Why Is Bill Cosby Finished While Bill Clinton Is Beloved?

[JoeB131]

The left's war on women is alive and well....This women is a liar?

Yes, she is.

She either lied when she swore in a deposition that Clinton hadn't raped her or she lied in that interview when she said he did. One of those statements is a lie. So now the only issue is determining which of those statements is the lie.

In the "She lied in the interview" column we have

1) She couldn't remember the date she was supposedly raped.
2) She didn't tell her then husband she had been raped.
3) she attended a Clinton fundraiser after the supposed rape.

 

[JoeB131]

Forced by the Clinton machine, that stupid affidavit doesn't mean anything

It means she lied. When you make two contradictory statements, one of them is a lie, which by definition makes you... a liar.

 

[JoeB131]

Newt doesn't have women saying he raped and sexually assaulted them...see, that is the difference...if a guy is a sleaze...that is on him...when clinton rapes and sexually assaults women...and you people defend him and say that all those women are liars.....14 at least that we know of...and the known serial liar bill clinton is said to be the only one who is telling the truth....that is on you guys....

except you list of 14 all have credibility issues. Some of them don't claim what you said they did. for instance, Elizabeth Ward claimed her relationship with Clinton was consensual. Others like Brodderick and Willy, have serious credibility problems.

The point is, your boy Ken Starr was given 70 million dollars to intimidate, bully and dig into every aspect of Clinton's personal life, and the only thing he could come up with that vaguely resembled wrongdoing was "He lied about getting a blow job".

 

[Vigilante]

Forced by the Clinton machine, that stupid affidavit doesn't mean anything

It means she lied. When you make two contradictory statements, one of them is a lie, which by definition makes you... a liar.

Perhaps YOU'LL PROSECUTE her? As they did with Blow Job lying about ....

 

[JoeB131]

Yes....she was supposed to testify against a sitting President who had already threatened her when he was the Atttorney General of Arkansas and the Governor of Arknsas and whose wife hired private detectives to intimidate her into silence......

You guys are unbelievable.........

All of these women lied...but bill clinton is the only one not lying.

Again, your strongest case is a women who admittedly submitted a perjured affidavit to the court, whose account has serious gaps in it. one who apparently cannot remember the date of the worst day of her life.

 

[JoeB131]

Perhaps YOU'LL PROSECUTE her? As they did with Blow Job lying about ....

Um, no. If she wants to remembered for this, that's her problem.

I just look at anyone who brings up this admitted liar as "Proof" Clinton was a rapist as a little questionable.

 

[boedicca]

The left's war on women is alive and well....This women is a liar?

Yes, she is.

She either lied when she swore in a deposition that Clinton hadn't raped her or she lied in that interview when she said he did. One of those statements is a lie. So now the only issue is determining which of those statements is the lie.

In the "She lied in the interview" column we have

1) She couldn't remember the date she was supposedly raped.
2) She didn't tell her then husband she had been raped.
3) she attended a Clinton fundraiser after the supposed rape.

What a hateful creep you are.

 

[JoeB131]

hastert was never caught...as you say he was caught paying hush money, they should have given him the full sentence for that to punish him for raping children......but you guys don't care about rape do you.......

clinton broke federal law with Monica....and that isn't his problem...his problem is he is a rapist and a sexual predator.....14 women claim he attacked them...not had affairs with or fooled around with him...raped them or attempted to rape them.......

Again, guy, where is your evidence? Most of these 14 women won't tell us their names.

The ones who have had their stories taken apart by careful investigation and found not credible.

Now, if Cosby wants to investigate these women and prove a lot of them were gold-digging starlets trying to "Casting Couch" their way into roles, let him.

 

[JoeB131]

What a hateful creep you are.

Duly noted you couldn't answer my points rationally.

So again, if she was raped, why did she sumbit an affidavit saying she wasn't?
Why didn't she tell her husband?
Why didn't she remember the date it happened?
Why did she attend Clinton events after the rape?

 

[paperview]

Yes....she was supposed to testify against a sitting President who had already threatened her when he was the Atttorney General of Arkansas and the Governor of Arknsas and whose wife hired private detectives to intimidate her into silence......

You guys are unbelievable.........

All of these women lied...but bill clinton is the only one not lying.

Again, your strongest case is a women who admittedly submitted a perjured affidavit to the court, whose account has serious gaps in it. one who apparently cannot remember the date of the worst day of her life.

Or even the month.

 

[JoeB131]

So let's look at some of the other "best cases" Dick Tiny came up with.

Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met Gov. Clinton at a political fundraiser and was invited to his hotel room. “When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn’t even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room,” she said.

so let me get this straight. she walked into the room and saw Clinton ON THE COUCH with his pants off, and SOMEHOW he got her close enough to him to force her head into his lap? Was he able to stretch his arms across the room like Mr. Fantastic?

Or did she go to his hotel room wanting sex, walked up to him, and then decided she didn't want to do oral because she thought that was icky?

Serious credibility problem with this story.


Okay, let's see what else you got here...

Eileen Wellstone, a 19-year-old English woman, said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where Clinton was a student in 1969. In fact, Clinton was expelled from Oxford and earned no degree there.

Okay, big problem with this story. Here was Clinton supposedly in a foreign country and raping one of their nationals, when he was just a college student, and apparently the British Authorities gave him a pass?

Also, Clinton wasn't expelled from Oxford. Like a lot of students at the time, he was there on a sort of academic tourism between undergraduate and graduate degrees.

The Bill Clinton we knew at Oxford: Apart from smoking dope (and not

So, sorry, Dick Tiny, another story falls apart. Let's do some more!

 

[JoeB131]

Elizabeth Ward Gracen, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state title. Gracen later told an interviewer that sex with Clinton was consensual. Her roommate Judy Stokes has said the ex-Miss Arkansas told her she was raped after the incident.

Okay, you see, big credibility problems with this one. Ward said her relationship with Clinton was consensual. that's kind of the end of the story, there. It doesn't matter what other people said she said.

`I Had Sex With Bill' Ex-miss America Says 1983 Fling With Guv Was `Completely Consensual'

Elizabeth Ward Gracen - who previously denied any liaison with the president - said she came forward to rebut allegations that Clinton forced himself on her.

``I had sex with Bill Clinton, but the important part to me is that I was never pressured,'' she said. ``We had an intimate evening. Nothing was ever forced. It was completely consensual.''

And hey, she had a sword, she could have totally fought him off.

 

[JoeB131]

Sadly, most of these women never had their questionable stories investigated, because they were trash being thrown around the room by the Right Wing Smear Machine...

But when they were...

Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, said that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November 1993. Willey became a target for a Hillary directed smear campaign after she went public.

Kathleen Willey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Final Report of the U.S. Office of the Independent Counsel report noted that "Willey and President Clinton are the only direct witnesses to their meeting, and their accounts differ substantially on the crucial facts of what occurred." It also stated "Willey gave false information to the FBI about her sexual relationship with a former boyfriend, and acknowledged having lied about it when the agents confronted her with contradictory evidence. Following Willey's acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard."[5] According to Independent Counsel Robert Ray's report, "Willey's [Paula] Jones deposition testimony differed from her grand jury testimony on material aspects of the alleged incident."[6]

According to a book critical of Clinton by Candice E. Jackson, Tripp told Larry King in February 1999 that Willey is "an honest person" who was "telling the truth" about having been sexually assaulted by Clinton.[7] However, Tripp's grand jury testimony differs from Willey's claims regarding inappropriate sexual advances.[8]

Willey has a history of controversial claims including telling the FBI she was pregnant and she had a miscarriage when she did not.[9] On the evening of March 19, 1998, Julie Hiatt Steele, a friend of Willey, released an affidavit, accusing the former White House aide of asking her to lie to corroborate Ms. Willey's account of being sexually groped by President Clinton in the Oval Office.[10] An attempt by Kenneth Starr to prosecute Steele for making false statements and obstructing justice ended in a mistrial and Starr declined to seek a retrial after Steele sought an investigation against the former Independent Counsel for prosecutorial misconduct.[11]

So let's review. Kathleen Willey lied to such a degree even the IC didn't believe her anymore. When one of her friends called bullshit on her claims, Perverted Ass Ken Starr maliciously prosecuted her.

Not to mention her husband scammed a shitload of people out of money before killing himself.

And then there's THIS little gem.

The Clinton White House released details of 15 letters and 12 telephone messages that Willey had sent to Clinton after the alleged incident.[citation needed] In all of these, she appeared friendly and eager for more contact with Clinton.

Did you all get that? AFTER she was supposedly sexually assaulted by Clinton, she sent 15 letters and called Clinton 12 times.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Sadly, most of these women never had their questionable stories investigated, because they were trash being thrown around the room by the Right Wing Smear Machine...

But when they were...

Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, said that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November 1993. Willey became a target for a Hillary directed smear campaign after she went public.

Kathleen Willey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Final Report of the U.S. Office of the Independent Counsel report noted that "Willey and President Clinton are the only direct witnesses to their meeting, and their accounts differ substantially on the crucial facts of what occurred." It also stated "Willey gave false information to the FBI about her sexual relationship with a former boyfriend, and acknowledged having lied about it when the agents confronted her with contradictory evidence. Following Willey's acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard."[5] According to Independent Counsel Robert Ray's report, "Willey's [Paula] Jones deposition testimony differed from her grand jury testimony on material aspects of the alleged incident."[6]

According to a book critical of Clinton by Candice E. Jackson, Tripp told Larry King in February 1999 that Willey is "an honest person" who was "telling the truth" about having been sexually assaulted by Clinton.[7] However, Tripp's grand jury testimony differs from Willey's claims regarding inappropriate sexual advances.[8]

Willey has a history of controversial claims including telling the FBI she was pregnant and she had a miscarriage when she did not.[9] On the evening of March 19, 1998, Julie Hiatt Steele, a friend of Willey, released an affidavit, accusing the former White House aide of asking her to lie to corroborate Ms. Willey's account of being sexually groped by President Clinton in the Oval Office.[10] An attempt by Kenneth Starr to prosecute Steele for making false statements and obstructing justice ended in a mistrial and Starr declined to seek a retrial after Steele sought an investigation against the former Independent Counsel for prosecutorial misconduct.[11]

So let's review. Kathleen Willey lied to such a degree even the IC didn't believe her anymore. When one of her friends called bullshit on her claims, Perverted Ass Ken Starr maliciously prosecuted her.

Not to mention her husband scammed a shitload of people out of money before killing himself.

And then there's THIS little gem.

The Clinton White House released details of 15 letters and 12 telephone messages that Willey had sent to Clinton after the alleged incident.[citation needed] In all of these, she appeared friendly and eager for more contact with Clinton.

Did you all get that? AFTER she was supposedly sexually assaulted by Clinton, she sent 15 letters and called Clinton 12 times.

Yes.......according to you liberals, when a woman gets sexually assaulted and reacts by sending letters and calling, then the sexual assault did not occur.

 

[paperview]

Sadly, most of these women never had their questionable stories investigated, because they were trash being thrown around the room by the Right Wing Smear Machine...

But when they were...

Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, said that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November 1993. Willey became a target for a Hillary directed smear campaign after she went public.

Kathleen Willey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Final Report of the U.S. Office of the Independent Counsel report noted that "Willey and President Clinton are the only direct witnesses to their meeting, and their accounts differ substantially on the crucial facts of what occurred." It also stated "Willey gave false information to the FBI about her sexual relationship with a former boyfriend, and acknowledged having lied about it when the agents confronted her with contradictory evidence. Following Willey's acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard."[5] According to Independent Counsel Robert Ray's report, "Willey's [Paula] Jones deposition testimony differed from her grand jury testimony on material aspects of the alleged incident."[6]

According to a book critical of Clinton by Candice E. Jackson, Tripp told Larry King in February 1999 that Willey is "an honest person" who was "telling the truth" about having been sexually assaulted by Clinton.[7] However, Tripp's grand jury testimony differs from Willey's claims regarding inappropriate sexual advances.[8]

Willey has a history of controversial claims including telling the FBI she was pregnant and she had a miscarriage when she did not.[9] On the evening of March 19, 1998, Julie Hiatt Steele, a friend of Willey, released an affidavit, accusing the former White House aide of asking her to lie to corroborate Ms. Willey's account of being sexually groped by President Clinton in the Oval Office.[10] An attempt by Kenneth Starr to prosecute Steele for making false statements and obstructing justice ended in a mistrial and Starr declined to seek a retrial after Steele sought an investigation against the former Independent Counsel for prosecutorial misconduct.[11]

So let's review. Kathleen Willey lied to such a degree even the IC didn't believe her anymore. When one of her friends called bullshit on her claims, Perverted Ass Ken Starr maliciously prosecuted her.

Not to mention her husband scammed a shitload of people out of money before killing himself.

And then there's THIS little gem.

The Clinton White House released details of 15 letters and 12 telephone messages that Willey had sent to Clinton after the alleged incident.[citation needed] In all of these, she appeared friendly and eager for more contact with Clinton.

Did you all get that? AFTER she was supposedly sexually assaulted by Clinton, she sent 15 letters and called Clinton 12 times.

Yes.......according to you liberals, when a woman gets sexually assaulted and reacts by sending letters and calling, then the sexual assault did not occur.

Hey genius, when a woman is sexually assaulted, she usually doesn't send flowery love letters to her "rapist."

Willey was a proven liar. Ask Ken Starr.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Sadly, most of these women never had their questionable stories investigated, because they were trash being thrown around the room by the Right Wing Smear Machine...

But when they were...

Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, said that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November 1993. Willey became a target for a Hillary directed smear campaign after she went public.

Kathleen Willey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Final Report of the U.S. Office of the Independent Counsel report noted that "Willey and President Clinton are the only direct witnesses to their meeting, and their accounts differ substantially on the crucial facts of what occurred." It also stated "Willey gave false information to the FBI about her sexual relationship with a former boyfriend, and acknowledged having lied about it when the agents confronted her with contradictory evidence. Following Willey's acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard."[5] According to Independent Counsel Robert Ray's report, "Willey's [Paula] Jones deposition testimony differed from her grand jury testimony on material aspects of the alleged incident."[6]

According to a book critical of Clinton by Candice E. Jackson, Tripp told Larry King in February 1999 that Willey is "an honest person" who was "telling the truth" about having been sexually assaulted by Clinton.[7] However, Tripp's grand jury testimony differs from Willey's claims regarding inappropriate sexual advances.[8]

Willey has a history of controversial claims including telling the FBI she was pregnant and she had a miscarriage when she did not.[9] On the evening of March 19, 1998, Julie Hiatt Steele, a friend of Willey, released an affidavit, accusing the former White House aide of asking her to lie to corroborate Ms. Willey's account of being sexually groped by President Clinton in the Oval Office.[10] An attempt by Kenneth Starr to prosecute Steele for making false statements and obstructing justice ended in a mistrial and Starr declined to seek a retrial after Steele sought an investigation against the former Independent Counsel for prosecutorial misconduct.[11]

So let's review. Kathleen Willey lied to such a degree even the IC didn't believe her anymore. When one of her friends called bullshit on her claims, Perverted Ass Ken Starr maliciously prosecuted her.

Not to mention her husband scammed a shitload of people out of money before killing himself.

And then there's THIS little gem.

The Clinton White House released details of 15 letters and 12 telephone messages that Willey had sent to Clinton after the alleged incident.[citation needed] In all of these, she appeared friendly and eager for more contact with Clinton.

Did you all get that? AFTER she was supposedly sexually assaulted by Clinton, she sent 15 letters and called Clinton 12 times.

Yes.......according to you liberals, when a woman gets sexually assaulted and reacts by sending letters and calling, then the sexual assault did not occur.

Hey genius, when a woman is sexually assaulted, she usually doesn't send flowery love letters to her "rapist."

Willey was a proven liar. Ask Ken Starr.

Thank you for the accolade. You just answered the question by your use of "usually". Just because a woman calls or sends letters to the rapist does not mean the rape did not happen. Thanks for playing. You are too easy.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes.......according to you liberals, when a woman gets sexually assaulted and reacts by sending letters and calling, then the sexual assault did not occur.

Um, actually, that's kind of how most people would see it. It's kind of how "Mattress Girl" at Columbia was dismissed because there were texts where she was trying to get back into her vicitmizer's pants.

 

[JoeB131]

Thank you for the accolade. You just answered the question by your use of "usually". Just because a woman calls or sends letters to the rapist does not mean the rape did not happen. Thanks for playing. You are too easy.

no, but it does cast doubt on the story when she does.

Combine that with trying to get her friend to lie, the fact that other witnesses like Linda Tripp said she was trying to get into Clinton's pants, and all the other times Willey has been caught lying, I'm not willing to call him bad names because he copped a feel.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Yes.......according to you liberals, when a woman gets sexually assaulted and reacts by sending letters and calling, then the sexual assault did not occur.

Um, actually, that's kind of how most people would see it. It's kind of how "Mattress Girl" at Columbia was dismissed because there were texts where she was trying to get back into her vicitmizer's pants.

Being the smart guy you are, you can appreciate that it would depend on what the content of the letters, calls, and texts "is" is. Agreed?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Thank you for the accolade. You just answered the question by your use of "usually". Just because a woman calls or sends letters to the rapist does not mean the rape did not happen. Thanks for playing. You are too easy.

no, but it does cast doubt on the story when she does.

Combine that with trying to get her friend to lie, the fact that other witnesses like Linda Tripp said she was trying to get into Clinton's pants, and all the other times Willey has been caught lying , I'm not willing to call him bad names because he copped a feel.

Sources other than what lies between your ears. You people keep siting the so called lies of Clintons accusers yet somehow, according to you people, the Clintons never lie.