in the Russia).

Islam must tackle materialistic America and Russia because Christianity is too weak to do so.

Have you ever actually spent any time with a Muslim?


I have---in fact LOTS AND LOTS of time for more than 40 years. I was very young when I started working with and socializing with muslims-----I was not yet 20 when I read the koran-----MANY DECADES ago. I learned about islam FROM MUSLIMS. Why did you ask that of the previous poster? Is there something in the post which you find incorrect? Have YOU spent time with muslims? Have YOU read the koran? Have you been in a mosque? Do you have any specific knowledge or impressions which contradict that previous post?
 
Why Islam wants to kill all the Jews. I borrow from the teachings of al-Aziz Qari, esteemed mullah of Islam. His teaching of the end of the Jews and Christians is quite common in this day and age.

Two groups — the Jews and the Christians — are the main elements constituting the Camp of Kufr [unbelief] and will continue to be its two foundations until Allah allows their downfall and annihilation at the end of days......

al—Aziz Qari repeats the hadith that says Jesus will return and break the cross:

When the Prophet Muhammad was sent out, the Camp of Kufr declared war on his message. At the center of this war were these groups, particularly the Jews. These two groups will continue to serve as the grindstones of the conflict and the war between belief and Kufr until eternity comes... The conflict will end when Jesus the son of Mary, peace be upon him, arrives to break the cross, and wipes it off the face of the earth, and kills the blind [false] Messiah, the leader of the Jews and the tyrant whom they await. Until that day, the conflict between us, the Muslims, and the Jews and Christians will continue, and it will ebb and flow, one day ours, another day theirs....


Contrary to the mullah's revisionist assertion that the Camp of Kufr (disbelief = Jews and Christians) declared war on Islam, it is more accurate historically to say that when 'Muhammad was sent out' (by Allah) on his conquests in and around Medina and Mecca and even northward, he declared war on surrounding tribes of polytheists and all the way to the Byzantine Empire, which for the Prophet represented Christianity. Marching northward with armies (not a band of preachers only), Muhammad launched his own Crusades hundreds of years before Europeans launched theirs.


al—Aziz Qari distorts Christian eschatology (study of the end times). According to him, Jesus will return, but in favor of the Muslims, arriving to symbolically break the cross, in order to show how wrong Christians are. As we noted earlier, though, Muhammad merely changes, without evidence, Christian teaching to suit his own religion. But it is the Christians who get to read the source documents—the New Testament—and interpret them; Muhammad did not know them, but picked up what little he knew from fragments of tales and apocrypha that circulated around the trade routes of Arabia. Therefore, later Muslims do not have carte blanche to distort Christian teaching, either.


Be that as it may, al—Aziz Qari says that Islam will dominate the world, if only when Jesus returns. Until then, conflict and war between the Camp of Belief (Islam) and the Camp of Unbelief (Christianity and Judaism) will never cease. Clearly, this sheikh's rant and distortions are inspired by early Islam.


Finally, in a sermon at the Old Mosque in al—Jumaa, Saudi Arabia, Mullah Abd al—Majid ibn al—Aziz al—Deheishi predicts victory for Islam as surely as the sun rises:

He who doubts the victory of the [Islamic] religion is like he who despairs that the sun will not rise after darkness falls...


Taking his inspiration from early Islam, al—Aziz al—Deheishi cites as proof for his prediction a hadith that says the rocks and trees will cry out that there are Jews hiding behind them, and then will all the Jews be killed, and finally Islam will be victorious (in bold print, below):

For the contemptible Jews ... is foreseen an encounter with the nation of Muhammad, as it is said: 'The Day of Judgment will come, when the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them until the Jew hides behind the stone and the tree. The stone and the tree will say: O Muslim, O worshipper of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him' — except for the gharqad (thorny bush) tree, which is the tree of the Jews. These texts are certain proof of the victory of the religion of Islam.


From all of these quotations and from the commentary on the three Quranic verses, it is evident that terrorists, extremists and even moderates believe that Islam should be spreading not only in the Greater Middle East, but all over the world. This has been seen in the comment of moderate Yusuf Ali that the expansion of Islam amounts to God's endorsement (see 48:28, above), and in the claim of intellectual 'activist' Qutb that the world must abandon western Christianity (embodied in the US) and eastern Christianity (embodied in the Russia).

Islam must tackle materialistic America and Russia because Christianity is too weak to do so.

Have you ever actually spent any time with a Muslim?


I have---in fact LOTS AND LOTS of time for more than 40 years. I was very young when I started working with and socializing with muslims-----I was not yet 20 when I read the koran-----MANY DECADES ago. I learned about islam FROM MUSLIMS. Why did you ask that of the previous poster? Is there something in the post which you find incorrect? Have YOU spent time with muslims? Have YOU read the koran? Have you been in a mosque? Do you have any specific knowledge or impressions which contradict that previous post?

Muhammed was a scammer. At his wifes insistance he got involved with trying to settle disputes among the arabs. His elevation to profet status is dubious at best. Reading the Koran is a waste of your time.
 
Why Islam wants to kill all the Jews. I borrow from the teachings of al-Aziz Qari, esteemed mullah of Islam. His teaching of the end of the Jews and Christians is quite common in this day and age.

Two groups — the Jews and the Christians — are the main elements constituting the Camp of Kufr [unbelief] and will continue to be its two foundations until Allah allows their downfall and annihilation at the end of days......

al—Aziz Qari repeats the hadith that says Jesus will return and break the cross:

When the Prophet Muhammad was sent out, the Camp of Kufr declared war on his message. At the center of this war were these groups, particularly the Jews. These two groups will continue to serve as the grindstones of the conflict and the war between belief and Kufr until eternity comes... The conflict will end when Jesus the son of Mary, peace be upon him, arrives to break the cross, and wipes it off the face of the earth, and kills the blind [false] Messiah, the leader of the Jews and the tyrant whom they await. Until that day, the conflict between us, the Muslims, and the Jews and Christians will continue, and it will ebb and flow, one day ours, another day theirs....


Contrary to the mullah's revisionist assertion that the Camp of Kufr (disbelief = Jews and Christians) declared war on Islam, it is more accurate historically to say that when 'Muhammad was sent out' (by Allah) on his conquests in and around Medina and Mecca and even northward, he declared war on surrounding tribes of polytheists and all the way to the Byzantine Empire, which for the Prophet represented Christianity. Marching northward with armies (not a band of preachers only), Muhammad launched his own Crusades hundreds of years before Europeans launched theirs.


al—Aziz Qari distorts Christian eschatology (study of the end times). According to him, Jesus will return, but in favor of the Muslims, arriving to symbolically break the cross, in order to show how wrong Christians are. As we noted earlier, though, Muhammad merely changes, without evidence, Christian teaching to suit his own religion. But it is the Christians who get to read the source documents—the New Testament—and interpret them; Muhammad did not know them, but picked up what little he knew from fragments of tales and apocrypha that circulated around the trade routes of Arabia. Therefore, later Muslims do not have carte blanche to distort Christian teaching, either.


Be that as it may, al—Aziz Qari says that Islam will dominate the world, if only when Jesus returns. Until then, conflict and war between the Camp of Belief (Islam) and the Camp of Unbelief (Christianity and Judaism) will never cease. Clearly, this sheikh's rant and distortions are inspired by early Islam.


Finally, in a sermon at the Old Mosque in al—Jumaa, Saudi Arabia, Mullah Abd al—Majid ibn al—Aziz al—Deheishi predicts victory for Islam as surely as the sun rises:

He who doubts the victory of the [Islamic] religion is like he who despairs that the sun will not rise after darkness falls...


Taking his inspiration from early Islam, al—Aziz al—Deheishi cites as proof for his prediction a hadith that says the rocks and trees will cry out that there are Jews hiding behind them, and then will all the Jews be killed, and finally Islam will be victorious (in bold print, below):

For the contemptible Jews ... is foreseen an encounter with the nation of Muhammad, as it is said: 'The Day of Judgment will come, when the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them until the Jew hides behind the stone and the tree. The stone and the tree will say: O Muslim, O worshipper of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him' — except for the gharqad (thorny bush) tree, which is the tree of the Jews. These texts are certain proof of the victory of the religion of Islam.


From all of these quotations and from the commentary on the three Quranic verses, it is evident that terrorists, extremists and even moderates believe that Islam should be spreading not only in the Greater Middle East, but all over the world. This has been seen in the comment of moderate Yusuf Ali that the expansion of Islam amounts to God's endorsement (see 48:28, above), and in the claim of intellectual 'activist' Qutb that the world must abandon western Christianity (embodied in the US) and eastern Christianity (embodied in the Russia).

Islam must tackle materialistic America and Russia because Christianity is too weak to do so.

Have you ever actually spent any time with a Muslim?


I have---in fact LOTS AND LOTS of time for more than 40 years. I was very young when I started working with and socializing with muslims-----I was not yet 20 when I read the koran-----MANY DECADES ago. I learned about islam FROM MUSLIMS. Why did you ask that of the previous poster? Is there something in the post which you find incorrect? Have YOU spent time with muslims? Have YOU read the koran? Have you been in a mosque? Do you have any specific knowledge or impressions which contradict that previous post?

Why did I ask? Because when I met Muslims, including those I met in Turkey in the 70s, they knew we were Americans (but not if we were Jews or Christians) and were about the kindest people -- inviting us to dine with them, showing us around their village, taking us fishing, giving us gifts. They didn't try to tackle us or shun us or convert us to Islam.

I've no doubt that there are some evangelical type Muslims. But not all Islam is like that in my experience.
 
Have you ever actually spent any time with a Muslim?


I have---in fact LOTS AND LOTS of time for more than 40 years. I was very young when I started working with and socializing with muslims-----I was not yet 20 when I read the koran-----MANY DECADES ago. I learned about islam FROM MUSLIMS. Why did you ask that of the previous poster? Is there something in the post which you find incorrect? Have YOU spent time with muslims? Have YOU read the koran? Have you been in a mosque? Do you have any specific knowledge or impressions which contradict that previous post?

Why did I ask? Because when I met Muslims, including those I met in Turkey in the 70s, they knew we were Americans (but not if we were Jews or Christians) and were about the kindest people -- inviting us to dine with them, showing us around their village, taking us fishing, giving us gifts. They didn't try to tackle us or shun us or convert us to Islam.

I've no doubt that there are some evangelical type Muslims. But not all Islam is like that in my experience.

How interesting---you have just admitted that you have virtually NO experience with MUSLIMS. Turks have ALWAYS been the MOST liberal minded of all muslims.-----even before the great reformer ATATURK took over and---virtually OUTLAWED the implementation of islamic law. I will help you----to begin with it is very important that you know that TURKS are DESPISED by arabs-----and they are despised thruout the ISLAMIC WORLD for their LACK OF FERVOR in islam AND for their Liberalism towards non muslims. They, in turn----despise arabs. Interstingly----it is actually the TURKS that facilitated the present ZIONIST program in palestine----the Zionist program that resulted in the State of Israel---began in the early 1800s-----because---the TURKS did not INFLICT the strict filth of Shariah law in palestine the denied virtually all rights to jews. That FACT made it possible for jews to BUY LAND in palestine. Contrary to the islamo nazi propaganda upon which you were suckled----THAT WAS THE BEGINNING of the current state of Israel. Jews from OTHER parts of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE----where the turks could not CONTROL THE FILTH OF SHARIAH and obscene oppression of jews under that filth------therefore MIGRATED TO PALESTINE. I have relative thru marriage who lived in a city---which still exists in Israel FOUNDED in 1880----by JEWS and some of those relatives in my extended family were charter members. The city inhabitants came from various parts of the world including escapees from the FILTH OF ISLAMIC OPPRESSION elsewhere in the OTTOMAN EMPIRE. This is the part that your islamo nazi mindset likes to ignore. Citing the turks as "Muslims" would actually amuse many muslims around the world-------thanks for shaing what you consider "experience" with muslims. -----I do not wish to mislead you. Liberalism in Turkey has its opponents and periodically the Shariah filth lovers DID win ------There were massacres against both christians and jews in Turkey thruout the history of ISLAMIC Turkey -----I am sure you KNOW that more than a million unarmed armenian christians were murdered LEGALLY BY SHARIAH LAW----by muslims 1915-1917 and I am SURE that your turkish friends never MENTIONED that fact------It is ILLEGAL to mention that FACT in Turkey. I have a relative born in Turkey. It is HIS educated opinion that the PRO SHARIAH FILTH people are growing stronger in Turkey and its current LIBERALISM is going down the cosmic toilet If you really want to know how wonderuful are the Turks -----find some christian turks and ask them how SAFE they feel right now from ISLAMIC takeover and resulting oppression. -----but lets face it----you really don't want to know.
 
I have---in fact LOTS AND LOTS of time for more than 40 years. I was very young when I started working with and socializing with muslims-----I was not yet 20 when I read the koran-----MANY DECADES ago. I learned about islam FROM MUSLIMS. Why did you ask that of the previous poster? Is there something in the post which you find incorrect? Have YOU spent time with muslims? Have YOU read the koran? Have you been in a mosque? Do you have any specific knowledge or impressions which contradict that previous post?

Why did I ask? Because when I met Muslims, including those I met in Turkey in the 70s, they knew we were Americans (but not if we were Jews or Christians) and were about the kindest people -- inviting us to dine with them, showing us around their village, taking us fishing, giving us gifts. They didn't try to tackle us or shun us or convert us to Islam.

I've no doubt that there are some evangelical type Muslims. But not all Islam is like that in my experience.

How interesting---you have just admitted that you have virtually NO experience with MUSLIMS. Turks have ALWAYS been the MOST liberal minded of all muslims


Yep. I thought they were Muslims, which is I why I brought it up.

... Contrary to the islamo nazi propaganda upon which you were suckled ...

... This is the part that your islamo nazi mindset likes to ignore. ...

Wow! I just mention I knew some nice Muslims, and that makes me an "islamo nazi mindset"?

You've very amply clarified *your* mindset for all to see.
 
Have you ever actually spent any time with a Muslim?


I have---in fact LOTS AND LOTS of time for more than 40 years. I was very young when I started working with and socializing with muslims-----I was not yet 20 when I read the koran-----MANY DECADES ago. I learned about islam FROM MUSLIMS. Why did you ask that of the previous poster? Is there something in the post which you find incorrect? Have YOU spent time with muslims? Have YOU read the koran? Have you been in a mosque? Do you have any specific knowledge or impressions which contradict that previous post?

Why did I ask? Because when I met Muslims, including those I met in Turkey in the 70s, they knew we were Americans (but not if we were Jews or Christians) and were about the kindest people -- inviting us to dine with them, showing us around their village, taking us fishing, giving us gifts. They didn't try to tackle us or shun us or convert us to Islam.

I've no doubt that there are some evangelical type Muslims. But not all Islam is like that in my experience.

I have spent considerable time with Muslims. Those that are mainstream are usually good people tied to a good culture. Those that qualify as Radical Islamics are totally evil. Osama Bin Ladin is from their ranks. Those Islamics making all the beheading videos are from the Radical Islamic ranks. They are militant and see all weak Muslims and non Muslims alike (Infidels - Who need to be converted to Radical Islam or killed.)

That is the reason why the Radical Islamics are not reluctant to blow up their fellow countrymen when they target foreign infidels. They want to advance Radical Islam and could care less about mainstream Islam.

When I was going through Naval Officer Candidate School in 1977-78, Iranian officer Candidates were enrolled in our school in Newport Rhode Island. A group of them were very secretive and were not very social. They did not even want to talk to those of us Americans who were infidels. You could see an almost crazed look to their eyes when we came into their activities accidentally.

It is my nature to be an early riser. In a barracks situation like OCS was, I would get up before revellie so I could shave brush my teeth and shower without waiting in line. When I walked into the bathroom area at 0430 in the morning, I came upon one of those fanatical weird eye types of Iranians. He had his crotch all lathered up and was shaving beneath his testicles with an oldfashioned straight razor. That looked weird as hell to me, so I asked him what he was doing, while keeping a safe distance from that straight razor.

He looked at me and said, "Must be clean for Allah. Must shave all body hair!"

It seemed really strange that Allah would insist that a guy undergo razor burn to his scrotal sack and anus area, so right then and there I decided to avoid those crazy fruitcakes. The fanatics are nutz. No wonder those clowns were willing to fly those planes into the World Trade Towers. By doing so, they could avoid the pain of razor burn in those sensitive areas and get to bif 72 virgin boys at the same time.
 
I have---in fact LOTS AND LOTS of time for more than 40 years. I was very young when I started working with and socializing with muslims-----I was not yet 20 when I read the koran-----MANY DECADES ago. I learned about islam FROM MUSLIMS. Why did you ask that of the previous poster? Is there something in the post which you find incorrect? Have YOU spent time with muslims? Have YOU read the koran? Have you been in a mosque? Do you have any specific knowledge or impressions which contradict that previous post?

Why did I ask? Because when I met Muslims, including those I met in Turkey in the 70s, they knew we were Americans (but not if we were Jews or Christians) and were about the kindest people -- inviting us to dine with them, showing us around their village, taking us fishing, giving us gifts. They didn't try to tackle us or shun us or convert us to Islam.

I've no doubt that there are some evangelical type Muslims. But not all Islam is like that in my experience.

I have spent considerable time with Muslims. Those that are mainstream are usually good people tied to a good culture. Those that qualify as Radical Islamics are totally evil. Osama Bin Ladin is from their ranks.

Then why did you not limit your OP to radical Islamics?

...

It seemed really strange that Allah would insist that a guy undergo razor burn to his scrotal sack and anus area, so right then and there I decided to avoid those crazy fruitcakes. The fanatics are nutz. No wonder those clowns were willing to fly those planes into the World Trade Towers. By doing so, they could avoid the pain of razor burn in those sensitive areas and get to bif 72 virgin boys at the same time.

Do you typically attribute the behavior of one to an entire group? Does an antecdote equate to statistics? I've never heard, myself, that scrotum shaving is a trait commonly practiced in Islam.
 
I have---in fact LOTS AND LOTS of time for more than 40 years. I was very young when I started working with and socializing with muslims-----I was not yet 20 when I read the koran-----MANY DECADES ago. I learned about islam FROM MUSLIMS. Why did you ask that of the previous poster? Is there something in the post which you find incorrect? Have YOU spent time with muslims? Have YOU read the koran? Have you been in a mosque? Do you have any specific knowledge or impressions which contradict that previous post?

Why did I ask? Because when I met Muslims, including those I met in Turkey in the 70s, they knew we were Americans (but not if we were Jews or Christians) and were about the kindest people -- inviting us to dine with them, showing us around their village, taking us fishing, giving us gifts. They didn't try to tackle us or shun us or convert us to Islam.

I've no doubt that there are some evangelical type Muslims. But not all Islam is like that in my experience.

I have spent considerable time with Muslims. Those that are mainstream are usually good people tied to a good culture. Those that qualify as Radical Islamics are totally evil. Osama Bin Ladin is from their ranks. Those Islamics making all the beheading videos are from the Radical Islamic ranks. They are militant and see all weak Muslims and non Muslims alike (Infidels - Who need to be converted to Radical Islam or killed.)

That is the reason why the Radical Islamics are not reluctant to blow up their fellow countrymen when they target foreign infidels. They want to advance Radical Islam and could care less about mainstream Islam.

When I was going through Naval Officer Candidate School in 1977-78, Iranian officer Candidates were enrolled in our school in Newport Rhode Island. A group of them were very secretive and were not very social. They did not even want to talk to those of us Americans who were infidels. You could see an almost crazed look to their eyes when we came into their activities accidentally.

It is my nature to be an early riser. In a barracks situation like OCS was, I would get up before revellie so I could shave brush my teeth and shower without waiting in line. When I walked into the bathroom area at 0430 in the morning, I came upon one of those fanatical weird eye types of Iranians. He had his crotch all lathered up and was shaving beneath his testicles with an oldfashioned straight razor. That looked weird as hell to me, so I asked him what he was doing, while keeping a safe distance from that straight razor.

He looked at me and said, "Must be clean for Allah. Must shave all body hair!"

It seemed really strange that Allah would insist that a guy undergo razor burn to his scrotal sack and anus area, so right then and there I decided to avoid those crazy fruitcakes. The fanatics are nutz. No wonder those clowns were willing to fly those planes into the World Trade Towers. By doing so, they could avoid the pain of razor burn in those sensitive areas and get to bif 72 virgin boys at the same time.

hey newbarf..wtf... now tells us the one about the time capt Ahab tried to harpoon you...thats one of my faves !


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPGwMyqWouU]YouTube - The Death of Ahab[/ame]
 
Why did I ask? Because when I met Muslims, including those I met in Turkey in the 70s, they knew we were Americans (but not if we were Jews or Christians) and were about the kindest people -- inviting us to dine with them, showing us around their village, taking us fishing, giving us gifts. They didn't try to tackle us or shun us or convert us to Islam.

I've no doubt that there are some evangelical type Muslims. But not all Islam is like that in my experience.

I have spent considerable time with Muslims. Those that are mainstream are usually good people tied to a good culture. Those that qualify as Radical Islamics are totally evil. Osama Bin Ladin is from their ranks.

Then why did you not limit your OP to radical Islamics?

...

It seemed really strange that Allah would insist that a guy undergo razor burn to his scrotal sack and anus area, so right then and there I decided to avoid those crazy fruitcakes. The fanatics are nutz. No wonder those clowns were willing to fly those planes into the World Trade Towers. By doing so, they could avoid the pain of razor burn in those sensitive areas and get to bif 72 virgin boys at the same time.

Do you typically attribute the behavior of one to an entire group? Does an antecdote equate to statistics? I've never heard, myself, that scrotum shaving is a trait commonly practiced in Islam.

Its interesting that you do not know that. Shaving the armpits and the genital area is something both muslim men and women do-----I am not sure if they are REQURED to do so---but some do consider it a religious thing. It is CERTAINLY a highly regarded custom amongst muslims.
It was your comment regarding "meeting nice muslims"----that pegged you as something of an apologist. I have met nice muslims too. A friend of mine once ran into a Mafia leader (I will not name him) and she said he was EXTREMELY CHARMING (that was before he died in jail) Adolf Hitler and Sadaam Hussein were also charming in person. I am sure that there are charming people in all societies- Virtually all lawyers are charming.
The bottom line is that you really do not know----and have no actual experience or knowledge regarding the problems that non muslims
face in islamic lands----or the kinds of beliefs muslims actually hold. That you were not evangelized during a visit seems somehow remarkable to you?---- Have you ever been evangelized when visting a foreign country?---- If you go as a tourist to India do you imagine that HINDUS will demand that you convert to HINDUISM?
 
I have spent considerable time with Muslims. Those that are mainstream are usually good people tied to a good culture. Those that qualify as Radical Islamics are totally evil. Osama Bin Ladin is from their ranks.

Then why did you not limit your OP to radical Islamics?

...

It seemed really strange that Allah would insist that a guy undergo razor burn to his scrotal sack and anus area, so right then and there I decided to avoid those crazy fruitcakes. The fanatics are nutz. No wonder those clowns were willing to fly those planes into the World Trade Towers. By doing so, they could avoid the pain of razor burn in those sensitive areas and get to bif 72 virgin boys at the same time.

Do you typically attribute the behavior of one to an entire group? Does an antecdote equate to statistics? I've never heard, myself, that scrotum shaving is a trait commonly practiced in Islam.

Its interesting that you do not know that. Shaving the armpits and the genital area is something both muslim men and women do-----I am not sure if they are REQURED to do so---but some do consider it a religious thing. It is CERTAINLY a highly regarded custom amongst muslims.
It was your comment regarding "meeting nice muslims"----that pegged you as something of an apologist. I have met nice muslims too. A friend of mine once ran into a Mafia leader (I will not name him) and she said he was EXTREMELY CHARMING (that was before he died in jail) Adolf Hitler and Sadaam Hussein were also charming in person. I am sure that there are charming people in all societies- Virtually all lawyers are charming.
The bottom line is that you really do not know----and have no actual experience or knowledge regarding the problems that non muslims
face in islamic lands----or the kinds of beliefs muslims actually hold. That you were not evangelized during a visit seems somehow remarkable to you?---- Have you ever been evangelized when visting a foreign country?---- If you go as a tourist to India do you imagine that HINDUS will demand that you convert to HINDUISM?

LOL, why would you think I know if they shave their balls? I just said I spent some time with some and none of them tried to kill me. You're the guy who says he studied them in the shower! LMAO!
 
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LOL, why would you think I know if they shave their balls? I just said I spent some time with some and none of them tried to kill me. You're the guy who says he studied them in the shower! LMAO!


Keep laughing your a$$ off. I know what muslims do because I have had SCORES AND SCORES of muslim friends-----and my profession involves physical examination. I shower alone and I am not a "guy" ---I am a girl. -----your statement is idiotic The good news is that you seem to realize that you---SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW. That realization is very important. You should now try to learn
 

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