Zone1 Why is there fear of Black people?

[odanny]

No. Because whites get away with hate crimes on blacks. Most white hate crimes against blacks don't get reported. Stop making excuses. Whites have been and continue to be, the most violent and criminal group in this country. The example of this is the fact that part of the white population who are Republican will be voting for a criminal to be the Presdent of this country.

Unfortunately we could never have an honest discussion on this because you refuse the acknowledge the high crime rate amongst many black communities.

I'm not talking root cause, much of what experts find could actually be verified, and much of root cause will be subjective and open to interpretation.

None of that is what I'm referring to, but what you always revert to in your arguments. Acknowledge what is happening in the black community in regards to crime.

I'm talking cold hard science, meaurable and verifiable (that which is reported, actual crime likely higher) and not whataboutisms.

 

[el midgetron]

The problem is that 2.1 percent of the population commits crimes. And out of that 2.1 percet, 1.09 percent are whites. 0.6 percent are black. So when you examine the actual numbers of criminal offenders, whites are number 1.

 

[odanny]

Has the guy who smashed Steve Buscemi across the face been charged with a hate crime?

 

[Failzero]

The problem with this false equvalence is that the people who did that were protesting actual police murders while the 1-6 people were doing what they did for nothing.

I think the Steal was real ( not nothing )

 

[GMCGeneral]

What are non murder violent crimes?

Assault, armed/strongarmed robbery are just two. Basically, where a violent crime is perpetrated and no death results.

 

[Failzero]

Assault, armed/strongarmed robbery are just two. Basically, where a violent crime is perpetrated and no death results.

Is Rape a violent Crime ?

 

[GMCGeneral]

Is Rape a violent Crime ?

It is, I added the caveat "are just two"

 

[Failzero]

It is, I added the caveat "are just two"

I thought Democrats ( Whoopi Goldberg ) added “ Peaceful Rape “ to the Rape equation

 

[Missourian]

The problem is that 2.1 percent of the population commits crimes. And out of that 2.1 percet, 1.09 percent are whites. 0.6 percent are black. So when you examine the actual numbers of criminal offenders, whites are number 1. You don't get to excuse whites committing more crimes because you have more people. 13 percent of the population is not committing 51 percent of the murders, and murder is just one crime. Let's expound about celebrating crime, because right wing whites want to put a criminal in the office of the presidency. That's is the ultimarte celebration of crime. And since the Sopranos were not black, maybe yu need to understannd that whites have celebrated crime on the bg screen and on TV.

Whites who think like you ignore the vast violence and criminality of your own race. It's a legacy handed down through generations of whites comitting crimes, making excuses, white describing non whites as savages, animials, immoral, violent or criminal.

That's not how statistics work.

All things being equal...

Statistically, each racial group should have a percentage of crimes committed equal to their representation.

If whites are 60% of the population then they should statistically be responsible for 60% of all murders.

And blacks as 13% of the population should account for 13% of all murders.

When 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of murders, that deviation from the expected norms signify a significant issue.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

...., simply because of the color of our skin

No, it's not because of the color of your skin.

It's because the 6% of the population (who just happen to have your skin color) commit HALF of most crime.

Not all blacks are like this, but such a high percentage are, that the decent ones need to prove themselves to most of us.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

When 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of murders, that deviation from the expected norms signify a significant issue

Actually, it's more like 6%. Black MALES commit most of those crimes

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The problem you have is this, Whites commit 61 percent of the violent crime and lead annually in 27 to 28 out ofte 30 categores of crime listed n the UCR. There are more, but I'll make this short.

Still not understanding percentages I see

 

[AZrailwhale]

The problem is that 2.1 percent of the population commits crimes. And out of that 2.1 percet, 1.09 percent are whites. 0.6 percent are black. So when you examine the actual numbers of criminal offenders, whites are number 1. You don't get to excuse whites committing more crimes because you have more people. 13 percent of the population is not committing 51 percent of the murders, and murder is just one crime. Let's expound about celebrating crime, because right wing whites want to put a criminal in the office of the presidency. That's is the ultimarte celebration of crime. And since the Sopranos were not black, maybe yu need to understannd that whites have celebrated crime on the bg screen and on TV.

Whites who think like you ignore the vast violence and criminality of your own race. It's a legacy handed down through generations of whites comitting crimes, making excuses, white describing non whites as savages, animials, immoral, violent or criminal.

So by your own numbers .6% of the population commits over fifty percent of the murders. That’s actually worse for your position than saying 12% of the population commits more than half the murders.

 

[IM2]

Still not understanding percentages I see

I understand them better than you.

 

[IM2]

No, it's not because of the color of your skin.

It's because the 6% of the population (who just happen to have your skin color) commit HALF of most crime.

Not all blacks are like this, but such a high percentage are, that the decent ones need to prove themselves to most of us.

Wrong. Whites need to prove themselves to us. Whites have a record of crime and violence against us that has lasted 405 years. We have nothing to prove to you. Your numbers are screwed up. 2.1 percent of all Americans are criminal offenders. 1.09 percent of American criminal offenders are white. 0.6 percent of American criminal offenders are black. So more whites are committing crimes. There is no high percentage of black criminals.

 

[IM2]

That's not how statistics work.

All things being equal...

Statistically, each racial group should have a percentage of crimes committed equal to their representation.

If whites are 60% of the population then they should statistically be responsible for 60% of all murders.

And blacks as 13% of the population should account for 13% of all murders.

When 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of murders, that deviation from the expected norms signify a significant issue.

That is exactly how stats work. You can only measure crime by the number of people committing crimes.

 

[el midgetron]

For the critical thinkers keeping score -

It’s the race responsible for the biggest percent of total crimes committed ……until we are talking about who is killing black people. Then IM2 will use a different standard to suit his position.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Wrong. Whites need to prove themselves to us. Whites have a record of crime and violence against us that has lasted 405 years. We have nothing to prove to you. Your numbers are screwed up. 2.1 percent of all Americans are criminal offenders. 1.09 percent of American criminal offenders are white. 0.6 percent of American criminal offenders are black. So more whites are committing crimes. There is no high percentage of black criminals.

Until you collectively change your behavior you will not be seen as civilized human beings

 

[Maga12]

If half the population of the US were black, you would have a point.

The blacks doing those murders don't even account for 1% of the population. It's all just a pretext for anti black racism.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You're not black and no one said this too you, nor is this the reason they "fear" blacks. The right word is "hate". I just don't care what white or other non black people think. Let them be afraid, I wouldn't give a sheit. Dats yo bidnezz. I want you to be afraid of us. Always have that fear of stepping out of line, knowing there will be, not a proportional, but disproportional response in kind. I wish, bro. I wish.

Whites don't hate blacks. Almost all of us are indifferent about blacks. We simply don't care one way or another.