Why Is Bill Cosby Finished While Bill Clinton Is Beloved?

[Redfish]

Answer? Because liberals are and have always been, self righteous hypocrites.

Because it isn't about women's rights and has never been. It's about power.

If it was about women's rights, liberals would care about how women are treated in muslims countries or even in the United States by muslim men.

If it was about women's rights, Nina Burleigh wouldn't have written she would give Clinton oral sex to keep abortion legal. "I'd Be Happy to Give Him [Oral Sex] Just to Thank Him for Keeping Abortion Legal" - Press Release - July 6, 1998 - Media Research Center

Liberals with a straight face, talk about the "Republicans war on women" but to this day, turn a blind eye to Bill Clinton's treatment of women.

Mark Steyn: Why Is Bill Cosby Finished While Bill Clinton Is Beloved?

I don't Bill Clinton was ever accused of using rape drugs on women. They were willing partners.

On the other hand Bill Cosby--50 women and now in handcuffs suggests that he wasn't really having sex with willing partners.

a woman goes to a hotel room with Cosby, he offers pills and wine, she takes the pills and drinks the wine. What exactly did she think was going to happen?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Sources other than what lies between your ears. You people keep siting the so called lies of Clintons accusers yet somehow, according to you people, the Clintons never lie.

I'm sure the Clintons lie all the time. They're ******* politicians. They all ******* lie.

The last politician who told the truth was Walter Mondale, and he lost 49 states. Our system doesn't reward truth tellers.

I will even go as so far to say, Clinton was a major league horn-dog.

BUt I think when you have a concerted effort of ones political enemies dredging up utter bullshit in order to smear the guy because you can't argue against his policies, you should take that with a grain of salt when they can't back up their accusations with anything other than their word.

Would you people make up your mind? It's OK when Clintons lie, but it's a problem when the other side lies? I agreed with a lot of Clinton's policies but am not willing to put up with someone who will go to great lengths and concerted efforts to cover up a blow job that even his wife had no problem with. If you are willing to go to that length over a consenting blow job from a 20 year old, it only raises question and scrutiny how far you will go when it comes to security and welfare of this nation.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Thank you for the accolade. You just answered the question by your use of "usually". Just because a woman calls or sends letters to the rapist does not mean the rape did not happen. Thanks for playing. You are too easy.

no, but it does cast doubt on the story when she does.

Combine that with trying to get her friend to lie, the fact that other witnesses like Linda Tripp said she was trying to get into Clinton's pants, and all the other times Willey has been caught lying , I'm not willing to call him bad names because he copped a feel.

Sources other than what lies between your ears. You people keep siting the so called lies of Clintons accusers yet somehow, according to you people, the Clintons never lie.

The letters were released (thank you 1990's for calling us back again....) theyve been linked in this thread.


You must be a young-un.'

So, show the letters. I want to make sure they are not like the 1972 Microsoft Word-generated letters manufactured by Dan Rather and friends.

 

[billyerock1991]

Answer? Because liberals are and have always been, self righteous hypocrites.

Because it isn't about women's rights and has never been. It's about power.

If it was about women's rights, liberals would care about how women are treated in muslims countries or even in the United States by muslim men.

If it was about women's rights, Nina Burleigh wouldn't have written she would give Clinton oral sex to keep abortion legal. "I'd Be Happy to Give Him [Oral Sex] Just to Thank Him for Keeping Abortion Legal" - Press Release - July 6, 1998 - Media Research Center

Liberals with a straight face, talk about the "Republicans war on women" but to this day, turn a blind eye to Bill Clinton's treatment of women.

Mark Steyn: Why Is Bill Cosby Finished While Bill Clinton Is Beloved?

I don't Bill Clinton was ever accused of using rape drugs on women. They were willing partners.

On the other hand Bill Cosby--50 women and now in handcuffs suggests that he wasn't really having sex with willing partners.

a woman goes to a hotel room with Cosby, he offers pills and wine, she takes the pills and drinks the wine. What exactly did she think was going to happen?

this wasn't always the case ... but if they did take them and drink the drinks, does this give you the right to **** them while they are unconsious??? i would say no... the law says a person must be conscious to give permission

 

[Redfish]

Answer? Because liberals are and have always been, self righteous hypocrites.

Because it isn't about women's rights and has never been. It's about power.

If it was about women's rights, liberals would care about how women are treated in muslims countries or even in the United States by muslim men.

If it was about women's rights, Nina Burleigh wouldn't have written she would give Clinton oral sex to keep abortion legal. "I'd Be Happy to Give Him [Oral Sex] Just to Thank Him for Keeping Abortion Legal" - Press Release - July 6, 1998 - Media Research Center

Liberals with a straight face, talk about the "Republicans war on women" but to this day, turn a blind eye to Bill Clinton's treatment of women.

Mark Steyn: Why Is Bill Cosby Finished While Bill Clinton Is Beloved?

I don't Bill Clinton was ever accused of using rape drugs on women. They were willing partners.

On the other hand Bill Cosby--50 women and now in handcuffs suggests that he wasn't really having sex with willing partners.

a woman goes to a hotel room with Cosby, he offers pills and wine, she takes the pills and drinks the wine. What exactly did she think was going to happen?

this wasn't always the case ... but if they did take them and drink the drinks, does this give you the right to **** them while they are unconsious??? i would say no... the law says a person must be conscious to give permission

I think we have to assume that she was conscious when she took the pills and drank the wine. Again, exactly what did she think was going to happen in that situation?

 

[paperview]

Thank you for the accolade. You just answered the question by your use of "usually". Just because a woman calls or sends letters to the rapist does not mean the rape did not happen. Thanks for playing. You are too easy.

no, but it does cast doubt on the story when she does.

Combine that with trying to get her friend to lie, the fact that other witnesses like Linda Tripp said she was trying to get into Clinton's pants, and all the other times Willey has been caught lying , I'm not willing to call him bad names because he copped a feel.

Sources other than what lies between your ears. You people keep siting the so called lies of Clintons accusers yet somehow, according to you people, the Clintons never lie.

The letters were released (thank you 1990's for calling us back again....) theyve been linked in this thread.


You must be a young-un.'

So, show the letters. I want to make sure they are not like the 1972 Microsoft Word-generated letters manufactured by Dan Rather and friends.

I told you they were linked up thread.

Too lazy?

Lucky for you I'm feeling generous today.

Why Is Bill Cosby Finished While Bill Clinton Is Beloved? | Page 4 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I can only assume you are very young if you don't know about these letters. These came out (and there were quite a slew of them, many in her own handwriting) in the 1990's.

-- within just a few weeks after the supposed groping incident, Willey sent Bill a warm Christmas card - thanking him and asking for a job at the White House, later letters she praises him up and down, and in others calls herself herself Bill's "number one fan."

 

[2aguy]

The basic points....

at least 14 women we know of are all lying....only bill clinton is telling the truth.

That is where we are at.....

 

[2aguy]

(ABCNews.com, March 28, 1998)

Norma Rogers not only backs up Phillip Yoakum on the rape charge here, but her observation about Broaddrick's swollen lips seems to confirm Yoakum's report that Clinton bit Broaddrick's lip until she submitted to unwanted sex. That's a curious detail for two witnesses to simply make up.

Broaddrick herself first denied the rape story in an affidavit submitted to Paula Jones' lawyers,

Okay, repetition isn't an argument.

Here's the problem with Norma Rogers, also known as Norma Kelsey

Is Juanita Broaddrick Telling the Truth?

Clinton Is Innocent: The friends' testimony isn't trustworthy. Kelsey and her sister have a grudge against Clinton because, as governor, he commuted the life sentence of the man who murdered their father.

thanks joe...but you forgot to link the rest of the story....Here, I'll fix that....


She Changed Her Story:


In 1997, Broaddrick filed an affadavit with Paula Jones' lawyers saying Clinton did notassault her. In 1998, Broaddrick told Kenneth Starr's FBI investigators that she wasraped. Eventually, Broaddrick described the rape for several major news organizations.



Clinton Is Innocent: Broaddrick is either a liar or has an unreliable memory.

Clinton Is Guilty: Broaddrick's initial denials indicate only that she shunned publicity. That's why she never reported the rape; rebuffed advances from Clinton's political enemies who, in 1992, urged her to go public; and lied to Paula Jones' lawyers. She eventually told the FBI the truth in 1998 only because her son--a lawyer--advised her against lying to federal investigators. (At the time, it was reasonable to suspect she'd be hauled before a grand jury.) She granted media interviews only after her name was released by Paula Jones' lawyers, and after tabloids printed wildly untrue stories about her. Given her aversion to politics and celebrity, Broaddrick would seem to have little or nothing to gain by falsely accusing Clinton of rape. Clinton, on the other hand, has plenty to gain from falsely denying her charges.



She Told Friends:

Five people say Broaddrick told them about the rape immediately after it occurred. A friend and co-worker named Norma Kelsey says that, 21 years ago, she found a dazed Broaddrick with bloodied lip and torn pantyhose in their shared hotel room and Broaddrick explained that Clinton had just raped her. (Clinton is supposed to have bitten her on the lip just before raping her.) Her current husband--then her lover--says Broaddrick told him about the rape within a few days of the event. Broaddrick was, at the time, married to another man, whom she didn't tell about the assault. And three of Broaddrick's friends--one of whom is Kelsey's sister--say she told them about the rape shortly after it supposedly occurred.



Clinton Is Innocent: The friends' testimony isn't trustworthy. Kelsey and her sister have a grudge against Clinton because, as governor, he commuted the life sentence of the man who murdered their father. Broaddrick's current husband might lie on her behalf. Moreover, even if the friends are telling the truth, Broaddrick might have been lying 21 years ago. There is limited evidence that her first husband was abusive, so maybe she cooked up the story to explain a bloody lip he had given her. And if she was raped, why didn't she tell her own husband?

Clinton Is Guilty: If five friends say her story hasn't changed over 21 years, we can conclude that either that she's an unusually consistent liar or that her memory is reliable.

 

[2aguy]

The basic points....

at least 14 women we know of are all lying....only bill clinton is telling the truth.

That is where we are at.....

She is lucky she was at the White House...had they been anywhere else she would have been raped........and since she was desperate she still needed a job.......and since it was just sexual battery, among friends, she didn't know what could have happened to her...

 

[2aguy]

And again....this is where we are at....

All 14 women, that we know of including at least one from Britain, are lying. bill clinton is the only one telling the truth.

 

[Theowl32]

Because the left, all of them, are blatant racists. Especially the black ones.

 

[JoeB131]

Would you people make up your mind? It's OK when Clintons lie, but it's a problem when the other side lies? I agreed with a lot of Clinton's policies but am not willing to put up with someone who will go to great lengths and concerted efforts to cover up a blow job that even his wife had no problem with. If you are willing to go to that length over a consenting blow job from a 20 year old, it only raises question and scrutiny how far you will go when it comes to security and welfare of this nation.

I think it's a matter of what you lie about and why.

Lying about a blow job that he never should have been asked about in the first place. I kind of see that lie as being okay.

Lying about a country having a huge stash of WMD's, going to war over it, killing 5000 Americans and 100,000 Iraqis in the process? That lie is morally reprehensible.

Guess which one someone got impeached over.

 

[JoeB131]

And again....this is where we are at....

All 14 women, that we know of including at least one from Britain, are lying. bill clinton is the only one telling the truth.

well more like.

The three anyone bothered to investigate (Jones, Willey, Broadderick) were all found to have serious credibility problems. The other 11 you either made up (the ones where you never provided names), misrepresented what they actually said (Ward Gracen) or we just plain old never put their claims under any kind of scrutiny. 70 Million dollars were spent on a panty-sniffing investigation and none of this was substantiated.

So that's where we are at. As opposed to Cosby, where we have a lot of women who've given their names, they've undergone quite a lot of scrutiny, and no one has punched any holes in their stories.

 

[JoeB131]

thanks joe...but you forgot to link the rest of the story....Here, I'll fix that....

No point in fixing anything. BY ANY STANDARD, Broadderick's claims would never have been allowed to see the light of day in a court room. Kenny the Panty-Sniffer put these questionable claims in his report to be salacious.

Fact is, if Broadderick ever walked into a court room and told these stories under oath, she'd be charged with perjury.

 

[2aguy]

thanks joe...but you forgot to link the rest of the story....Here, I'll fix that....

No point in fixing anything. BY ANY STANDARD, Broadderick's claims would never have been allowed to see the light of day in a court room. Kenny the Panty-Sniffer put these questionable claims in his report to be salacious.

Fact is, if Broadderick ever walked into a court room and told these stories under oath, she'd be charged with perjury.

We have 14 women...that we know of and probably far more than that, who have come out and stated they were raped or sexually assaulted by bill clinton, and at least one, probably more, over seas in Britain. He used his position as a teacher, the Attorney General of Arkansas, and the Governor of Arkansas and also his position as President of the United States to select his victims and to intimidate his victims into silence.....

But we must believe that only bill clinton is telling the truth.

 

[2aguy]

And again....this is where we are at....

All 14 women, that we know of including at least one from Britain, are lying. bill clinton is the only one telling the truth.

well more like.

The three anyone bothered to investigate (Jones, Willey, Broadderick) were all found to have serious credibility problems. The other 11 you either made up (the ones where you never provided names), misrepresented what they actually said (Ward Gracen) or we just plain old never put their claims under any kind of scrutiny. 70 Million dollars were spent on a panty-sniffing investigation and none of this was substantiated.

So that's where we are at. As opposed to Cosby, where we have a lot of women who've given their names, they've undergone quite a lot of scrutiny, and no one has punched any holes in their stories.

Elizabeth Ward Gracen told her friend that bill clinton raped her...in fact bit her lip to control her during the rape, a common feature of clinton's rape technique. This was told to the friend at the time it happened and the friend never recanted the story......Gracen was raped by the then sitting Governor of Arkansas.....with his Praetorian guard of State Troopers, and private detectives to keep her silent.

 

[JoeB131]

We have 14 women...that we know of and probably far more than that, who have come out and stated they were raped or sexually assaulted by bill clinton, and at least one, probably more, over seas in Britain. He used his position as a teacher, the Attorney General of Arkansas, and the Governor of Arkansas and also his position as President of the United States to select his victims and to intimidate his victims into silence.....

Why do you think repeating the same things over and over again are an argument after they've been dismissed?

Do you suffer from some form of OCD, Dick Tiny?

You've made your argument. Other people have torn it to shreds. Do you have any NEW Material?

 

[jillian]

We have 14 women...that we know of and probably far more than that, who have come out and stated they were raped or sexually assaulted by bill clinton, and at least one, probably more, over seas in Britain. He used his position as a teacher, the Attorney General of Arkansas, and the Governor of Arkansas and also his position as President of the United States to select his victims and to intimidate his victims into silence.....

Why do you think repeating the same things over and over again are an argument after they've been dismissed?

Do you suffer from some form of OCD, Dick Tiny?

You've made your argument. Other people have torn it to shreds. Do you have any NEW Material?

he isn't very bright... it's all he's got

 

[JoeB131]

Elizabeth Ward Gracen told her friend that bill clinton raped her...in fact bit her lip to control her during the rape, a common feature of clinton's rape technique. This was told to the friend at the time it happened and the friend never recanted the story......Gracen was raped by the then sitting Governor of Arkansas.....with his Praetorian guard of State Troopers, and private detectives to keep her silent.

Except we've never heard that from Ward Gracen's own lips. IN fact, publicly, she has said just the opposite, that she had a very pleasant evening with Clinton of consensual sex. (Trust me, not something Clinton wanted her to say, either, living with Hillary.)

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Why Is Bill Cosby Finished While Bill Clinton Is Beloved?"

The thread premise is true partisan idiocy, it fails as a false comparison fallacy, and is comprehensively ignorant and ridiculous, nothing but a childish temper-tantrum.