Why is spending up?

[struth]

SS is an entitlement ... it's not included in any of the 12 Regular Appropriations bills ...

Oh wait ... coward MAGA Mike Johnson is too yeller to change anything ... pork barrel Continuing Resolution after pork barrel Continuing Resolution ... Congress is funding all these programs DOGE is trying to eliminate ... and TACO Trump is just itchin' to sign ...

Trumpanzees can only fling their poop around ... maybe Bubba can try and edukate himself ...

Appropriations bill (United States) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

DOGE is just cutting waste fraud and abuse.

Yes, it's an entitlement that needs reform.

Johnson has already passed a budget, it's in the Senate now.

 

[ReinyDays]

DOGE is just cutting waste fraud and abuse.

Yes, it's an entitlement that needs reform.

Johnson has already passed a budget, it's in the Senate now.

Johnson didn't pass a budget ... he passed a pork barrel CR because he's too much of a coward to do anything else ... do you think the law is optional? ... fraud, waste and abuse are crimes ... shouldn't the DoJ be involved? ...

How would you reform Social Security? ... other than taking money from old people, and that's a scuzzy thing to do ... they paid their taxes, why would you take away the benefits? ...

Controlling fraud, waste and abuse sounds good but there's been no indictments ... so it's not fraud, waste and abuse ... it's TACO ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

 

[Mac1958]

Johnson didn't pass a budget ... he passed a pork barrel CR because he's too much of a coward to do anything else ... do you think the law is optional? ... fraud, waste and abuse are crimes ... shouldn't the DoJ be involved? ...

How would you reform Social Security? ... other than taking money from old people, and that's a scuzzy thing to do ... they paid their taxes, why would you take away the benefits? ...

Controlling fraud, waste and abuse sounds good but there's been no indictments ... so it's not fraud, waste and abuse ... it's TACO ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

Predictably, this has been a fuckin' fiasco.

I don't like it, but we can't just CAREFULLY and PROFESSIONALLY audit and streamline the government (unlike Musk's caveman chainsaw approach) AND we have to increase income tax rates on the top end. We should also install minimum effective tax rates (at least 5% or 10%) on corporate taxes.

I don't like increasing taxes. But for the GQP to pretend that we don't need to is either ignorance or dishonesty. There is simply no choice now.

It's time to get serious. For a change.

 

[ReinyDays]

Predictably, this has been a fuckin' fiasco.

I don't like it, but we can't just CAREFULLY and PROFESSIONALLY audit and streamline the government (unlike Musk's caveman chainsaw approach) AND we have to increase income tax rates on the top end. We should also install minimum effective tax rates (at least 5% or 10%) on corporate taxes.

I don't like increasing taxes. But for the GQP to pretend that we don't need to is either ignorance or dishonesty.

It's time to get serious. For a change.

There's no bookkeeping in Washington DC, hasn't been for decades ... spending is, in fact, out of control ... we can only estimate our debt and look who's making these estimates ... things are a lot worse than politicians say ...

Pork barrel CR after pork barrel CR ... the Middle Class just stand there getting kicked in the nuts ... generation after generation ...

 

[Thinker101]

When we have DOGE?

Spending this time last year was $154 billion less.

DOGE claims they "saved" $150 though that is very debatable.

Doesn't seem to be working, does it.

Chart from WSJ

View attachment 1099618


But if he's saved $150 B and spending is still up over $150 B then that means tRump has spend almost 1/3 of a trillion more than Biden did in the same time frame.

This math ain't workin' guys.

I can't see any point to DOGE.

Is it just a big distraction to keep us from noticing something else?

Or is the point really just cause pain?

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-doge-government-spending-increases-5903992d

Not quite sure how this is supposed to work with you clowns. You piss and moan when there are proposed cuts, even going so far to find judges to put holds on proposed cuts. Now with spending up, you piss and moan more. Seems to be clear, you idiots just want to piss and moan.

 

[struth]

Johnson didn't pass a budget ... he passed a pork barrel CR because he's too much of a coward to do anything else ... do you think the law is optional? ... fraud, waste and abuse are crimes ... shouldn't the DoJ be involved? ...

How would you reform Social Security? ... other than taking money from old people, and that's a scuzzy thing to do ... they paid their taxes, why would you take away the benefits? ...

Controlling fraud, waste and abuse sounds good but there's been no indictments ... so it's not fraud, waste and abuse ... it's TACO ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

They passed a budget on May 22nd.

Where you been?

As far as the DOGE cutting wast, fraud and abuse and the DOJ, yes, and IRS, DOGE has made referrals to both.

Where you been?

I would make SS more like Sweden

 

[bendog]

When we have DOGE?

Spending this time last year was $154 billion less.

DOGE claims they "saved" $150 though that is very debatable.

Doesn't seem to be working, does it.

Chart from WSJ

View attachment 1099618


But if he's saved $150 B and spending is still up over $150 B then that means tRump has spend almost 1/3 of a trillion more than Biden did in the same time frame.

This math ain't workin' guys.

I can't see any point to DOGE.

Is it just a big distraction to keep us from noticing something else?

Or is the point really just cause pain?

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-doge-government-spending-increases-5903992d

There may be 10-15 people here who are not surprised, and the rest will say "fake news." I'd laugh, but Trump is simultaneously pursuing tariffs, Ports in the US do NOT have the shipping they normally would have, and he just added 4 trillion to debt. All three of those are inflationary, although imo tariffs that paid down public debt would not be inflationary, although we haven't tried it over a century ,,, and I can't remember that far back. (-:

 

[bendog]

They passed a budget on May 22nd.

Where you been?

As far as the DOGE cutting wast, fraud and abuse and the DOJ, yes, and IRS, DOGE has made referrals to both.

Where you been?

I would make SS more like Sweden

with an extra 4 trill deficit, and they havent done shit with doge

 

[struth]

There may be 10-15 people here who are not surprised, and the rest will say "fake news." I'd laugh, but Trump is simultaneously pursuing tariffs, Ports in the US do NOT have the shipping they normally would have, and he just added 4 trillion to debt. All three of those are inflationary, although imo tariffs that paid down public debt would not be inflationary, although we haven't tried it over a century ,,, and I can't remember that far back. (-:

And yet, since Trump took office he reversed the trend he inherited from Xiden, and the inflation rate has been dropping every month

United States Inflation Rate

Inflation Rate in the United States decreased to 2.30 percent in April from 2.40 percent in March of 2025. This page provides - United States Inflation Rate - actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news.

tradingeconomics.com

Have you considered you are clueless?

 

[struth]

with an extra 4 trill deficit, and they havent done shit with doge

um, the current deficit is from Xiden's spending....Trump's won't take effect til next year

The budget has only passed the house, not the senate, we are operating on the one from last year still...and it's currently 1.9 trillion

You are clueless.

 

[g5000]

Thinks cutting out waste is a waste of time .

No. The claimed cutting of waste is a hoax.

Not the brightest , as we say .

No, you really aren't. That's why you are so easily hoaxed.

 

[g5000]

And yet, since Trump took office he reversed the trend he inherited from Xiden, and the inflation rate has been dropping every month

United States Inflation Rate

Inflation Rate in the United States decreased to 2.30 percent in April from 2.40 percent in March of 2025. This page provides - United States Inflation Rate - actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news.

tradingeconomics.com

How many times does it have to be explained to you that inflation is a LAGGING indicator?

So be sure to thank Biden.

The organization responsible for publishing the leading and lagging economic indicators is The Conference Board.

So pay attention, grasshopper:

The Conference Board Leading Economic Index® (LEI) for the US Plunged in April​

​

The Conference Board Leading Economic Index® (LEI) for the US fell sharply by 1.0% in April 2025 to 99.4 (2016=100), after declining by 0.8% in March (revised downward from the –0.7% originally reported). The LEI declined by 2.0% in the six-month period ending April 2025, the same rate of decline as over the previous six months (April–October 2024).

“The U.S. LEI registered its largest monthly decline since March 2023, when many feared the US was headed into recession, which did not ultimately materialize,” said Justyna Zabinska-La Monica, Senior Manager, Business Cycle Indicators, at The Conference Board. “Most components of the index deteriorated. Notably, consumers’ expectations have become continuously more pessimistic each month since January 2025, while the contribution of building permits and average working hours in manufacturing turned negative in April. Widespread weaknesses were also present when looking at six-month trends among the LEI’s components, resulting in a warning signal for growth. However, while the six-month growth rate of the LEI went deeper into negative territory, it did not fall enough to trigger the recession signal. The Conference Board currently forecasts US real GDP to grow by 1.6% in 2025, down from 2.8% in 2024, with the bulk of the impact of tariffs likely to hit the economy in Q3.”

Have you considered you are clueless?

Have YOU?

 

[g5000]

This is Biden's budget now. Not Trumps.
His budget doesn't begin till October.

And that October budget will add $5.2 trillion to the debt.

But the cult somehow bleevs Trump and the organization formerly known as the Republican Party are fiscally responsible.

This is why I constantly point out the cult is willfully blind. It is one of the most bizarre phenomena of the modern age.

 

[sartre play]

You can blame any one you want.
BUT here in the neighborhood ITS costing more to just try and stay even.

 

[struth]

How many times does it have to be explained to you that inflation is a LAGGING indicator?

So be sure to thank Biden.

The organization responsible for publishing the leading and lagging economic indicators is The Conference Board.

So pay attention, grasshopper:

The Conference Board Leading Economic Index® (LEI) for the US Plunged in April​

​

The Conference Board Leading Economic Index® (LEI) for the US fell sharply by 1.0% in April 2025 to 99.4 (2016=100), after declining by 0.8% in March (revised downward from the –0.7% originally reported). The LEI declined by 2.0% in the six-month period ending April 2025, the same rate of decline as over the previous six months (April–October 2024).

“The U.S. LEI registered its largest monthly decline since March 2023, when many feared the US was headed into recession, which did not ultimately materialize,” said Justyna Zabinska-La Monica, Senior Manager, Business Cycle Indicators, at The Conference Board. “Most components of the index deteriorated. Notably, consumers’ expectations have become continuously more pessimistic each month since January 2025, while the contribution of building permits and average working hours in manufacturing turned negative in April. Widespread weaknesses were also present when looking at six-month trends among the LEI’s components, resulting in a warning signal for growth. However, while the six-month growth rate of the LEI went deeper into negative territory, it did not fall enough to trigger the recession signal. The Conference Board currently forecasts US real GDP to grow by 1.6% in 2025, down from 2.8% in 2024, with the bulk of the impact of tariffs likely to hit the economy in Q3.”



Have YOU?

No, the Conference Board is just a Washington Think Tank...they aren't responsible for anything, they just do what it's members want, like the Brookings Institute, or the Heritiage Foundation.

And, your link has nothing to do with inflation, in fact, if you bothered to reseach it a little more you'd know the Conference Board LEI has been dropping for five months....while inflation has continued to drop. US Leading Indicators

While the LEI dropped some in April it's well above the historical avg of 71.32

United States Leading Index

Leading Economic Index the United States increased to 99.40 in April of 2025 over the same month in the previous year. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Coincident Index - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term...

tradingeconomics.com

Once, again you have shown how clueless you are.

 

[g5000]

in fact, if you bothered to reseach it a little more you'd know the Conference Board LEI has been dropping for five months.

Dude, that is exactly what I just posted!

The leading economic indicators have been DROPPING. For five months.

That's a BAD thing!

Gee, who has been president for the past five months?

D'oh!

And, your link has nothing to do with inflation,

That's because my post was about LEADING indicators, and I told you inflation is a LAGGING indicator, which is why it was not mentioned in the LEADING indicators in my post.

Lagging Indicator: Economic, Business, and Technical

A lagging indicator is an observable or measurable factor that changes some time after the economic, financial, or business variable it is correlated with changes.

www.investopedia.com

Inflation is a lagging economic indicator. It is reported after prices have already risen, which means the data it uses is historical. This type of lagging indicator provides important information about the economy that is used to set public policy.

 

[g5000]

When the Fed sets interest rates, it obviously takes some time to have an effect on inflation.

Thus, lagging indicator.

Unemployment is also a lagging indicator.

TACO Trump is failing horribly with leading indicators.

 

[g5000]

It should be obvious to everyone at this point that both major parties are progressive parties.

Sadly, it is not obvious to the cult/partisan hacks.

The loudest and largest obvious clue is massive overspending.

 

[g5000]

I've posted this before, buuuuut...

Here is the formula for GDP:

GDP = C + G + I + NX. C is equal to all private consumption, or consumer spending, in a nation's economy, G is the sum of government spending, I is the sum of all the country's investment, including businesses capital expenditures and NX is the nation's total net exports, calculated as total exports minus total imports (NX = Exports - Imports).

Gross Domestic Product - GDP

Anyone who sees that formula can see the easiest way to cheat at growing GDP is to increase government spending.

The more the government spends, the more it borrows. The more it borrows, the more interest it has to pay.

The more the government borrows and spends and pays interest, the less money is available to the rest of the economy.

Government spending is choking our real economy to death like a python around our collective necks.

We are in a debt death spiral.

And BOTH parties are complicit.

Anyone who turns a deliberate blind eye to this fact is also complicit.

We have to start holding EVERYONE accountable or our country is well and truly fucked.

Forget Mexicans. Forget trannies. Forget Muslims. The one and only threat to the continued existence of our country's position at the top of the world is our debt.

 

[g5000]

$5.2 trillion of debt in Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill.

Yes, it is his bill. He twisted arms and shouted, "Just get it done!" to the submissive lickspittles in Congress.

And, of course, the very same hypocritical bitches who whined about Obama and Biden's spending will be utterly and totally silent about Trump 1.0 and 2.0's spending.

Too bad for them they can't blame Covid this time around, like they pathetically tried during Trump 1.0 despite his massive budgets and doubling of the deficit occurring BEFORE Covid.

These ignorant, willfully blind, hacks are complicit.

They are progressives and don't even know it.