Why is trump meeting Putin in Alaska to discuss "swapping territories"?

[yidnar]

Wasn't today's Putin's deadline or he'd face sanctions?

A lot of damage and lives can be lost in a week's time.

what did the last admin do to end the war ..

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Putin is playing him like a fiddle.

And everyone outside of his embarrassing cult knows it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

what did the last admin do to end the war ..

Maybe have a look at the tiny gains it took Russia 3 years to get. And there is your answer.

Now, no thanks to the fat rapist, Putin needs an offramp, due to 3 years of failure to take territory the size of Delaware.

 

[theHawk]

your posts are Russian propoganda. You even cite Russian propoganda as a source.

This “warmonger” label you Russian trolls and useful idiots is straight out of the Kremlin’s mouth. You know ittoo.

you, and the rest of the Trump sheep shilling for Putin while pretending that your beloved fuhrer is a “peacemaker” is so clearly self serving, dishonest, and disloyal to America.

What “Russia propaganda” source did I use?

YouTube? LOL

 

[Seymour Flops]

So, you’re a hard core isolationist….

That very same kind of thinking helped facism fester in Europe and Japan from the late 1920’s to the democracies were dragged into a World War.

Ironic then, that we were dragged into WWII in Europe because FDR wanted to help a dictator so evil, so murderous, and so totalitarian that Stalinism was literally named after him.

By kowtowing to Putin, Trump is dividing an alliance that has stool for 75 years.

How are they divided by Trump? If they want to stick together, they are welcome to.

NATO has been letting the U.S. foot the bill for far to long. I understand that at first, the French and the Brits were weakened and dependent, so we pretended that NATA was an alliance among equals to allow them to save face. Their GDP was so small that spending a percent of it was no sacrifice, and they got the might of the U.S. protecting them at virtually no charge.

But pretending that they cannot pay their way now is just taking advantage of our foolish over-generosity.

If Europe can't stand the idea of the dictator over Ukraine not being a Ukrainian dictator, then let them spend as much blood and treasure as they choose.

This weakens European power. It also considerably weakens US power, as the US cannot expect to get more than lukewarm support in the face of Trump’s betrayal.

How does their "support" bought at such a high price provide us benefit worth the cost?

 

[TimFitz]

Whats wrong with being isolationist, and what's wrong with the US keeping herself out of other countries' wars, including European countries' wars?

I just explained it.

it weakens us significantly in influence and power.

We stood astride the free world for 75 years. Our leadership was seldom challenged.

That changed when Bush and Cheney were ready to launch an unprovoked war in the Middle East.

Trump began attacking NATO in public in 2015, belittling world leaders of all sorts, all the while.

To the world, Trump is an ignorant, corrupt, vulgar and self interested gangster.

No one trusts him. They know his word is worthless.

That alone deminishes the soft power of the White House, and weakens our ability to to command either respect or support from our traditional Allie’s.

The real beneficiary is clearly China, though.

And by dividing the world the way he has, and abandoned the role of world leader (but not the bluster and threats), he is planting the seeds for the next world war.

 

[TimFitz]

Ironic then, that we were dragged into WWII in Europe because FDR wanted to help a dictator so evil, so murderous, and so totalitarian that Stalinism was literally named after him.

How are they divided by Trump? If they want to stick together, they are welcome to.

NATO has been letting the U.S. foot the bill for far to long. I understand that at first, the French and the Brits were weakened and dependent, so we pretended that NATA was an alliance among equals to allow them to save face. Their GDP was so small that spending a percent of it was no sacrifice, and they got the might of the U.S. protecting them at virtually no charge.

But pretending that they cannot pay their way now is just taking advantage of our foolish over-generosity.

If Europe can't stand the idea of the dictator over Ukraine not being a Ukrainian dictator, then let them spend as much blood and treasure as they choose.

How does their "support" bought at such a high price provide us benefit worth the cost?

Uh, Hitler declared war on the United States. The Russians didn’t make him do it.

The US has never given NATO anything other than we committed to. And a lot of the money NATO members contributed went into the pockets of American military contractors.

We did not “afoot” anyone else’s bill.

Ukraine is crucial to the world balance of power. Without it, Russia would be a large, but not especially powerful state.

With it, they’re a world power.

Why Trump panders to Putin still, is beyond me.

We won the Cold War. Trump is trying to unwin it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Uh, Hitler declared war on the United States. The Russians didn’t make him do it.

So what? Hitler did that to appease Japan. We went to war against Germany after Japan attacked us, because that was what FDR had been wanting to do.

The US has never given NATO anything other than we committed to.

How is that an argument? We committed too much, obviously.

And a lot of the money NATO members contributed went into the pockets of American military contractors.

How much did American Military contractors pay politicians to make that happen?

We did not “afoot” anyone else’s bill.

Why do you say "afoot" in quotes? That's not what my post says.

Ukraine is crucial to the world balance of power. Without it, Russia would be a large, but not especially powerful state.

They are without it now.

With it, they’re a world power.

Then Europes task is clear. Unless they don't care enough to perform it. If they don't, why should we?

Why Trump panders to Putin still, is beyond me.

He doesn't, that's your media lying to you.

We won the Cold War. Trump is trying to unwin it.

Wow.

Liberals now hate Trump so much that they are even willing to admit that Ronald Reagan and his voters won the Cold War, if only they can blame Trump for something in the same breath?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So what? Hitler did that to appease Japan.

You are either a shameless liar seeking attention, or you know less than nothing about any of this and should stop talking immediately.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Uh, Hitler declared war on the United States.

Did he? I am pretty sure he didn't. He most likely pleaded with whoever the POTUS was at the time (I don't care enough to look it up, it's not important anyway), not to go to war against Germany, just like he did with the literal ****** Churchill. Why would Germany want to go to war with US when she already had more enemies she could contend with?

The US got dragged into the war because Japan attacked her. This is technically true, however, what most don't know is that, the US government actually knew about Japan's attack beforehand, but they allowed it to happen anyway. They did this because they wanted an excuse to declare war on Germany. There was a lot of anti-war sentiment at the time that the government needed to overcome.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Did he? I am pretty sure he didn't. He most likely pleaded with whoever the POTUS was at the time (I don't care enough to look it up, it's not important anyway), not to go to war against Germany, just like he did with the literal ****** Churchill. Why would Germany want to go to war with US when she already had more enemies she could contend with?

The US got dragged into the war because Japan attacked her. This is technically true, however, what most don't know is that, the US government actually knew about Japan's attack beforehand, but they allowed it to happen anyway. They did this because they wanted an excuse to declare war on Germany. There was a lot of anti-war sentiment at the time that the government needed to overcome.

yes they did...Germany along with Italy...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

yes they did...Germany along with Italy...

And thought that was the ticket to winning the war in Europe decisively. He thought this would decrease the aid the US was giving its allies against Germany. Well, he was right. Instead we came across the pond ourselves.

 

[Delldude]

The man you voted for called Putin a genius for invading Ukraine.

No wonder.... Putin invaded while Biden was napping.

Biden’s support to Ukraine has killed hundreds of thousands of Russians …..hardly weak and ineffective

Also inivted lots of death to Ukraine.

 

[defcon4]

Did he? I am pretty sure he didn't. He most likely pleaded with whoever the POTUS was at the time (I don't care enough to look it up, it's not important anyway), not to go to war against Germany, just like he did with the literal ****** Churchill. Why would Germany want to go to war with US when she already had more enemies she could contend with?

The US got dragged into the war because Japan attacked her. This is technically true, however, what most don't know is that, the US government actually knew about Japan's attack beforehand, but they allowed it to happen anyway. They did this because they wanted an excuse to declare war on Germany. There was a lot of anti-war sentiment at the time that the government needed to overcome.

Rudolf Hess flew to England with the peace offer. The content of the mail he carried has never been made public. He was imprisoned in Spandau for the rest of his life what ended by a negro guard suffocating him. He was 93 years old and I am sure the guard had no trouble suffocating a very old man.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Rudolf Hess flew to England with the peace offer. The content of the mail he carried has never been made public. He was imprisoned in Spandau for the rest of his life what ended by a negro guard suffocating him. He was 93 years old and I am sure the guard had no trouble suffocating a very old man.

I guess they really really wanted to keep the content of that mail secret.

 

[TimFitz]

So what? Hitler did that to appease Japan. We went to war against Germany after Japan attacked us, because that was what FDR had been wanting to do.

How is that an argument? We committed too much, obviously.

How much did American Military contractors pay politicians to make that happen?

Why do you say "afoot" in quotes? That's not what my post says.

They are without it now.

Then Europes task is clear. Unless they don't care enough to perform it. If they don't, why should we?

He doesn't, that's your media lying to you.

Wow.

Liberals now hate Trump so much that they are even willing to admit that Ronald Reagan and his voters won the Cold War, if only they can blame Trump for something in the same breath?

The world world watched as Trump debased himself, his office and his country when he took Putin’s side over the word of his own intelligence community.

The world say Trump kowtowing.

Trump endorsed the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and did what he could to delay or deny aid to Ukraine.

Ronald Reaganmayhave won the Cold War, but Putin has said that the conquest of Ukraine is the first step in rebuilding the Iron Curtain.

And Donald Trump has been trying to help him do it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Tell tRump that.

I dont have his phone number. ...do you?

 

[defcon4]

I guess they really really wanted to keep the content of that mail secret.

Indeed they did. Churchill was totally under control and "wanted" to continue the war.

 

[Crepitus]

I dont have his phone number. ...do you?

twit him then.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I dont have his phone number. ...do you?

Could just rent ad time on Fox